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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
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[quote:Chaol:MV84NzI1OTBfMzg1Njg1ODRfNEFBMTA2OUI=] [quote:MutantMessiah:MV84NzI1OTBfMzg1NjU4MDNfRTZBRTUyQkU=] Some top notch Chaol in this old version of the ecsys.org site: http://web.archive.org/web/20091019040258/http://www.ecsys.org/index.htm Missing the graphics unless Neo.Chaol still has them archived but it's good stuff (Chaol, please, if I've overstepped and posted too much lemme know, this stuff isn't "live" on line anymore and deserves to be consumed) [b] The following is all from the (NOW NONEXISTENT page "Ecsys Questions and Answers: Consciousness and Reality"[/b] from:http://web.archive.org/web/20091019035410/http://www.ecsys.org/ecsys-questions-and-answers-consciousness.htm#2 What Is Perception? The most fundamental force of the universe is neither physical nor quantum. It is consciousness. Consciousness is perspective. The way our consciousness works also has a lot to do with how we perceive things. Our traditional 5 senses as well as our sense of time, space, and thought are rooted in a kind of forgetfulness. We forget how we sense anything. What is truly interesting about representations is that we quite often mistake an object or thing with its representaiton and forget that we did just that. This "forgetfulness" is rooted in the brain's deeper cognitive processes. When we see a sunset we are not aware of the complex neural processes involved in creating the sensory experience. To be aware of the process is to be aware of overloaded, fragmented, and pretty much sunset-less noise. That all these stimuli are representations of "sunset" escapes us. We have no choice but to mistake the map for the territory. It all seems real because we have no choice. We cannot 'see' beyond our own perspective. Take a look at the graphic on the right. Looking between the black squares you see a circle. The circle you're looking at is white. However, the circles you're not looking at are off-white, grey, or black depending on how far they are from the one you're looking at. So what color is the circle? (Answer: there is no circle. There is only an ever-changing relationship between representations. Sometimes it appears white, sometimes it doesn't.) It's not something else that changes. It is your perspective that changes. (There is only you, re-member?) When your perspective changes then your relationship with everything else also changes. From these changing relationships we get a sense of time, space, and physical change. Physical change is simply a representation of changing relationships that follows a certain pattern. We've experienced this pattern since we were babies so we call it "physicality". Though physicality is only an illusion, it is no more or less real than your thoughts are. The only thing "real" is the representation's immediacy to our senses (making it seem real). If we were using a different method to perceive then the things we see using that method would seem more real to us than anything else. We place so much importance on just one of our senses (sight) that we forget a guitar can be represented in a myraid of other ways, only a few of which can be perceived with our other senses. The reality we create is based on our perspective. When we say we walked around the table we're not talking about deflecting its electromagnetic energy into II-tubes. However, we could choose how or why to interact with the table because of our perception of those non-visual relationships. This multi-worlds phenomena presents a kind of paradox. Something can either be true, or it can be perceived. It cannot be both. We can be aware of something but not be aware of the truth of what it is. When the totality of something cannot be grasped in our perception, it appears infinite (such is your reality, seemingly infinite in every direction). Our mind creates representation to expand perception (increase consciousness). For example, the words we use for something affects how we perceive it. 47 words for snow*** allow Eskimos to perceive distinctions in snow that most English speakers cannot. We use language (a representation) to create physically-based perceptions. The representations change how we perceive. (Another representation, the physical brain, also affects how we perceive.) Using specific metaphors allow for specific perceptions. Representations are how we remember, perceive, and think. A perceives B in a context relative to the AB perspective. The nature of what you perceive affects how you perceive it. Your perception of a beam of light, for example, is very physically-based. That same beam of light may manifest in your dream as a sound or another representation. Contrariwise, the beam of light would not "perceive" your physical representation if it were shining on you. Your body would be something else to it much the same way other entities manifest as clouds in your experience. We can observe photons of light in space where no real space exists (nor photons, until we perceive them and the need for the representation to manifest arises). The "space" is simply an illustration of gravitational attraction and repulsion. All internal phenomena. Two objects next to one-another may be physically close (say, in perspective A) but not psychologically (in perspective B). In perspective B the two objects may be as distant as stars. A star may be distant from us from one perspective (requiring much physical fuel) but very close from another perspective (requiring no fuel). You could never perceive the sun as it truly exists right now. The apparent light from it is several minutes old, taking "time" to travel through "space". But it is not physical distance that ages the light. Rather, this "8 minute" variable illustrates how attracted the representation is to us. If the representation were more physically relative it would be perceived as being physically closer. There is a representation that is much closer to our perspective and that is, of course, our bodies. But of this, too, we are not able to perceive it as it is "now". Light also takes some time (albeit a very, very short amount of time) to get from our toes or arms. We can never see ourselves as we are Now. We are always experiencing an illusion of ourselves. A representation. Thus, the act of perception is like looking into the void and measuring it. This of course cannot actually be done but we try to do it anyway. This creates representations of the void (or so we think) that we can then interact with. [Ecsys-speak on the right.] Something's perspective is its relationships with everything else. The meaning of something is in its perspective, not in how it is perceived by another. [***Note: The Eskimo language actually takes what would be for us be under-utilized phrases for snow and represents those phrases with singular concepts, or nouns, that are not had in English. The representation of a concept makes all the difference in the perception of it.] [b]And:[/b] How Do My Thoughts Become Reality? Ecsys holds that you do not think your thoughts but perceive them. (You choose to perceive them, if you will.) Thoughts are sensations, like smells or visual stimuli. It's kind of like drinking milk with your eyes closed. Everything in your environment says that you will perceive the sensation of milk in your mouth. Similarly, everything in your perspective enables you to perceive exactly the next thought you will have. Your thoughts are the result of the relationships in your perspective. Test it out for yourself by observing a change in thought as your perspective changes. (This doesn't mean that your thoughts are dependent on external variables and you have no control. You are your external variables because they exist only in your perspective.) Along with our traditional 5 senses we have a sense of thought. We internalize "distant" stimuli or relationships and make it a relative part of our experience. Distant thoughts are like smells you no longer smell because your environment does not dictate the perception of them. A thought is another kind of representation. Similar representations tend to group together and become realms of consciousness and experience. The closer a representation is to a grouping the more powerful is the realm's affect. (From the graphic to the right, an "emotional" representation can become more attracted to the physical realm and take on physical properties. A physical representation can be attracted to —or repelled by— the microbial realm and take on —or discard— microbial properties, etc.) But what does that mean for us? Imagine a distant object as a thought which has not taken on physical attributes and a near object as that which is relative to our physicality. You could say that the distant object is indeed a physical thing. In theory that would be true. It is not really, however, in your physical realm of experience and is to your perspective somewhere between physical and not-physical. (The moment you begin to observe it to prove it is physical is the moment at which you bring it closer to your physical experience. And so then it becomes more physically real. Touch it and it will become even more physically real. This is why no kind of particle is the most fundamental element of creation. They're not there until we need to perceive that particular representation. Perspective is the fundamental element.) Thoughts take on physical form as the thought is expressed more physically, changing your perception of it. Bring the thought into your physical experience and you will experience it physically. This could be as simple as drawing a picture of the house you want instead of just desiring it. You are physicalizing the thought, re-representing it. Reality does not have 3 dimensions or 20. It has one: perception. When you re-create a thought physically you are introducing attractive and repulsive forces to it. The physicalization of the thought may mean that it can build stronger connections with other things in your experience (attraction) or has less of a need to manifest emotionally (repulsion). What we think of as motion is not something moving by itself, but the relationship of something changing with its environment. There is no physical movement through space at all. You do not move from point A to point B. You simply shift awareness from A-ness to B-ness. There is no motion in space because space exists only in the 1 dimension of perception. (The futility of imposing an abstract concept, the 1st dimension, onto physical space notwithstanding.) "Motion" is you changing your perspective, not moving through three dimensions. What we think of as "now" is not something that we have never experienced before. It is a kind of space that exists between our structuring and unstructuring of perspective. Past and future are as much 'in the now' as we think 'now' to be. For example, if you recall a memory from 10 years ago is that a past memory or a present one? Are you able to import the past memory completely unaffected by your current perspective? Are you actually creating it anew? When something is more structured (and has less potential energy) we think of it as Past. When something is less structured (and has more potential energy) we think of it as Future. If we provide structure to a "future" thing we will seem to experience it in our Present before it seems to go to the Past. Consciousness triggers manifestation. If a non-physical thing becomes related to our physical experience, then we will experience it physically. When representations are interacted and associated with more, you are more likely to experience it in space/time. Your dreams can become physical reality simply by interacting with their representations more. [b]And:[/b] Dreams: You In Another Reality All of the trappings of physicality can be experienced in your dream state. We may think of our waking state is persistent and our dream state as chaotic, but that is not the case. A table may appear "solid" to us but most of the table is actually non-physical. There is about as much space between its particles as there is space between heavenly bodies (proportionally). Our physical experience is like the graphic on the right. With our physical senses we sense only physically-based experiences. Thinking back, we remember only those experiences that are relative to the apparatus we are using to remember. Our physically-based mind does not show us the other realities in which we exist, or the other perspectives we are partaking in at this very moment. We continue to experience physicality when we are dreaming. When we awaken from our dreams we do not cease to exist in our dreams. We are still dreaming. Our dream state never stops. It is only our perspective that changes. The particles that compose your body are not static. They are in constant "motion" between other perspectives and time-experiences. In a similar way, neither is your dream reality static. In between those physical moments we are processing our waking life in our other states of mind. We also process our dream experience in our waking state. Our dream life is so intertwined with our waking life, it could be said there is little difference between the two experiences. Both states are persistent and have a "solid" reality. The atoms and molecules that make up our physical world also make up our dream world. We are just as physical in the dream world as we are in the waking world. Which is to say, not much at all. Using your brain to recall something your brain does not experience doesn't work, however. Its "memories" are very heavily influenced by physical reality. You will project the structures of the waking world when trying to perceive the dream world. Dreams make plenty of sense when you're experiencing them, but not when you project unfitting representations onto them upon awakening. During wakefulness we sometimes receive dream stimulus. But we are sure to make this stimulus a part of waking reality in order to ensure continued wakefulness (and perhaps sanity). We interpret this dream stimulus as sudden knowledge, déjà vu, intuition, etc., in waking experience. It is similar to how you will probably incorporate a loud sound that happens in your room into your dream experience if you are dreaming, in order to ensure continued sleep. (The interconnectedness of waking and dreaming states can be observed by paying attention to the events in the dream right before the sound occured. For example, how did your dream state know there was going to be a sound?) Sometimes the sounds in our room penetrate more easily into our dream reality. Conversely, sometimes we are awake and experience strange phenomena like see ghostly forms, hear voices, or do extraordinary creative works or physical feats. We simultaneously experience all states of mind (beta, theta, etc.) but each is aware of its own and, to some degree, others like a focused light shining in a particular section of a dark room while other sections continue to exist and function (and may be partially illuminated from your perspective). Imagine spacetime as your tongue with 6 areas. Instead of bitter, salty, sour, etc., you have physical, ultraphysical, metaphysical, conscious, sub-conscious, dream-aware. Each physical experience actually exists in the 5 other domains simultaneously (but may not be simultaneous from a different point of reference). But there is no need to know about those 5 others because it has already been translated into your experience. The apple has but one taste interpreted several different ways. An experience that occurs in one domain is translated into another domain. For example, your physical experiences are translated into dream experiences and vice-versa. But it could be that a dream experience you will have tonight is occurring "simultaneously" with a physical experience 5 years from now. When you are dreaming your dream world appears as "reality". When you are awake your waking world appears as "realty". Consciousness is interaction. And interactions are just as real in one as they are in another. [b]AND:[/b] The Nature of Time Time is a narrative illusion that we make for ourselves in order to make particular sense of something that cannot be perceived. Spacetime is the algorithm of our physical experience. If you observe three clocks on a table for several minutes and each keeps the same time as the others, down to the second, it cannot be said that each clock has the same "experience" of time. Imagine that instead of three clocks we have three sleeping persons whose biological clocks are 'set' to rise at 6am each morning. Observing each for several hours until approximately 6am we see that each person awoke within minutes of one-another. However, we cannot say that one of those persons did not experience an extra few hours (or days) from their perspective. However, from our perspective each person (and each clock) has their time synchronized. In a more obvious example, two people can live exactly the same amount of time yet have a completely different experience of time. But scientists would say that these two persons experienced time the same (especially if they were always next to one-another). In time experiments scientists look at only the most obvious example of a difference in two clocks placed far apart because the same cognitive process used to perceive the spacing of the clocks is used to perceive the time on the clocks (or vibrations in them). You cannot use the same cognitive tool for both your control clock and your experimental clock because the result would show only part of the picture. Scientists know that time is relative to the observer and is not universal because of physical distance of the observer. Ecsys extends this theory to include the perspective of the observer. Physical distance is irrelevant when time knows no physical bounds. [b]ANDAND:[/b] The Beginning & The End Imagine, if you will, an apple sitting in a void. Nothing else was around for as far as the eye of the apple could see. This apple was quite lonely because there seemed to be nothing else. Not only that, it could not know of itself and did not feel alive because there was nothing else to relate to. So after some deliberation it decided to do a very wise thing. Cut itself into pieces. (It does not do this in a literal way because it doesn't have a knife and there is no need to. It simply creates a apple-protein that makes each apple-slice forget that it is part of the whole.) The simple act of dividing itself up created the core of its existence. For each slice was then able to perceive of other slices. For the first time in its existence it could see its own existence. The very moment when it sliced itself was when the apple universe was created. Time, space, and all the trappings of a satisfactory existence. (And, of course, consciousness.) Only representations exist in the universe because the actuality of what the universe is is beyond perception. We have an infinite variety of representations (things, possibilities, elements, energy, thoughts, perceptions, etc.) because the entirety of It cannot ever be fully illustrated. What we see is the universe, interpreted in a way that we can readily perceive. But we do not live in a physical universe. Neither do we live in a spiritual universe. Anything can be expressed physically, spiritually, emotionally, politically, although in an incomplete way and one relative to the agent that is used to express it. We are indirectly discovering more about the 100% of the universe that isn't physical as our ability to think abstractly expands through the use of computers and networks, games, books, and other media. We are now more involved in abstract mental exercises than ever before. We are traveling through "self" as we travel in time and space. Astrobiologists look for (organic) life elsewhere in the universe, bypassing the intelligence in our own clouds and geosphere. More importantly, we overlook the capacity for human intelligence to become entirely different than anything we've seen before. (There is so much more on that incarnation of the ecsys.org, I strongly recommend it.) [/quote] When I read it I cannot believe that my fingers typed all of that in a coherent way. But at the same time, as soon as I read it I completely understand it (or at least I think I do). I suppose I am re-membering what I have forgotten in order to represent it in a way different from the one that has caused it to be remembered. [/quote]
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Hello!
I have been living in this world for some time now.
I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.
I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.
* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.
We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.
If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.
This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.
If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.
Thanks.
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