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I´m presently attending a Seventh Day Baptist Church, Any advice???

 
She Wolf
04/21/2005 02:48 AM
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I´m presently attending a Seventh Day Baptist Church, Any advice???
This seems to be a very genuine and fun loving group of people. They honor the Sabbath wich I am still questioning, but I also donīt want to go on a day that was modeled after the Pagan Sun god. I donīt know much about Baptists per se, and was wondering if anyone can tell me about them. Also I do understand Baptists to be highly conservative Christians, but this very small church that Iīm attending seems to leave much leeway for the Holy Spirit to work in the minds of the members there. In other words they study the Bible but pretty much leave itīs interpretation to the Holy Spirit in each individual believer. One other thing that I like is that they encourage questions and open discussion in their Sabbath School classes.

My only draw back so far is that unfortunately this church is two and a half hours away from me, and with gas prices in California, well you get the picture. The other thing is that they donīt seem to take a stand much on anything, it is almost as though the are too liberal. This surprised me, as I have always heard that Baptist churches were very conservative!

Any thoughts?
Servant
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Hello She Wolf,
I must confess that I have never heard of a Seventh Day Baptst Church before, nevertheless, you must follow your inner urge! Church must always be incidental to your faith and not the focus of it. The fellowship you seek should be with the Father and the Son, when this is the focus, you will automatically gravitate to and have fellowship with those who also have this fellowship. Remember Christ said this - His brethren were those who did the will of His Father in heaven? In this way He was indicating what would create true fellowship amongst us. We may well follow and have fellowship with a church, congregation or denomination but at the end of the day still not have fellowship with the Father and the Son.

On the subject of which day to worship, this is very emotive to many. Although those who claim one day over another will cite the scriptures over and over, you will never find a reference where God Himself puts the commandment into the framework of a week! He wasnīt placing one day as more important than another but rather providing a gift in the form of a one day of rest in a cycle of seven days where we are to work and provide for ourselves for six days and on the seventh we rest. I know that there will be multitudes who will try and take me to task over this and they are welcome to their opinion but as yet, no one has been able to prove to me by scripture that God was referring to a particular day, eg. Saturday!

I hope this helps!
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath.
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Hello She Wolf...

Iīm curious... Why did you initially leave the SDA church? I have studied ALL major denominations, and I can honestly say that the SDA church has (by far) the most accurate and solid grasp of scripture. It is the one that is the most COMPLETE in returning to the original 1st century Christian faith. The one once delivered unto our fathers.

BTW, I know that you will be inundated with "Christians" trying to give reasons ranging from A to Z NOT to keep Godīs Holy 7th day Sabbath, NONE of which is scriptural. They will come up with a dozen or more scriptures that they THINK makes their point, but in actuality, it is their lack of diligent study and understanding that is responsible for their ignorance, twisting of scripture, and improper context.

Remember... God said that His Sabbath would be the sign between Him and His people. Godīs people will even be keeping His Sabbath in the new earth. Read Isaiah.

Iīm sure that you already know all this.

At any rate, are these Baptists teaching the commandments and also prophecy? The bible says that Gods end-times people will "keep the commandments of God, and the testimony of Jesus".

Do you want to know what the "testimony of Jesus is"?

Look at Revelation 19:10. It contains the definition of "tesimony of Jesus".

It says "For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy".
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath.
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Wow... Seravant was even quicker than I thought.

He wants you to believe that God didnīt Hallow and Bless the seventh day, and tell us to REMEMBER it, in His fourth commandment.

The commandments either stand or fall togther. Jesus said:

"He who teaches men to break the least of these commandments will be called least by those in heaven. He who DOES them, and TEACHES them, will be called great in the kindom of heaven."


Heaven and earth will pass away, but...
Not one jot or tittle of ANY of Gods commandmentas will fail, until ALL things be fulfilled.
Lester
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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You might take your Bible and gather your family with you and ask Jesus to Bless your assembly and come into your home; and then take turns reading Scripture or answering questions your children have.

We have been doing HomeChurch every sunday morning for about a year. We live pretty remote and close together; but we all get a lot out of our assembly. The Holy Spirit will reveal much in the Scriptures that maybe until then you did not know, see, or remember.

One of our children asked why Jesus taught in Parables. I remembered HE addressed that and found HE answered Very Plainly in Matt 13:10-17. But I had never really seen what HE said in Verse 12 before; and it amazed me!

HE says right there that Born-Again Christians will have their Knowledge (Of-HIM) increased; while those not Born-Again will have their knowledge taken away.

This was late Feb when I was witnessing about how many were Falling Away. Verse 12 explained that to me.

You have no need to travel anywhere! We used to get together with 2 other families and do a HomeChurch years ago. That was nice; this is better for us.

Where 2 or more gather In HIS Name.
Servant
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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(He wants you to believe that God didnīt Hallow and Bless the seventh day, and tell us to REMEMBER it, in His fourth commandment.)

Typical response!

First this is not what I said, because God certainly did bless the seventh day - after having worked six days - but not the seventh day of the week!

Second, show me by the commandment alone exactly where the framework of a week as we have come to understand it is involved! Seven days do indeed make a week but the commandment does not refer to a week it refers only to the cycle of work six days and rest one day - not raising of one particular day over another.

And no, I will not be posting reams of scriptural quotations, I donīt have to, thatīs your job if you wish to prove your belief! As for me, I donīt need my faith proved, therefore I donīt need to defend it!
She Wolf nli
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Wow! A big thank you to all who responded as this has really been troubling me.

Servant, itīs funny you should bring up this argument. My husband challenged me on this, and after breathing a quick and silent prayer to God for help (as I still consider myself the student and am not 100% convinced of this doctrin) He brought to my mind the story of the Manna for the Children of Israel. It only fell on a certain day, and that day was preparation day or what we call Friday. They could only gather the Sabbathīs portion on this day for none would fall on the Sabbath for them to gather. Also there is the scripture of the man caught gathering sticks on the Sabbath day, and when the people who caught him breaking the Sabbath brought him to Moses and the priests, they prayed and asked God what they should do with him. Godīs answer was to kill him! Harsh? Certainly to our way of thinking, we see this as a man providing heat for his household to keep warm, but I tend to think that God saw something else. He saw this manīs heart and his stubborness. My point being, if eveyone of the Israelites were allowed to just keep one day out of seven, how does the Manna and the story of this man put to death fit in?

For me, it is all about the Sabbath being changed to a Pagan day in honor of a Pagan god. I am still in turmoil as to what should and shouldnīt be done on the Sabbath. Iīm caught between making the day a burden by being too legalistic and honoring God by keeping it holy. What can I say, Heīs still working on me:)
She Wolf nli
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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To Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath:

Where did I say I was an SDA? Have we talked before? In answer to your question I have other issues with this denomination that are too lengthy to go into right now.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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A song by "Pink Floyd" comes to mind

Itīs called "RUN"
OP
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Lester, this is very good advice, unfortunately my family wants nothing to do with my spiritual leading and your suggestion would be met with growns and complaints of protest. I wish that their father would step up to the role as spiritual leader. My oldest daughterīs opinion on God and religion is that she really doesnīt want to be bothered with it. When I offer to help her to understand, she says that she isnīt interested. My youngest daughter is interested but wants to learn on her own and my son wants nothing to do with it either, though he will come to church with me if I ask, and seems to enjoy the social aspect of it.

This is all my fault for not ībringing up my children in the way they should go.ī I was so busy dealing with my own īdemonsī of past religion that before I knew it, it was too late to interest young teens who have so much else on their minds. I pray for them all the time and always invite them to church as well as share things with them that are happening in these last days as I hear or read about them.
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AC 5:03 Interesting, care to expound on why?

Thanks for responding:)
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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you worship the devil.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Hello She Wolf,

Sorry I have been away and I will soon be calling it a night!

The matter of the Sabbath has been an issue almost since the command was given. Consider this. When God gave the command, the week was already established and hence it was natural that man fitted the command to the pattern that man understood. It then became a man made issue as to the keeping or breaking of the commandment and relating it to a certain day of the week. The consequences attached to breaking the commandment also became manmade, man must die but there is also truth in this understanding! At this point let me stop and ask you a question. Can anyone, including God, command that you love them? My answer to this is NO! And so the whole concept of Godīs commandments shift from laws that MUST be obeyed to council that will lead you to a desired outcome! Now why would God council you to keep the Sabbath or else? Simple, look around you, what do you see? Stress, heart attacks, strokes and all sorts of illness related to the high pressure of just living. In nature this doesnīt happen! Even in farming it is understood that the land needs a break, this is even biblical! God loves us with an everlasting love, He only wants the best for us, never lose sight of this. Anything that God provides for us is out of love including this so called commandment! We need to understand that to ignore this command will ultimately lead to our demise but not because God wills it, rather because we havenīt heeded Godly council and so we must face the consequences just as a parent tells a child - donīt play with matches or play on the road or else - etc! God will never do anything to purposefully harm us physically or spirtually because He loves us and any spirit that would try and convince you otherwise is trying to separate you from the love of your God!

Again I hope this helps!
Servant
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Sorry She Wolf, that last post was from me!
impetigo
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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For what itīs worth...

I was raised in an evangelical, SUNday observing, dallas theological seminary trained pastor, church.

As a child and teen, I remember reading the verses about the sabbath, and couldnīt reconcile the explanation of the resurrection with the day of worship when Godīs number 7 appeared everywhere in the Bible. So, I said to myself...these others are better trained in the scriptures, so who am I to question these men.

Around 2001, something happen prophetically and it seemed to lead me away from the mainstream dogma into what I perceive to be the TRUTH. I cannot find an evangelical church that meets on Saturday, so I donīt go. I chose to obey God over man and will honestly say to Him, I did forsake the assembling of myself with other Christians, but in my Heart, I knew your sabbath was Saturday, the day the world wants you to go out and shop, do erands and work.

I am far from being Holy, but I believe God is quite simple, especially in naming His day and it is man that wishes to complicate things.
Servant
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Hello Impetigo,

I almost totally agree with your belief -

(I am far from being Holy, but I believe God is quite simple, especially in naming His day and it is man that wishes to complicate things.)

Except - can you show me where God named His day in the commandment?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Get out of that church. Realize that the Kingdom of Heaven is in you. You can reach the 7th Day right here.Your mind will be healed right now:

The restoring of sight to Godīs people has begun. You can be
raised from the spiritually blind right here and right now. No
joke! The religion of God is just a religion to keep you from getting
mind controlled by anyone who creates false religions. The yoke is
totally easy. You just keep your mind religion free. No crazy rituals or
traditions of men are required.

Sin was the name of the ancient pagan moon god at the time of
Cain and represents false religion. God told Cain if he didnīt
follow God then Sin was at the door. The wages of Sin (false
religion) are spiritual death away from the ways of God. The life
of Jesus is Sinless (false religion free). Jesus is the example and
if you follow the ways of Jesus then you are saved from Sin
(false religion) and you have eternal spiritual life with God. Think
of Sin as not following Godīs laws. The 7 Holy Days are Godīs
laws that were to be kept forever and how many churches
follow them or have even heard of them? Any? Have you? Sin
has basically wiped out Godīs religion from the face of the Earth.
Godīs church suffers from an ancient blindness as a result of the
Sin god. The spiritual second coming of Christ is what restores sight to
the church.
The 7 Holy Days of God are being restored in the minds of men
and
setting them free from the deceptions of Sin which is false
religion.

THESE ARE THE 7 DAYS

1. Passover- This is where you accept Jesus as the Christ and
the way to the truth of God. Jesus is the sacrificial Lamb so that
you could be saved from the deception of Sin (false manmade
religions).

2. Feast of Unleavened Bread - A time to remove the lies of Sin
from your lives. Sin being the name of the first false god and
false religion that stems from Satan and Cain and continued
with Nimrod and Esau and is what you call Mystery Babylon.
This may bother some but after you research their roots the
whore of religion. Includes:
Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Freemasonry, Roman Catholicism
and its daughters which practice traditions of men at Easter and
Christmas and any other religion that doesnīt practice the 7 Holy
Days of God.
Esau Jewry which is the body of antichrist Talmud Babylonian Jews
(they do not believe Jesus is the Christ) that control the
banks, Israel, major media and the US government are just the
remnants of
the antichrist Pharisees that have deceived the whole world.
What a mess they have caused. Jesus was right. Their father is
the devil John 8:44.

3. Pentecost - Now that you have cleared your mind of the
deceptions of all false Sin religions you have a spiritual marriage
celebration to the Church of Jesus Christ. On this third Day you
are resurrected. You have rose from the spiritually dead.

4. Feast of Trumpets - You are now married and risen so "blow
some trumpets" and have a celebration.

5. Day of Atonement- A time to reflect on how you are now "at
one" with the true religion of God and saved from false religion Sin if
you repent.

6. Feast of Tabernacles - A time to celebrate but to live in "small
huts" which means be humble. Even though you are now free
from the deceptions of Mystery Babylon Sin false religions, it
was only because of Jesus that you have been delivered from
your Sins(false religions). Your freedom is a gift from God and
Jesus paid the price for you.

7. The Last Great Day - A celebration of the second coming of
Christ in your life. You have completed the journey back to the
truth of Godīs religion. False religion controls you no more.

You have just completed the 7 Days of God in your mind.
Remember this 7th Day and keep it Holy.

The weekly Sabbath - a weekly reminder on the 7th day of the
week to remind you of how you have spiritually completed the 7
Holy Days of God. You have to do no more work. Your mind is at
ease. Mankind forgets easy so God gave us these Holy Days and
the Sabbath as Godīs master system to keep us false religion
free. Jesus practiced these Days. His followers should too. The
yoke is easy. Just remain false religion free and love God and
one another. Do not squabble amongst yourselves as to how you
celebrate these Holy Days of God. Just make
sure you understand their spiritual meanings and start
celebrating them instead of manmade Nimrod ones like
Christmas, Easter, Valentineīs Day, etc. I am sure God wants
Godīs people to follow his Holy Days instead of Nimrodīs holidays. If
you believe Nimrod is god then follow Nimrod. If you believe God is
God then follow God.
Just by reading the above you are saved from Sin if you repent
from false religion and start following Godīs Law. That is the
tough part. Repenting means actually celebrating Godīs Holy
Days instead of Nimrodīs holidays. Now how many of you will
actually do it?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Once you reach the 7th Day in your mind then your mind is at rest. The first 6 Days are work steps that get you to the mind rest 7th Day spot. Keep this 7th Day understanding Holy in your mind.
impetigo
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Hi Servant,


At the age of 5-6, I knew the catholic church was in error. How did I know this? God promises to send the Spirit of Truth to believers.

I alway knew who the "beast" mentioned in Revelation was so I came to my knowelege through the back door. Revelation states that the beast will change times (calendar) and laws. I assume these would be Godīs laws since they are mentioned in the Bible. After careful study, I realized through the council of trent, they changed Godīs day of rest from Saturday to Sunday based on their claim of church authority.

7 is everywhere in the Bible, he made it easy if you really want to find the Truth.

Also, lets just say, I refuse to recognize the RCCīs authority and protest it by sitting Sundayīs out of church.
Servant
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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My response has nothing to do with RCC or any other denomination whether Christian or Jewish! Simple observe Godīs council regarding the Sabbath - Six days work and one day rest! Anything more is of man!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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"Simple observe Godīs council regarding the Sabbath - Six days work and one day rest! Anything more is of man!ī

Six Days spiritual work. Seventh Day spiritual rest with God.

That is why that one story of Jesus showing the Pharisees they were ridiculous for practicing thier tradition of no physical work on the Sabbath is in the Bible. Is it not work to get out of bed? Are you to not get out of bed on the Sabbath? Jesus wants you to think spiritually and not physically.
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She wolf I would recommend a church that feeds your spirit in the knowledge of grace and truth. And Not in the letter of law. Divisive arguements over sabbath days are all the letter of the law. Grace and truth in the Lord Jesus Christ is focusing on Him and what He did, not in what we can accomplish to find favor with Him.
Anonymous Coward
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Thanks again everyone for your responses:)

Actually, We will be celebrating Passover this Sabbath. As far as the rest of the Holy days, Iīm not sure if they celebrate them or not. I have also been struggling with Christmas, Easter etc. I have decided that God looks at our hearts and when I celebrate these holidays, I do so with Him in mind and not any Pagan God. So that is pretty much where I stand on this untill he shows me otherwise.

For now and for whatever reason God has lead me to this church and so that is where I go wherever he leads me:)
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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SDA is a CULT!
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romans 14; freedom in Jesus the Messiah.

1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4Who art thou that judgest another manīs servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lordīs.

9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

13Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brotherīs way.

14I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

15But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

16Let not then your good be evil spoken of:

17For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

18For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.

19Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

20For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

21It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

22Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

23And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
cornelius ( from holland)
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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well, she wulf
i can only say:
do what ever your hart is telling you..

and gas prices? i have to pay 1,29 euro a liter
so you have it eazy i think...

wanna email? [email protected]
shanetyrone
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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The reason why the day is given no name except shabbos is because none of the other days are named either. There is 1st day[aka Sunday], 2nd day, 3rd day etc etc, but no day of the week has a name except the 7th day, Shabbos[ aka sabbath].
The practice of naming other days, as we do, is actually sinful. Monday invokes the Moon God, Tuesday is For a Scandinavian God, Wednesday is Odinīs Day, and Thursday is Thorīs Day, followed by Friday, which is Freyaīs day[ a Norweigian Goddess] and then the 7th day is aka Saturday, which many say refers to Satan, which brings us to the day most people honor, Sunday

Which
the OP already noted is named for the Sun God.
The Bible strictly commands that we never invoke the names of any of the other elohim. Yet we do it constantly, as a matter of everyday life--not just the days of the week, but the names of the planets, the months of the year, corporations and their products, even the words for church and "G-d" are pagan references.
Even the word " Bible" is derived from Byblos, which is yet another pagan reference.
But your continued insistence that there is some loophole available in Yawehīs not naming the days of the week is completely false, it isnīt even a vaguely defensible argument.
Shabbos begins at what we call dusk on Friday til Dusk on Saturday. The entire system of reckoning time that way is five thousand seven hundred and sixty some years old, and Jews have been honoring that same seventh day the entire time. So yes, we do know which of the seven days to honor, and there is no loophole to excuse defiling shabbos.
As another poster pointed out, it is one of the decalogue, or ten commandments, and it is also referenced as the sign of Yahwehīs people, in many places in Tanach.
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The reason why the day is given no name except shabbos is because none of the other days are named either. There is 1st day[aka Sunday], 2nd day, 3rd day etc etc, but no day of the week has a name except the 7th day, Shabbos[ aka sabbath].
The practice of naming other days, as we do, is actually sinful. Monday invokes the Moon God, Tuesday is For a Scandinavian God, Wednesday is Odinīs Day, and Thursday is Thorīs Day, followed by Friday, which is Freyaīs day[ a Norweigian Goddess] and then the 7th day is aka Saturday, which many say refers to Satan, which brings us to the day most people honor, Sunday

Which
the OP already noted is named for the Sun God.
The Bible strictly commands that we never invoke the names of any of the other elohim. Yet we do it constantly, as a matter of everyday life--not just the days of the week, but the names of the planets, the months of the year, corporations and their products, even the words for church and "G-d" are pagan references.
Even the word " Bible" is derived from Byblos, which is yet another pagan reference.
But your continued insistence that there is some loophole available in Yawehīs not naming the days of the week is completely false, it isnīt even a vaguely defensible argument.
Shabbos begins at what we call dusk on Friday til Dusk on Saturday. The entire system of reckoning time that way is five thousand seven hundred and sixty some years old, and Jews have been honoring that same seventh day the entire time. So yes, we do know which of the seven days to honor, and there is no loophole to excuse defiling shabbos.
As another poster pointed out, it is one of the decalogue, or ten commandments, and it is also referenced as the sign of Yahwehīs people, in many places in Tanach.
shanetyrone
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The reason why the day is given no name except shabbos is because none of the other days are named either. There is 1st day[aka Sunday], 2nd day, 3rd day etc etc, but no day of the week has a name except the 7th day, Shabbos[ aka sabbath].
The practice of naming other days, as we do, is actually sinful. Monday invokes the Moon God, Tuesday is For a Scandinavian God, Wednesday is Odinīs Day, and Thursday is Thorīs Day, followed by Friday, which is Freyaīs day[ a Norweigian Goddess] and then the 7th day is aka Saturday, which many say refers to Satan, which brings us to the day most people honor, Sunday

Which
the OP already noted is named for the Sun God.
The Bible strictly commands that we never invoke the names of any of the other elohim. Yet we do it constantly, as a matter of everyday life--not just the days of the week, but the names of the planets, the months of the year, corporations and their products, even the words for church and "G-d" are pagan references.
Even the word " Bible" is derived from Byblos, which is yet another pagan reference.
But your continued insistence that there is some loophole available in Yawehīs not naming the days of the week is completely false, it isnīt even a vaguely defensible argument.
Shabbos begins at what we call dusk on Friday til Dusk on Saturday. The entire system of reckoning time that way is five thousand seven hundred and sixty some years old, and Jews have been honoring that same seventh day the entire time. So yes, we do know which of the seven days to honor, and there is no loophole to excuse defiling shabbos.
As another poster pointed out, it is one of the decalogue, or ten commandments, and it is also referenced as the sign of Yahwehīs people, in many places in Tanach.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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The reason why the day is given no name except shabbos is because none of the other days are named either. There is 1st day[aka Sunday], 2nd day, 3rd day etc etc, but no day of the week has a name except the 7th day, Shabbos[ aka sabbath].
The practice of naming other days, as we do, is actually sinful. Monday invokes the Moon God, Tuesday is For a Scandinavian God, Wednesday is Odinīs Day, and Thursday is Thorīs Day, followed by Friday, which is Freyaīs day[ a Norweigian Goddess] and then the 7th day is aka Saturday, which many say refers to Satan, which brings us to the day most people honor, Sunday

Which
the OP already noted is named for the Sun God.
The Bible strictly commands that we never invoke the names of any of the other elohim. Yet we do it constantly, as a matter of everyday life--not just the days of the week, but the names of the planets, the months of the year, corporations and their products, even the words for church and "G-d" are pagan references.
Even the word " Bible" is derived from Byblos, which is yet another pagan reference.
But your continued insistence that there is some loophole available in Yawehīs not naming the days of the week is completely false, it isnīt even a vaguely defensible argument.
Shabbos begins at what we call dusk on Friday til Dusk on Saturday. The entire system of reckoning time that way is five thousand seven hundred and sixty some years old, and Jews have been honoring that same seventh day the entire time. So yes, we do know which of the seven days to honor, and there is no loophole to excuse defiling shabbos.
As another poster pointed out, it is one of the decalogue, or ten commandments, and it is also referenced as the sign of Yahwehīs people, in many places in Tanach.
shanetyrone
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Re: I´m presently attending a Seventh Day Baptist Church, Any advice???
The reason why the day is given no name except shabbos is because none of the other days are named either. There is 1st day[aka Sunday], 2nd day, 3rd day etc etc, but no day of the week has a name except the 7th day, Shabbos[ aka sabbath].
The practice of naming other days, as we do, is actually sinful. Monday invokes the Moon God, Tuesday is For a Scandinavian God, Wednesday is Odinīs Day, and Thursday is Thorīs Day, followed by Friday, which is Freyaīs day[ a Norweigian Goddess] and then the 7th day is aka Saturday, which many say refers to Satan, which brings us to the day most people honor, Sunday

Which
the OP already noted is named for the Sun God.
The Bible strictly commands that we never invoke the names of any of the other elohim. Yet we do it constantly, as a matter of everyday life--not just the days of the week, but the names of the planets, the months of the year, corporations and their products, even the words for church and "G-d" are pagan references.
Even the word " Bible" is derived from Byblos, which is yet another pagan reference.
But your continued insistence that there is some loophole available in Yawehīs not naming the days of the week is completely false, it isnīt even a vaguely defensible argument.
Shabbos begins at what we call dusk on Friday til Dusk on Saturday. The entire system of reckoning time that way is five thousand seven hundred and sixty some years old, and Jews have been honoring that same seventh day the entire time. So yes, we do know which of the seven days to honor, and there is no loophole to excuse defiling shabbos.
As another poster pointed out, it is one of the decalogue, or ten commandments, and it is also referenced as the sign of Yahwehīs people, in many places in Tanach.





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