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[quote:Anonymous Coward 218281:MV84MTQ3MzlfMTczMjEyMTRfREUzNkFGMkU=] Debris of the plane Clare claims didn't exist: http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/04/911-and-pentagon-attack-what.html#_“757” 1. “There was an enormous fireball, followed about two seconds later by debris raining down… I had what must have been an emergency oxygen bottle from the airplane go flying down across the front of my Explorer and then a second piece of jagged metal come down on the right side of the car.”[534] 2. “A fireball [exploded] into the air and scattering debris—including a tire rim suspected of belonging to the airplane - past his car.”[535] 3. “Penny Elgas built a patriotic box to preserve this piece of American Airlines Flight 77, the plane that crashed into the Pentagon… driving on a highway adjacent to the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, Penny Elgas stopped as she saw a passenger jet descend, clip a light pole near her, and then crash into the Pentagon. Arriving home, Elgas found this plane fragment in the back seat of her car (she theorizes that it dropped through the open sunroof). Feeling that it was her patriotic duty to preserve the fragment as a relic, she crafted a special box and lined it with red, white, and blue material.”[536] 4. “[Holding up a piece of debris during the interview:] It just landed by the car.”[537] 5. “Sitting only 300 meters away from the carnage… I saw little bits of silver falling from the sky.”[538] 6. “Then debris began falling over the cars.”[539] 7. “Bits of metal and concrete drifting down like confetti… pieces were flying out everywhere.”[540] 8. “[I saw] what looked like white confetti raining down everywhere.” He said it soon became apparent “that the ‘confetti’ was little bits of airplane, falling down after being flung high into the bright, blue sky.”[541] 9. “It looks like [a piece of] insulation—I was just standing here watching and all sorts of paper and debris… and insulation… [was] just flying down and landing on us over here… it was just amazing.”[542] 10. “You saw this debris go up in the air. I am watching this in my rearview mirror, and then I thought, Oh my God, there is debris coming toward me! So my reaction was, I ducked into my passenger seat and I heard the pitter-patter of pebbles and concrete bouncing off my car. And the next thing you know, I heard this big crash come from somewhere. It sounded like glass being shattered and I thought maybe, at first, it was one of my windows so I popped up to look but everything was fine. But when I looked to the car next to me I realized that something went through (the drivers) rear windshield and shattered it. There was a hole where you could see that something went through it… Pulling away from the Pentagon there was tons of stuff on the ground, big pieces of metal, concrete, everything. We got up to a certain point and there was this huge piece of something—I mean it was big, it looked like a piece of an engine or something—in the road. And there was somebody, definitely a security guard or maybe a military person, with his car in front of it making sure no one touched it… I got off an off-ramp beside the Pentagon and parked my car in the grass and started taking pictures. The whole time I was taking pictures it was so detailed. I could [see] this huge piece of a wheel on fire.”[543] 11. “The van protected him against burning metal that was flying around… There was debris falling down everywhere… Hot slices of aluminum were everywhere.”[544] 12. “Cars traveling nearby were…showered with rocks and other debris. Among the trash littering the road was a scorched green oxygen tank marked ‘Cabin air. Airline use.’ When the debris shower stopped, people began getting out of their cars.”[545] “Pieces of aircraft debris” 1. “By afternoon, the investigation was underway. At one point, a column of 50 FBI officers walked shoulder-to-shoulder across the south grounds of the Pentagon, picking up debris and stuffing it into brown bags. The lawn was scattered with chunks of the airplane, some up to four feet across.”[546] 2. “The full impact of the closeness of the crash wasn’t realized until coworkers noticed damage to Bell´s work vehicle. He had plastic and rivets from an airplane imbedded in its sheet metal.”[547] 3. “She saw remnants of the airplane… There was a seat from a plane, there was part of the tail and then there was a part of green metal, I could not tell what it was, a part of the outside of the plane…It smelled like it was still burning.”[548] 4. “The lawn was littered with twisted pieces of aluminum. He saw one chunk painted with the letter ‘A,’ another with a ‘C’… This was a jet.”[549] 5. “He saw pieces of what appeared to be small aircraft on the ground.”[550] 6. “walking along Fort Meyer Drive, a bike trail, you could see pieces of the plane.”[551] 7. “The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific.”[552] 8. “The plane peeled back as it entered, leaving pieces of the front of the plane near the outside of the building and pieces from the rear of the aircraft farther inside… There’s considerable evidence of the aircraft outside the E ring. It’s just not very visible…The wing actually clipped that generator, and portions of it broke off… There are other parts of the plane that are scattered about outside the building. None of those parts are very large, however. You don’t see big pieces of the airplane sitting there extending up into the air. But there are many small pieces. And the few larger pieces there look like they are veins out of the aircraft engine. They’re circular.”[553] 9. “…I ran down the hill to the site and arrived there approximately 10 minutes after the explosion. I saw the piece that was near the heliport pad…I was able to get in close and make that image within fifteen minutes of the explosion because security had yet to shut off the area… That was the only piece of wreckage of any SIZE that I saw, but was by no means the ONLY piece… As I stepped onto the highway next to the triage area, I knelt down to tie my shoe and all over the highway were small pieces of aircraft skin, none bigger than a half-dollar. Anyone familiar with aircraft has seen the greenish primer paint that covers many interior metal surfaces—that is what these shards were covered with.”[554] 10. “There were pieces of the plane all over the highway, pieces of wing, I think.”[555] 11. ““You say you saw the nose gear of the plane inside of the Pentagon?” [John:] “They organized rescue teams and we all went in to see what we could do to help. I was working in an area where between the two rings [was] a large 10-diameter hole… burst through and there was nose gear on the deck.”[556] 12. “Reporter: ‘I’ve seen debris 20 feet from where we’re standing—have you seen debris also?’ Witness: Yes… it just seemed like parts of the landing carriage or possibly the engines.”[557] 13. “One of the aircraft’s engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon’s mall parking area between the main building and the new loading dock facility”[558] 14. “You ask were the debris is… well it was in the building… I saw it everywhere… Have you ever seen photos of other aircraft accident photos…? There usually isn’t huge amounts of debris left…[559] how much did you see from the WTC…?”[560] 15. “I saw the remains of the engines in the North parking lot of the Pentagon as well as melted aluminum and other debris left from the aircraft.”[561] 16. “Pulling away from the Pentagon there was tons of stuff on the ground, big pieces of metal, concrete, everything. We got up to a certain point and there was this huge piece of something - I mean it was big, it looked like a piece of an engine or something - in the road. And there was somebody, definitely a security guard or maybe a military person, with his car in front of it making sure no one touched it…I could [see] this huge piece of a wheel.”[562] 17. “I saw the remains of the engines in the North parking lot of the Pentagon as well as melted aluminum and other debris left from the aircraft.”[563] 18. “I could see parts of the airplane that crashed into the building, very small pieces of the plane on the heliport outside the building. The biggest piece I saw was about three feet long, it was silver and had been painted green and red, but I could not see any identifying markings on the plane. I also saw a large piece of shattered glass. It appeared to be a cockpit windshield or other window from the plane… and as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you can pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around.”[564] 19. “Traffic [was] moving again, which was now crunching over twisted metal Sucherman guessed was the skin of the plane… There was what appeared to be the outside covering of the jet strewn about.”[565] 20. “FBI evidence teams combing the area of impact along the building’s perimeter found parts of the fuselage from the Boeing 757, said Michael Tamillow, a battalion chief… for the Fairfax County, Virginia, Fire department. No large pieces apparently survived.”[566] 21. “A piece of twisted aircraft fuselage lay nearby.”[567] 22. “As I got out of the car and made my way towards the Pentagon I saw pieces of wreckage on the ground. Your natural instinct is to reach down and pick up the pieces and look at them. But I decided against it, because I knew that the wreckage was evidence… I didn’t see a significant amount of debris. I just remember two things about this. One was the piece of wreckage I described earlier and the instinct to pick it up. Then I remember at some point later in the morning seeing a guy holding a piece of wreckage next to his head with the Pentagon in the background smiling and having his picture taken. I can’t describe for you the rage I felt. I unleashed on the guy and told him that he had no business doing what he was doing and that this was evidence and he should have just left it where he found it.”[568] 23. “There are parts all over the place, they are all smaller than a US nickle because of the force of the crash.”[569] 24. “At one point, a column of 50 FBI officers walked shoulder-to-shoulder across the south grounds of the Pentagon, picking up debris and stuffing it into brown bags. The lawn was scattered with chunks of the airplane, some up to four feet across.”[570] 25. “There [are] parts of debris of [the] airplane scattered along the road here.”[571] 26. “She went inside the Pentagon crash site and saw parts of the plane that she recognized to be an American Airlines Boeing 757 that she was familiar with from her years of flying. She recognized part of a tail section bearing the A/A logo.”[572] 27. “She could not speak, but pointed to the far side of her car. He went around the other side of the car and saw that parts of the passenger side had been sheared off and that there was a piece of a plane’s landing gear on the ground nearby.”[573] [/quote]
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