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The FLUFFY MAGNETIC RIBBON NEMESIS of the PLASMA UNIVERSE

 
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We live in duality here on planet earth. It is an easy concept to understand but I find it difficult to deal with. In other words you can't have night w/o day, black w/o white, good w/o bad.

I always felt that we could have heaven here on earth if people would just act in a way that was for the greater good. The fact that most people could not or would not understand this and behave accordingly has been a source of a lot of my unhappiness and frustration.

Now I realize that it is all as it should be as we are here on this dualistic plane to learn about these things and earth is dualistic and because it is we have all extremes of good and bad that we experience.

The final culmination of this duality is the fact that there are 2 suns. One sun brings life and one ends it. We are now approaching the end of the cycle, as all thing on earth run in cycles. THIS IS THE DUALISTIC NATURE OF PLANET EARTH AND IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE PARADISE, IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE DUALISTIC SO WE MIGHT LEARN THE DIFFERENCE.
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So in summary of this whole thread....

we are gonna all die????

just wondering
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So in summary of this whole thread....

we are gonna all die????

just wondering
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We all die eventually. So I doubt this is going to be that straightforward. Change is coming on a scale beyond our limited and accepted viewpoints.
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So in summary of this whole thread....

we are gonna all die????

just wondering
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We all die eventually. So I doubt this is going to be that straightforward. Change is coming on a scale beyond our limited and accepted viewpoints.
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like how?
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There is sooo much information in this thread.
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Well I personally think the government are the reptilians themselves sheep
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Well I personally think the government are the reptilians themselves sheep
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:smilingliz:
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what does this all mean??????
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where did fluffy magnetic ribbon come from?

project camelot interviewee said something about magnetic pulse that comming towards us from the center of universe..?

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where did fluffy magnetic ribbon come from?

project camelot interviewee said something about magnetic pulse that comming towards us from the center of universe..?


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No offence but this guy cracks me up
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what does this all mean??????
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Must see video if you want to visualize the IBEX experiment. I know these days people like to watch things instead of reading about them, so here you go.



This one however is perfect for showing how the heliosphere shrinks and expands in reaction for forces outside of it. the whole crux of this is the heliosphere will shrink far in enough to leave the Earth immersed in the cloud itself, as it has in the past, and cause dramatic climate changes as well as aurora plasma and discharge (electrical) events and a host of other effects as explained by Dr. Frisch and her many papers.

Actually a good way to explain it would be, just as we get hit by a dense CME from the sun, the solar system can be hit by a much larger version of a CME from somewhere outside. Just as our magnetosphere shrinks and reacts to the charged particles from the sun, the sun's heliosphere shrinks and reacts to forces acting on it. Only charged particles, which is what a plasma is mostly, affect and get affects by magnetic fields.

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As we all have read probably recently, the world and your choices are being polarized. We are finding ourselves leaning more and more heavily to this camp or that camp. A blatant observation of this is America's political parties. A more realistic observation of this is either the intensification of alliance with a political party, or the abandonment of the political parties.

This polarization is the symptom of the next galactic evolutionary shift. Because this shift includes not only the lower realms of consciousness, i.e. the nuts and bolts of the universe, but also the higher realms, i.e. humans, and the much higher realms, i.e. planetary, and even higher, planetary systems, because of this, some of the changes that are to take place are beyond the human's ability to foresee. Some changes are imaginable, others are not. For those humans at the cusp of evolutionary potential, the changes they will experience are beyond our ability to imagine because the changes are not currently in the realm of human experience. Other changes can be foreseen by some humans because there are islands or pockets of human potential currently residing in the human experience.

During an evolutionary episode, non awareness is sucked into the next phase automatically. Limited awareness, such as the human experience, have a choice in whether to partake in the change. Some will move on, some will continue at stages they are currently in. This is not a negative thing. In the human experience, this is a culmination of choices that have been made setting the individual to be hurled into the coming event according to their projected path.

This thread illustrates the beginning of this evolutionary process. Because of the challenges ahead, your previous actions have committed you to a chosen path. When the SHTF, you will react accordingly.

Our brains communicate and calculate using electromagnetics. The sun communicates with itself and the planetary system using a similar process. The "ribbon" or cloud is like the DMT for the planetary system. It allows the communication between planetary bodies, and even the galactic center, to become wide open and the changes come flooding in. Get ready. Gonna be a ride! Word.
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are ya'll crazy, i'm really asking this is the plot of star trek generation some nerd obviously thought he could scare someone into believing this and i guess it worked show me some evidence, CME's happing all the time and what make you think that in the earths 4.5 billion year existence that this would happen in the smallest micron of time which we have existed, this is human imagination running wild nothing more.
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Intense cosmic ray flux in the past has always been accompanied by drastic climate change and evolutionary bursts. So while in reality things are a little more complicated and extreme, SikWilly is right in his own way of understanding things.

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are ya'll crazy, i'm really asking this is the plot of star trek generation some nerd obviously thought he could scare someone into believing this and i guess it worked show me some evidence, CME's happing all the time and what make you think that in the earths 4.5 billion year existence that this would happen in the smallest micron of time which we have existed, this is human imagination running wild nothing more.
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Except that there's plenty of geological evidence showing it's happened before and will most likely happen again. Look at Frisch's papers and tell me it's imaginations running wild. Go on.
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are ya'll crazy, i'm really asking this is the plot of star trek generation some nerd obviously thought he could scare someone into believing this and i guess it worked show me some evidence, CME's happing all the time and what make you think that in the earths 4.5 billion year existence that this would happen in the smallest micron of time which we have existed, this is human imagination running wild nothing more.
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Except that there's plenty of geological evidence showing it's happened before and will most likely happen again. Look at Frisch's papers and tell me it's imaginations running wild. Go on.
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I am a geology major and your right about one thing only the magnetosphere does change every 20 thousand years or so, but the effects that we are currently experiencing as far a volcanos and earthquakes is miniscule even compared to the mini ice age we went in in the 1800's, what is happening today is the earth is getting hotter like it always does before it goes into a cooling stage, its a natural process. You have to realize that if something that was as bad as what ya'll describe their would already have been catastrophic earthquakes and volcanoes much fiercer than an 8.5 or Iceland's volcano's
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I am a geology major and your right about one thing only the magnetosphere does change every 20 thousand years or so, but the effects that we are currently experiencing as far a volcanos and earthquakes is miniscule even compared to the mini ice age we went in in the 1800's, what is happening today is the earth is getting hotter like it always does before it goes into a cooling stage, its a natural process. You have to realize that if something that was as bad as what ya'll describe their would already have been catastrophic earthquakes and volcanoes much fiercer than an 8.5 or Iceland's volcano's
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If you won't look, how about I shove it into your face because you won't look for yourself.

Abstract

The Solar System during its life has travelled more than 10 times through dense interstellar clouds with particle concentrations of 102-103 and more, compressing the heliosphere to heliopause dimensions smaller than 1 AU and thus bringing the Earth in immediate contact with the interstellar matter. For cloud concentrations greater than of 102 , the flowing interstellar material even at the Earth`s orbit remains completely shielded from solar wind protons and would only be subject to solar photoionization processes. We have developed a 2D-two-fluid gas-dynamical numerical code to describe the hydrodynamical behavior of the incoming interstellar gas near the Earth, taking into account both the photoionization and the gravity of the Sun.

As we show, the resulting strongly increased neutral hydrogen fluxes ranging from 109 to 1011 cause substantial changes in the terrestrial atmosphere. During the phase of the immersion into the cloud the resulting flux of neutral hydrogen incident on the terrestrial atmosphere in the steady state would be balanced by the upward escape flux of H-atoms and the downward flux of water molecules, which is the product of the atmospheric hydrogen-oxygen chemistry via even-odd reaction schemes. In that case hydrogen acts as a chemical agent to remove oxygen atoms and to cause ozone concentration reductions above 50 km by a factor of 1.5 at the stratopause to about a factor of 1000 and more at the mesopause. Thus, depending on the specific encounter parameters the high mixing ratio of hydrogen in the Earth's atmosphere may substantially decrease the ozone concentration in the mesosphere and may trigger an ice age of relatively long duration.
[link to astro.uchicago.edu]

Plenty more there. Many different models showing the effects of different clouds.

Eons ago, giant clouds in space may have led to global extinctions, according to two recent technical papers supported by NASA's Astrobiology Institute.

One paper outlines a rare scenario in which Earth iced over during snowball glaciations, after the solar system passed through dense space clouds. In a more likely scenario, less dense giant molecular clouds may have enabled charged particles to enter Earth's atmosphere, leading to destruction of much of the planet's protective ozone layer. This resulted in global extinctions, according to the second paper. Both recently appeared in the Geophysical Research Letters.

"Computer models show dramatic climate change can be caused by interstellar dust accumulating in Earth's atmosphere during the solar system's immersion into a dense space cloud," said Alex Pavlov, principal author of the two papers. He is a scientist at the University of Colorado, Boulder. The resulting dust layer hovering over the Earth would absorb and scatter solar radiation, yet allow heat to escape from the planet into space, causing runaway ice buildup and snowball glaciations.

Moderately dense space clouds are huge, and the solar system could take as long as 500,000 years to cross one of them. Once in such a cloud, the Earth would be expected to undergo at least one magnetic reversal. During a reversal, electrically charged cosmic rays can enter Earth's atmosphere instead of being deflected by the planet's magnetic field.

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Now maybe they didn't teach you such complicated things in your geology major or these discoveries were made after you finished learning. But there is plenty of geological evidence for this from the ice core samples which shows the atmospheric density and composition, as well as cosmic ray flux to tree rings and geological features.
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Plasmare, you are close.

What you need to know is right there in plain view. In the above video @ 2:42 minutes into it.

When the earth's orbit comes close enough to the fluff a rapid pole shift event will happen on earth. It will be the type of event that will happen over 1 to 2 days.

The earth will roil and then as the earths orbit moves away from the fluff the event will happen again.

An Extinction Level Event. Prepare accordingly.
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Plasmare, thank God you are back...
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Nice additions to the argument Plasmare.
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Nice additions to the argument Plasmare.
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No, just the same old ones... It's not easy to maintain all the relevant information in one thread, so many people just skip to the end because some threads are simply too long to read thoroughly. Just look at the magnetosphere thread... It's a behemoth.
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Why is it called the " nemesis " of the plasma universe ?
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Why is it called the " nemesis " of the plasma universe ?
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needed something bad ass to offset the queer(and not very doomish)sounding "scientific" term "fluffy"...1dunno1lmaopeace
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Why is it called the " nemesis " of the plasma universe ?
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needed something bad ass to offset the queer(and not very doomish)sounding "scientific" term "fluffy"...1dunno1lmaopeace
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cruise
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Why is it called the " nemesis " of the plasma universe ?
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needed something bad ass to offset the queer(and not very doomish)sounding "scientific" term "fluffy"...1dunno1lmaopeace
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So it's good or bad..?.., or nobody really knows donk...? and there's just a bunch of theories floating around ? If I wasn't confused before I found the fluffy ribbons I sure am now.

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Is this the '6000C degree energetic helium/hydrogen plasma'? doomish enough?

needed something bad ass to offset the queer(and not very doomish)sounding "scientific" term "fluffy"...1dunno1lmaopeace
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I am a geology major and your right about one thing only the magnetosphere does change every 20 thousand years or so, but the effects that we are currently experiencing as far a volcanos and earthquakes is miniscule even compared to the mini ice age we went in in the 1800's, what is happening today is the earth is getting hotter like it always does before it goes into a cooling stage, its a natural process. You have to realize that if something that was as bad as what ya'll describe their would already have been catastrophic earthquakes and volcanoes much fiercer than an 8.5 or Iceland's volcano's
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If you won't look, how about I shove it into your face because you won't look for yourself.

Abstract

The Solar System during its life has travelled more than 10 times through dense interstellar clouds with particle concentrations of 102-103 and more, compressing the heliosphere to heliopause dimensions smaller than 1 AU and thus bringing the Earth in immediate contact with the interstellar matter. For cloud concentrations greater than of 102 , the flowing interstellar material even at the Earth`s orbit remains completely shielded from solar wind protons and would only be subject to solar photoionization processes. We have developed a 2D-two-fluid gas-dynamical numerical code to describe the hydrodynamical behavior of the incoming interstellar gas near the Earth, taking into account both the photoionization and the gravity of the Sun.

As we show, the resulting strongly increased neutral hydrogen fluxes ranging from 109 to 1011 cause substantial changes in the terrestrial atmosphere. During the phase of the immersion into the cloud the resulting flux of neutral hydrogen incident on the terrestrial atmosphere in the steady state would be balanced by the upward escape flux of H-atoms and the downward flux of water molecules, which is the product of the atmospheric hydrogen-oxygen chemistry via even-odd reaction schemes. In that case hydrogen acts as a chemical agent to remove oxygen atoms and to cause ozone concentration reductions above 50 km by a factor of 1.5 at the stratopause to about a factor of 1000 and more at the mesopause. Thus, depending on the specific encounter parameters the high mixing ratio of hydrogen in the Earth's atmosphere may substantially decrease the ozone concentration in the mesosphere and may trigger an ice age of relatively long duration.
[link to astro.uchicago.edu]

Plenty more there. Many different models showing the effects of different clouds.

Eons ago, giant clouds in space may have led to global extinctions, according to two recent technical papers supported by NASA's Astrobiology Institute.

One paper outlines a rare scenario in which Earth iced over during snowball glaciations, after the solar system passed through dense space clouds. In a more likely scenario, less dense giant molecular clouds may have enabled charged particles to enter Earth's atmosphere, leading to destruction of much of the planet's protective ozone layer. This resulted in global extinctions, according to the second paper. Both recently appeared in the Geophysical Research Letters.

"Computer models show dramatic climate change can be caused by interstellar dust accumulating in Earth's atmosphere during the solar system's immersion into a dense space cloud," said Alex Pavlov, principal author of the two papers. He is a scientist at the University of Colorado, Boulder. The resulting dust layer hovering over the Earth would absorb and scatter solar radiation, yet allow heat to escape from the planet into space, causing runaway ice buildup and snowball glaciations.

Moderately dense space clouds are huge, and the solar system could take as long as 500,000 years to cross one of them. Once in such a cloud, the Earth would be expected to undergo at least one magnetic reversal. During a reversal, electrically charged cosmic rays can enter Earth's atmosphere instead of being deflected by the planet's magnetic field.

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Now maybe they didn't teach you such complicated things in your geology major or these discoveries were made after you finished learning. But there is plenty of geological evidence for this from the ice core samples which shows the atmospheric density and composition, as well as cosmic ray flux to tree rings and geological features.
 Quoting: Plasmare


I never said an ice age was impossible intact i hinted in that direction, as i said a natural process that our earth goes threw all the time, it might only happen every 20 thousand years to us but it has happened plenty of times before and we have only had three extinction level event that really hurt us and none were caused by an interstellar cloud.

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