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[quote:Catseye 982359:MV84MTQ3MzlfMTcxNDI1NjBfNDM2ODEwMzA=] There is no confusion, you are just ignoring the currently accepted definitions of "revolve" and "rotate" and using them interchangeably. You won't find an article of any substance that states "the moon rotates around the earth" - it's just not the correct definition of the word "rotate". And you certainly aren't going to convince anyone here that "rotate" has a newer, broader definition than it always has. You said: Catseye and 74444. "The fact is, the Moon's primary orbit is around Earth. It does not revolve ("spin" on its axis), it merely rotates around Earth. The Earth revolves, while it goes around the Sun, as does Venus (backwards)." But you have already admitted that the moon does, in fact, rotate on its axis. And if the earth revolves around the sun, as does Venus, how is this different than the moon around the earth? I mean, how is the moon "rotating" around the earth, but the earth's is "revolving" around the sun? These words are not interchangeable. It's like black vs white. and you also said: "From the Sun, it does show different faces, giving it phases, because it spins on its axis ("revolves") RELATIVE TO THE SUN (giving phases, not true diurnal motion, which would be relative to the Earth, not the Sun, if the Earth were a sun)." For Christ's sake, Clare! Spins on its axis IS NOT "revolve"! Let's just say for the sake of argument that rotate means revolve here. Okay. You said spins on its axis relative to the sun. But that is what we compare everything to! The sun! That's what years and days are all about, a body's movement in relation to the sun! So you just said the moon spins on its axis! Whether you want to call it rotation or revolution is a matter of stubbornness, but you just admitted to what we've been saying all along! You just don't like the currently established and accepted definitions of these astronomical terms! If you go back about a million and a half pages, to 525, you'll see how you've been giving in ever so slightly here and there to save face: see final paragraph: [quote:mclarek 971744] It clarifies, even further, that you think you are intellectually superior to the rest of us. We know where the alleged 'confusion' lies with this Moon thing. We have been around and around with it. But here YOU come, thinking that you need to 'explain' it to us... Truth is, YOU have a lot of deficits in understanding in these matters and stubborn refusal to learn, as you have already demonstrated by your dodging many of the specific points addressed to you. By the way... what in the world is "[i]self-axis spinning[/i]" in the above context, since you are here to inform and clarify? I may or may not be intellectually superior in nature. I have no idea if I am. I do know I stick to well worked out stadnards of hypothesis and logic-standards, so that if I fail to be logical, I correct myself. I did about Polaris. And I was elucidating the need to fill out the whole hypothesis, as well as its parts, in order to do justice to even a crazy idea. Some ideas have seemed crazy and were not. As to the final point, it was my own way to express spinning on its own axis in a north-south self-referential way, as the Earth does. This, the moon does not do. It has a ROTATION but not a spin on its own axis. [/quote] [/quote]
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Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
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poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.
Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last
Six
years to provide
ANY
truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd
Failed
predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".
Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on
Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!
PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.
Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.
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