All I can say is, many of you are close !!!!

I work in the power industry; now that I think about it, it does appear that we are experiencing "out of the ordinary" grid disturbances. I won't say where but our local grid has been experiencing unexplained disturbances. OP's post about time of day indicates whichever side of the planet which is facing the Sun when this occurs will be the most affected.

LOL.

Build one earth size, please.

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

OP,

You are so FIRED!


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The earth is going to be hit by a large EMP.
From the sun.
Your hint about wiring.




What year are looking forward to?

10-11-12-13

If I wanted to be pedantic, I would say that electricity was discovered a little later than stone age.

But I'm not.

We're delayed until 1530.

This: [link to science.nasa.gov]

You get my gist...

A solar emp does make some sense. More so when you consider the theories of the solar allignment interaction with the center of the galaxy in 2012.

Not to mention the referenced article in this thread regarding unexpected and unexplained gamma rays, that we really have no idea about.

To think such an event could affect power world wide, it is also reasonable to think that it would cause explosions, fires, damage to the poles, etc. So long term affects would be horrible in major population centers.

I know the government talks budget, but grounding the shuttles just makes me think something is up and they are rerouting sources where they are more needed for this mystery event.

They would just not let decades of exploration rot like a pile of junk in a ghost town.

In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole.

What happened in 1859 was a combination of several events that occurred on the Sun at the same time. If they took place separately they would be somewhat notable events. But together they caused the most potent disruption of Earth's ionosphere in recorded history. "What they generated was the perfect space storm," says Bruce Tsurutani, a plasma physicist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

To begin to understand the perfect space storm you must first begin to understand the gargantuan numbers with which plasma physicists like Tsurutani work every day. At over 1.4 million kilometers (869,919 miles) wide, the Sun contains 99.86 percent of the mass of the entire solar system: well over a million Earths could fit inside its bulk. The total energy radiated by the Sun averages 383 billion trillion kilowatts, the equivalent of the energy generated by 100 billion tons of TNT exploding each and every second.

But the energy released by the Sun is not always constant. Close inspection of the Sun's surface reveals a turbulent tangle of magnetic fields and boiling arc-shaped clouds of hot plasma dappled by dark, roving sunspots.

Once in a while--exactly when scientists still cannot predict--an event occurs on the surface of the Sun that releases a tremendous amount of energy in the form of a solar flare or a coronal mass ejection, an explosive burst of very hot, electrified gases with a mass that can surpass that of Mount Everest.

October 23, 2003: Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history's most massive space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a century-and-a-half ago could happen again.

Right: An ultraviolet-wavelength picture of the sun taken by the ESA/NASA Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) on Oct. 23, 2003.

In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole.

What happened in 1859 was a combination of several events that occurred on the Sun at the same time. If they took place separately they would be somewhat notable events. But together they caused the most potent disruption of Earth's ionosphere in recorded history. "What they generated was the perfect space storm," says Bruce Tsurutani, a plasma physicist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.




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To begin to understand the perfect space storm you must first begin to understand the gargantuan numbers with which plasma physicists like Tsurutani work every day. At over 1.4 million kilometers (869,919 miles) wide, the Sun contains 99.86 percent of the mass of the entire solar system: well over a million Earths could fit inside its bulk. The total energy radiated by the Sun averages 383 billion trillion kilowatts, the equivalent of the energy generated by 100 billion tons of TNT exploding each and every second.
But the energy released by the Sun is not always constant. Close inspection of the Sun's surface reveals a turbulent tangle of magnetic fields and boiling arc-shaped clouds of hot plasma dappled by dark, roving sunspots.

Once in a while--exactly when scientists still cannot predict--an event occurs on the surface of the Sun that releases a tremendous amount of energy in the form of a solar flare or a coronal mass ejection, an explosive burst of very hot, electrified gases with a mass that can surpass that of Mount Everest.

Below: These Northern Lights appeared over Wisconsin on Oct. 22, 2003. During the superstorm of 1859, such lights appeared as far south as Cuba and Hawaii. Photo copyright Chris VenHaus.



What transpired during the dog days of summer 1859, across the 150 million-kilometer (about 93 million-mile) chasm of interplanetary space that separates the Sun and Earth, was this: on August 28, solar observers noted the development of numerous sunspots on the Sun's surface. Sunspots are localized regions of extremely intense magnetic fields. These magnetic fields intertwine, and the resulting magnetic energy can generate a sudden, violent release of energy called a solar flare. From August 28 to September 2 several solar flares were observed. Then, on September 1, the Sun released a mammoth solar flare. For almost an entire minute the amount of sunlight the Sun produced at the region of the flare actually doubled.

"With the flare came this explosive release of a massive cloud of magnetically charged plasma called a coronal mass ejection," said Tsurutani. "Not all coronal mass ejections head toward Earth. Those that do usually take three to four days to get here. This one took all of 17 hours and 40 minutes," he noted.

Not only was this coronal mass ejection an extremely fast mover, the magnetic fields contained within it were extremely intense and in direct opposition with Earth's magnetic fields. That meant the coronal mass ejection of September 1, 1859, overwhelmed Earth's own magnetic field, allowing charged particles to penetrate into Earth's upper atmosphere. The endgame to such a stellar event is one heck of a light show and more -- including potential disruptions of electrical grids and communications systems.

Back in 1859 the invention of the telegraph was only 15 years old and society's electrical framework was truly in its infancy. A 1994 solar storm caused major malfunctions to two communications satellites, disrupting newspaper, network television and nationwide radio service throughout Canada. Other storms have affected systems ranging from cell phone service and TV signals to GPS systems and electrical power grids. In March 1989, a solar storm much less intense than the perfect space storm of 1859 caused the Hydro-Quebec (Canada) power grid to go down for over nine hours, and the resulting damages and loss in revenue were estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

"The question I get asked most often is, 'Could a perfect space storm happen again, and when?'" added Tsurutani. "I tell people it could, and it could very well be even more intense than what transpired in 1859. As for when, we simply do not know," he said.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

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EMP Electro Magnetic Pulse or solar storm preparedness

Wow - Nice find.

Solar Superstorm

Scientists are beginning to understand a historic solar storm in 1859. One day, they say, it could happen again.
[link to science.nasa.gov]
October 23, 2003: Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history's most massive space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a century-and-a-half ago could happen again.


In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole.

What happened in 1859 was a combination of several events that occurred on the Sun at the same time. If they took place separately they would be somewhat notable events. But together they caused the most potent disruption of Earth's ionosphere in recorded history. "What they generated was the perfect space storm," says Bruce Tsurutani, a plasma physicist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.


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To begin to understand the perfect space storm you must first begin to understand the gargantuan numbers with which plasma physicists like Tsurutani work every day. At over 1.4 million kilometers (869,919 miles) wide, the Sun contains 99.86 percent of the mass of the entire solar system: well over a million Earths could fit inside its bulk. The total energy radiated by the Sun averages 383 billion trillion kilowatts, the equivalent of the energy generated by 100 billion tons of TNT exploding each and every second.
But the energy released by the Sun is not always constant. Close inspection of the Sun's surface reveals a turbulent tangle of magnetic fields and boiling arc-shaped clouds of hot plasma dappled by dark, roving sunspots.

Once in a while--exactly when scientists still cannot predict--an event occurs on the surface of the Sun that releases a tremendous amount of energy in the form of a solar flare or a coronal mass ejection, an explosive burst of very hot, electrified gases with a mass that can surpass that of Mount Everest.

Holy crap, 11 year cycle = end of 2012, beginning of 2013

Dude, you're saying that this large solar maximum is going to have an unknown interaction with recent gamma rays in our system.

That is it. I win a prize.

There's a thread pinned on here right now about permafrost melting. That's public knowledge. Why it's melting when the temps are below freezing is not understood.

Putting what you said about not expecting an ELE, is it safe to assume that damage to the Earth in general will not be so great as most of the damage will be to we humans specifically and our infrastructure?

There go the satellites, taking with them the modern world of telecommunications and electronic finance. Yeah, there'll be some short & long term chaos but I can think of worse things happening. 'sides, a New Dark Ages is probably not a bad thing.

Giddyup!

Forget the dates ! The event is what is important. The question was could I point to something, assumingly being discussed, which was already in the public.

[link to www.space.com]

Effects on Power Systems

1. What caused the failure of the Canadian power plant in March 1989?

On March 23, 1989, Hydro-Quebec had a 9 hour blackout affecting 9 million people. The cause was a geomagnetic induced current (GIC) due to a large geomagnetic storm.

GICs can put some transformers into what is known as half-cycle saturation, where the current in the windings can exceed the rated load for the device, and magnetic flux which is normally constrained to the transformer core can leak into adjacent structures. This can result in heating and damage to the device and adjacent structures. Note that the dramatic complete failure of a transformer does not occur very often. However, there is evidence that the lifetime of transformers in GIC susceptible regions is shorter than the lifetime of transformers in non-GIC susceptible regions. This suggests that GIC more commonly affects transformers by small amounts over time.

In addition to problems in the transformer itself, half-cycle saturation causes the transformer to draw a large exciting current which has a fundamental frequency component that lags the supply voltage by 90 degrees and leads to the transformer becoming an unexpected inductive load on the system. The large exciting current is also full of harmonics and the presence of these can lead to operation of capacitor-bank protective devices. Capacitor banks are an important device for maintaining voltage support, and the combination of a high inductive load and loss of capacitors makes voltage support difficult.

2. How could I demonstrate the effect of space weather on power systems?

For demonstration of induced currents in the electrical power grid, you could find a basic induction experiment, i.e. show that a voltage, and therefore a current, is induced in a conductor when exposed to a changing magnetic flux. The basic physics configuration one sees in textbooks is a simple loop-shaped wire through which one moves a bar magnet to induce a flow of current.--CB

Bingo. Because we're the ones fucking up Eden.

There can be a LOT of damage without an event which, of itself, would take out the planet. There is a domino effect to be remembered.

I know what the OP is talking about, it has nothing to do with an "event" from the sun as we know it, like a flare or pulse or anything like that. It has to do with a "timeline"

In short, part of what I know is this, certain features that our sun has displayed is at question. During the monitoring of our sun features in a specific way has manifested in observable events that have taken place many years ago and events that have yet to be.

The process of observing our sun in this specialized way can also be used to monitor other celestial events that have already occurred and those that have yet to occur.

Our sun is fine, however it is the culmination of the results from these observations that are at question.

The question is not one of what but of when.

N4

Right, our society is dependent upon our infrastructure and something that would cause damage only to this would still cause a breakdown of society.

Do you have another puzzle piece you can point to? Going down the rabbit hole leaves little in the way of reference as to what is possible and what is not. Once you throw aliens and zero-point energy into the mix, pretty much everything goes.

And i wouldn't put that much time into 'when'
Being called back for 1430
bye

It's those strange "spheres" that have been observed near the sun and in the ring of Saturn, right OP?

Original poster specifically cited Boeing as the contractor. They are. The fact he/ mentioned that leads me to believe there is truth to his story. I do not think he/she is some kid in his room looking for a historic chain.

The description of the VTC capability is correct also. They well may be discussing Sun originated EMP. I am sure NASA is looking at every angle and possible source of disruption given our vulnerability and reliance on technology. The poster has me thinking. Now IRT the post that asked why he is posting so little. I think it stems from the fact he signed a non-disclosure agreement and could go t jail for discussing specifics. He can discuss general items that are in the public domain as long as the poster does not get specific and maintains OPSEC.
So please 888 I believe they are discussing this and would like as much info as you can provide.

Okay, got it. Not a matter of dates. And you mention what is "real".

Is it possible that this is/has already happened and the affect are just now being studied, while the results of the event are still manifesting.

In this case the natural evolution of our sun being a medium yellow star should be?

Red Giant, and this is no good.