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This thread will be devoted to the ideas presented by topics related to the "ALL I CAN SAY, IS THAT SOME OF YOU ARE VERY CLOSE" thread.


I will try and structure much of the information, dissecting out of the thread certain material that I and others deem irrelevant, and updating posts with summaries of pertinent information. That way we can see some of the connections without having to traipse through an entire thread. We can just jump to certain pages if we are curious about a certain phenom.

One thing I want everyone to try and do (when possible) is summarize briefly in laymen terms any highly educated input. If a certain person posts something but doesn't have time to summarize, maybe someone else can summarize with a question to the original poster, "RIGHT?" That way, others won't get drowned in 'over the head' theories or ideas.

PLEASE, if anyone has other suggestions, throw them out. I will try and structure the thread every now and then to keep everyone up to date (kinda like I did on the last one).

Good luck, and may the force be with you


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Please copy and paste some of the links and articles into this thread and we can start building some connections.
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You all may find this interesting; dated today...

Only the time of its meeting the solar system is out...

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Star on course to meet Solar system identified

Edited 15 March, 2010, 10:22

Movement of an orange dwarf star with a mass of about half that of the Sun will eventually bring it right to the solar system, stellar data analysis indicates.

Yahoo StumbleUpon Google Live Technorati del.icio.us Digg Reddit Mixx Propeller The Gliese 710 from the constellation Serpens Cauda is due to arrive in about 1.5 million years, and has an 86 per cent probability of passing through the Oort Cloud, says Vadim Bobylev at the Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in St. Petersburg.

“Of course we are not talking about one star ‘ramming’ into another. Such an event is almost impossible. But during a close encounter, a passing star’s gravity field may affect objects in the Solar system. For instance, it can cause a comet shower, which would reach the region of big planets. Some authors believe comet bombardments in Earth’s past to be results of such showers,” Bobylev commented for RT.


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He added that, “Considering the fact that the comet shower would reach big planets some 0.5 to 1 million years after the passing of GL 710, the effect of the passage would not be catastrophic, and will happen over a very long period.”

The prediction is based on analysis of data from the European Space Agency’s Hipparcos astrometric spacecraft, which measured velocities of almost 120,000 stars in the early 1990s, as well as some recent data.

Bobylev analyzed the measured movements of about 35,000 stars in our neighborhood in the time interval from 2 million years in the past to 2 million years in the future. It resulted in adding nine new stars to the list of those which experience close encounters with the Solar system – either in the past or in the future, he reports in a paper published on arXiv.org website.

GL 710 was already known to have a scheduled rendezvous with us. However, Bobylev’s analysis indicates a high chance of passing closer than expected. It even has one chance in 1,000 of approaching close enough to significantly affect objects within the Kuiper Belt, i.e. planets, moons and asteroids. This could be bad news for our descendants.

The Oort Cloud is a hypothetical cloud of comets on the solar system’s boundaries, stretching about one light year away from the sun.
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This thread will be devoted to the ideas presented by topics related to the "ALL I CAN SAY, IS THAT SOME OF YOU ARE VERY CLOSE" thread.
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Good luck dude. ;)

Nice thread name. Should keep it easy to find.
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Sickscent,

As soon as I am allowed, I'm giving you 5 stars just for the excellently written thread title! A+!
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Sickscent,

As soon as I am allowed, I'm giving you 5 stars just for the excellently written thread title! A+!
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Thanks guys. It will be nice not trashing that other thread. Can't believe it went nearly 90 pages with hardly any asshats...
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menow to show up in 5..4..3..2..
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Good luck dude. ;)

Nice thread name. Should keep it easy to find.
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Thanks.
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Glad we moved this over to a new thread. I hope DUMBBOY stays away...

At any rate, here's what I posted on page 84 of the thread, for discussion, but there was too much noise in subsequent pages. Here's a repost of mine:
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The "new" info as I see it is what may happen won't be a one-time event, or a series of singular events such as your CMEs.

Rather, the CME could become a trigger for a larger magnetic disturbance in the cloud (which presumably Earth is within) triggering a "rolling", or continuous EMP.

Even with a Faraday cage, you would have to know when these continuous EMPs would end, before retrieving/testing your gear. Ideas???
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Sickscent,

As soon as I am allowed, I'm giving you 5 stars just for the excellently written thread title! A+!
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I just gave this 5 as well. Could be the most important series of events in our collective lifetimes.
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2012 Nexus Event – Unknown Form of Energy comes our way:
[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]
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This "energy" and the way it was described by the OP in one of his last posts, was incredible. For he implied that the cloud of cosmic particles, which should not be here, which we are moving into, will amplify the energies from CME's! Made me think of this (video as well in source link below transcript)


The Mayan art actually has the shape of a pyramid. Before I got into the Mayan investigation, I was studying the Egyptians. Now I am just making analogies because both live in life cycles ruled by the same information. When we talk about Mayans, when we talk about Egyptians, we are not talking about a specific race. We are not talking about a specific group. We are talking about a big culture unification. The back of the (***) lands ….one of the portion snakes of the world. Actually, to tell you the truth, there’s two step snakes. The back of the rattle snake is a diamond shape. The diamond shape is in the information of the Mayan calendar. It talks about how we disintegrate, integrate, disintegrate, integrate, and how we go in the history of the different humanities. Many astronomical cycles according to the Mayans actually mark humanity. When the president of Bolivia came to Guatemala, our indigenous people made him the fifth song. The symbol of the fifth song is actually what we are doing through the Mayan unification preparing ourselves to welcome the great cycle that is coming known as the fifth song. Mayan declared themselves as the third humanity where the fourth humanity is just about to end to get into the fifth humanity. Every humanity is actually represented in the Mayan civilization as a song.

The book of the Mormons says that the people who build the pyramids of Egypt are the same people who build the temples of the Mayan civilization. They are the same thing. So the point is when I studied the Egyptians, actually I had to do some experiments because for me I cannot explain anything without the use of the concept of energies – concept we lost especially with the invention of the machines. Einstein said that before. Einstein said technology is going to go beyond humanity. We gave our power to the machines whereby depending so much on the machines we are actually becoming useless and useless. In such a way, we trust more a piece of metal than ourselves. That’s how we gave our power to the machines. These people in the whole history of the Mayans are how they were balanced in negative energy with the use of the temples, the use of the principles of the pyramids, the use of the crystals such as jade. Actually if you see jade with the use of microscope, they have molecular pyramidal structure. It does the same thing that multiplies the cosmic energy. But what happens is that (***) Carlos Castañeda, the pioneers of the new age information in Europe actually because we are talking about parallel worlds, gates through their dimension, gates into the magical world. Actually they said, the jump - the jump is the extra amount of energy you need to change dimension. As a matter of fact all of these has been are grouped by so called quantum physics . Actually I am not a scientist I do not need to prove anything. I am not a preacher I do not need to convince anyone. I am just sharing culture information but actually if anyone would like to have some evidence then we have evidence to prove all these. There is a scientific work being done to actually even prove how we can do the jump – change dimension even when we talk about the 2012 is known in the world as the quantum Jump. Its in the Bible. Revelation talks about all these things.

[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]
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Remember the story of The Photon Belt/Band.
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Methinks it's been moving towards us for some time. As it always does in cycles.

I also think the big to-do about G1.9+3.0 a couple of years ago is linked to this.
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Sickscent,

As soon as I am allowed, I'm giving you 5 stars just for the excellently written thread title! A+!

I just gave this 5 as well. Could be the most important series of events in our collective lifetimes.
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Thanks. I'll try and keep it relatively structured also. I think there will be some VERY interesting connections we'll find here if the other thread was any indication.

I'll start putting on my information and links when I get home tonight. At work now.
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2012 Nexus Event – Unknown Form of Energy comes our way:
[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]
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Nexus 2012 & AstralWalker
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Thanks for starting the new thread Sickscent, I didnt post on the original but followed it with great interest from the start.

I cant say I knew a great deal about the topics being discussed, but have thoroughly enjoyed the journey involved in broadening my understanding.
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Sickscent,

As soon as I am allowed, I'm giving you 5 stars just for the excellently written thread title! A+!


Thanks guys. It will be nice not trashing that other thread. Can't believe it went nearly 90 pages with hardly any asshats...
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yeah, they're making up for lost time on it now though...
Thanks for starting this one!


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Thread: WHAT IS THE UNIVERSE??? (Page 2)
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So what's the big deal with this whole thing? What did the op say?
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Glad we moved this over to a new thread. I hope DUMBBOY stays away...

At any rate, here's what I posted on page 84 of the thread, for discussion, but there was too much noise in subsequent pages. Here's a repost of mine:
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The "new" info as I see it is what may happen won't be a one-time event, or a series of singular events such as your CMEs.

Rather, the CME could become a trigger for a larger magnetic disturbance in the cloud (which presumably Earth is within) triggering a "rolling", or continuous EMP.

Even with a Faraday cage, you would have to know when these continuous EMPs would end, before retrieving/testing your gear. Ideas???
 Quoting: GlassPearls


Touch a high voltage bulb to your faraday cage and see if it lights up?

[link to www.bulbman.com]
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Sickscent,

As soon as I am allowed, I'm giving you 5 stars just for the excellently written thread title! A+!


Thanks guys. It will be nice not trashing that other thread. Can't believe it went nearly 90 pages with hardly any asshats...


yeah, they're making up for lost time on it now though...
Thanks for starting this one!


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Yeah, as soon as I saw that... sucks.
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We live in the physical universe of polarity. The basis of physicality is the constant oscillation of duality, where balance is perfection. But balance is a paradox because the only place for perfect balance to exist is singularity points reciding at the moment that the oscillation changes direction.
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The King is dead! Long live the King! :)

6c you are my hope to have the voice of Reason. twirl
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the NASA/IBEX press conference about the Ribbon gives a good view on what it is, how it's located etc.and offers good info about the heliosphere. Worth the watch, I thought




Knowledge of it will probably have progressed in the meantime, maybe others have recent info on it?

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"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play." - 'Wargames'

"This world is more like a mystery, trapped in a conundrum, spun by a paradox." - AC1118155
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Here's a summary of OP's comments (in bold) from
Thread: All I can say is, many of you are close !!!!
I took Sickscent's and added the rest of OP's statements, except for the part about the AC id from his iphone. I also deleted the redundancies from people's quotes:

HERE IS THE OPs RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE THREAD!!!!
I work for a NASA contractor and handle the video conferencing sessions between JSC and other facilities. Everybody always wants to see a link. Well, everything talked about in these vc's is top secret - so there's obviously not a link. I love my family and need my job so I'm not gonna tell you much that would endanger those either. I work for Boeing. All I can tell you is there is a LOT of interesting shit happening. The moon is NOT crashing - but it doesn't need to. There is a reason so many are sending birds up to watch the Sun - and it's not cause we just would like to know more about the Sun.

We'll start here and I'll respond how and when I can.

So is everything going to start coming apart at the seems now? And, are you referring to natural disasters, or imminent contact?

Sorry for the delay - had a meeting.
Natural occurances.

How many would you say are 'in the know'?
How is it you are able to keep it quiet?

This isn't about a "2012" senario. I haven't heard anybody acknowledge that timeline. It's easy to keep quiet, most people think NASA is hiding something anyway. In the know- It's hard to tell because how how many conferences take place between us, ESA, and others. Not every piece of the picture is being discussed at every conference either. Just what affects that agency or department.

seriously. why dont you just tell us WTF is going on with the sun already. Is it going to shit on us with a CME?? Are Aliens using it as a vehicle to enter our universe and come thru??? Is it burning out? are we going to freeze to death? WTF OP JUST SAY IT

Aliens, per se, have not been involved. The Sun IS involved.


invisible threads shall we say connected from the earth to the sun!
Like the kind of invisible threads that show up in digital pictures between earth and other planets?

Those are an artifact of how the data is being converted not threads.

Does NASA think the sun is going to become extremely active, more than usual? Are they afraid of damaging CME's?
Thanks in advance.

NASA has already acknowledged this. They came out late last year and revised downward what they had previously acknowledged. It isn't 'actually' turning out that way.

Does it have to do with Mars?

My group has only handled conferences regarding 'near earth' projects and interest. I haven't been privy to any info about Mars. But I haven't heard anything in the 'halls' like gets posted on here all the time - either.


i am sure it is about the solar pulse thing that would take out the techno grid.

The grid is a big concern.

It's obviously not about the end of the world in 2012 at least. Otherwise your job would be your last concern.

Nobody I have been involved with believes 'officially' the 2012 timeline.


Its not just the sun exhibiting different "behavior" several planets in our solar system now have significant magnetic fields that were practically non-existent before, and I think there are gravitational perturbations being measured that again were previously non-existent.

Like I said, many of you are very close to being right.


something to do with energy coming from the center of the galaxy.
sun will react to it in a paranormal way.


The Sun is already reacting to 'forces' we can't see.

super nova? so what happened in the 2012 movie could occur but not on that timeline?

Haven't heard it put in terms of a super nova. A lot can happen that would (is) bad which would be far from a super nova.

The Sun in turning to a Brown Dwarf !

No


Look, everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren't being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen - in some instances - and even less when.

Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it's hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other 'things' we may not see yet - or - may think we see but aren't sure of the mass or composition.

How many jobs have you got OP?

Why don't you just quit with this bullshit.

You're referring to my post from yesterday. Boeing has many contracts, military and civilian. As a VC tech, I am in on many subjects and our involvement in that vessel is one of them.
[link to science.nasa.gov]

So, this 'ribbon' of magnetism we are heading into, could it be the 'Wave' that has been mentioned before. The Wave is supposed to be an area of increased energy that the solar system is supposed to fly through. BUT, what if the actual Wave isn't increased 'energy', but this magnetism, and as our heliosphere and the various gravity fields of our system interact with the 'ribbon of magnetism' (NASA), it causes unkown energy exchanges that can be very dynamic.

Am I close OP?

Like I said, NASA isn't sure of everything it believes may be happening. Something is happening and many who have the ability to send birds up to look are also trying to figure out just what "is" real.

OP is not all that serious about the top secret stuff, they are just making observations, stuff is going on and nothing is certain, its all energy anyway. i am worried aout the eq's they may not be over,

We have been talking about EQ's because some of our US facilities are in areas which have the possibility of serious involvement. NASA and others do not yet understand the current trend in EQ's.


And, what do you mean 'figure out what "is" real? Do you mean what effects could be possible? Or is there something that they have recieved data on, but it doesn't quite make sense? So they are sending that new satellite up there to get 'better' measurements...

"real" We have to give a reason which things show up on certain data that gets out on the net.


Why are you proposing to tell us all this? If you really have TSC, aren't you endangering yourself talking about it?

Not if I don't state anything as fact that isn't public knowledge - even if the public doesn't realize that it's out there.

Actually, NASA like most govt agencies, leaks like a noodle strainer. There is VERY LITTLE which is actually an unknown secret... but the info gets put out in such small pieces and from such a wide array of sources - that's it's nearly impossible for someone to put all the pieces together and then state it as fact. Like I said, NSAS and others often - especially now - aren't sure what 'fact is.

As long as something is in what is termed "the public domain" - while it may be discussed in the realms of a TS subject oveall - doesn't make that piece of info - on it's own - secret.

I can't put the pieces together like I have heard them put together. That would be a violation.

I can say that while I am putting together some provision for my family... I'm not trying to survive an ELE.

this?
[link to www.newscientist.com]


This is something very important which we don't understand.

Is whatever happening going to impact the whole globe or only certain locations? Whatever happens weather earthquake, meteor
CME or whatever it is I don't care, I'm 36 yr old and I have been ready now for whatever happens. I am not afraid to die , but I would like to know because I have children that are not ready and are afraid of what might happen.


Potentially, the whole globe. But it depends on the time of day as to how badly certain areas might be affected. Don't worry your children with this stuff and I would discourage them from watching 2012 and other programs on TV these days. Maybe good info, but bad cause there isn't a darn thing we can do about it... not 2012 timeline, but some of what is being proposed about that timeline.

Have another meeting folks and then I'm outta here for the weekend. Will try to check in later tonight maybe.


Can you give us a list of what you are not trying to survive?


I am NOT trying to survive a moon crash - that one was funny. Not even an asteroid, becuase to many variables. I am learning how to adjust to a lack of electrons in house wiring for some time.


I've got a good question.
Is NASA concerned about a near certain event? Or are they more worried because some of these 'secrets' look like they are going to be exposed and their is nothing they can do about it?


Some of both but not why you might think. Everyone at NASA has a family somewhere. They're not a bunch of govt bought robots - they have feelings. They fear what can happen. But they have to pay their bills like all of us. They have to keep money coming into the budget. Many WANT to keep money coming hoping that they can figure out what is fact - and THEN they would LIKE to open up about it..... that's what I hear in the halls - NOT in official conferences. But - it is a very vicious circle folks.

EMP?


Electro MAgnetic Pulse - that's a big concern and now I really have to go.
Bye


Could you point out a specific breadcrumb?


We're delayed until 1530.

This:

[link to science.nasa.gov]


Wow - Nice find.

There's a thread pinned on here right now about permafrost melting. That's public knowledge. Why it's melting when the temps are below freezing is not understood.

Holy crap, 11 year cycle = end of 2012, beginning of 2013

Dude, you're saying that this large solar maximum is going to have an unknown interaction with recent gamma rays in our system.

That is it. I win a prize.

Forget the dates! The event is what is important. The question was could I point to something, assumingly being discussed, which was already in the public.


Putting what you said about not expecting an ELE, is it safe to assume that damage to the Earth in general will not be so great as most of the damage will be to we humans specifically and our infrastructure?

There can be a LOT of damage without an event which, of itself, would take out the planet. There is a domino effect to be remembered.

I know what the OP is talking about, it has nothing to do with an "event" from the sun as we know it, like a flare or pulse or anything like that. It has to do with a "timeline"

In short, part of what I know is this, certain features that our sun has displayed is at question. During the monitoring of our sun features in a specific way has manifested in observable events that have taken place many years ago and events that have yet to be.

The process of observing our sun in this specialized way can also be used to monitor other celestial events that have already occurred and those that have yet to occur.

Our sun is fine, however it is the culmination of the results from these observations that are at question.

The question is not one of what but of when.

N4

And i wouldn't put that much time into 'when'
Being called back for 1430
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Q. Will we wake up one day and the Ele systems will be smoking, toast?

Q. Will it happen over time, system down here and there
over days, weeks?


Gotta love it - our tax dollars at work - a meeting to set up a meeting.

Again, this is out there. Days. There is a 'domino' effect because of how our electrical grid is designed. It has safeguards which actually take it down - in segments - automatically in order to keep from frying things... but the components of what those automatic systems are supposed to protect are not protected from EMP and/or huge static loads to ground. I'm not an EE so not sure what that means. So when the system trys to protect itself - it can cascade - quickly. But if certain parts of the system get damaged - again this is out there - then it can take years to replace them. Problem is, the companies who make this stuff don't have enough raw materials on hand - right now - to make them all. Some of them don't even have back up power sources.... they are 'commerical' suppliers ! Think about it. Really think about it.

OP,

Thanks for this thread. Can you be a bit more specific about the types of preparations that you are making for your family? How long are you planning food and water? What types of backup power sources are you considering? Is radiation in any form of concern?

Thanks!


you're welcome. I've actually said about as much as I can. For us, we are fortunate to have a small place between Houston and Dallas with a few acres. We have a well - hand well and wind mill. I have tools and can work with my hands. I have a few solar panels just to charge some batteries for small conveniences like small led lights at night. Forget much more than that. We have seeds for only a few basic veggies. Think about living in the late 1800's for a while and you'll be on my line of thinking. Is it enough or will it work - I don't know. How soon may it be needed? I don't know and I think anybody who says they do know is pulling our legs - UNTIL about 30-40 hours before it happens. Will an announcement be made? I don't know but I don't think so - too many variables and too much communication to be done with critical agencies to at least TRY to save some stuff. How fast am I working on this? I have been for a year and am nearly finished with what I have 'planned' to try to get together.

Hope this has been helpful.


Could be this has something to do with the obsession with oil supplies from the middle east and who will have long term power source the most.

I haven't heard anything like this but NASA is only involved with data acquisition and orbiting infrastructure.

OP as I understand it two things are occurring. First, something external is affecting our solar system, potentially starting up the sun's solar capacitor and secondly the sun is entering a solar cycle maximum, part of its natural cycle. These two factors could cause EMP type effects, especially when you consider that the earth's magnetosphere has been exhibiting "holes" or breaches in the shield.

A lot of this has been summarized by several scientists and researchers, some from the University of Colorado. That is publicly available information, however the first factor of an external influence affecting our solar system is not. But when you look at circumstantial evidence, like a ban on information on asteroids and objects entering earth's atmosphere and .gov agencies re-locating offices to higher elevations (CIA moving branches to Denver Colorado) one can get an overall "picture".

Have you seen any mitigation efforts by .gov agencies regarding older satellites that may be affecting by large solar radiation storms?

There IS public speculation out there about something which has a timeline and affects our solar system. But - NASA has not confirmed that they see it. Did I say that right ??? They also don't really know how it 'could' affect our system cause things 'could' happen which would change 'its' timeline - if it exists.

Old birds aren't saveable. Even shutting them down won't help.

The ban on near earth objects caught many by surprise... many.

I don't know anything about the CIA... and I don't want to either.


Look, everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren't being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen - in some instances - and even less when.

Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it's hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other 'things' we may not see yet - or - may think we see but aren't sure of the mass or composition.

Are you referring to P/2010 A2 ????

Like i said.

Is the anomaly affecting the space station?


This or maybe something like it:

[link to www.canberratimes.com.au]


Will admit I've not read all pages, but the first word that popped into my wee brain was GRBs ~

Gamma Ray Bursts. EMP


and THEN they would LIKE to open up about it-quote.

hey come on?

what have you been smoking?

There isn't as much conspiracy at NASA - about this stuff anyway - as everyone seems to want. There IS a total shit load of it when it comes to getting money funding.

So OP it's kinda like a cue ball break. You never know where the balls are gonna go as they all hit each other and the variables are too infinite. Correct?


IF - the balls turn out to be ones we aren't tracking. Nuf said about that one.

I wish that is all you would say.

"I work for ______ and you are all screwed." How many times has this been posted?


I work for Boeing. I don't know yet if we are all screwed and NASA doesn't either. Guess I've brought all I can bring to you on this one. There is a LOT on here lately about the Sun. I just wanted to help sift through some of the other BS by saying - rightly so!

I can say this, you'd be amazed how many people at NASA know about GLP and pop over here from time to time. I've been watching this site for only a few weeks cause a friend told me about it one day.

Will be seeing you on here.


Here she is:

[link to apod.nasa.gov]

How could that interact with a salar flare event?


Think of the distance this photo comes from. All that stuff behind the artifact isn't necessarily 'dust'


This isn't about something hitting earth, it's about the potential of something hitting the sun and what affect that might have on the GRB that will already be high from the solar maximum?


Right - it's not about something hitting the Earth.

OP, you said that you wouldn't put much time onto this, meaning that whatever this is about, it is not supposed to take a long time to happen. But what are we talking about here? Months? A few years?


Look - I don't know. Not years. Again, this is out there - look at how long the Sun was quiet passed when everyone thought it would be quiet. Like I said, NASA doesn't always know what it thinks it knows. Look at the 'very public' amount of data being made available by SOHO and other systems which are still up every day on the net. That stuff would not be available if NASA really didn't want the public to have 'the ability to know' what is occuring. It's obvious that something is occuring - and more frequently. That's public info - not necessarily knowledge - but it's info that is there for the seeing and reading.

All I can say.


OP. When you are in on these conference calls, would you say the people are nervous or sounding urgent.

Excellent question.

Recently - urgent. But remember these are scientists and in peer level meetings, especially when cross national, they tend to be more reserved - not always but they try to be.


Thanks OP. Would you say they are high ranking NASA officials?
Did you notice any other agencies involved?

Department heads yes but not the 'officials' you would see on TV. Those meetings are above me and closed to all but a few. We set up the link and monitor remotely but only for data transfer.

OP, are you going to be able to answer more questions?

For now, I think I have said all I can say and have done what I set out to do which is point you in a direction which is really the thing to monitor closely space related. Lord knows there is plenty more which bears watching in the international world. I'm looking for bits and pieces and a heads up about Israel and Iran as hard as I am trying to keep a close watch on my own info right now.

OP has it anything to do with the ripples on the sun or the filaments that keep popping up?


YES !



Perhaps this is why OP states that what they are viewing they are not sure if it is 'real' or not. They are viewing a black dwarf (cold dwarf) that messes up all their theories.

And the cold dwarf is interacting with the sun. I bet if we look at the filaments and where they started on the sun, we could triangulate to the vicinity in space where the cold dwarf' is. It is pulling the magnetics out from the sun, creating the filaments. That might be why we are seeing so many filaments at this time also... also, the biggest filament ever seen by a gigantic magnitude.


Am I close OP?


Yes. There doesn't have to be anything that close to cause the internal reactions needed to form a filament. That's what I hear. But something is.... like has been said on here many times.

This is the key.
I cannot say who I am but you need to put two things together. An excitable sun + this.

Voyager Makes an Interstellar Discovery

December 23, 2009: The solar system is passing through an interstellar cloud that physics says should not exist.

My forte is Plasma Deposition.
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The Interstellar cloud we are entering (as a solar system) changes a simple model CME discharge event into a more continuous process. The CME will act as a trigger or switch.
The Intertellar (magnetic cloud) can support a continuous ion flow between "connected" bodies, this phenomena would be orders of magnitude beyond a simple CME discharge.
The magnetic flow (cloud) will make the 'ether' much more conductive, so energy will be flowing like crazy, instead of just merely on the normal currents it flows through now. So it makes the EMP effect, not only massive, but pretty much all consuming. And, due to the solar system being submerged in this magnetic could, it will make the EMPs somewhat continuous. It will be a sustained process as opposed to a CME event.

OP, is the above correct? Is the interstellar magnetic cloud that our solar system is now encountering a relevant part of this puzzle? Does NASA think that cloud will make the sunstorms' effects more severe?

This is likely going to be my last post. I had a long talk with my wife and family this weekend. For reasons I cannot explain well enough to suit the proof requirements of many here - I have decided that we will be making our move out to our property in June of this year. I will be quiting my job at Boeing - not just leaving without a trace because that would cause folks to want to find out where I had gone.

This post - is the closest to what I was trying to point to about the solar maximum PLUS other objects which NASA knows will affect our solar system of, at least, have a damn good chance of doing so. However, since this mass of objects and particles is so out there in distance and spread out so far - there is simply no way to know how much or when they will either affect the Sun - or our planet directly. No way to know. Because of that - no warnings other than articles like this one which point right to a known - potential - serions - problem.

The conferences I hear are between scientists of various fields working at what in 'secret level topics' would be the kindergarden level. That's all I have clearance to hear. If the topic or conversation goes above that - my audio link gets blanked out. Many meetings about this subject we can't hear from the beginning - we just set up the linki and monitor on scopes for stability. There are at least 12 levels of clearance above mine - and that's only the ones I know of.

So, long story short, I took some time this weekend and we made a decision. I may be early - by a few months or so... but i don't think so. Posting this thread helped me convince myself that acting was better than reacting. There just won't be enough time when it happens. There isn't a clock on this either but I want to be at our place by end of June.... that's my gut feeling. If I' wrong, then we spend our savings and start over in a few years - no real biggie in light of the difference if I'm right. And I believe I'm right to move by June.

Past that, I don't know what to say folks. Everyone has to take my post and others and form their own decision. From here out, you'll likely only see me post from my iPhone. I know when I turn in my notice they will release me immediately - that's the norm in secruity sensitive areas.

I will turn in my notice This coming Friday. That will give us time to do lots of things needed before we make the move.

God bless you all - no matter what you think. Trust your instinct - it has always served me well.

OP, thanks for posting. If you ever feel like coming back to see what us conspiacy theorists are up to, please do. If you ever decide to get more information out there, please come back.

You have started one of THE most interesting threads ever on GLP. Its been fun!

Good luck, and light be with you.

I will go so far as to saqy I have not heard any concern or comments about any immediate threat - or perceived threat - from comets. Also, at my level, I don't get the impression of any intended cover up. They are looking at the Sun all day long and not one mention about any orbs or anything at all in that regard.... but I suppose that could be in meetings above me or moderated by a different VC group. I don't think there is anything there but screwed up data.

Thanks for your follow up but ....
If you want to be at the "safe area" by late June
why are you going to resign this FRIDAY?
You said you already had everything put together for
Bugging OUT so --you don't need to prepare Hhmmmm
why would you stop working now ?????

Your info has brought a lot of attention to stuff we
all needed to analyze and correlate --for that I thank you
but I can't help but think --your "story" is fake but and you wanted to start up some kind of long thinking --
discussing thread ! Success accomplish. You might
have done more good then you think --even if it was a game.

But isn't life a game and a stage....It was nice Knwoing u.

wanted to start up


Okay - i have to reply to this one. I have a house I plan to sell. I never said I was totally prepared - but that we were preparing as we could. I have other things I want to sell. Will money be helpful, hell I don't know. I'm not going to just walk off and leave everything I have in Houston. So I hope enough said about that.

o make long story short, the OP "PROMISED" us that he would let us know when TSHTF.

And he also promised that he would somehow find this thread no matter what happens and leave us the sign.

I believe what the OP said.

May the force be with the OP 888341.

Folks - this is it. When I made that statement I had not made this decision. I have decided to move - for the reasons we all fear. I will still try to get on but I will no longer be at Boeing and no longer involved in real time data. This decision IS the only warning I know how to give !!!!
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Folks - this is it. When I made that statement I had not made this decision. I have decided to move - for the reasons we all fear. I will still try to get on but I will no longer be at Boeing and no longer involved in real time data. This decision IS the only warning I know how to give !!!!

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Methinks it's been moving towards us for some time. As it always does in cycles.

I also think the big to-do about G1.9+3.0 a couple of years ago is linked to this.
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That was in my mind also.

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