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Agnihotra, Sylphs and Orgonite: Chem Trail Solutions or God-Scam?
July 10, 2008 at 3:41 pm (Gurus and God-Scams)
Tags: Agni, agnihotra, chem trails, gods, orgonite, sun god, sylphs

If you know about chem trails, the toxic unexplained streaks across our skies, chances are you’ve heard of sylphs, orgonite and agnihotra as proposed remedies. Sylphs are elementals or nature spirits. The story goes that giant sylphs who live near the sun and on outer planets of our solar system are hovering around earth these days mopping up the chem trails in response to manmade objects known as orgonite and a ritual known as agnihotra.

Wikipedia gives us a quick glimpse into what agnihotra actually is:

“‘Agnihotra’ is a sacred tradition started by the ‘Rishis’ of ancient India. It is now considered by some as the worship of the Lord Yagna Naarayan. ‘Agnihotra’ then means worshipping the Lord Vishnu – Aadi Naarayan – riding on the divine serpent and controlling the infinite cosmos.”

Hello, what was that? The divine serpent? The worship of Lord Yagna Naarayan?

Agnihotra is an ancient Hindu ceremony that gives worship to the Vedic deity Agni (god of fire and sacrifice), and to Naaravan (Lord Narayana or Vishnu, the second god of the Hindu trinity), and also to the sun god, Lord Surya (sometimes spelled/pronounced Soorvava). The worship is performed by chanting mantras and making offerings into the fire, for the gods to consume as symbols of human obeisance. These acts represent giving the god to whom the sacrifice is directed one’s energy, one’s spiritual allegiance and support.

Based on my knowledge of Sanskrit, here is the mantra translation for part of the agnihotra ritual that so many well-meaning would-be-chem-trail-zappers are performing:

Soorvava Svaha

To the Sun God, I offer myself completely

Sooryaya Idam Na Mama

To the Sun God, I prostrate myself

Agnaye Sváhá


To the God of the sacrifice, I bow down

Agnaye Idam Na Mama

To the God of the sacrifice, I prostrate myself


On the educate-yourself website, one of the primary sources of the sylphs-zap-chem-trails theory, you can read an article telling how the fire sylphs, the beings you appease when you perform agnihotra, are the elementals who rule over gunfire. These beings “give you a hug when you shoot a gun,” according to the article.

The implication of the modern New Age use of agnihotra is that if we offer this worship to the gods and their fire-sylph minions, they will reward us by devouring our chem trails. Even if this were true, do we want to do rituals that empower entities who give people hugs for shooting guns? Do we really want to make offerings to Vedic deities who are the Aryan gods, the gods of Babylon transferred to Indian culture?

The Babylonian gods have been identified in the David dIcke research as identical with the entities who interbred with mankind to produce the world’s royal bloodlines, the global elite, which are behind the plan for an Orwelllian New World Order. Truthers believe the chem trails are the handiwork of the global elite. How consistent is it to also believe that the force that generates chem trails is working on mankind’s behalf to destroy chem trails?

Agnihotra links its practitioner to the gods, the dark lords that work in unseen dimensions to twist our earthly reality into a prison, for the sake of their ultimate power and control. I’ve written about the god-worship/ soul-siphoning connection in previous articles (see the “Blowing the Whistle on Enlightenment” series in the column to the left). To practice agnihotra in the belief that it is an innocent ritual that will magically clear the sky of chem trails is a mistake, as powerful an error as mantra meditation, guru worship, and any other practice that calls for surrender of the individual ego to limited entities outside oneself.

If that’s what agnihotra is about, what is the real story behind orgonite? I don’t claim to be an expert on that subject. From what I’ve read, however, I have a major concern about the hexagram built into the coils, because it’s an occult symbol with links to some very questionable things.


Again, let’s consult that friend of the common man, Wikipedia (its entry under “hexagram”):

“The six-pointed star is commonly used both as a talisman and for conjuring spirits in the practice of witchcraft. In the book, ‘The History and Practice of Magic, Vol. 2,’ the six-pointed star is called the talisman of Saturn and it is also referred to as the Seal of Solomon …

“Bradley, author of ‘Secrets of the Freemasons,’ claims: ‘the hexagram is widely associated with the occult, and is considered the most powerful of Satan’s symbols, containing ‘666.’ Occultists also call it the ‘trud’ and use it in necromantic ceremonies to summon evil spirits.’ (Bradley, ‘Secrets of the Freemasons,’ page 45)”

Is it possible then that the hexagram in the orgonite channels energy to the very beings who are ultimately responsible for the chem trails (i.e., the transdimensional beings whom the Illuminati serve)? The conspiracy is famous for creating feedback loops like this – detours – that seem to lead somewhere out of the clutches of enslavement and actually circle right around back into it. We find this in politics and religion, so why would we not find it in the neutralize-the-chem-trails movement? (For a fascinating examination of how symbols are used by the powers-that-be to trap and siphon human energy, visit Matthew Delooze’s website and books, particularly “The Stars Are Falling” and “Is It Me for a Moment?”)

If orgonite seems to work positively for some people, perhaps the reason is not sylphs but the people themselves. Thought is immensely powerful, and if a person places orgonite in strategic places thinking it will clear the atmosphere of negative influences, perhaps it will, on account of the intention and assumption of the human placing it. This would be the Dumbo Effect: when the baby elephant held a “magic” feather thinking the feather would enable him to fly, the elephant flew all right, but on account of his powerful belief, not on account of the feather.


I have trouble with the story that sylphs eat the chem trails for us when the story also goes that the sylphs had to leave their own planet when it was poisoned with a payload of plutonium. If they drown in the poison of plutonium, how can they safely consume the poison of our chem trails? It doesn’t really make sense.

While I’m convinced there are unseen entities helping mankind, I don’t believe they’re doing it as chem-trail eaters, channeled teachers, authors of divine transmissions, or any of the other flashy images the New Age is fond of waving in front of us. They help us by inspiring, by giving resources of courage and hope, by introducing profound insights, ideas and possibilities into our minds that aid in our finding the way out of the prison we’ve let be built up around us. They can’t and won’t do the work for us, and any unseen entity claiming he can and will is probably a dark lord posing as a friend, the creator of yet another enslaving circular detour.

If we want help from the realms of brilliant and magnanimous entities who work for the freedom and happiness of all beings, we need to address them in that way and ask for their subtle assistance. They will always respond. If instead of that we ask for help from Surya, Agni, Narayana, fire sylphs, sun sylphs, air sylphs or any other named entity famous for “helping” people, the odds are very high that we’re aligning ourselves with our deceivers and enslavers, dressed up in their latest disguise.

If in fact there are sylphs who work to help mankind, then addressing “you in the unseen who work for the freedom and happiness of all beings” will naturally enlist the aid of sylphs, among other generous entities. On the other hand, if sylphs are a name for a branch of the deceivers, addressing “you in the unseen who work for the freedom and happiness of all beings” will not invite the sylphs’ influence into your energy field.

It is better to be safe than foolishly trusting. Better to address requests for assistance in a way that protects one’s soul and energy than in a wide-open, trusting way that allows in any fad New Age influence that people happen to be talking about.

The transdimensional deceivers have great PR. They never come out and say, “We’re here to take your soul energy and spiritually assimilate you.” Look at how sweetly their ritual is described in the words of an agnihotra website that is popular now:

“Homa is a Sanskrit word used here synonymously with Yajnya. [Bronte’s note: “yajnya” actually translates as “sacrifice to the gods.”] …

“Homa Therapy is totally a revealed science. It is as old as creation. In the course of time this knowledge was lost, but it is now being resuscitated to give people guidance about how to correct the polluted conditions we find ourselves in on the planet today.

“Homa Therapy comes from VEDAS, the ancientmost body of knowledge known to man. The most basic Homa (Yajnya) is called AGNIHOTRA and is tuned to the biorhythm of sunrise/sunset. Performance of Agnihotra on a regular daily basis establishes the healing energies necessary for a healthy environment.”

Now what poor fool wouldn’t want to sign up for that?

(NOTE TO READERS: This article is expanded in the comment section below, where prompted by the thoughtful remarks of a reader, I write more deeply about this subjects. If you enjoy this blog, don’t skip reading the comments underneath the articles
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Ah, yes. Pretentious bullshit from a pseudo expert.

Good grief, did you read this drivel? I couldn't finish, I was laughing so hard!!! Sounds like bad dialog from a D movie script:)

Orgonite Gifter.
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I've been an orgonite vendor longer than anyone and I can tell you the origin of this agnihotra baloney. A couple of people, Mary K Croft and her husband, Al "Dragon" (should be a clue) spread this crap years ago in their ongoing effort to discredit orgonite people. They tried to get others to throw these"mudballs" at cell towers. The same couple tried to get people to spray vinegar in their yards to rid chemtrails. Yes, they are the ones started that BS.
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Personally, I've been working with orgonite for many years and have given out thousands upon thousands of pieces to people and the environment.. and I still do.. and never once ever have sold any pieces.. I'm not in it for the money.

I laugh because despite all the negative claims made by people about orgonite, once someone actually experiences it for themselves they aren't going to fall for the disinfo.

Must be a bit discouraging to all the pessimistic nay-sayers and scoffers that they're losing their propaganda campaign amongst the astute.. yet again. Thanks for the negative PR though and doing such a horrible job of it. I expect such tactics will only result in more and more people starting to look into orgonite (outside of the false perspective the nay-sayers offer) .. honestly, I was a bit surprised that the watchdogs didn't earlier try and bark at this much more. They can't be getting that smart, and well, they're proving it.

Good job at ironically defeating your intended objectives with this, once again. We'll continue handing out orgonite and letting people see for themselves while you lot scream 'sex cult' 'devil worshipers' and continue polluting the world, etc.

Peace.
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Personally, I've been working with orgonite for many years and have given out thousands upon thousands of pieces to people and the environment.. and I still do..
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"giving to the environment"... isn't that... littering?

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Agnihotra, Sylphs and Orgonite: Chem Trail Solutions or God-Scam?
July 10, 2008 at 3:41 pm (Gurus and God-Scams)
Tags: Agni, agnihotra, chem trails, gods, orgonite, sun god, sylphs

If you know about chem trails, the toxic unexplained streaks across our skies, chances are you’ve heard of sylphs, orgonite and agnihotra as proposed remedies. Sylphs are elementals or nature spirits. The story goes that giant sylphs who live near the sun and on outer planets of our solar system are hovering around earth these days mopping up the chem trails in response to manmade objects known as orgonite and a ritual known as agnihotra.

Wikipedia gives us a quick glimpse into what agnihotra actually is:

“‘Agnihotra’ is a sacred tradition started by the ‘Rishis’ of ancient India. It is now considered by some as the worship of the Lord Yagna Naarayan. ‘Agnihotra’ then means worshipping the Lord Vishnu – Aadi Naarayan – riding on the divine serpent and controlling the infinite cosmos.”

Hello, what was that? The divine serpent? The worship of Lord Yagna Naarayan?

Agnihotra is an ancient Hindu ceremony that gives worship to the Vedic deity Agni (god of fire and sacrifice), and to Naaravan (Lord Narayana or Vishnu, the second god of the Hindu trinity), and also to the sun god, Lord Surya (sometimes spelled/pronounced Soorvava). The worship is performed by chanting mantras and making offerings into the fire, for the gods to consume as symbols of human obeisance. These acts represent giving the god to whom the sacrifice is directed one’s energy, one’s spiritual allegiance and support.

Based on my knowledge of Sanskrit, here is the mantra translation for part of the agnihotra ritual that so many well-meaning would-be-chem-trail-zappers are performing:

Soorvava Svaha

To the Sun God, I offer myself completely

Sooryaya Idam Na Mama

To the Sun God, I prostrate myself

Agnaye Sváhá


To the God of the sacrifice, I bow down

Agnaye Idam Na Mama

To the God of the sacrifice, I prostrate myself


On the educate-yourself website, one of the primary sources of the sylphs-zap-chem-trails theory, you can read an article telling how the fire sylphs, the beings you appease when you perform agnihotra, are the elementals who rule over gunfire. These beings “give you a hug when you shoot a gun,” according to the article.

The implication of the modern New Age use of agnihotra is that if we offer this worship to the gods and their fire-sylph minions, they will reward us by devouring our chem trails. Even if this were true, do we want to do rituals that empower entities who give people hugs for shooting guns? Do we really want to make offerings to Vedic deities who are the Aryan gods, the gods of Babylon transferred to Indian culture?

The Babylonian gods have been identified in the David dIcke research as identical with the entities who interbred with mankind to produce the world’s royal bloodlines, the global elite, which are behind the plan for an Orwelllian New World Order. Truthers believe the chem trails are the handiwork of the global elite. How consistent is it to also believe that the force that generates chem trails is working on mankind’s behalf to destroy chem trails?

Agnihotra links its practitioner to the gods, the dark lords that work in unseen dimensions to twist our earthly reality into a prison, for the sake of their ultimate power and control. I’ve written about the god-worship/ soul-siphoning connection in previous articles (see the “Blowing the Whistle on Enlightenment” series in the column to the left). To practice agnihotra in the belief that it is an innocent ritual that will magically clear the sky of chem trails is a mistake, as powerful an error as mantra meditation, guru worship, and any other practice that calls for surrender of the individual ego to limited entities outside oneself.

If that’s what agnihotra is about, what is the real story behind orgonite? I don’t claim to be an expert on that subject. From what I’ve read, however, I have a major concern about the hexagram built into the coils, because it’s an occult symbol with links to some very questionable things.


Again, let’s consult that friend of the common man, Wikipedia (its entry under “hexagram”):

“The six-pointed star is commonly used both as a talisman and for conjuring spirits in the practice of witchcraft. In the book, ‘The History and Practice of Magic, Vol. 2,’ the six-pointed star is called the talisman of Saturn and it is also referred to as the Seal of Solomon …

“Bradley, author of ‘Secrets of the Freemasons,’ claims: ‘the hexagram is widely associated with the occult, and is considered the most powerful of Satan’s symbols, containing ‘666.’ Occultists also call it the ‘trud’ and use it in necromantic ceremonies to summon evil spirits.’ (Bradley, ‘Secrets of the Freemasons,’ page 45)”

Is it possible then that the hexagram in the orgonite channels energy to the very beings who are ultimately responsible for the chem trails (i.e., the transdimensional beings whom the Illuminati serve)? The conspiracy is famous for creating feedback loops like this – detours – that seem to lead somewhere out of the clutches of enslavement and actually circle right around back into it. We find this in politics and religion, so why would we not find it in the neutralize-the-chem-trails movement? (For a fascinating examination of how symbols are used by the powers-that-be to trap and siphon human energy, visit Matthew Delooze’s website and books, particularly “The Stars Are Falling” and “Is It Me for a Moment?”)

If orgonite seems to work positively for some people, perhaps the reason is not sylphs but the people themselves. Thought is immensely powerful, and if a person places orgonite in strategic places thinking it will clear the atmosphere of negative influences, perhaps it will, on account of the intention and assumption of the human placing it. This would be the Dumbo Effect: when the baby elephant held a “magic” feather thinking the feather would enable him to fly, the elephant flew all right, but on account of his powerful belief, not on account of the feather.


I have trouble with the story that sylphs eat the chem trails for us when the story also goes that the sylphs had to leave their own planet when it was poisoned with a payload of plutonium. If they drown in the poison of plutonium, how can they safely consume the poison of our chem trails? It doesn’t really make sense.

While I’m convinced there are unseen entities helping mankind, I don’t believe they’re doing it as chem-trail eaters, channeled teachers, authors of divine transmissions, or any of the other flashy images the New Age is fond of waving in front of us. They help us by inspiring, by giving resources of courage and hope, by introducing profound insights, ideas and possibilities into our minds that aid in our finding the way out of the prison we’ve let be built up around us. They can’t and won’t do the work for us, and any unseen entity claiming he can and will is probably a dark lord posing as a friend, the creator of yet another enslaving circular detour.

If we want help from the realms of brilliant and magnanimous entities who work for the freedom and happiness of all beings, we need to address them in that way and ask for their subtle assistance. They will always respond. If instead of that we ask for help from Surya, Agni, Narayana, fire sylphs, sun sylphs, air sylphs or any other named entity famous for “helping” people, the odds are very high that we’re aligning ourselves with our deceivers and enslavers, dressed up in their latest disguise.

If in fact there are sylphs who work to help mankind, then addressing “you in the unseen who work for the freedom and happiness of all beings” will naturally enlist the aid of sylphs, among other generous entities. On the other hand, if sylphs are a name for a branch of the deceivers, addressing “you in the unseen who work for the freedom and happiness of all beings” will not invite the sylphs’ influence into your energy field.

It is better to be safe than foolishly trusting. Better to address requests for assistance in a way that protects one’s soul and energy than in a wide-open, trusting way that allows in any fad New Age influence that people happen to be talking about.

The transdimensional deceivers have great PR. They never come out and say, “We’re here to take your soul energy and spiritually assimilate you.” Look at how sweetly their ritual is described in the words of an agnihotra website that is popular now:

“Homa is a Sanskrit word used here synonymously with Yajnya. [Bronte’s note: “yajnya” actually translates as “sacrifice to the gods.”] …

“Homa Therapy is totally a revealed science. It is as old as creation. In the course of time this knowledge was lost, but it is now being resuscitated to give people guidance about how to correct the polluted conditions we find ourselves in on the planet today.

“Homa Therapy comes from VEDAS, the ancientmost body of knowledge known to man. The most basic Homa (Yajnya) is called AGNIHOTRA and is tuned to the biorhythm of sunrise/sunset. Performance of Agnihotra on a regular daily basis establishes the healing energies necessary for a healthy environment.”

Now what poor fool wouldn’t want to sign up for that?

(NOTE TO READERS: This article is expanded in the comment section below, where prompted by the thoughtful remarks of a reader, I write more deeply about this subjects. If you enjoy this blog, don’t skip reading the comments underneath the articles
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I tuned out when the author tried to link Aryan gods with Babylonian ones.
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I am cynical, but after the heavy shillary I am going to give it a go.





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