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NASA and the link between Joe Stack and John Bedell

 
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Hall of fame this after pinning it forever.
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This is one GREAT THREAD.
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Nothing i enjoy more than a tall glass of lemonade and telling the truth.
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ya sounds like a movie I saw.
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or the TV show "LOST"
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Can't forget this thread. Remember this.
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remember this thread
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Nothing i enjoy more than a tall glass of lemonade and telling the truth.
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I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame
' "Those who give up freedom in the name of security deserve neither".
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Was the OP talking about President Grover Cleveland?
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Grover Cleveland

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??? I was just reading this thread last night (May 6, 2010), this thread was started around May 4, 2010 now the dates are saying March? Did I miss something?


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I was ALWAYS originally posted in March.
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Awesome read! Thrilling even!

At the very least this is truly awesome fiction based on real-life occurrences!

Rock on.

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op are you still there?
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06/03/2010 03:13 PM
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So I read the whole thread, well, in fact browsing to search for the OP's answer. As far I can see, he claimed to use a number of proxies. The last one would give him the User ID: 803615. Under that User ID he claimed that no one will be able to post using that proxy for some privacy reason I can't remember now.

But...

I made a simple search of responses of that particular User ID 803615, and I found that he replied in many threads, for example, in this thread he said:

Thread: Is this wrong

"Is This wrong" (thread title)

User ID: 803615 comments:

Most pedophiles try to cover up their dirty sexual exploitation of people by claiming that they were doing it for alternative motives while their true motive was gaining sexual pleasure from the act. You fit this description perfectly. You are sick.

Date of posting: 4/3/2010 4:30 PM

So, if he was certain that no one will post under that proxy, why is that the same User ID is talking about such things like cited above? It doesn't make sense.
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To clarify the above, I found that this User ID was used before the creation of this very thread:

Thread: Every time I look at a clock I see numbers

"Every time I look at a clock I see numbers"

Whenever I look at any clock, I always see numbers. It is the strangest thing. They always add up anywhere from 0 to 71. It is really starting to creep me out. Anyone else experience this?

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2/23/2010 11:59 AM

As you see, the post was made BEFORE this thread.

The first post of this particular User ID was the next one:

Thread: Lazy teenagers

"Lazy Teenagers"

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10/26/2009 7:42 PM

Again, doesn't make any sense.
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Well, this was a fun read.
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After a careful period of reflection....on some of the OPs claims I have to reserve judgement on whether this is mere fictional story telling or actual fact. He bases this Nasa/NSA 27 hour continuous peeking into the future ability, on Einsteins Special theory of Relativity, the Lorrentz transformations and satellite time dilation.

I love a good conspiracy story, that might be all this is!

But keep in mind that at best that pop hero of science, Einstein, was little more than a very successful plagiarists. His " theories"(the few that might have actually been his) are often based on false presuppositions derived from Enlightenment philosophy about the nature of the universe. Of course, this alone does not PROVE that the project is not actually taking place, but I suggest some one raise the red flag of caution!
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First, we are going to need a few definitions:
For the purpose this essay, the definition of energy is: a necessary condition for a particle to exist in time. Therefore we can say: a particle has energy if and only if it exists in time.
Time will be casually defined as a "release valve" for energy. So, time allows particles to release energy.

Definition of a Vector Space:
A vector space defined over a field K is a set V with two operations: vector addition, which we will denote as +, and scalar multiplication, denoted using concatenation, satisfying the following axioms:
1.) V is an Abelian group with operation vector addition
2.) V is closed under scalar multiplication. Also, if a and b are in K and v is in V, then
1v = v (where 1 is the identity vector) and (ab)v = a(bv)
3.) the distributive law holds

Definition of Linear Subspace
If V is a vector space over a field K and W is a non-empty subset of V, then W is called a linear subspace of V (over K) if and if W is a vector space using the same operations as those in V.

Definition of span
Given a set of vectors S = { v in V : i in I}, where V is a vector space and I is some index set, then the collection of all finite linear combinations of elements of S is called the span of S, and is denoted by span(S).

That concludes our definitions, now on to theorems we will need.
Theorem 1.1
The subset W1 = {0} is a subspace of all V vector spaces.

Let the vector space V represent all possible permutations of time that a particle may exist in, then, assuming the present is the 0 vector, the energy of a particle represents the subspace S of time. All of the actual instances of time we exist in is represented by span(S). So let us say a particles energy level is relatively low and only includes the subspace 0, then the span(0) = 0 which means we only exist in the present. The linear subspace S increases as energy is added, therefore increasing span(S), which means the instances of time a particle exists in is increasing. As a particle begins to lose energy, the cardinality of span(S) decreases. This means that whenever a particle loses enough energy it span(S) will collapse back to the 0 vector. This explains the twin paradox. The man returns younger than his twin because his span(S) collapses back to a span(S) = {0} at an earlier point than his brothers span(S) = {0 sub(1)} (note: sub(1) denotes subscript 1).
The problem of locality has long escaped quantum physicists, and it is no different for me. For some unknown reason, a particle whose |span(S)| > 0 is able to communicate with itself instantaneously over its different components of span(S). Hence, when the satellite exists in more than one subspace S, the satellite of time 0 (present) retains all information of the same satellite at the component 1 (future) of subspace S.
So in layman's terms, as the satellite's energy speed continues to increase, it's mass does not change as it is described in mainstream physics, but the time frames in which it exists increases. At the mid level energy spaces, this makes the satellite appear to gain more mass, but once it reaches high energy levels this effect is exonerated. The satellite then "exists" in more than one instance of time, but retains all the information that all the other replicas of itself in different time frames hold due to locality. This makes it possible to exert information from the future.

Note: this is not meant to be a formal proof and it is my hope that anyone with a simple understanding of linear algebra may be able to interpret this.
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This is the OP of this thread. This is my second post. Lachlan Cranswick was also a member of our team. He went into hiding on Jan 18 because that is when we realized the lethality of our situation. The last time I was contacted by him was in April and haven't heard from him since. It was from his ideas that I was able to correctly derive the proper equations for time dialation. Cranswick was a brilliant man, and visitors of this forum should know that he played a monumental role in our discovery.
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Lachlan Cranswick was found dead in a river in Canada:
Thread: Former GLP Member Finally Located...Deceased :(

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Lachlan Cranswick was a kind, shy and generous man, his older brother, Rupert, said Tuesday.

Speaking by phone from Australia, where Cranswick is originally from, Rupert said he went through his brother’s personal records earlier this year and discovered that Lachlan had been donating a lot of money to charities monthly. A few years ago, Lachlan also sent large sums to his brothers to help them support their families.


“It was just unbelievable,” Rupert said. “He was that sort of brother.”

He also said Lachlan was supposed to travel to Australia last month to visit his family.

“I would have preferred another sort of closure, but at least we know where he is and we can bring him back to rest, bring him back to his family,” Rupert said.


Lachlan, a National Research Council scientist at the Chalk River Laboratories, went missing in January, and his case baffled police.


The 41-year-old physicist was unmarried and was last seen on Jan. 18. He appeared to have put out his garbage the next morning.


Four days later, after he failed to turn up for a curling event, a search began. However, the trail was cold, with nothing to suggest either foul play or suicide.


His wallet and laptop were in his unlocked home, and his car was parked there, too. Extensive ground searches using dogs and helicopters found nothing.


On Tuesday, though, Rupert said police had notified the family over the weekend that a man’s body was discovered Friday in shallow water by two people canoeing on the Ottawa River near Welsh Bay, downriver from Deep River.


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Has anybody been able to debunk this thread yet?
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"Has anybody been able to debunk this thread yet?"

Nope.


OP, be safe. God Bless.
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OP posted this morning.
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This is the OP of this thread. This is my second post. Lachlan Cranswick was also a member of our team. He went into hiding on Jan 18 because that is when we realized the lethality of our situation. The last time I was contacted by him was in April and haven't heard from him since. It was from his ideas that I was able to correctly derive the proper equations for time dialation. Cranswick was a brilliant man, and visitors of this forum should know that he played a monumental role in our discovery.
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I don't believe that you're T.S.G. I believe he would have been caught quickly.

The following three posts:

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INDU: 10688.63 4:00 pm (EST) 03/08/2010 (OP)
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Sir, it appears that my friend Karl was correct? Have you been following the election? The key to the entire race is a fog of confusion with the misdirection of a magician. A people's race? History of the United States refutes thiz inn.
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I'm afraid the clock is off. It is 2:58.

We are here plunged in politics funnier than words can express. Very great issues are involved, but the amusing thing is that no one talks about real interests. By common consent they agree to let those alone. We are afraid to discuss them. Instead of this the press is engaged in a most amusing dispute whether Mr. Cleveland had an illegitimate child and did or did not live with more than one mistress.

As for Karl, he is gone, but perhaps correct.
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are maybe not by T.S.G.
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"Aussie scientist's body found in Canadian river"
Updated Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:44pm AEST


Lachlan Cranswick, 41, vanished from his home in Deep River in mid January. (supplied)

AUDIO: Melbourne scientist found dead in Canada (PM)
RELATED STORY: Nuclear scientist disappears in Canada
RELATED STORY: Missing scientist's brother ready for bad news
Canadian police have found the body of missing Australian nuclear scientist Lachlan Cranswick.

Mr Cranswick, 41, went missing in wintry conditions in January near his home in Deep River, Ontario.

His Melbourne-based brother initially thought the disappearance was suspicious.

But Rupert Cranswick has told PM that it now appeared his brother's death was accidental.

"Two canoeists had come across a body in the Ottawa river. It was likely it was my little brother," he said.

"They found him in two and a half feet of water, the water level had dropped considerably because of lack of rain.

"He still had his jacket on and boots and when the police recovered him. They found his photo ID and some other personal cards on his as well, so it pretty much indicated that it was Lachlan."

Rupert Cranswick says police still have no idea what happened.

"The likely thing is that he went for a walk," he said.

"I've read other articles from Canada where some of the people said that the wolves get quite aggressive. Something might have scared him [so] that he decided to walk along the river.

"They believe that the river back then the ice was rather thin and so it was conceivable that he might have taken a chance and walked on the ice and went in."

At the time his brother went missing, Rupert Cranswick described the apparent disappearance as very much out of character.

Lachlan Cranswick's house was found unlocked and his wallet and keys were inside.

Rupert Cranswick says his brother was known to go for walks, but the circumstances are still surprising.

"I still find it hard to believe that he was going for a walk at 11:30 at night when he had to work the next morning," he said.

"But I mean, I don't know my brother's habits too much, what he did in Canada, and his colleagues told me that Lachlan was a night owl and that he might have decided to just go for a quick walk and fresh air."

Rupert Cranswick says police do not think the death is suspicious but are doing an autopsy.

"I think they're looking at all possibilities," he said.

"But they could never dig up any evidence that Lachlan had caused anyone to really want to hurt him."

Rupert Cranswick says there is no reason to suggest his brother's work at a nuclear facility played any role in his death, as all his research was well-publicised and open to public scrutiny.

He says his brother's death is a great loss to science.

"He did a lot of work for the universities around Canada and America, research work, so a lot of the academics would come to him and he'd set up experiments to do material analysis. He was very good at what he did; he was a world expert. He did do a lot of lectures and travelled around the world doing that," he said.

"I've had some emails from some of his colleagues around the world who have expressed their sympathy."

Rupert Cranswick said some of Lachlan's loved ones were "living in a fairyland" thinking he might still be alive.

"Everyone was telling us that when the ice melted and the water starts to warm up that's when we might find a result," he said.

"But when you get a result like that coming back you know that brings a dagger in, doesn't it?

"I remember there was another Australian scientist over there who'd been there for 30 years and when I went there looking for my brother, he sat me down one night.

"He told me, 'You know Rupert, all the theories that are going around are complete bullshit and that really, your little brother's in the river'."
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I am T.S.G's partner. I have not been able to contact him for the past 4 days. The information he referenced in his first post was released to the proper channels three days ago. It should show up on wikileaks within the next month.

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