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MSG Is Being Sprayed On Fruits, Veggies, Nuts, Grains And Seeds As They Are Growing...Even Those Used In Baby Food

 
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In the 1970s, reluctant food processors "voluntarily" took processed free glutamic acid (MSG) out of baby food. Today it's back, in fertilizers called "Omega Protein Refined/Hydrolyzed Fish Emulsion" and "Steam Hydrolyzed Feather Meal," both of which contain hydrolyzed proteins; and in a product called AuxiGro WP Plant Metabolic Primer (AuxiGro) produced by Emerald BioAgriculture (formerly Auxein Corporation), which contains both hydrolyzed protein(s) and "monosodium glutamate." AuxiGro is being sprayed on some of the vegetables we and our children will eat, into the air we and our children must breath, and onto the ground from which it can move into drinking water. Head lettuce, leaf lettuce, tomatoes, potatoes, and peanuts were among the first crops targeted. On September 12, 2000, the Auxein Corporation Web site gave the following information:

Crops registered include: Celery; Fresh Market Cucumbers; Edible Navy and Pinto Beans; Grapes; Bulb Onions; Bell, Green and Jalapeno Peppers; Iceberg Head Lettuce; Romaine and Butter Leaf Lettuce; Peanuts; Potatoes; Snap Beans; Strawberries; Processing Tomatoes; Fresh Tomatoes; and Watermelons.
Today, there is no crop that we know of that has not been approved for treatment with MSG by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

Even in California -- the only state where there are any restrictions on the use of AuxiGro -- AuxiGro has been approved for use on a number of crops, and Emerald BioAgriculture continues to push for more. Field tests in California have been -- and may continue to be -- conducted on a variety of crops, and those AuxiGro treated crops may be sold in the open market without revealing that they have been treated. We can't tell you which crops those are because the CDPR has refused to send records of test trials (which are public information) to the Truth in Labeling Campaign.

As of June 13, 2002, AuxiGro was registered for use in California on tomatoes, almonds, apricots, cherries, plums, nectarines, peaches, prunes, grapes (including grapes to be used in wine), and onions. At that time, the California Department of Pesticide Regulation said they were not aware of any testing of AuxiGro for use on other crops. They also said that they did not have any proposals presently in house to register additional crops for AuxiGro. It would appear, however, that what the CDPR said was not true, for the CDPR subsequently announced that Emerald BioAgriculture had applied for permission to use AuxiGro on tomatoes (new use), and on melons (new crop) -- and, to the best of our knowledge, approval is always preceded by field testing.

On July 7, 2004, Emerald BioAgriculture requested approval of use of AuxiGro as a desiccant, disinfectant, fertilizer, fungicide, growth regulator - for increased yield and prevention of powdery mildew in various crops such as almonds, grapes, and melons. They also asked to add cole crops (including broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, collards, turnips, rutabaga, mustard, watercress, and kohlrabi) to the list of crops approved for AuxiGro use.

Approval for use on organic crops--in all states--has been requested.

What's wrong with using glutamic acid, an amino acid found in protein, as a spray on crops?

- In protein, amino acids are found in balanced combinations. Use of free glutamic acid as a spray on crops throws the amino acid balance out of kilter.
- It's not the glutamic acid found in protein that is being sprayed on crops, it's a synthetic product. The spray being used most widely is called AuxiGro. The "free glutamic acid" or so called "L-glutamic acid" component being used by its manufacturer, Emerald BioAgriculture, contains L-glutamic acid, an amino acid found in protein; but it also contains D-glutamic acid, pyroglutamic acid, and other chemicals referred to in the industry as "contaminants." The free glutamic acid used in AuxiGro is processed free glutamic acid. It is manufactured -- in chemical plants -- where certain selected genetically engineered bacteria -- feeding on a liquid nutrient medium -- excrete the free glutamic acid they synthesize outside of their cell membrane into the liquid medium in which they are grown. In contrast, the free glutamic acid found in protein, and the free glutamic acid involved in normal human body function, are unprocessed. free glutamic acid, and contain no contaminants.

- No one knows what the long term effects of spraying processed free glutamic acid on crops will be.

- That the processed free glutamic acid (MSG) will be absorbed into the body of the plant and into the fruit, nuts, seeds, or vegetable it produces seems undeniable. If it were not, the plant would not be stimulated to grow. Neither Emerald BioAgriculture or the EPA will address this issue.

- That there will be residue left on crops has not been disputed by Emerald BioAgriculture. But no study of either the amount of that residue, or the least amount of processed free glutamic acid needed to cause a reaction in an MSG-sensitive person, has ever been done. "It should wash off" doesn't mean it will wash off. "It seems unlikely that such a small amount would cause a reactions" doesn't mean that a small amount will not cause a reaction or have long term health effects.

- Free glutamic acid is known to be toxic to the nervous system. But the neurotoxic effects that processed free glutamic acid will have on animals that consume the plants on which it is sprayed - effects over and above any effects caused by external glutamic acid residue - have never been evaluated. Neither are there data on the effects that spraying processed free glutamic acid will have on drinking water.

- Consider, also, that children are most at risk from the effects of processed free glutamic acid. Their undeveloped blood-brain barriers leave them most at risk from exposure to processed free glutamic acid. It has been repeatedly demonstrated that infant animals fed processed free glutamic acid when young develop neuroendocrine problems such as gross obesity, stunted growth, and reproductive disorders later in life, and that they also develop learning disabilities. Emerald BioAgriculture did not address that particular safety issue in its application to the EPA.

- No one knows how little glutamic acid is needed to kill a single brain cell or to trigger an adverse reaction.

- Free glutamic acid is a neurotransmitter. It causes nerves to fire, carrying nerve impulses throughout the nervous system.

- Free glutamic acid is a neurotoxin. Under certain circumstances, free glutamic acid will cause nerves to fire repeatedly, until they die.

- Processed free glutamic acid kills brain cells. The free glutamic acid ingested by laboratory animals that caused brain lesions and neuroendocrine disorders was very often given in the form of the food ingredient "monosodium glutamate." "Monosodium glutamate" is the name of a particular food additive. Processed free glutamic acid is the reactive component in "monosodium glutamate," just as processed free glutamic acid is a reactive component in AuxiGro.

The glutamate industry research done in the 1970s that was submitted to the EPA by the Auxein Corporation, that pretended to find that processed free glutamic acid is "safe," has been long refuted by independent scientists. Indeed, at the present time, neuroscientists attempting to develop drugs to block the toxic effects of free glutamic acid are using processed free glutamic acid to selectively kill certain kinds of brain cells.

- Processed free glutamic acid causes neuroendocrine disorders in maturing animals that ingest processed free glutamic acid early in life.

- Processed free glutamic acid causes learning disorders in maturing animals that ingest processed free glutamic acid early in life.

- Processed free glutamic acid crosses the placental barrier and causes learning disabilities in animal offspring of dams that ingest it.

- Processed free glutamic acid has access to the brain through the blood-brain barrier, which is not impervious to the unregulated flow of processed free glutamic acid. The blood-brain barrier is immature at birth and may continue to develop up to puberty. In certain areas called the circumventricular organs, the blood barrier is never impervious to the unregulated flow of free glutamic acid. In addition, the blood-brain barrier is easily damaged by such events as high fever, a blow to the head, drug use, stroke, ingestion of processed free glutamic acid, and the normal process of aging.

- The National Institutes of Health recognize glutamic acid as being associated with addiction, stroke, epilepsy, degenerative disorders such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, and ALS, brain trauma, neuropathic pain, schizophrenia, anxiety, and depression.

- For years, free glutamic acid has been produced and used in food additives with names such as monosodium glutamate, sodium caseinate, and hydrolyzed soy protein. In some people, the processed free glutamic acid in food additives causes adverse reactions that include migraine headache, asthma, arrhythmia, tachycardia, nausea and vomiting, depression, and disorientation. The processed free glutamic acid in prescription and non-prescription drugs, food supplements, and cosmetics can also cause adverse reactions.

There are badly flawed industry-sponsored studies that have pretended to find that processed free glutamic acid does not cause adverse reactions. Inappropriate procedures used by the glutamate industry have included limiting subjects to people virtually guaranteed not to be sensitive to processed free glutamic acid, and/or using processed free glutamic acid or other similarly reactive substances in placebos as well as in test material. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has based its claim that processed free glutamic acid causes only mild and transitory reactions on those badly flawed industry-sponsored studies.

- Even the EPA admits that the food additive called "monosodium glutamate" causes adverse reactions.

- Even the FDA admits that the food additive "monosodium glutamate" contains processed free glutamic acid.
- Even the FDA admits that many consumers refer to all free glutamic acid as "MSG."

The EPA's approvals of use of MSG in agriculture are simple, straightforward, and in violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act

In reviewing the application of Auxein Corporation (now Emerald BioAgriculture) for use of processed free glutamic acid in a spray to be applied to crops as they grow, the EPA failed to conform to the requirements of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, which require, in part, that the EPA review any proposed action for validity, completeness, reliability, and relationship to human risk. The EPA also ignored Executive Order 13045 which requires government agencies to consider available information concerning the variability of the sensitivities of major identifiable subgroups of consumers, including infants and children. For example, Auxein Corporation sent the EPA 14 industry-sponsored toxicological studies from the literature, all done in the 1970's, but failed to mention hundreds of studies in the literature that refuted those 14 studies. Auxein Corporation even failed to send the EPA independent studies that appeared in the same book(s) as the industry-sponsored studies sent to the EPA. For example, although processed free glutamic acid causes brain lesions and neuroendocrine disorders in infant animals, this special hazard faced by infants was ignored by Auxein Corporation. It would appear that Auxein Corporation restricted its consideration of "available information" to information made available by the glutamate industry; and the EPA, even after having been sent abstracts from other "available information," has not challenged the Auxein Corporation applications. A more complete discussion of the shortcomings of the EPA approvals granted to Auxein Corporation has been submitted to the EPA.

Questions about the safety of spraying processed free glutamic acid on plants and into the environment have been raised by the Truth in Labeling Campaign and by individual consumers. The EPA has refused to address those concerns. The EPA, and, in particular, EPA spokesperson Dr. Janet Andersen, has failed to respond to allegations that in approving the spraying of processed free glutamic acid, the EPA failed to consider the reliability, validity, and completeness of the Auxein Corporation application or comply with Executive Order 13045 entitled Protection of Children from Environmental Health Risks and Safety Risks, except to say that the EPA had complied with executive order 13045. Moreover, while responding to letters that asked direct questions of the EPA, Andersen failed to respond to most, if not all, of the direct questions contained in those letters.

AuxiGro, the first MSG-laced plant "growth enhancer" to hit the market, has been approved for spraying on every crop we know of, with no restrictions on the amount of processed free glutamic acid (MSG) that may remain in and/or on crops when brought to market. Even before consumers had an inkling that crops were being sprayed, the Truth in Labeling Campaign received reports that MSG-sensitive consumers had gotten sick from head lettuce and potatoes.

Federal Register notices chronicling the application and approval of processed free glutamic acid are available on the Web via GPO Access, the Federal Register, through: < [link to www.gpoaccess.gov] Application for approval of use of AuxiGro was made to the EPA in 1997. Testing of the product was also approved in that year, and many of the test crops sprayed with AuxiGro were brought to market without notifying consumers. Glutamic acid was granted an exemption from establishment of a tolerance limit in January, 1998. AuxiGro was also approved for use on a number of crops in January, 1998, and approved for use on other crops later. No announcement of these approvals was made in the Federal Register.

Due to a technical glitch in the system, the glutes came to need one more approval to make their California registrations work. The glutes were asking for AuxiGro to be approved for use as a fungicide in California, but the EPA had only approved AuxiGro for use as a pesticide produce or plant growth enhancer. And when application was made for this addition to their approvals, the application was brought to our attention; and the Truth in Labeling Campaign filed a formal protest to this approval of AuxiGro. < [link to truthinlabeling.org] Formal Objection of the Truth in Labeling Campaign was filed on August 16, 2001 with the EPA.

By law, formal objections filed in a timely manner must be responded to within six months. Also, by law (we were told) even though the Final Rule had not been promulgated, this additional use of AuxiGro would be considered approved unless and until the EPA determined that it should be otherwise. In July, 2004, we received a conference call from Dr. Andersen and a number of other EPA players, including an EPA lawyer -- a "courtesy call" telling us that our objections had been discounted and that the Final Rule allowing use of AuxiGro as a fungicide would be published shortly in the Federal Register.

What's wrong at the EPA?

Neither the EPA nor Janet Andersen, Ph.D., director of the Biopesticides and Pollution Prevention Division (BPPD), are stupid. Rather, all evidence would appear to suggest that the EPA, which is charged with protecting the health of Americans, says it is protecting the health of Americans, when in fact the EPA acts to protect the bottom line of big business. Don't think for a moment that MSG is the only toxin unleashed on the American public by the EPA. Let the words "methyl parathion" and "DDT" jog your memory.
The EPA, in granting the chemical referred to as "L-glutamic acid" an exemption from the requirement of a tolerance for residues of "L-glutamic acid" on all food commodities when applied/used in accordance with good agricultural practices (thereby allowing unrestricted amounts of processed free glutamic acid (MSG) residue to remain in and on any and all food crops that come under the EPA's jurisdiction) violated Section 408(c)(2)(A)(i), Section 408(c)(2)(ii), Section 408(c)(2)(B), and Section 408(b)(2)(D) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.

Neither "L-Glutamic Acid and Gamma Aminobutyric Acid; Exemptions from the Requirement of a Tolerance; Final Rule" (Federal Register June 21, 2001) nor "Glutamic Acid; Pesticide Tolerance Exemption; Final Rule" (Federal Register January 7, 1998), which preceded it, met the criteria established by law for granting exemptions from the restriction of a tolerance.
How did spokesperson Andersen excuse the fact that the EPA approved processed free glutamic acid for use in an EPA approved spray? First, said Andersen, the free glutamic acid used in the spray is naturally occurring, and it's 99.3 per cent pure pharmaceutical grade L-glutamic acid. Yet, in admitting that the free glutamic acid in AuxiGro is not 100 per cent pure L-glutamic acid, and that it is pharmaceutical grade, Andersen contradicted herself, and actually made the point that 1) if the free glutamic acid used in AuxiGro were truly natural, it wouldn't be "pharmaceutical grade;" and 2) if the free glutamic acid used in AuxiGro were truly natural it would be 100 per cent, not 99.3 per cent pure L-glutamic acid.

Andersen said something else very interesting. She said that the EPA is well aware of the fact that MSG causes adverse reactions. However, when Andersen used the term "MSG" she was referring to the one food ingredient called "monosodium glutamate," and not to the free glutamic acid in "monosodium glutamate" that causes adverse reactions. Failure to define terms, asAnderson did (and does) so handily, is both deceptive and misleading.

What Andersen did is very clever. What she said makes no sense at all. No one has ever claimed that the processed free glutamic acid in AuxiGro comes out of a box labeled "monosodium glutamate." So for her to say it doesn't, is meaningless. On the other hand, the claim has been made that the free glutamic acid in AuxiGro will cause the same brain lesions, neuroendocrine disorders, adverse reactions and other diverse disease conditions that are caused by the free glutamic acid in "monosodium glutamate" and the other food additives that contain processed free glutamic acid. That claim is true, but Andersen does not address it. How do you refute someone who ignores legitimate questions and spews out irrelevant statements as though they pertained to your legitimate questions? You don't. The EPA defense of its approval of use of processed free glutamic acid in plant "growth enhancers" and its registration of AuxiGro has two parts to it: 1) ignoring those who question EPA actions, and 2) making the irrelevant statement that AuxiGro does not contain MSG (monosodium glutamate).

Neither Andersen nor anyone else at the EPA ever addressed the criticism that approvals given by the EPA to allow the use of free glutamic acid and the product AuxiGro were inappropriate.
The EPA, which approved the used of processed free glutamic acid in plant "growth enhancers," made a grievous error. But instead of recognizing and remedying that error once it was pointed out to them, the EPA began a cover-up. That cover-up included use of ambiguous words and phrases, half-truths, and downright lies told to consumers. The cover-up continued (and continues still) with a variation of those ambiguous words and phrases, half-truths, and downright lies told to legislators who inquire about spraying MSG into the environment.

You might find the Emerald BioAgriculture sales literature interesting

Sales literature promoting AuxiGro was once found on their Web site, but is now long gone. While Federal Register notices included the fact that there is processed free glutamic acid (MSG) in AuxiGro, the sales literature from Auxein Corporation did not mention the fact that their product contains free glutamic acid until the Truth in Labeling Campaign began to broadcast that information. In November, 1999, Auxein added deceptive, misleading, and untrue statements in an elaboration of its Product Page, wherein they essentially make the untrue assertion that the glutamic acid used in AuxiGro is chemically and biologically identical to that found in plants and animals.

Sales literature did (on September 12, 2000), however, contain the following:

"PRECAUTIONARY STATEMENTS

HAZARDS TO HUMAN AND DOMESTIC ANIMALS ­ CAUTION"

If you think you might be reacting to AuxiGro sprayed on crops, you might want to try to (contact Emerald BioAgriculture (formerly Auxein Corporation) at the addresses that follow. (A friend recently told us that he tried to contact them by e-mail, but his e-mail was returned unopened.) By law, the company is required to forward reports of adverse reactions to the EPA. You might want to ask the EPA if Emerald BioAgriculture did so.
John L. Mclntyre, Ph.D.
President & CEO
Emerald BioAgriculture (formerly Auxein Corporation)
3125 Sovereign Drive, Ste. B
Lansing, MI 48911-4240
Phone (888) 828-9346
Fax (517) 882-7521
mailto:%20sales@auxein.com

(From time to time, their web page, [link to www.auxein.com] , can be accessed by password only.)
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Bump.

They are poisoning our food with additives, our water with fluoride and pharmaceuticals, and our air with chemtrails.

It is all about population reduction. Mowing down the useless eaters.

They will not prevail.
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OMG this is just too much.

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This is the only way out of this madness, people.

Gotta buy land, and learn to live off of it. Barter with your neighbors. Trade your carrots for their corn, etc.

Anything else is a slow death.
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This is what food becomes when you frow it so artificially it has little texture, flavor and color. -- you have to start adding flavor and appearance enhancers
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MSG
HEALTH HAZARD ALERT!!


MSG - Monosodium Glutamate - This toxin is in most mainstream foods! Read your labels!!!

SOME TOXINS ARE AVOIDABLE,
Just don't put them in your mouth! I have been telling my students and members this for years. In lesson two of the Herbology course my students are directed to read and list all the chemical ingredients in the foods and drinks they are using. Many of these are safe in small doses, but there are some that are so toxic I wouldn't feed them to my dog, yet millions of people consume them daily and suffer the ailment consequences never diagnosed by the mainstream allopaths. Of course not!

When I had written to the FDA about MSG years ago, they sent me a response that was unbelievable. They said they had thousands of reports of adverse reactions, however it represented only a small percentage of the U.S. population and they were obviously of a sensitive type! Thousands of complaints and nothing ever done about it? MSG is a drug and a neurotransmitter which stimulates the brain cell activity. MSG "tricks" the brain into thinking the food you are eating tastes good and you want more. Remember the advertising campaign for the chip company that used the slogan "I bet you can't eat just one". These were laced with MSG. The reaction of headaches, migraines, stomach upsets, diarrhea, irritable bowel syndrome, asthma, panic attacks, heart palpitations, mental confusion, mood swings, neurological disorder symptoms like Parkinson's, MS, ALS, Alzheimers and behavior disorders to name a few are not an allergic reaction, but a powerful drug reaction. This over stimulation of the brain cells actually kills the brain cells.

Years ago there was an article in Science News (don't have the issue number, but I am searching for it) that said that there was enough MSG in a packet of a well known brand of dried soup mix to kill a two year old child!

MSG in its pure form must be labeled. Food manufacturers are wise to this and have found loop holes to fool the public. It can be hidden by the words Sodium Caseinate or Calcium Caseinate, Autolyed Yeast or Yeast Extract, Hydrolyzed Protein, Natural Flavoring, Textured Protein, etc. For a list of all the other names it may be hidden under go here: [link to www.nomsg.com] Sources

You know a thought crossed my mind while I was writing this. You have all heard of the mad cow disease that is crossing over into humans. Well the short of it is that they say it is a 'Prion' disease. They are not sure it is caused by the Prions - proteins, but they are present and responsible for destroying the brain and turning it into swiss cheese. MSG crosses the brain barrier. There is not many things that do that. MSG could be used as a carrier or this may be a side effect from long term use. They put MSG in animal feed as well. Food for though... You can stop this by not putting this poison into your mouth! It is my opinion that many of the new (over 30 now) emerging diseases are caused by environmental toxins and chemicalized foods and poisoned waters. It is man's indiscriminate use of his technology and chemistry that has led this planet into crisis and people into terrible diseases.

Now if the fact that most items in the mainstream supermarkets contain large amounts of MSG isn't enough, the "beast" continues to force MSG into the
environment and the water supply. There has been an EPA approved new agricultural spray used as a "growth enhancer". This product is called Auxigro and contains 30% MSG!!! It is sprayed by airplane on crops. This will not only put residues on the crops but will contaminate the ground water as well. The EPA's action allows the amount of residue on fruits and vegetables to be unlimited. (Sec. 180.1187 Code of Federal Regulations)
[link to www.nomsg.com]

Here's what you can do.

#1 STOP EATING THE STUFF!

# 2 LOG ON TO:
[link to www.nomsg.com] and read and study about it. I encourage you to support this group with a membership too. You can call them for an information packet at 1-800-BEAT-MSG

# 3 AND MOST IMPORTANT!
Detox your body for MSG. To do this you can use our specially formulated homeopathic MSG Detox. This is the highest quality homeopathic formula and is actually still hand succussed for those of you up on your homeopathy. This is not available in health food stores.

# 4 - CALL THE COMPANIES
Most large companies supply a phone number on the can, bag or box to call in. Call in and leave a message to them telling them you want the MSG removed from the food. Back when I was a kid, Campbell Soup did not have MSG in it. Why is it in there now??? Plain potato chips usually don't have it, but all the flavored ones do. Just read your labels and you will be shocked at how much of this garbage is being fed to the American people!!! It is not necessary at all.

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and "round up", on GM crops. I get the name now. "Round up" Meh.
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Boy in the last ten or fifteen years, things have really changed in food production. I have always been interested in natural foods, organic agriculture, etc. since I was a teenager long ago. At the same time I felt that a lot of claims against the mainstream food industry were somewhat overblown, and that a middle of the road approach was best, especially in terms of eating as well and naturally as you could afford to within your budget.

It seems though that as the organic agriculture/local production movement grows in strength and popularity, the industrial factory produced agriculture is getting worse and worse, with the genetic modification of crops, the stranglehold of power that Monsanto has, the continuing degradation of the soil, the creepy new chemical pesticides and fertilizers. It really does seem to be going downhill and getting more sinister and dangerous.

Confinement farming of animals is getting more universal too, and slaughterhouse conditions have deteriorated, I'm convinced of that. The lines have sped up while the work force gets less skilled, a hellish combination for animals.

Today in 2010 it seems to be getting kind of critical to support organic farming, small farmers, local production, etc. Trouble is not everyone can afford to shop that way exclusively. I guess we have to make the best choices we can, and be as informed as we can.
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Thanks for putting up this thread.

I am one of those Glutamate Sensitives.
It is almost impossible to find anything to eat.
I may buy something today that is OK, and the next time I buy the same product at the same store it gives me a reaction.

The Organic growers are doing catch-up with the MSG on their crops. Last year most of their potatoes were OK.
This year none of them are. I am currently able to tolerate Potatoes from Wong's Produce, with only a mild reaction. Eagle Eye were the Worst of all.
One bag of High Country was good the next one bad.
I guess it depends on the particular grower, and you can't tell by reading the bag. The same goes for Tomorrow's Organics.

I have written to all of them.
All of them deny using these Glutamate Containing products.
I have to wonder if they know what they are using.

All commercial veggies are MSG'd. All the Organic veggies I have tries are also poisoned with MSG.

If that is not bad enough, you will also find that your meats are also poisoned. They use Citric Acid on some of it. (I get the same reaction to Citric ACid) It was approved in the fall of 2008, after which I could no longer eat beef. I'm not sure what they all use on chicken. I had been buying Murray Chicken and then they started using something that gave me problems.

Then recently there came on the market "Nature's Place" products. I bought some of their chicken and it went OK.
The next week I went back for more and had problems with it.

I contacted them and their Rep. called me. He said they did not use Citric Acid. They do however wash their chickens in Chlorine and there is a requirement that a certain amount of Chlorine remain on the carcass to pass FDA inspection.

I have been soaking the chicken in a Hydrogen Peroxide solution to neutralize the Chlorine. It does seem to be working.

Sanderson Farm also said they did not use Citric Acid, but did not volunteer what they did use. Their chicken has a bitter taste to it, as does Gold Kist. It well may be Chlorine. It is a high alkaline taste.

There is also a connection of MSG/Glutamate withe AUTISM.
There has been a 1500-6000% increase in the number of children with the Autism Spectrum disorders.
Do you think that might have something to do with the POISONS in our food?

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That is so disgusting and it makes me very angry. I've deliberately avoided MSG for decades, knowing its properties as an excito-toxin (I work in health care), aspartame even more so.

I'm afraid maybe the only solution is to grow our own. And before you say "I don't have the land," if you've got a bright window, you can grow lettuce easily. Last summer, for an investment of under $10, I grew lettuce in pots outside, 3 different kinds, planted in staggered plantings. We had so much lettuce in 3 pots, that's all, that we ate fresh salads every single day for months and were giving away bags of fresh lettuce to friends. In the end I let a few of the plants go to seed and now I have tons of lettuce seeds. It grows very fast, likes partial shade, especially when it's hot, and you don't have to do anything except water it. And I used no fertilizer or any kind of plant food, just seeds, dirt and water. I had romaines 18" tall. We didn't buy fresh salad fixings from early May until the end of September, saved piles of money. Everyone has house plants, just make some of them food plants too. It's a change in thinking, I know, but if agro is trying to poison us, what choice is there? I also grew tomatoes, green peppers, cukes, green beans, peas, herbs, carrots, leeks and beets - we ate very well, for free as far as veg goes, half in pots, half in a little (6 x 8') patch in the yard. It sounds like a lot of work, but it isn't at all. Lovely fresh green beans do very well in pots, so do leeks and chives and green onions. We had enough left at the end of the summer to turn into great soups and sauces which we froze to use over the winter.....and you know WHAT you are eating. I'm no farmer, just a regular person, but my hubbie and I are both into growing at least half our own food and we can do it easily. We're adding potatoes this year. It's something that can really be a family project too and it saves time (shopping), gas (shopping), and money (shopping). If you've never considered it, why not give it a try?
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Why do people believe this?

The powers that be eat this stuff too.
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Boy in the last ten or fifteen years, things have really changed in food production. I have always been interested in natural foods, organic agriculture, etc. since I was a teenager long ago. At the same time I felt that a lot of claims against the mainstream food industry were somewhat overblown, and that a middle of the road approach was best, especially in terms of eating as well and naturally as you could afford to within your budget.

It seems though that as the organic agriculture/local production movement grows in strength and popularity, the industrial factory produced agriculture is getting worse and worse, with the genetic modification of crops, the stranglehold of power that Monsanto has, the continuing degradation of the soil, the creepy new chemical pesticides and fertilizers. It really does seem to be going downhill and getting more sinister and dangerous.

Confinement farming of animals is getting more universal too, and slaughterhouse conditions have deteriorated, I'm convinced of that. The lines have sped up while the work force gets less skilled, a hellish combination for animals.

Today in 2010 it seems to be getting kind of critical to support organic farming, small farmers, local production, etc. Trouble is not everyone can afford to shop that way exclusively. I guess we have to make the best choices we can, and be as informed as we can.
 Quoting: mercury2

You are so right, Mercury. Animals raised in terrible conditions are not good to eat, they are stressed and sick and pumped full of hormones and antibiotics. For years now, I will only buy free range eggs, I don't care if they cost more. I guess we're very lucky where we live in southern BC, the demand for organic is so high that the prices are very reasonable, in some cases less for certain things. We found a place that sells organic grain-fed beef very reasonably, as well as wonderful free-range chickens that taste so so so so much better, you would never want to go back. We eat much less meat than we used to, but when we buy it, we buy quality, but we are very lucky to live in an area where free-range animals are raised, we have good local lamb, chicken, beef. I used to think it didn't matter, but you are right, in the last few years quality has deteriorated so much. Another reason to buy locally is to keep the family farmers and local greenhouses in business. It supports local communities and of course you don't have to pay for shipping from a thousand miles away. We have a big greenhouse down the hill from us, most of them are open to the general public and you can get amazing deals on beautiful produce...for far less money than, say, Safeway, and infinitely better quality. It's harder in some cities, I know, but it is worth doing the research. People might even be surprised what's available in their area once they start looking, it's so much easier to go to a big box store and get everything at once, but I love searching out great local suppliers, most of my friends do too, and we share those great finds amongst ourselves. For example, one store here sells free range organic roasting chickens for about $15 each. Well, that's way to expensive. But I found out that every Tuesday morning, they put those same lovely organic grain-fed chickens on sale for $6 a piece. So I get my chickens on Tuesday mornings.....and I am in a million+ city too.
hf
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Why do people believe this?

The powers that be eat this stuff too.
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Are you really that gullible to believe that TPTB eat the same food as we the serfs? They have never eaten the same food as us. Even going back hundreds of years they got the best most nutritious foods while the rest of the population got the scraps that were barely fit enough for farm animals to consume.

Make no mistake about it, TPTB have their own food stocks that are far superior to ours and that are not subjected to the same chemical/biological manipulation that our food is.
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Why do people believe this?

The powers that be eat this stuff too.
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You really believe that?
They don't eat the food we eat they even say so out loud.
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Why do people believe this?

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You really believe that?
They don't eat the food we eat they even say so out loud.
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I look at their rotten bodies and have a difficulty seeing that it does any good to them. I seem to eat better food :)
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Because the COINTELPRO Rense says so?

The meat is toxic. The eugenicist want you to think the veggies and nuts are toxic. That's all.
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Boy in the last ten or fifteen years, things have really changed in food production. I have always been interested in natural foods, organic agriculture, etc. since I was a teenager long ago. At the same time I felt that a lot of claims against the mainstream food industry were somewhat overblown, and that a middle of the road approach was best, especially in terms of eating as well and naturally as you could afford to within your budget.

It seems though that as the organic agriculture/local production movement grows in strength and popularity, the industrial factory produced agriculture is getting worse and worse, with the genetic modification of crops, the stranglehold of power that Monsanto has, the continuing degradation of the soil, the creepy new chemical pesticides and fertilizers. It really does seem to be going downhill and getting more sinister and dangerous.

Confinement farming of animals is getting more universal too, and slaughterhouse conditions have deteriorated, I'm convinced of that. The lines have sped up while the work force gets less skilled, a hellish combination for animals.

Today in 2010 it seems to be getting kind of critical to support organic farming, small farmers, local production, etc. Trouble is not everyone can afford to shop that way exclusively. I guess we have to make the best choices we can, and be as informed as we can.

You are so right, Mercury. Animals raised in terrible conditions are not good to eat, they are stressed and sick and pumped full of hormones and antibiotics. For years now, I will only buy free range eggs, I don't care if they cost more. I guess we're very lucky where we live in southern BC, the demand for organic is so high that the prices are very reasonable, in some cases less for certain things. We found a place that sells organic grain-fed beef very reasonably, as well as wonderful free-range chickens that taste so so so so much better, you would never want to go back. We eat much less meat than we used to, but when we buy it, we buy quality, but we are very lucky to live in an area where free-range animals are raised, we have good local lamb, chicken, beef. I used to think it didn't matter, but you are right, in the last few years quality has deteriorated so much. Another reason to buy locally is to keep the family farmers and local greenhouses in business. It supports local communities and of course you don't have to pay for shipping from a thousand miles away. We have a big greenhouse down the hill from us, most of them are open to the general public and you can get amazing deals on beautiful produce...for far less money than, say, Safeway, and infinitely better quality. It's harder in some cities, I know, but it is worth doing the research. People might even be surprised what's available in their area once they start looking, it's so much easier to go to a big box store and get everything at once, but I love searching out great local suppliers, most of my friends do too, and we share those great finds amongst ourselves. For example, one store here sells free range organic roasting chickens for about $15 each. Well, that's way to expensive. But I found out that every Tuesday morning, they put those same lovely organic grain-fed chickens on sale for $6 a piece. So I get my chickens on Tuesday mornings.....and I am in a million+ city too.
hf
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Does it seem to anyone else that maybe humanity should not be eatting animals and along with the paradim shift, things are happening to gently force awareness of these things?

Stop buying anything but organic, stop buying anything from the companies you find out are screwing us.... Stop being lazy.... Grow your own and swap with a neighborhood group that feels the same way....Compost. Become a vegetarian a little at a time. Stop eatting meet and eat only fish and dairy for instance.... Stop eatting so many frozen dinner with 750 mgs salt in each one.... Pop corn in a brown lunch bag in micro and put your own butter on it.
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Is it any wonder we've got the fastest rising health care issues???????

Gives new meaning to grow what you/we can ourselves. We've all got to make time in our lives and remember/learn how to grow our own food stuffs.
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Thanks for your great post OP.. nice one.. have pasted it into Word.. will read it later when I have time.. cheers..

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Is it any wonder we've got the fastest rising health care issues???????

Gives new meaning to grow what you/we can ourselves. We've all got to make time in our lives and remember/learn how to grow our own food stuffs.
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We've let them remain in control for far too long.
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Why do people believe this?

The powers that be eat this stuff too.
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WRONG!! TPTB eat organic, and buy locally, or internationally, depending on what's available, and MONEY IS NO OBJECT. They also have yearly or twice yearly chelation procedures, which detoxes the entire body.

Answer for the rest of us: Grow your own EVERYTHING, or barter with those who can, and be sure to take chelated minerals so your body can detox itself daily.
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I've seen numerous politicans smoking cigs, drinking diet soda and eating junk food.

Get real.
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I agree completely soup du jour.... People complain about salt in their food, but won't do anything about it. What happens when everyone stops buying their food???? They learn a hard lesson.... But more importantly, those same people learn how stupid and lazy they have been. It's pretty easy to grow food if you make a little effort. Watch your blood pressure drop if you give up salt for a couple of months.... But from fresh air markets. If you find out that a company is screwing people and continue to buy from them, well that is your problem.... Make a point of finding out who owns which companies. Take responsiblity for what you eat....
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I've seen numerous politicans smoking cigs, drinking diet soda and eating junk food.

Get real.
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So does that mean that since they don't give a flying f___ about thier health, it's ok for you too????

Stop falling asleep in front of the boob tube....
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Boy in the last ten or fifteen years, things have really changed in food production. I have always been interested in natural foods, organic agriculture, etc. since I was a teenager long ago. At the same time I felt that a lot of claims against the mainstream food industry were somewhat overblown, and that a middle of the road approach was best, especially in terms of eating as well and naturally as you could afford to within your budget.

It seems though that as the organic agriculture/local production movement grows in strength and popularity, the industrial factory produced agriculture is getting worse and worse, with the genetic modification of crops, the stranglehold of power that Monsanto has, the continuing degradation of the soil, the creepy new chemical pesticides and fertilizers. It really does seem to be going downhill and getting more sinister and dangerous.

Confinement farming of animals is getting more universal too, and slaughterhouse conditions have deteriorated, I'm convinced of that. The lines have sped up while the work force gets less skilled, a hellish combination for animals.

Today in 2010 it seems to be getting kind of critical to support organic farming, small farmers, local production, etc. Trouble is not everyone can afford to shop that way exclusively. I guess we have to make the best choices we can, and be as informed as we can.
 Quoting: mercury2


The regular American suburban housewife is still programmed by pop TV commercials and their girlfriend culture, is in a food culture still dominated by national processed food brands like Cheez Whiz, Kelloggs, Nabisco and Oscar Meyer.

These are the people who make up the statistics of diabetes, obesity, cardiovascular and cancer epidemics. It's also those people who are still buying regular Supermarket produce and don't really eat fresh raw veggies.

So they don't know any better. They wouldn't know how a real raw fresh naturally grown vegetable is supposed to taste. They overcook what veggies they do eat, and drown them in butter, cheese, etc.

Women who are more news-aware and independent thinkers are like the women on this site, and they are more likely to know how a real vegetable is supposed to taste.

So we are seeing a split in food cultures in America. One group of people are cluelessly buying the produce and processed food that gets worse and worse and they have no clue it's worsening. The other group is behind the exploding organic and natural food market growth.
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