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NASA and the link between Joe Stack and John Bedell

 
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He's using a proxy, so it could be someone else. But that looks like a mathematician's thought process, and it also looks like coded communications, perhaps between TSG and Bedell. It was just a few days after the IRS building incident.

Thread: Every time I look at a clock I see numbers


Specifically this portion.

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In an experiment, I discovered that when i cut the cord off of the microwave it no longer displayed numbers! It is now a handy storage device for my ham radios. EMP proof i`m told.
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"You did it wrong. You should not have cut the cord. You put your electronic equipment in the microwave and then turn it on. The microwaves form a shield around your electronics and protect them."


Yep. I thought the same.
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User 895941 & 899314 from the "Re: Every time I look at a clock I see numbers" thread also seem to be part of the coded communications. They use capitals in odd places and make esoteric replies.

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"maybe time would be easier to understand if clocks didn't have numbers...." Thread: Every time I look at a clock I see numbers

"Be sure to leave him a Drop of water on your desk."
Thread: A Spider is looking at me

"Well GM did steal the grill design from JEEP."
Thread: BUMMER FOR HUMMER_General Motors Co.'s deal to sell the Hummer brand to CHINA_NO HUMMER

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This rabbit hole does seem to go deep.
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bump for a LONG over due pin!!
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I posted the original post to over a dozen different conspiracy sites this morning. I googled an hour later using the query below, and almost all of the threads were already showing in the google results.

Now only one of them is showing in Google search. This is not normal.

[link to www.google.com]
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Aaaaaand still no pin. Not like this is the most interesting thread on the entire site or anything.

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All you have to say is google "ATS" go to the fifth site listed.

5a
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Google results are different for everyone. There's artificial intelligence involved that knows your search history, your location, the links you click on, the links you ignore, new additions, and lastly, who paid the most in Google AdSense auctions. No two query results are ever the same, even for you after a few searches.
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coff bump coff
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I for one am interested in this post, although there are always going to be trolls and disinformers, there is something about the op that to me shows he may be genuine.
i wouldnt say he is for real 100 percent but i will keep an eye on this.
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Boo, when you search USER ID: 876768. You see he's an old poster. We've unsurprisingly been duped.

I still gave ya five stars for the cool story! banana2

Of course you have seen the user ID before because it is a proxy server in Portugal. I am currently tunnelled to the proxy through 171 machines. The proxy is secretaccess.org.
I meant NASA and I also meant it when I said NSA as well. NASA's satellite collect the data and it is then stored in NSA's database.
I do not have time right at the moment to explain exactly how it works. Look up the twin paradox, Special theory of Relativity (not general) and the Lorrentz transformations. When the satellite reaches high speeds, in a sense it can "see" into the future--but only in the sense of EM waves--but its mass exists in the present which allows for government agencies a way to extract EM waves from the future.
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You are Amazing OP! You guys were definitely onto something. Forget what these folks on here are saying. They'll put that damned BS flag on their loved ones grave-sight. I'm reading all of the pages in this thread to see if I spot something interesting. So, for now my question is to you, OP... What were your buddies onto? They had to be onto something very major? For the both of them to end up dead. You started this thread, so you have to tell us more. They must've finally cracked the code, and found out something?
If you are receiving this transmission, then you are part of the Resistance!
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I guess the OP abandoned this thread?
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I guess the OP abandoned this thread?
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Everything feels like it is a dream. I have not slept since 5:30 a.m. yesterday and I have spent my entire day in a state that feels like a continuous anxiety attack. I really want to answer questions because I think it is important everyone knows, but I must try and sleep because I just want this anxiety/depersonalisation feeling to stop. If I remember correctly, I estimated the satellite was put up on 6/19/86 but did not have the range into the future it has right now, this has built up slowly over time and continues to increase (but don't hold me to it, my memory is absent at the moment, but you will have an answer before 5:29 am tomorrow).
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No, he had to get some sleep per the above.

By the way, the OP is now AC# 803615. He changed proxies. Read the whole thread, it's very interesting.
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testing secretaccess
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As an update, please ignore any future posts by 876768, the original OP number. The OP is now using Anonymous Coward 803615 He has said he will return sometime before tomorrow at 5:30 am (not sure what time zone).

Boo, when you search USER ID: 876768. You see he's an old poster. We've unsurprisingly been duped.

I still gave ya five stars for the cool story! banana2

Of course you have seen the user ID before because it is a proxy server in Portugal. I am currently tunnelled to the proxy through 171 machines. The proxy is secretaccess.org.
I meant NASA and I also meant it when I said NSA as well. NASA's satellite collect the data and it is then stored in NSA's database.
I do not have time right at the moment to explain exactly how it works. Look up the twin paradox, Special theory of Relativity (not general) and the Lorrentz transformations. When the satellite reaches high speeds, in a sense it can "see" into the future--but only in the sense of EM waves--but its mass exists in the present which allows for government agencies a way to extract EM waves from the future.
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Myself - I go with HOAX for this Thread!!!

Daniel



The OP is putting himself in a lot of jeopardy by associating himself with Stack and Bedell. Only a fool with do that unless he was telling the truth. I don't think it's a hoax.
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bump
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'n a bump

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John Bedell and Joe Stack were not terrorist, they were good friends of mine. In 1996, we met at an embedded systems conference in Sacramento. I do not feel like typing out all the details, but we hit it off right from the beginning. We begin analysing networks together and by 2002, Joe and I were able to penetrate just about any network connected to the Internet.

The correspondence between John, Joe, and I eventually came to a halt, but in February, 2007 I get a call from Joe telling me that we needed to talk in person. I met with him and he spilled his guts to me. He told me about all the unlawful and clandestine operations our government was involved with and also informed me of the level of corruption that has manifested itself in capitol hill.

He suggested that we find out what was going on by infiltrating the CIA's as well as the NSA's networks. I was really hesitant about it, but Joe told me that John was on board and pointed me to this website and a couple of others as a nudge of encouragement. My wife had recently passed and I really felt like I had nothing to lose, so the day after his proposal, and after countless hours of pouring over conspiracy theories, I accepted.

It was not because my moral standards were as high as Joe's, but more that my wife's death had take a tremendous toll on me, and I went into it for the thrill (it kept my mind preoccupied and off my wife). That was the last time I saw Joe face to face. I did not see John face to face throughout the entire operation, but we communicated through digital mediums.

Joe was the lead man. He orchestrated the entire event, and delegated tasks to people. I am a mathematics professor with a focus in cryptology, so Joe put me in charge of cryptography. I set up secure lines of communication and ran crypt-analysis on ciphered keys John sniffed off the networks. John was in charge of pen testing. If you are going to get caught, it will be during pen testing, since this the most intrusive part of the entire process.

It had been years since we had worked together as a team, and Joe and John were not up to date on the latest network and software security practices. We started on private networks and worked our way up to large corporations. By 2009 we were prepared to undertake the task at hand.
Joe kept things compartmentalised during the operation. We were given information on a need to know basis.

I do not know what methods Joe used to attack what networks, or even what files he was after, I was only given cipher-texts and expected to return the clear-text. John was in charge of anti-forensics and clean-up. But, I knew something went wrong when Joe called me. I immediately knew right off the bat that something was amiss, when I heard John in the background. That was our number one rule: no face-to-face contact. His first words, "It's way bigger than anybody could have ever dreamed.

Look at today's date. Listen to the audio-file I just sent you and then look at the time-stamp and at today's date again". I honestly thought I was busted. I thought it was a government agent trying to be funny. The date was February 15, and, I will not ever forget this, the audio file was last modified about an hour before I listened to it. The clip was of the end of a hockey game and as the commentator wrapped things up, he said something along the lines of "Thrasers: 7, Kings: 6. Thanks for listening to us on this Monday night".

At first I didn't understand. I didn't even have a clue as to what was going on until Joe sent me more of the archives which had every digital video, and audio, broadcasts for events that were supposed to happen tomorrow, but had not happened yet. Confirmation finally came that this was not just some sort of hoax database kept for fun, when we tuned into the Thrashers-Kings game and the final score was Thrashers: 7, Kings: 6.

After brainstorming and researching for days, they finally discovered the database was being written to via satellite. And from there things clicked into place. The NSA is able to see approximately 27 hours 42 minutes and 33 seconds into the future of the world.

This is done through a satellite. The satellite is able to take images of earth, a selected number of video and audio broadcasts (the majority of it is news) routed to the satellite by communications on the ground up, to roughly 27 hours before it happens.

As every second goes by it is slowly gaining the ability to see further into the future. I'm not going to expand any further here, but to say the satellite is able to do this because of a flaw in the way the Lorentz transformations were derived.

This is my insurance. They have already kill Joe and John, and in such a way that they made them out to be monsters to the public. They will not do this to me. This is the way it works. If they kill me, abduct me or anything, all evidence including the properly derived Lorrentz transformations are to be automatically posted here.

I must be present at my computer at 5:29 a.m. (my timezone) everyday in order to keep this posts from happening because 174 servers spanning the globe are set to ensure that happens automatically unless my password is entered. If the government tries to take this site out or this page, I have created a virus that will spread on a massive scale and automatically upload all the evidence I have against them to the victims PC, so at the very least thousands will know the truth but most likely millions.

My password cannot be cracked. It would take longer to crack an 8096 bit RSA encryption key, than my self-made encryption system. My initials are T.S.G. and I am a Mathematics professor. This shall ensure if they kill me and try to slander my name in the media, there will be at least a few people who know the truth I'm not telling everything here because then they would kill me. It's the only bargaining chip I have left.
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was it really that hard to make that rubbish readable?
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The UK series Paradox came to my mind reading this.
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Hey, the pin request thread got deleted!!! Are we pinned yet?
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I wonder why this super interesting, super important thread isn't pinned yet?
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S.G. grew up in Hollister! TOO COINCIDENTAL!

OP, feel free to tell us if we're close. The more people that know who you are, the safer you are (allegedly).


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San Benito High School, Hollister, California (CA)
1967-1971. Melissa Imbronone. 1974-1978. Carlos Bradley. 1997-Present. Carolyn Nichols. 1957-1961. Anne Sanchez. 1975-1979. Stephen Goularte. 1987-1991
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AC, 901410

I THOUGHT YOU GOT OFF THE GRID?
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Where are ya OP? I'm bored on a Friday night and this beats any movie. Moar Moar Moar..... dance popcorn
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Everything feels like it is a dream. I have not slept since 5:30 a.m. yesterday and I have spent my entire day in a state that feels like a continuous anxiety attack. I really want to answer questions because I think it is important everyone knows, but I must try and sleep because I just want this anxiety/depersonalisation feeling to stop. If I remember correctly, I estimated the satellite was put up on 6/19/86 but did not have the range into the future it has right now, this has built up slowly over time and continues to increase (but don't hold me to it, my memory is absent at the moment, but you will have an answer before 5:29 am tomorrow).
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Browse Satellites by Launch Date
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I wonder why this super interesting, super important thread isn't pinned yet?
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Wondering if it might be better off NOT pinned... just yet.

just sayin'


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I wonder why this super interesting, super important thread isn't pinned yet?



Wondering if it might be better off NOT pinned... just yet.

just sayin'


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Better of or not, the big question is why? If I had a conspiracy site and I had a tie in between two suicides/deaths, and a possible third man with advanced secrets, I'm pretty sure I'd want the world to know he was on my site. Just sayin.
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Boo, when you search USER ID: 876768. You see he's an old poster. We've unsurprisingly been duped.

I still gave ya five stars for the cool story! banana2

Of course you have seen the user ID before because it is a proxy server in Portugal. I am currently tunnelled to the proxy through 171 machines. The proxy is secretaccess.org.
I meant NASA and I also meant it when I said NSA as well. NASA's satellite collect the data and it is then stored in NSA's database.
I do not have time right at the moment to explain exactly how it works. Look up the twin paradox, Special theory of Relativity (not general) and the Lorrentz transformations. When the satellite reaches high speeds, in a sense it can "see" into the future--but only in the sense of EM waves--but its mass exists in the present which allows for government agencies a way to extract EM waves from the future.
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Apologies for doubting you, keep the info comin! hf
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This is the most interesting thing I've come across in a long while.

Just thought I'd say this: The OP got posted on 4chan (which is how I got here), and the thread was deleted within a minute. Hmmm...
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This is the most interesting thing I've come across in a long while.

Just thought I'd say this: The OP got posted on 4chan (which is how I got here), and the thread was deleted within a minute. Hmmm...
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I wouldn't go to 4 chan tunneled through 500 proxies.
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This thread actually make sense.

It's known that time doesn't work the same here at earth and i.e.: in a space shuttle going at amazing speeds around the earth.
It's quite interesting.


Now, a satellite tracking tracking info would be amazing.
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Better of or not, the big question is why? If I had a conspiracy site and I had a tie in between two suicides/deaths, and a possible third man with advanced secrets, I'm pretty sure I'd want the world to know he was on my site. Just sayin.
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Valid...
only time will tell if OP is the real deal though.
I think he is but I Have been wrong before
hf


Have you been watching both threads?
VERY interesting... MSM info is raising more questions than giving answers imo.


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