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Offline profmunkin

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Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« on: February 28, 2012, 11:07:41 AM »
Intention is to post 7 frame capture photos from Apollo 11 film footage that includes astronauts excursion.
Film clip is single reel, shot continuously, at same frame rate, shutter speed and F-stop
Please download, then view photos in order.
Notice the location of the lunar lander shadow, the shadow progresses from left to right as you rotate through photos.
The shadow becomes progressively sharper and the picture progressively lightens. Best illustrated by moving from 1st to last photos.

All of these changes take place in 5:40 minutes x adjustment for frame rate.

The Sun when viewed from Earth would appear to move 1 degree of arc in 4 minutes.
From the Moon the Sun would appear to move 1 degree of arc in 112 minutes.

Evidence supports the apparent movement of the Sun, rising by several degrees, within a short period of time.
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
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Offline gwiz

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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 11:49:53 AM »
Quote from: profmunkin on February 28, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
All of these changes take place in 5:40 minutes x adjustment for frame rate.
And the frame rate is?

Seeing how much the scene changes between the first and last frames, I think the length of time involved might be considerably longer than 5 minutes.
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Evidence supports the apparent movement of the Sun, rising by several degrees, within a short period of time.
How have you measured the change in Sun angle?
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 01:10:51 PM »
Frame rate on the film clip has not been determined.
The change in degrees of arc of the Sun has not been objectively measured.
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 01:39:22 PM »
Profmunkin,

If you aren't going to stay on the subject of a thread then start a new one. Until you figure this out your posts will require my approval before they show up in the forum.
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 02:44:23 PM »
Quote from: profmunkin on February 28, 2012, 01:10:51 PM
Frame rate on the film clip has not been determined.
The change in degrees of arc of the Sun has not been objectively measured.


At least, not by you.  So how do you know anything is wrong with them?
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 02:59:37 PM »
To get some perspective, the LM, which is 5.5m tall, will cast a shadow over a flat plane 31.2m long with a Sun angle of 10°.  After less than 2 hours, when the Sun angle is now 11°, the shadow will now be 28.3m long.

From the photos, I would guesstimate about 0.3m of movement of that shadow judging by a point in the shadow that's about half way up the spacecraft, so call it 0.6m for the top of the structure.  That's about a fifth of that, which would suggest roughly 20 minutes has elapsed between the first and last frame shown.
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 03:04:18 PM »
Quote from: profmunkin on February 28, 2012, 01:10:51 PM
Frame rate on the film clip has not been determined.

The frame rate the camera was run at is well documented.
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 04:09:50 PM »
What is the conversion through the formats?
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Re: Photos from Apollo 11 film footage
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2012, 11:14:26 PM »
Quote from: profmunkin on February 28, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
Intention is to post 7 frame capture photos from Apollo 11 film footage that includes astronauts excursion.
What is the source of these 7 frames?

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Film clip is single reel, shot continuously, at same frame rate, shutter speed and F-stop
These are clearly not 7 consecutive frames.  Explain how these particular frames were selected.


Quote from: profmunkin on February 28, 2012, 01:10:51 PM
The change in degrees of arc of the Sun has not been objectively measured.
Then you cannot support this statement:

Quote from: profmunkin on February 28, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
Evidence supports the apparent movement of the Sun, rising by several degrees, within a short period of time.
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