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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
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[quote:Unit3:MV84NzI1OTBfMzU0MTIyNjFfRDYxMTQ3MEU=] [quote:Chaol:MV84NzI1OTBfMzU0MTE5NzRfQTE4MEMyQ0Y=] [quote:Unit3:MV84NzI1OTBfMzU0MDQxMjFfQTgzMDRBM0Y=] [quote:Chaol:MV84NzI1OTBfMzU0MDM5ODBfQjYxQ0ZCMjI=] [quote:Unit3:MV84NzI1OTBfMzU0MDM3MTBfNkQ0MDZENjE=] [quote:Chaol:MV84NzI1OTBfMzU0MDMyNTRfODhBQUU5Nw==] [quote:Unit3:MV84NzI1OTBfMzUzODA3NjVfNkRBQkRCQkU=] /snips/ So, how does one realize their oneness with everything? I'd like to see how you do it because here, it takes quite a bit of work. (I've told you about it in the other thread.) Edit: I got the link for the post where we talked about some of the spiritual teachings in this world, in case you want to see it. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1896460/pg48#35244932 [/quote] I suppose the same way that the various aspects of your body come together and say "me". For me, it's of no import to realize such things so I don't really have any thing to offer in this way. We have neighboring views of 'teachings' I think. What [i]isn't[/i] something to learn from? [/quote] It may not be of import to you to realize such things because as far as I can tell, you do realize it. This is my own interpretation, of course. But, I feel you realize it and therefore, choose to create drama, separate and forget because you have the choice to do so. See what I mean? Everything is to learn from....even a flower growing through a crack in the cement. That was one of the best lessons of my life, btw. [/quote] Why realize something that is impossible to forget? We have only to realize what perspective is, rather than to seek or hope for something that does not exist. [/quote] (I'm thinking about the other post you replied to so I'll go ahead and reply to this one first.) Why do you feel realizing Oneness is impossible to forget? My husband does it all the time. He sees himself as One with everything, but he forgets and enjoys the drama. He says it gets kind of boring to always see the Oneness. Edit: Btw, a lot of spiritual teachers in our world talk about experiencing this state of Oneness. [/quote] We can conceptually imagine this but it does not mean that we actually understand it or can use it. It's not actually possible to understand it, because it would mean understanding nothing-in-particular. Nothing-in-particular is free of understanding, free of concepts, free of perspective (i.e., those things are meaningless to it). I don't think the following would be a popular statement but 'teachers' that talk about "oneness with everything" are [b]actually working against nature.[/b] But it certainly provides them with a nice bottom line. It is far more natural to divide perspective than to pretend that experiencing one perspective. Being One would mean that we would experience not existing. [/quote] Aha! The bold statement above makes sense to me because it never felt right to me with the little I dabbled into it. Also, the ones that profess it are not able to exist in this world very easily. I see it as a separation of mind and body myself. And yes, it very easily is a concept that makes sense to some but doesn't mean they actually understand what they are experiencing. Thanks, Chaol. [/quote]
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Hello!
I have been living in this world for some time now.
I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.
I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.
* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.
We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.
If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.
This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.
If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.
Thanks.
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