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Subject Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

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I seek to expand my "awareness", I am looking to perceive a richer [i]resolution[/i] of experience in each "moment" to allow me to get "more" out of my perspective and I seek to use that to increase the "quality of life" for myself and those I care about.  I've found in some of my trials, I became less tolerant or patient with the very ones I'm looking to protect/enhance.  This seems to happen because as I expand my understanding I am more aware of their intent and the relationships they hold within my perspective.  This (at times) leads me to dismiss their concerns as if they're trivial (yet to them they're obviously not).  If I am to assist and nurture them in order to "enhance" them and "protect" them (from my perspective), I cannot dismiss their perceived concerns (as trivial as I perceive them to be).
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Curious.. [b]do you think they could be resisting how you think they should be enhanced?[/b]

Maybe they will be relative to your new self on their own terms, not ones that you've planned.

I haven't experienced your situation, so I'm only guessing.
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Yes, I do.  On this level, we get along and work toward mutual happiness and benefit.  My curiosity has led me down many rabbit holes and I find within them a common theme, they're interesting to the geometry of relationships that I "care about" (value) but irrelevant.  In the "next level"(all levels) that "working towards mutual benefit and happiness" may be rendered as working against each other (as that dynamic is working now through my inability to properly explain my perspective or inspire others to seek to experience it).

My desire to bring them along in nice packages neatly marked fragile is seemingly beyond my ability.  I think back to what you said about most of your population choosing to not use (or even bother to understand) the language of perspective (consciously) and I cringe.  I believe that I am able to perceive a subjective universe rich with experience but I will be unable to share it.  I feel like I am building a massive playground rich with possibility and the ones I'll invite to come play will ignore it altogether (as they do not [i]technically[/i] exist beyond my perception of them anyway).

I don't want my wife to be properly represented as a "carnival ride" within perspective.  I want to transplant her into my perspective, I want her to be who she is, making the decisions she does and be able to ride it "herself". It seems to me that if we perceive as a "god" does or as a player does via an RTS game, we find ourselves incapable of interacting (fairly) on a first person basis, whether we are playing a character in first person or not.  It seems that I would only be able to properly interact with someone I perceive to be at the same level.

What I mean is that a chess player can never have a proper interaction with his queen on the board, that interaction is reserved for the other player.  I do not want my wife to be reduced to a chess piece (yet, I feel as if in some ways both she and I already have been).  I seek to allow her (and the others I care about) to continue to play.
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Yes, I think it's a gamble. There's no easy way to predict if someone will be a part of the new perspective.

But we can see if we are (still, or more or less) attracted to them as we move through perspective. That can give us some idea, I think.
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Original Message Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.

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