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Subject Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

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Yes, I switched my goal to Wealth. Then, I purchased a lottery ticket as the symbol. I didn't make a symbol because you told me once it's better to get something new to you.
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To create something new, rather than get something new.

(tuuuuur's representation of his "old" toy car is somewhat different as [b]I interfered somewhat[/b] in the process in order to illustrate, [b]similar to an interference with your 'island' query)[/b]
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Chaol, it's time for you to get over yourself. I appreciate your the purity of your intentions that we get the message and separate it from the messenger. But, it's just not possible. Our anthropologists and scientists have realized themselves, that they cannot study an environment without influencing it.

You are one of us now. We will learn this as fast as we can so you can just be a regular guy, but until then, you are still our friend. And, teaching us something we want to learn.

Of course, you're hearing this from someone who is tired of virtual reality, tired of being on the Truman Show....really, we have over 250,000 views on this thread alone? Who are you?

And a hand full of people posting? Why aren't the rest of you people posting? Tell us hi. Tell us you want to learn. Tell us when you can help us. Or not! :cool2:

Plus, it's a little difficult to learn when the land beneath your feet and the sky above your head is changing so rapidly.

Major Man, I'm in on your experiment. And thank you for offering. As we can all see, Chaol appreciates it. He has repeatedly told us he doesn't want to be seen as anything other than a regular guy.

I'll think about your proposal and be back with input if I have any. TY.

OK....:rant:
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Do you think there is a possibility we could scare him away with requests like this?  I mean, how firm are you willing to be?  I believe Chaol's credibility is rooted in the uncertainty on who or what he/she/it is.

I'd still follow these threads if he came clean on the possibility he is fantasizing the whole thing.  What if he admitted to reminding us this is all just "light entertainment" to absolve himself of any sense of guilt?  I think any of it could be possible, or none of it.  The information he provides is ambiguous, intelligent, intriguing, fascinating and resonates with me.
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Do you mean it could be scary to him if I see him as my friend and I want to learn from him? I'm firm enough that I'm presenting as clean a slate as I can to learn Ecsys.

I appreciate your input so please talk to me about this. The last thing I want to do is scare him away.

Is the uncertainty factor something that makes this all better for you? I do believe he has encouraged us to make this what we need for ourselves....light entertainment or whatever. I've come to the place where I don't care what his agenda is. I see the value in the message.

Edit: Btw Jesse, one reason I love to talk to you is that you always bring in a factor that I don't usually think of. Thank you for that.
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Original Message Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.

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