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[quote:mclarek 978759:MV84MTQ3MzlfMTcwNzAzNDVfMjM0QzlCNzE=] [quote:DrPostman] Nancy just started the thread announcing her move to ning. I just had 6 posts removed from that thread...none of them offensive or rude. Hey Dr. Postman, has she been given some uber moderating powers? Does she do this at the start of her weekly chats as a rule? Yep, and I won't miss that one bit. The latter IS different, because the Earth actually spins on its way forward, as well as rotates around the Sun. \ What on earth do you mean "spins on it's way forward as well as rotates"? [/quote] Rotates around the Earth('s barycentre between it and the Moon), which is a path. But relative to that path, it does not. It turns on the path always with the same face. Thus, if the rotation on the path relative to another axis stopped in our understanding, the Moon would show no spin. Whereas if we stopped the rotational movement of Venus in our understanding, Venus would still show spin. Venus makes more of a turn for every path-turn (rotation) it makes. Your thoughts and the equivocal names are confusing ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE, or if you will, relative motions. Stop the forward motion around the Earth, or for that matter the bigger motion around the Sun, and the impression of rotation around its own axis would stop. Not true of Venus. For understanding, we must draw these distinctions. Any Moon pictures which show the Moon in place, rotating around itself, are diagramming (in your mind or in the original top-right-hand image of the .gif some days ago, with the red dot indicating where the Moon is rotated to) are in relation to the Sun, conflating the overall forward circle with a spin on the spot (if you eliminate other orders of magnitude, i.e., movements). Not so hard, really. But you are naming the total turn over space in relation to another axis, whereas I (and Nancy) were naming the movement PROPER (self-referenced), with no other movements to confuse in relative orientation. IF IT MOVES IN RELATION TO ITS OWN AXIAL FORWARD MOVEMENT, IT IS A PROPER (SELF-SAME) MOVEMENT. Anything else is calling a total orientation over a moving axis-path, a rotation relative to its axis. Conflating different concepts. But it does get represented that way, ON THAT LAGER ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. Properly, it's a rotation about another axis, with its axis moving forward and one face always facing its movement. No *proper-motion* spin/rotation about its axis. [/quote]
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Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote
ANY
poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.
Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last
Six
years to provide
ANY
truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd
Failed
predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".
Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on
Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!
PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.
Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.
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