A Hypothetical Debate Between Early Christians.....

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Today's modern "Christians" believe that they have cornered the market on truth because they believe what the "winning" side says is the truth.

In reality, there has always been opposition to the claims made by that "universal" church.


Honey...your problem is that you have confused those who mix paganism and a belief in Yahushua, calling themselves "christians" with those who keep Torah, AND have the testimony of Yahushua. It is the latter who is the TRUE believer, and follower of Yahushua and YHVH.

Irenaus was a "church father" of that organization who killed all the true followers (Natsarim) of Yahushua, and burned all their books and scrolls. He no more speaks for the truth than an atheist, which I might add, is pretty much what Elaine Pagels is, except she worships the g.o.d. of this world, Satan, who IS responsible for all the death and evil seen in the world today. He IS "the g.o.d. of THIS world", but not for much longer!

Great thread.

This thread shows a typical argument between Constantine's henchmen and the meditative gnostics.

Constantine's henchmen had the express duty of confusing the sacred path and scriptures so no one would ever be able again to see the truth unless they got it fresh from meditation.

It was imperative the the dark forces stopped the march of gnosticism as it had just gotten too big and too popular. If more enlightened people came along, the very basis of satan's kingdom on Earth would have been threatened.

First these collected all the parchments, then they picked the ones they liked, then they ave them a new interpretation was centered around satanic ritual of eating flesh and drinking blood. then they threatened everyone who didn't like their nonsense with eternal damnation.

Why is it that Christians cannot see through this obvious ruse and just go back to worshiping God as light and love and wisdom. It's so simple and rewarding.

They put the Bible ahead of meditation. That is their main problem. And that is putting a work of man above the Holy Spirit.

The Gnostic texts always make it clear that "Christ" is you(in the sense of your higher self)not a historical figure.
Good post FC, surprised you haven't been threatened with "eternal damnation" yet.

hi Full Circle i hope all is well i watched some lectures of dr elaine Pagels that were available online. she is very smart and very passionate! aah the search for truth continues ; ) remember that thing we talked about. sometimes it a takes a few days to process, or even a week. it is absolutely fascinating!
i don't like this flag thing at all. it makes feel very uneasy.

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