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Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?

 
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Sure, it's fine. My ol man has been doing it all his life and hasn't gotten sick or died yet...but I keep hopin! ;)
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rofl!
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
throw it out
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I am foodsafe certified for my food business. You are exactly correct, throw it out!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
throw it out


Finally someone with common sense
 Quoting: coolhandluke74

It's just chili... throw it out. Stop being so cheap that you'd risk your life for $10.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Don't do it Pal. It's not worth risking your life for.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
If you eat it will you film yourself while wearing full face cammo and talk us through the experience?

I would appreciate it...

hf
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
You cooked it yesterday, that sterilized it. The lid prevented it from contacting the air, its ok today still. Before refrigeration, people ate stuff out of the dutch oven for days (peas porridge in the pot 9 days old). I wouldn't test it beyond 2-3 days too much, but 1 day old is fine, especially when covered, and spiced with habeneros.

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and if you use clean technique when cooking, not cross contaminating stuff


I agree w/ShadowDander and the AC. Chili cooks a long time and should have been sterile when the heat was last on.

I leave food out overnight all the time. But It does depend on what the food is.

For example, foods like chili that have garlic, onions and other allicins in it contain natural anti-microbials that kill germs. So if you cook with a lot of spices like that, you can generally expect that they take longer to spoil.

Also, if your chili has tomato and salt in it, the acid and the salt also makes it harder for most bacteria to grow.

It would take at least 2 days for something like a covered pot of chili to turn.

Left out overnight should be okay.

I wouldn't do this in any commercial operation, just my own kitchen.
 Quoting: Andromeda


The production of allicin for health maintenance has become common. The substance can be used as an antibiotic, given its anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. This helps make allicin helpful for some cases of arteriosclerosis. Along with this application, allicin is also understood to aid in dissolving excess fats in the body, and also demonstrates limited antioxidant properties as well. However, it is important to remember that allicin will not withstand a great deal of heat. Thus, cooking with crushed or minced garlic will not allow the user to receive any health benefits of these types from the allicin content of the cooked garlic.
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03/01/2010 12:13 PM
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
What's the air temperature over there?
If it's hot, DON'T!
If it's cold, go ahead.
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03/01/2010 12:18 PM
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Don't you have a neighbor you don't like? Heat it up, put it in a thermos and give it to them. If they die you'll know you made the right decision. If they come back and complain about the food poisioning they had and the symptoms (mainly galloping shits for a couple of days and a very sore and burned out asshole) you can smile and thank heaven you gave it away.

If they decide it was great and ask you to call them when you're making another batch, you may have made a friend. And Chili is cheap to make...

The rule at our house is: "If in doubt, throw it out!" No matter how costly the item, it's cheaper to replace it than one visit to the ER for fluids when you become dehydrated from pooping your brains out for a day or so! And there are certain types of bacteria floating around that could well kill you, too. It's rare but happens now and then!

Don't take stupid chances.

Not with your life to save five bucks it might cost to make another batch of chili...
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Yeah, made a pot of chili last night, forgot to put it in the fridge - been sitting for about 24 hours now covered in a saucepan. Will it be okay if I boil it before eating it?

It does have ground beef.
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just heat the fucker up you'll be fine. I survived many years with this mentality.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
You cooked it yesterday, that sterilized it. The lid prevented it from contacting the air, its ok today still. Before refrigeration, people ate stuff out of the dutch oven for days (peas porridge in the pot 9 days old).
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that was in colder climates where they didn't have central heating, b/c it hadn't been invented yet LOL... the pantry area where food was kept was often as cold as the number settings a refrigerator around the 2 or 3 mark... they didn't do it in the summer months, except with certain foods that they would cover with layers of salt in a container, or put it in a bag in a cold river (*shrug* that's my understanding, anyway)... OP you can try a spoonful or 3 and then wait and see what happens.. your system may be more tolerant to pathogens at certain stages.... mine isn't... I have to be very careful with food spoilage, everything makes me sick if it's even the slightest bit "off."

edit: here's a good link to the incubation periods (some of them are only a few hours) of common food pathogens: [link to www.extension.iastate.edu]

Last Edited by Hillcrest on 03/01/2010 12:30 PM
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
You cooked it yesterday, that sterilized it. The lid prevented it from contacting the air, its ok today still. Before refrigeration, people ate stuff out of the dutch oven for days (peas porridge in the pot 9 days old).


that was in colder climates where they didn't have central heating, b/c it hadn't been invented yet LOL... the pantry area where food was kept was often as cold as the number settings a refrigerator around the 2 or 3 mark... they didn't do it in the summer months, except with certain foods that they would cover with layers of salt in a container, or put it in a bag in a cold river (*shrug* that's my understanding, anyway)... OP you can try a spoonful or 3 and then wait and see what happens.. your system may be more tolerant to pathogens at certain stages.... mine isn't... I have to be very careful with food spoilage, everything makes me sick if it's even the slightest bit "off."
 Quoting: Hillcrest


That's true. I keep my house at 60 degrees in the Winter because we get used to it.

If I had a house at 75 degrees and had a pot of food out all night at that temp, I'm not sure it would survive.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Yeah, made a pot of chili last night, forgot to put it in the fridge - been sitting for about 24 hours now covered in a saucepan. Will it be okay if I boil it before eating it?

It does have ground beef.



just heat the fucker up you'll be fine. I survived many years with this mentality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 798164


True.
We are way more resistant than the governments and laws tell you.
Ofc, if you've lived all your live going by their rules of safety, you'll be weakened and without enough protection to withstand some environmental aggressions, as in example, a very mild decomposition of food.

Every odd year, I spend around 3 to 4 months camping with a smallest amount of money I can.
You wouldn't want to know the "rules I've infringed" on food and eating safety. Never ever had a problem with it.
Actually, the only time I remember having problem with bad food, was once I ate in a restaurant.

Obviously, you need to know the thresholds of such acts. There are some foods that you can't do that, others that you can.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
You cooked it yesterday, that sterilized it. The lid prevented it from contacting the air, its ok today still. Before refrigeration, people ate stuff out of the dutch oven for days (peas porridge in the pot 9 days old). I wouldn't test it beyond 2-3 days too much, but 1 day old is fine, especially when covered, and spiced with habeneros.

bump




and if you use clean technique when cooking, not cross contaminating stuff


I agree w/ShadowDander and the AC. Chili cooks a long time and should have been sterile when the heat was last on.

I leave food out overnight all the time. But It does depend on what the food is.

For example, foods like chili that have garlic, onions and other allicins in it contain natural anti-microbials that kill germs. So if you cook with a lot of spices like that, you can generally expect that they take longer to spoil.

Also, if your chili has tomato and salt in it, the acid and the salt also makes it harder for most bacteria to grow.

It would take at least 2 days for something like a covered pot of chili to turn.

Left out overnight should be okay.

I wouldn't do this in any commercial operation, just my own kitchen.


The production of allicin for health maintenance has become common. The substance can be used as an antibiotic, given its anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. This helps make allicin helpful for some cases of arteriosclerosis. Along with this application, allicin is also understood to aid in dissolving excess fats in the body, and also demonstrates limited antioxidant properties as well. However, it is important to remember that allicin will not withstand a great deal of heat. Thus, cooking with crushed or minced garlic will not allow the user to receive any health benefits of these types from the allicin content of the cooked garlic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 843294


Cooking does destroy a lot of allicin, but it doesn't destroy it totally. Microwaving does destroy 100% of allicin in foods, tho.

I don't know if I've mentioned it before, but in foods that take a lot of garlic, like Italian and Spanish-style cooking, I'll add additional raw grated garlic after I turn off the heat. This is to increase the health benefit from the garlic.

Some dishes you can add some raw garlic to, and chili is one of them. You can also add raw chopped onions to chili as a topping when serving, and that's good, too!
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Mix it with the potato egg salad thats been sitting out and you'll be fine!
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
I do it all the time. eat it and ignore the wimps
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 897876


Looking for an amen?
You got one.

When TSHTF a true survivalist would kill for a pot of day-old unrefrigerated chili.

There are different rules for storing cooked and uncooked foods, and people should learn these rules. There are some meats that are normally stored without refrigeration, and there is no risk of food poisoning. One of my favorite lunch meats is Lebanon Bologna, a smoked beef delicacy. I live in Florida and when I order some from Lebanon, Pa, it is shipped by regular mail without dry ice. American Indians traveled for days using prepared pemmican for food and they never got sick from it. Pemmican is made from beef jerky, rendered animal fat and various berries.

There is nothing wrong with being prudent, but being too prudent is almost as dangerous as not being careful enough.

Final word to OP: Eat the damn chili and enjoy! There is no danger whatsoever.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Does she have a last name?
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
well did you eat it?
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Anything that sits out for longer then 4 hours you should not eat.

40-140 is the danger zone and if left in this range for longer then 4 hours should not be eaten


Agreed, but won't heating it to above 160 for a few minutes kill whatever harmful bacteria has grown?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 886109


If you know that, why would you ask here?

100c boiling is even higher and will kill any bacteria that flowered.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
well did you eat it?
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OP is dead.







1rof1
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You will shit your pants while eating at McDonalds tomorrow.


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

that reads like the fortune cookie message from hell.
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lmao
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Heat it and eat it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 903741

Add a little water and heat it slowly. I leave chili and spag sauce out overnight, then just make sure I heat it up well before eating it the next day. Been doing this for 30 years and have never gotten sick yet, but do make sure you heat it up. I do the same with a big pot of soup, keep it simmering all day, then turn it off at night and leave it on the stove.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Yes,BUT.........You MUST bring to boil AT LEAST 400 Degress!!! NOT 399..350.. 400!!!! OR DEADLY!!

damned
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
well, OP said he was going to try the chili 2 days ago, and has not checked back in...

you guys killed him.


and he was a chili-lover, so we know he was an OK guy...

I hope you can live with yourselves.

1rof1


seriously though.. I hope he didn't get sick or anything. rose

Last Edited by Hillcrest on 03/02/2010 03:40 PM
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
well did you eat it?


OP is dead.







1rof1
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I think you are right. What a waste of human life, trying to save a few cents.

Last Edited by Dirtfarmer on 03/02/2010 03:47 PM
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
I know a guy who almost died doing that.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
REFRY THAT FUCKER AND ENJOY BRA!!
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Anything that sits out for longer then 4 hours you should not eat.

40-140 is the danger zone and if left in this range for longer then 4 hours should not be eaten


Agreed, but won't heating it to above 160 for a few minutes kill whatever harmful bacteria has grown?


I would not risk it
 Quoting: coolhandluke74
i wouldn't even feed it to the raccoons, but then i'm kinda overly hygenic anyway.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Only if you want to shit so hard that you feel like you're turning inside out.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Ive had soup on the stove for 5-6 days at a time i just boil it once or twice a day and keep a lid on it. Its fine. People get too paranoid about that shit. I did get botulism once but that was my mothers fault and I don't cook like her. Being overly sterile weakens your immune system.
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Re: Can I eat chili that sat out overnight (covered in a saucepan)?
Does it have mold on it yet? poop

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