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If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?

 
Bobby Joe Long
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If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Just wondered what would happen should this likely war scenario happen?
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
no,, but lube would help.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
no,, but lube would help.
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typical toilet humor. wonder why i bother
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
you know you wanted it.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
no,, but lube would help.

typical toilet humor. wonder why i bother
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Greece could try and stop Russia, the same way a goat could try and stop a crocodile.

Is your question supposed to be a joke?
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uruguay will have go phuket!
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great thread title- and ddon't try to pretend
you didn't intend for humor
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
sorry my american ignorance,but why would russia want to invade turkey?
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Turkey is part of NATO. Under the charter, all states that are part of the alliance would be required to help protect against the aggressor. Greece is part of the Alliance.

I don't think that their dislike of each other would necessarily prevent them from aiding Turkey.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Turkey is part of NATO. Under the charter, all states that are part of the alliance would be required to help protect against the aggressor. Greece is part of the Alliance.

I don't think that their dislike of each other would necessarily prevent them from aiding Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 779754

I know the Turkey/Greece beef goes back a long way but the wzay I see it Turkey is an ally of the USA = enemy of Russia by proxy.

This is where I think it could BEGIN.

With the Armenia thing Obama may not be able to count on Turkey but at least he can count on fried chicken lol.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Just like to add everyone thinks iran/china n korea/ the instigator or EVENT. not so i see it as Russia the big bad enemy and a false flag involving an ally of the US.

Now being the middle east APART from Israel who does the US have? Answer: Turkey!

Mark my words. The proximity to Iran & Russia makes sense.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Turkey is part of NATO. Under the charter, all states that are part of the alliance would be required to help protect against the aggressor. Greece is part of the Alliance.

I don't think that their dislike of each other would necessarily prevent them from aiding Turkey.

I know the Turkey/Greece beef goes back a long way but the wzay I see it Turkey is an ally of the USA = enemy of Russia by proxy.

This is where I think it could BEGIN.

With the Armenia thing Obama may not be able to count on Turkey but at least he can count on fried chicken lol.
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Turkey has a pretty huge military and are considered a regional power. In fact they have the second largest military behind the United States out of the NATO alliance. They are also heavily equipped with US military hardware and have access to top tier US weapons systems on the same level as the UK, SK, Israel, etc.

If Russia tried to invade Turkey, it would be a pretty big fuckin deal. Furthermore, Turkeys borders are well established in contrast to states like Russia and Georgia. Although Armenia has made some claims to "historical territory" there are no active breakaway regions.

Anyway, I suspect that Turkey would be able to hold off the Russian military, at least temporarily, in the event of a conflict. The Turks are a pissy bunch with fond memories of the Ottoman Empires past power. They would not take kindly to a Russian invasion, you can bet that they would have every able body protecting the country against a Russian invasion, and that would likely provide enough time for NATO troops to mobilize.


Good war gaming though OP... interesting thoughts..
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
It is not worth the effort for Russia to invade Turkey, only to see how Greece reacts to it.


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Countries on the verge of collapse do not have much weight to throw around.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Check this out: [link to www.world-maps.co.uk]

The Georgia region is keenly wanted by the Russians when all hell breaks loose. Now with Turkey on the borders of Iraq AND Iran AND Syria the US can use bases to bomb Iran / syria and keep Iraq under control from the air (Iraq will egt 100 times worse than now) Not to mention the fact that ukraine will cause problems for Russia I feel.

Everyone feels Israel this israel that and while they may be behind a lot of the scenes it will be Russia who makes the first OFFICIAL move (probably because of a cia/mossad flase flag in russia blamed on Turkey)
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
It is not worth the effort for Russia to invade Turkey, only to see how Greece reacts to it.


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Countries on the verge of collapse do not have much weight to throw around.
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They may be in the worst debt but their armies can still operate
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Against small Georgia, yes, but against a country with some genuinely solid martial traditions, numerous military, and lots of NATO weapons, I seriously doubt it.


Turkey would also likely resume its support to the North Caucasian separatists, which it permanently ended in 1997.


A so-called "successful" Russia is in significantly worse condition than a so-called "collapsing" U.S.A.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Turkey is part of NATO. Under the charter, all states that are part of the alliance would be required to help protect against the aggressor. Greece is part of the Alliance.

I don't think that their dislike of each other would necessarily prevent them from aiding Turkey.

I know the Turkey/Greece beef goes back a long way but the wzay I see it Turkey is an ally of the USA = enemy of Russia by proxy.

This is where I think it could BEGIN.

With the Armenia thing Obama may not be able to count on Turkey but at least he can count on fried chicken lol.



Turkey has a pretty huge military and are considered a regional power. In fact they have the second largest military behind the United States out of the NATO alliance. They are also heavily equipped with US military hardware and have access to top tier US weapons systems on the same level as the UK, SK, Israel, etc.

If Russia tried to invade Turkey, it would be a pretty big fuckin deal. Furthermore, Turkeys borders are well established in contrast to states like Russia and Georgia. Although Armenia has made some claims to "historical territory" there are no active breakaway regions.

Anyway, I suspect that Turkey would be able to hold off the Russian military, at least temporarily, in the event of a conflict. The Turks are a pissy bunch with fond memories of the Ottoman Empires past power. They would not take kindly to a Russian invasion, you can bet that they would have every able body protecting the country against a Russian invasion, and that would likely provide enough time for NATO troops to mobilize.


Good war gaming though OP... interesting thoughts..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 779754

This is what Im saying. Supposedly the NATO alliance thing would mean that any invasion of Turkey would mean NATO coming down hard on the perpetrators. But the US needs support I feel to take down the huge power of Russia/China and it all comes down to startegical region.

China is out of the way and lets be honest have never really been associated with Terrorism.

With Turkey having a large muslim population, a false flag carried out in russia by alleged turks would mean russia could take the route that the us did ala afghanistan.

But would they though, it would take something the scale of 9/11 to see the russians seething enough to take this sort of action.

Could lead to a muslim genocide by the russians in their territories. This in turn would turn the the whole of the worlds muslims against the russians. Surely something the US wouldnt feel bad about.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Against small Georgia, yes, but against a country with some genuinely solid martial traditions, numerous military, and lots of NATO weapons, I seriously doubt it.


Turkey would also likely resume its support to the North Caucasian separatists, which it permanently ended in 1997.


A so-called "successful" Russia is in significantly worse condition than a so-called "collapsing" U.S.A.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747709

Hi, thanks for your comments, yes Russia in worst state than our military for sure but the US would not be involved from the start (at least not directly) . Im saying i feel this would be the precursor to WW3, not just a Russia/Turkey/Georgia war.

Could you explain what this means: "Turkey would also likely resume its support to the North Caucasian separatists, which it permanently ended in 1997."
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Russia invading Turkey, or getting involved in a war with it, would be perhaps the stupidest thing for Russia to do.


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Besides, Russia has very limited options to invade it, by land, sea, and air. It is not like Armenians will be of much help either.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Russia invading Turkey, or getting involved in a war with it, would be perhaps the stupidest thing for Russia to do.


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Besides, Russia has very limited options to invade it, by land, sea, and air. It is not like Armenians will be of much help either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747709

So lets saying IF a terrorist attack happened in a busy Russian city and the Russian intel believed the attackers were a muslim cell based in Turkey, woulkd russia play everything on intelligence and use their agencies to deal with the matter?

Because if 5000 people died or whatever Im sure the russian people would be crying out for revenge.

And the russian agencies ARE clever, they would know if it had american/israeli input. What would/could they do.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Cant edit my post so to add, would the russians believe in an eye for an eye and resort to spy vs spy?

To simply reprimand the suspects wouldnt be enough I feel for a large-scale terrost attack (false flag)
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Where exactly is Turkey's rear? Do countries have rears?
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
I don't know...

Do you think it could happen all of a Sudan???

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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
I don't know...

Do you think it could happen all of a Sudan???

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 Quoting: A-Nonymous Hero 909434

Really don't see how Sudan fits int othe equation, it's nowhere near that region!

Isn't sudan where the darfur crisis happens?

Anyway in response to the OP: In short yes. Not just Greece though. Greece and Turkey have history sure, but then who doesn't. Hell we had a war with the limeys, but now they are seen as our closest ally.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
If Russia invaded turkey the United States would be required to help and Russia would be fucking smacked down. Russia would be fucking trounced out of Turkey with extreme prejudice!
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Russia doesn't invade people unless they are fucking with Russians.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
The Turkish army is bigger than the entire Russian army, much of which must remain spread across Russia defending many borderzones. And no doubt the Turkish army is better equipped and motivated too.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Only if they're trying to get Poland in there.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
The Turkish army is bigger than the entire Russian army, much of which must remain spread across Russia defending many borderzones. And no doubt the Turkish army is better equipped and motivated too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518

Yes thats right, of course, Russia has 13000 Nuclear warheads 1rof1 but Turkey is much better equipped I forgot 1rof1
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lol five stars.
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Re: If Russia invaded turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Greece could try and stop Russia, the same way a goat could try and stop a crocodile.

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Xerxes and Darious was thinking the same...

greece was fighting the muslim invasion for 500 years..

( ofcourse usa was not existed back then and european nations

was more of a joke than nations..

even muslims was more civilised than europeans back then

because they had taste the greek civilization from alexander

the great)

and anyway greece have no reason to try to stop russia

greece know her enemies, and russia of today (orthodox), is

not one of them

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