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The delusion that is coming on this world

 
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The delusion that is coming on this world
The RAPTURE will soon happen and the Anti-Christ will rise.

He will proclaim himself to be the saviour. To be Jesus Christ, Buddha, Madhi, or whatever else religious figure you like.

He will perform miracles and the whole world will "Wonder after the Beast".

He will tell this lie, that he took all the "evil" people away and that is how he will explain the RAPTURE. He will fool them into thinking that the RAPTURE was the removal of all the "evil" people. The troublemakers, the ones that were causing division, etc...

This is the great delusion. The anti-christ will make everyone believe that he is The God. This is exactly what the Bible says he will do in the event: The Abomination That Causes Desolation.

This is how the devil will fool the world and almost every one left that did not believe in God but were left behind after the RAPTURE will fall into this trap and snare and be eternally condemned.

This is the delusion that is coming.

2 Thessalonians 2: 5-12

"5Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness."
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Come back in 6 years...
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Any chance you can stick to the 2 or 3 threads you started last night on this subject? Just curious.
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will there be ice cream and pop corn....will there be like a Godzilla smashing up the cityies.

religious prophecy stuff is so boring.i cant be arsed with fairtales...anyone can make stuff up!!
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Look around you people. Look whats going around in the world. Can't you SEE it? The end is approaching. The world as we know it is coming to an end.

Jesus Crist is coming back. The moment you realize that and start fearing for your eternal salvation and fearing God is when you realize you need to GET RIGHT WITH GOD.

This is the beginning of wisdom. Come to Jesus Christ and put your Faith and Trust in Him. Be assured of your salvation in Jesus Christ!!!

God Bless!!!


Proverbs 9:10

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."
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The delusion that is on this world

tv internet.
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Look around you people. Look whats going around in the world. Can't you SEE it? The end is approaching. The world as we know it is coming to an end.

Jesus Crist is coming back. The moment you realize that and start fearing for your eternal salvation and fearing God is when you realize you need to GET RIGHT WITH GOD.

This is the beginning of wisdom. Come to Jesus Christ and put your Faith and Trust in Him. Be assured of your salvation in Jesus Christ!!!

God Bless!!!


Proverbs 9:10

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


How many more negative responses from us until your "God Bless" turns into threats of something called "eternal death" again?

;)
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Look around you people. Look whats going around in the world. Can't you SEE it? The end is approaching. The world as we know it is coming to an end.

Jesus Crist is coming back. The moment you realize that and start fearing for your eternal salvation and fearing God is when you realize you need to GET RIGHT WITH GOD.

This is the beginning of wisdom. Come to Jesus Christ and put your Faith and Trust in Him. Be assured of your salvation in Jesus Christ!!!

God Bless!!!


Proverbs 9:10

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."


How many more negative responses from us until your "God Bless" turns into threats of something called "eternal death" again?

;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 900432



You call them threats but that is the fruit of those that deny the TRUTH of Jesus Christ.

The Bible speak it true, it is not MY message but what the Word, written in the Bible profess.

Those who reject Jesus Christ will go to Hell. Into Eternal Death.

This is the TRUTH of the Bible.

I cannot change this nor can you. It is the eternal testimony of the Word of God.
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your thread made my bowel move violently and i was out of toiletpaper, but i found a good alternative : the book from where you get your info. That was just perfect
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your thread made my bowel move violently and i was out of toiletpaper, but i found a good alternative : the book from where you get your info. That was just perfect
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Make sure you check for ink spot in your "hole".
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How many more negative responses from us until your "God Bless" turns into threats of something called "eternal death" again?

;)



You call them threats but that is the fruit of those that deny the TRUTH of Jesus Christ.

The Bible speak it true, it is not MY message but what the Word, written in the Bible profess.

Those who reject Jesus Christ will go to Hell. Into Eternal Death.

This is the TRUTH of the Bible.

I cannot change this nor can you. It is the eternal testimony of the Word of God.
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I guess I'm in luck then since Christ Jesus died for my sins.
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The delusion that is on this world

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No, the delusion on this world are it's religions.
How many millions have died in the name of their god?
Do you realize how barbaric that is? just imagine how much further along we might be if we had not held ourselves back by killing over words and faiths. Better yet, what brilliant minds did we kill in the process?
How sad...
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How many more negative responses from us until your "God Bless" turns into threats of something called "eternal death" again?

;)



You call them threats but that is the fruit of those that deny the TRUTH of Jesus Christ.

The Bible speak it true, it is not MY message but what the Word, written in the Bible profess.

Those who reject Jesus Christ will go to Hell. Into Eternal Death.

This is the TRUTH of the Bible.

I cannot change this nor can you. It is the eternal testimony of the Word of God.


I guess I'm in luck then since Christ Jesus died for my sins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 900432



He died for everyone's sins.
There is no "luck" involved in salvation.

It is your CHOICE to choose to accept that grace He gives you and put your Faith and Trust in Him.

God Bless!!!
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your thread made my bowel move violently and i was out of toiletpaper, but i found a good alternative : the book from where you get your info. That was just perfect



Make sure you check for ink spot in your "hole".
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my hole is now spotless, thanks to the grat book of farytails
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The delusion that is on this world

tv internet.


No, the delusion on this world are it's religions.
How many millions have died in the name of their god?
Do you realize how barbaric that is? just imagine how much further along we might be if we had not held ourselves back by killing over words and faiths. Better yet, what brilliant minds did we kill in the process?
How sad...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878570



Jesus Christ is God. He raises the dead, but fear Him who has the power to send your eternal soul to hell.

For no one has that power but God.

And unfortunately it is by our choice we go to hell because we failed to accept the TRUTH of our Lord Jesus Christ and His Grace, when He gave it to us.

Those who reject forgiveness will have their own sin, BY THEIR CHOICE, condemn them into eternal death.
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Look around you people. Look whats going around in the world. Can't you SEE it? The end is approaching. The world as we know it is coming to an end.
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no one really gives a shit, you could tell them exactlly what they need to do in order to whatever and they still wouldnt listen or give a shit just follow what you know they will die.
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your thread made my bowel move violently and i was out of toiletpaper, but i found a good alternative : the book from where you get your info. That was just perfect



Make sure you check for ink spot in your "hole".



my hole is now spotless, thanks to the grat book of farytails
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ah so which fairy tale book did you use to wipe your ass? Did you pat your bottom good with some pixi dust?
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And unfortunately it is by our choice we go to hell because we failed to accept the TRUTH of our Lord Jesus Christ and His Grace, when He gave it to us.

Those who reject forgiveness will have their own sin, BY THEIR CHOICE, condemn them into eternal death.
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And He's either too weak or too indifferent to straighten them out and prevent such a fate? That would suck.
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Look around you people. Look whats going around in the world. Can't you SEE it? The end is approaching. The world as we know it is coming to an end.



no one really gives a shit, you could tell them exactlly what they need to do in order to whatever and they still wouldnt listen or give a shit just follow what you know they will die.
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I'm but a messenger. I just spread the message, I don't force YOU to do anything.

As I have said it is your own CHOICE that condemns you. I am only here to give the message of Life that those that are His will hear it and heed His Grace and accept it to be saved.
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And unfortunately it is by our choice we go to hell because we failed to accept the TRUTH of our Lord Jesus Christ and His Grace, when He gave it to us.

Those who reject forgiveness will have their own sin, BY THEIR CHOICE, condemn them into eternal death.


And He's either too weak or too indifferent to straighten them out and prevent such a fate? That would suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 900432



If He used force to make you submit, would that be love? Would that be FREEDOM OF CHOICE?

Perhaps you should think on what exactly it would imply if God made everyone DO what He wanted them to do. They'd all be a bunch of pre-programmed robots.

But that isn't what God created. God created you with the freedom to CHOOSE and He respect that right you have to CHOOSE.

It is by your own choice you condemn yourself, if you reject the TRUTH that is IN YOUR FACE.

If you were on a bridge and the only way to get to the other side was that bridge you'd go straight until you came out the other side. otherwise, if you deviate you'd fall of that bridge and die.

Same deal. Jesus Christ is IN YOUR FACE telling you that He is the way to Salvation. But if you reject it, you fall off that bridge and you die.
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OK, but "every knee will bow and every tongue confess the Lord", right? Isn't this how we tell people they can be saved? It sounds rather like a win-win scenario. We know He won't be forcing people into this confession, since it says it occurs "to the glory of the Father", and there's no glory in forcing subjects to submit against their will. We can only conclude they pledge this allegiance in full sincerity. In such case, how can they not be saved? Are people going to willingly acknowledge Christ Jesus as Lord and somehow be *denied* the promised salvation of doing do?!
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OK, but "every knee will bow and every tongue confess the Lord", right? Isn't this how we tell people they can be saved? It sounds rather like a win-win scenario. We know He won't be forcing people into this confession, since it says it occurs "to the glory of the Father", and there's no glory in forcing subjects to submit against their will. We can only conclude they pledge this allegiance in full sincerity. In such case, how can they not be saved? Are people going to willingly acknowledge Christ Jesus as Lord and somehow be *denied* the promised salvation of doing do?!
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This happens at the end during the Final Judgement.
Every knee will and every tongue confess because when they see God face to face, they are going to be so overwhelmed by His presence they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God.

But just because you confess it then doesn't mean your sins are forgiven. Because your sins can only be forgiven IF YOU BELIEVED IN JESUS CHRIST.

If you don't have a ticket to get into the show, tough luck.
That ticket is Jesus Christ.
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This happens at the end during the Final Judgement.
Every knee will and every tongue confess because when they see God face to face, they are going to be so overwhelmed by His presence they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God.
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OK, so it will be forced? GLOW-reh!


tough luck.
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:)
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This happens at the end during the Final Judgement.
Every knee will and every tongue confess because when they see God face to face, they are going to be so overwhelmed by His presence they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God.


OK, so it will be forced? GLOW-reh!



tough luck.


:)
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Hey I know how you like to try to put words into people's mouth but I didn't say it will be forced, that's what you say and think.

I'm saying when you stand face to face with God, YOU are going to get down on your knees and start confessing that HE is God, because you are going to be so overwhelmed by the presense of the almighty creator's presence that you won't think of anything else to do but to Confess.

But honestly its really no matter. If you already rejected Him before you met Him, your destination is hell anyway so who really cares what you think?

You made your choice. If you want to choose eternal damnation that is again, wholly up to you.

And yeah it is tough luck :)
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This happens at the end during the Final Judgement.
Every knee will and every tongue confess because when they see God face to face, they are going to be so overwhelmed by His presence they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God.


OK, so it will be forced? GLOW-reh!



tough luck.


:)



Hey I know how you like to try to put words into people's mouth but I didn't say it will be forced, that's what you say and think.

I'm saying when you stand face to face with God, YOU are going to get down on your knees and start confessing that HE is God, because you are going to be so overwhelmed by the presense of the almighty creator's presence that you won't think of anything else to do but to Confess.

But honestly its really no matter. If you already rejected Him before you met Him, your destination is hell anyway so who really cares what you think?

You made your choice. If you want to choose eternal damnation that is again, wholly up to you.

And yeah it is tough luck :)
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Yeah, I'm a real sidewinder. I was just quoting where you said "they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God".
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This happens at the end during the Final Judgement.
Every knee will and every tongue confess because when they see God face to face, they are going to be so overwhelmed by His presence they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God.


OK, so it will be forced? GLOW-reh!



tough luck.


:)



Hey I know how you like to try to put words into people's mouth but I didn't say it will be forced, that's what you say and think.

I'm saying when you stand face to face with God, YOU are going to get down on your knees and start confessing that HE is God, because you are going to be so overwhelmed by the presense of the almighty creator's presence that you won't think of anything else to do but to Confess.

But honestly its really no matter. If you already rejected Him before you met Him, your destination is hell anyway so who really cares what you think?

You made your choice. If you want to choose eternal damnation that is again, wholly up to you.

And yeah it is tough luck :)


Yeah, I'm a real sidewinder. I was just quoting where you said "they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God".
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Yeah you sure are practiced at being a con-artist aren't you?

Next time if your going to quote me, QUOTE THE ENTIRE CONTEXT OF WHAT I SAID. It just makes you look like a real snake if you don't. Ya know?

Here is what i actually said in full.

"Every knee will and every tongue confess because when they see God face to face, they are going to be so overwhelmed by His presence they won't be able to do anything else but confess He is God."
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(How does defining the cause of their inability to do anything but confess change the assertion that they can't do anything else?)
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(How does defining the cause of their inability to do anything but confess change the assertion that they can't do anything else?)
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Because being overwhelmed by the presence of the almighty is not a FORCEFUL action to make you choose but you are indeed influenced by His presence to choose. But you STILL have the right to choose your action.

That IS the difference. It is still not FORCED.
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(How does defining the cause of their inability to do anything but confess change the assertion that they can't do anything else?)



Because being overwhelmed by the presence of the almighty is not a FORCEFUL action to make you choose but you are indeed influenced by His presence to choose. But you STILL have the right to choose your action.

That IS the difference. It is still not FORCED.
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I see. And per mainstream christianity and its bloodlust/death-fixation, He can't find a way to do this before it's supposedly "too late"?
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(How does defining the cause of their inability to do anything but confess change the assertion that they can't do anything else?)



Because being overwhelmed by the presence of the almighty is not a FORCEFUL action to make you choose but you are indeed influenced by His presence to choose. But you STILL have the right to choose your action.

That IS the difference. It is still not FORCED.


I see. And per mainstream christianity and its bloodlust/death-fixation, He can't find a way to do this before it's supposedly "too late"?
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I just got through telling you that Jesus Christ already died for you and gave you the CHOICE to CHOOSE Him or not.

What exactly do you mean by "He can't find a way to do this before it's supposedly "too late"?

I JUST TOLD YOU HE ALREADY DID.

I'm not really sure what you don't "get" by not understanding that it is BY YOUR CHOICE to have Faith In Him that you are saved?

That it comes down to your CHOICE?

That is our option right there. God already finished the end result for you by sending His son Jesus Christ to die on a cross for ALL YOUR SINS.

The only thing remaing for us to do is accept Jesus Christ and Lord and Saviour because of what He did, that by having Faith and belief in Him, we BELIEVE that we are forgiven by the action He did on that cross, dying for our sins and washing us pure by His blood.

Why exactly do you think Jesus Christ needs to do more, when He already finished the job and gave YOU the easy part about just believing in what He did to be saved?

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