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THE RETURN OF THE DESTROYER, NIBIRU, PLANET X, DRAGON, DARK STAR, BROWN DWARF, ECT...
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[quote:ADEND:MV85ODAxNzJfMTU1MTg1NTVfQzM2Q0U4RkM=] [quote:"...Sing, I'll sway.] [i]FUCK[/i] That ^^^^^^ was me again. Sorry. Moving on- ADEND wrote: "[/i]OP did a good work questioning possiblities. His conclusions do not reinforce the current power structures control systems so they are dangerous.[/i]" I will NEVER say that drawing a conclusion which CHALLENGES the current power structure ISN'T something to strive for/appreciate in others. But you have to HAVE CHALLENGED those power structures. Merely attempting, or worse- attempting [i]and failing[/i] is nothing but kind of a... useless distraction. I just wish people had higher standards. And there's NOTHING dangerous about someone making claims steeped in errors and circumstantial evidence. When that happens you're HURTING the cause- not HELPING it. You humiliate the cause. It seems like some people here think he should be applauded just because he TRIED. But it's [i]not good enough[/i]. Not for my standards. Nor should it be for anyone else's. "[i]He is attacked on several sides with different simultaneous arguments (nice trolling to the Shills BTW).[/i]" There's a difference between "attacking" and asking someone to explain himself. And yes, when someone makes the claims he makes in his videos, it's [i]appropriate[/i] to ask him to "explain himself". Unless you advocate endorsing information based on its face value just by virtue it's been...presented (lots of users here written things to the effect of: "AT LEAST HE PUT FORTH THE EFFORT TO MAKE A VIDEO- WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? But what does it matter if the information presented can't be...challenged? [i]What's the point[/i]?) "[i]OP, you can't argue your points here without being massivly trolled. You are much beter just postulating and asking questions that point people in the right direction. Don't get sucked in, you have more important things to do.[/i]" He never [i]argued[/i] a single point. He came back, made a rambling, self-aggrandizing [i]declaration[/i] and...promptly split. Disagree with my ideaologies, [i]but that's what happened[/i]- dude [i]split[/i]. No "arguing" here. ..."[i]shame on you. You should be asking questions and pointing out facts to guide and refine OPs search for the truth, not attacking him for not being perfect.[/i] I am in [i]no way obligated[/i] to "guide" or "refine" someone else's hour-plus-long manifesto. The burden of proof is on [i]him[/i]. And no one attacked him for not being perfect. No on attacked him at all. He made his declaration, claimed the [i]negative[/i] reactions were a coordinated conspiracy (seriously) [i]and split[/i]. "[i]BTW, Swing you are really bright and have superior reasoning to most. If you want to help, just get a little more socratic in your method and you will help others and yourself more along the way.[/i]" I'm not sure [i]who[/i] that's addressed to. I...ha....[i]sorry[/i] but I'm tempted to think it's...I mean, without that typo [i]it kinda looks like..[/i] as my username [i]is...[/i] No. Couldn't be. But if anyone here ever [i]did[/i] write anything like that, referencing me, I would just humbly... thank them. And I would hope they didn't take [i]this[/i] post too personal. I'm just trying to communicate here. EDIT: sorry, that might sound like I'm making fun of your typo. I'm not. Seriously. Making fun of typos is the last refuge of a coward (!) I'm just...pathologically unable to except...compliments. Of any kind. And it's..."kind of" a compliment. You've intrigued me though- define "socratic", in regard to my "method". Interesting. [/quote] Sorry about the misnomer Sting. I mean Sing :-) So, I might for the moment ask you to generalize error as having its source in three common categories. 1) The facts are wrong or unknown, but the conclusion is not questioned; 2) The facts are correct but the wrong question is asked and therefore the wrong answer results; 3) The facts are right, the right questions are asked and faulty logic results in the wrong result. There is always a strong question that can point out the error in any of the above. Properly questioning an error will lead to a contradiction in reasoning. Study the source of the error and ask questions that lead to contradictions. This is what I mean by being more Socratic in your method. When your reasoning is superior it is easy to explain why and win. Winning creates a loser and discourages the search. Questioning guides the search, and though most will be close minded, when you find a like mind or appreciative student it is a great thing. I for one see so many people failing to question that I am thrilled every time I see someone seeking the truth. I have been on, and may go on further, wild goose chases to see where they wind up. I understand you may not have the luxury of time for this, but each gift comes with a corresponding responsibility. You can use your gifts to help a few others grow, or to win and make them look bad. Which use resonates best with who you are? [/quote]
2 hour presentation I gave at Brave New Books in Austin.
Just covered the facts, packed the place, many more people came than I expected and everyone was very grateful. It was a 1000% success.
Here is part 1 of 13. Have at it...please, prove me wrong. I hope you can.
edited per lucas request
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