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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
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[quote:Jesse Sovoda:MV84NzI1OTBfMzUxOTQ3MzVfRUYxNjMwMTc=] [quote:Unit3:MV84NzI1OTBfMzUxOTQ2NTBfQzhFNDA5Mjk=] [quote:Jesse Sovoda:MV84NzI1OTBfMzUxOTM2NTBfNTUzMzMxOTA=] [quote:Unit3:MV84NzI1OTBfMzUxOTAzMzVfNjc3RDBGOUM=] [quote:Jesse Sovoda:MV84NzI1OTBfMzUxODYyNjhfN0Q3MjlCM0Y=] [quote:Chaol:MV84NzI1OTBfMzUxODU5OTlfOTMwREY3Njk=] [quote:dodec 20177375:MV84NzI1OTBfMzQ3MzAwOTFfQTIyNzZENUU=] Update for 11/27 3 quantum experiments to keep in mind while viewing this thread: 1. double slit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc The act of perceiving something causes the the wave of possibilities to collapse manifesting an experience. 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh8uZUzuRhk&feature=related everything is connected 3. superposition something unobserved exists in all its possible states [/quote] For #1, would that not imply that each observer has their own wave of possibilities? For #3, if it is unobserved then it would not relate to anything and would not thus have a state. [/quote] Yup and yup. But for #3 one could say "no energy is independent of perspective(observation)". [b]Until something is observed it seems to sit out there (as a possibility)[/b] un-rendered waiting to become logical (enough to be rendered). [/quote] Which gets us back to the question of existence and non-existence. It doesn't exist until it is perceived. We use symbols so we can perceive it. Where do the symbols and/or the knowledge to use them come from? In our world, we use them without even knowing how. So, they exist. [/quote] I imagine it "happened" something like this... In the beginning (yes the very beginning) there was nothing. This nothing is not nothing, it's something. It is impossible to define as it lies outside of anything we can or will ever perceive (it is perception). This "ability to perceive" required additional things be generated at the same time. It "presupposed" a random soup of pure "true" randomness. Within that "perspective", patterns emerged and not necessarily in a physical sense. Could have been the most simple of concepts at first, but in "true" randomness (without time) you can have complex patterns emerge (including time and the observer). Some could just have initial conditions where minute changes over time are allowed. Include continued existence for a concept that can grow in meaning and adjust itself based on what it is currently experiencing. You see, I don't know that nothing exists, because nothing is as random as possible. Nothing is ever provable. You can only collect evidence of experience and work to predict and understand the probability for it to happen. This evidence allows you to judge how the future can behave. As I see it, this is how you(we) got here. Or if nothing else, it is how we formed within the framework of these "physical bodies" and their perceived environment. [b]All of your past could have been generated (in whole) at this moment with you as complex as you are.[/b] Edit- Not only did we come into being capable of experience like this, I believe it is this possibility space that we abuse by using the Genius. We provide perspective a possibility for something previously not logical. Once we allow it to interact it is queued into experience. The more irrelevant the symbol the more possibility for that beautiful "true" random to be abused(utilized). [/quote] I totally agree with the bolded statement. I couldn't say about the rest but thank you for sharing it. Gives me a lot to think about. When I consider that I am at this very moment, perceiving a body, a computer in a room, sitting in a chair, a past, a future, family, etc:, etc:, etc;, without knowing how, then it must be that there is a mind or intelligent design. Something that is providing "material" for me to arrange into perspective. How could it be otherwise? I don't know what I'm doing but there is some kind of GENIUS involved, LOL! What is your definition of the subconscious? (Let's not assume any of us knows what anyone else is basing logic on.) I am thinking, at this point, the subconscious is the universal mind that I tap into and re-arrange for perspective of endless possibilities. [/quote] Subconscious, from a hypnotherapy standpoint is the part of you that you're unaware of. I'd argue that's true. [/quote]
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Hello!
I have been living in this world for some time now.
I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.
I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.
* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.
We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.
If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.
This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.
If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.
Thanks.
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