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The FLUFFY MAGNETIC RIBBON NEMESIS of the PLASMA UNIVERSE

 
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There is no aether (with the exception of this Forum). yeahsure
The Michelson–Morley experiment clearly proved this back in 1887.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Scientists are still working on this issue. Check this page for updates: [link to www.sciencedirect.com]

They are still working on a unified field theory which would include all forces, but had no luck yet.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You have to accept that the answers to the fundamental questions of astrophysics aren't always easy to understand. In fact, the deeper you dig into them, the more knowledge you have to accumulate.

But anyway, it's worth it.


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there are no lines, there are stronger forces and weaker forces and, where they merge, boundaries occur, observable by the material action taking place along the merge bounderies

charge exists within all space, all things and it`s existence (motion) creates magnetic force(s) within all space and all things

this field/force is called aether, o-point, torsion, spirit etc.

it is non material ie. massless

from this field/force all energy (information) for sustaining our universe transmits universaly and continuesly

because this the origin of reality ,all we observe follows the same principles of charge/electricity with force/field moving throughout our universe sustaining stars, planets, moons and life infinitly

So, instead of having a specific medium that the charge can run through (that is called the magnetic field lines), it is actually just the area that the charge can run through most easily, so that is the path it goes down.

exactly sickscent. that medium (aether) is everywhere as charge (electricity) is everwhere
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This is going to sound off-topic, but it isn't.

I find this extremely exciting -- the Healing Energy called ReiKi is somehow connected with this theory! hf I just know it in my innermost being.

One gets "attuned" to the ReiKi energy, and then one can channel that energy to others. It is very healing. "ReiKi" means "Divinely Guided Healing Energy" in Japanese.

This is awesome information.

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Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html
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"Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato
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"Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy
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there are no lines, there are stronger forces and weaker forces and, where they merge, boundaries occur, observable by the material action taking place along the merge bounderies

charge exists within all space, all things and it`s existence (motion) creates magnetic force(s) within all space and all things

this field/force is called aether, o-point, torsion, spirit etc.

it is non material ie. massless

from this field/force all energy (information) for sustaining our universe transmits universaly and continuesly

because this the origin of reality ,all we observe follows the same principles of charge/electricity with force/field moving throughout our universe sustaining stars, planets, moons and life infinitly

So, instead of having a specific medium that the charge can run through (that is called the magnetic field lines), it is actually just the area that the charge can run through most easily, so that is the path it goes down.

exactly sickscent. that medium (aether) is everywhere as charge (electricity) is everwhere

. .

This is going to sound off-topic, but it isn't.

I find this extremely exciting -- the Healing Energy called ReiKi is somehow connected with this theory! hf I just know it in my innermost being.

One gets "attuned" to the ReiKi energy, and then one can channel that energy to others. It is very healing. "ReiKi" means "Divinely Guided Healing Energy" in Japanese.

This is awesome information.

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I've got my Reiki certification...

My sister is WAY into it.
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I've got my Reiki certification...

My sister is WAY into it.
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That is awesome, Sickscent. hugs And don't you see the connection I mentioned?


I was attuned to the ReiKi energy in 1993. I have been a ReiKi Master since 1995. I don't practice it much anymore, except on myself and family members, although I was very active in the ReiKi community for many years.

hf

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Ether and the Theory of Relativity
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Albert Einstein

Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

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Ether and the Theory of Relativity
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Albert Einstein

Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

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Just a hint: To workaround this issue, Einstein later introduced the Lorentz-Transformation to his Equations of the SRT.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


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There can be no transformation equation: not a fancy Lorentz transformation, but also not a simple transformation like x’ = x - vt . So the given equation is not a Galilei transformation, in any sense.
miles mathis


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e-mail miles, he will reply

i beieve einstein was forced to alter his equations because the aether/electric/plasma universe was within national security constraints

it still is, to a degree
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i love miles`s ego cool2

Charge is and always will be a distribued sphere. It is only natural for it to have a stacked spin
The standard model states that matter has a dual nature, showing characteristics of a particle in some experiments and characteristics of a wave in others. But it does not tell us how matter expresses these characteristics. It assumes that it is impossible to do so. But it is not impossible. In fact, it is embarrassingly simple. Matter is NOT both particle and wave. Matter is a particle with a wave. That is, the photon, like the electron and the proton and every other incorporation of matter, is a discrete particle, with a radius, a surface area, a mass, and a spin. Fundamentally, it is not a wave. It is a physical sphere, just as much as the Earth or the Moon or a marble or a bowling ball.

So all those smug little PhDs on the forums are wrong. To solve the problem of duality, we must not think of the photon or electron as a probability. We must think of it as a physical sphere. We must do so because doing so is the only way to solve the mysteries of quantum mechanics. I have already proved this in the most direct fashion possible: by solving problems that had stymied them for generations. I have solved problems Bohr could not solve, that Einstein could not solve, that Feynman could not solve, and I have done it by ignoring all the warnings from the physics police—ignoring the warnings of the cult groupies.

They have said there is no way to visualize superposition, but I have done it. They have said there is no way to illustrate wave motions or characteristics, but I have done it. They have said there is no way to explain duality in a physical, mechanical way, but I have done it.

I have done it by showing that a simple sphere, of any size, can have four stacked spins. The first spin is an axial spin, with a size of R (where R is the radius). The second spin cannot be axial, due to gyroscopic rules. It must be outside the influence of the axial spin. Therefore it must be an end-over-end spin, with a size of 2R.


sickscents have you noticed how nasa is becoming our new best friend tounge
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and i notice i always want to put an s on your name

not 3 of you, are there? wtf
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i love miles`s ego cool2

Charge is and always will be a distribued sphere. It is only natural for it to have a stacked spin
The standard model states that matter has a dual nature, showing characteristics of a particle in some experiments and characteristics of a wave in others. But it does not tell us how matter expresses these characteristics. It assumes that it is impossible to do so. But it is not impossible. In fact, it is embarrassingly simple. Matter is NOT both particle and wave. Matter is a particle with a wave. That is, the photon, like the electron and the proton and every other incorporation of matter, is a discrete particle, with a radius, a surface area, a mass, and a spin. Fundamentally, it is not a wave. It is a physical sphere, just as much as the Earth or the Moon or a marble or a bowling ball.

So all those smug little PhDs on the forums are wrong. To solve the problem of duality, we must not think of the photon or electron as a probability. We must think of it as a physical sphere. We must do so because doing so is the only way to solve the mysteries of quantum mechanics. I have already proved this in the most direct fashion possible: by solving problems that had stymied them for generations. I have solved problems Bohr could not solve, that Einstein could not solve, that Feynman could not solve, and I have done it by ignoring all the warnings from the physics police—ignoring the warnings of the cult groupies.

They have said there is no way to visualize superposition, but I have done it. They have said there is no way to illustrate wave motions or characteristics, but I have done it. They have said there is no way to explain duality in a physical, mechanical way, but I have done it.

I have done it by showing that a simple sphere, of any size, can have four stacked spins. The first spin is an axial spin, with a size of R (where R is the radius). The second spin cannot be axial, due to gyroscopic rules. It must be outside the influence of the axial spin. Therefore it must be an end-over-end spin, with a size of 2R.


sickscents have you noticed how nasa is becoming our new best friend tounge
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Yes, actually I have noticed that.

And that's OK with the ssssssssses
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i love miles`s ego cool2

Charge is and always will be a distribued sphere. It is only natural for it to have a stacked spin
The standard model states that matter has a dual nature, showing characteristics of a particle in some experiments and characteristics of a wave in others. But it does not tell us how matter expresses these characteristics. It assumes that it is impossible to do so. But it is not impossible. In fact, it is embarrassingly simple. Matter is NOT both particle and wave. Matter is a particle with a wave. That is, the photon, like the electron and the proton and every other incorporation of matter, is a discrete particle, with a radius, a surface area, a mass, and a spin. Fundamentally, it is not a wave. It is a physical sphere, just as much as the Earth or the Moon or a marble or a bowling ball.

So all those smug little PhDs on the forums are wrong. To solve the problem of duality, we must not think of the photon or electron as a probability. We must think of it as a physical sphere. We must do so because doing so is the only way to solve the mysteries of quantum mechanics. I have already proved this in the most direct fashion possible: by solving problems that had stymied them for generations. I have solved problems Bohr could not solve, that Einstein could not solve, that Feynman could not solve, and I have done it by ignoring all the warnings from the physics police—ignoring the warnings of the cult groupies.

They have said there is no way to visualize superposition, but I have done it. They have said there is no way to illustrate wave motions or characteristics, but I have done it. They have said there is no way to explain duality in a physical, mechanical way, but I have done it.

I have done it by showing that a simple sphere, of any size, can have four stacked spins. The first spin is an axial spin, with a size of R (where R is the radius). The second spin cannot be axial, due to gyroscopic rules. It must be outside the influence of the axial spin. Therefore it must be an end-over-end spin, with a size of 2R.


sickscents have you noticed how nasa is becoming our new best friend tounge
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Replace your idea of a sphere with something like a 3- (or even n-) dimentional Wave Pattern and we're on the same page...

As you might know, a spin also represents a quantum status. That's why this idea correlates very well with the fundamental ideas of quantum mechanics.

But i don't want to lead away from the original Topic of this great Thread.





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Replace your idea of a sphere with something like a 3- (or even n-) dimentional Wave Pattern and we're on the same page...

As you might know, a spin also represents a quantum status. That's why this idea correlates very well with the fundamental ideas of quantum mechanics.


the completion of of miles`s statement i posted above

cool2 testing tounge

If we give the particle a straight-line motion in any direction, the end-over-end spin will give it a wave. Just monitor the position of the center of the particle, relative to its initial position. On any graph, the motion must create a wave.

I call this first end-over-end spin the x-spin (the axial spin is not an x-spin, since an axial-spinning particle is not moving in the x,y,z field yet). Then we have a y-spin of 4R and a z-spin of 8R. Each spin is orthogonal to inner spins. And each spin creates another wave.

The z-spin creates the electrical field and the y-spin creates the magnetic field. These two outer spins are orthogonal, and the right hand rule applies to them. We achieve all this simply from a mechanical analysis of spin, without any other postulates or theory.
This shows the exact mechanical cause both of the wave and of the duality. Stacked spins cause the wave. The particle is not a wave: the particle moves as a wave against a background, due to stacked spins


[link to milesmathis.com]

But i don't want to lead away from the original Topic of this great Thread.
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it is a great thread and nor do i wish to lead away from topic

thanks for talking ac
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i posted this on your other thread, but i think it stays on topic with symbols/plasma/electric universe

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Replace your idea of a sphere with something like a 3- (or even n-) dimentional Wave Pattern and we're on the same page...

As you might know, a spin also represents a quantum status. That's why this idea correlates very well with the fundamental ideas of quantum mechanics.


the completion of of miles`s statement i posted above

cool2 testing tounge

If we give the particle a straight-line motion in any direction, the end-over-end spin will give it a wave. Just monitor the position of the center of the particle, relative to its initial position. On any graph, the motion must create a wave.

I call this first end-over-end spin the x-spin (the axial spin is not an x-spin, since an axial-spinning particle is not moving in the x,y,z field yet). Then we have a y-spin of 4R and a z-spin of 8R. Each spin is orthogonal to inner spins. And each spin creates another wave.

The z-spin creates the electrical field and the y-spin creates the magnetic field. These two outer spins are orthogonal, and the right hand rule applies to them. We achieve all this simply from a mechanical analysis of spin, without any other postulates or theory.
This shows the exact mechanical cause both of the wave and of the duality. Stacked spins cause the wave. The particle is not a wave: the particle moves as a wave against a background, due to stacked spins


[link to milesmathis.com]

But i don't want to lead away from the original Topic of this great Thread.

it is a great thread and nor do i wish to lead away from topic

thanks for talking ac
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Really my pleasure. I enjoy this kind of brainstorming.
hf

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Replace your idea of a sphere with something like a 3- (or even n-) dimentional Wave Pattern and we're on the same page...

As you might know, a spin also represents a quantum status. That's why this idea correlates very well with the fundamental ideas of quantum mechanics.


the completion of of miles`s statement i posted above

cool2 testing tounge

If we give the particle a straight-line motion in any direction, the end-over-end spin will give it a wave. Just monitor the position of the center of the particle, relative to its initial position. On any graph, the motion must create a wave.

I call this first end-over-end spin the x-spin (the axial spin is not an x-spin, since an axial-spinning particle is not moving in the x,y,z field yet). Then we have a y-spin of 4R and a z-spin of 8R. Each spin is orthogonal to inner spins. And each spin creates another wave.

The z-spin creates the electrical field and the y-spin creates the magnetic field. These two outer spins are orthogonal, and the right hand rule applies to them. We achieve all this simply from a mechanical analysis of spin, without any other postulates or theory.
This shows the exact mechanical cause both of the wave and of the duality. Stacked spins cause the wave. The particle is not a wave: the particle moves as a wave against a background, due to stacked spins


[link to milesmathis.com]

But i don't want to lead away from the original Topic of this great Thread.

it is a great thread and nor do i wish to lead away from topic

thanks for talking ac


Really my pleasure. I enjoy this kind of brainstorming.
hf

peace
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More please! You're better than Dan Winter!
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there are no lines, there are stronger forces and weaker forces and, where they merge, boundaries occur, observable by the material action taking place along the merge bounderies

charge exists within all space, all things and it`s existence (motion) creates magnetic force(s) within all space and all things

this field/force is called aether, o-point, torsion, spirit etc.

it is non material ie. massless

from this field/force all energy (information) for sustaining our universe transmits universaly and continuesly

because this the origin of reality ,all we observe follows the same principles of charge/electricity with force/field moving throughout our universe sustaining stars, planets, moons and life infinitly
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Abstract
The recognition of limits in the tendency to miniaturize the so-called self-organizing devices inspired scientists to seek inspiration from living organisms that operate with functional elements that employ thermal energy exploiting quantum phenomena. Here we show how such operations are performed by a complex space charge configuration emerged by self-organization in plasma. Endowed with a special kind of memory, the complexity is able to ensure its survival in a metastable state performing the operations “learned” during its emergence by self-organization. Possessing memory, the complexity works as an intelligent system able to evolve under suitable environmental conditions.

[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

energy = information cool2
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Here we show how such operations are performed by a complex space charge configuration emerged by self-organization in plasma. Endowed with a special kind of memory, the complexity is able to ensure its survival in a metastable state performing the operations “learned” during its emergence by self-organization. Possessing memory, the complexity works as an intelligent system able to evolve under suitable environmental conditions.

two types of materia exist:

that which receives continuous instruction (energy) to be and remain what it is, planet, rock, chair, tree etc.

that which receives continuous intruction (energy) to remain what they are whilst containing the instruction to be independent (intelligent) IE: interact with the incoming energy (information) and take independent action

there are varying degrees of intelligent (independent) interaction/action

potential is infinite as source intelligence (energy) is infinite
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"science" is beginning to see it everwhere

From plasma crystals and helical structures towards inorganic living matter

Abstract.

Complex plasmas may naturally self-organize themselves into stable interacting helical structures that exhibit features normally attributed to organic living matter. The self-organization is based on non-trivial physical mechanisms of plasma interactions involving over-screening of plasma polarization. As a result, each helical string composed of solid microparticles is topologically and dynamically controlled by plasma fluxes leading to particle charging and over-screening, the latter providing attraction even among helical strings of the same charge sign. These interacting complex structures exhibit thermodynamic and evolutionary features thought to be peculiar only to living matter such as bifurcations that serve as `memory marks', self-duplication, metabolic rates in a thermodynamically open system, and non-Hamiltonian dynamics. We examine the salient features of this new complex `state of soft matter' in light of the autonomy, evolution, progenity and autopoiesis principles used to define life. It is concluded that complex self-organized plasma structures exhibit all the necessary properties to qualify them as candidates for inorganic living matter that may exist in space provided certain conditions allow them to evolve naturally.


[link to iopscience.iop.org]
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the cause of effects

subquantum refered to below is 0-point/aether/torsion/spirit

In other words, the system itself can be inordinately and unfathomably complicated in the information sense and what we can observe is actually a secondary result of the active information inherent in the system. Quantum results are inherently incomplete, because it appears that we can never possibly have access to all the information which has been involved internal to the quantum “black box” to produce the results which come out of the quantum black box.

The results which arise from the quantum system are not due to multiple fictional “quantum worlds” comprised of infinities of possibilities, which are due to overlapping of probabilities. This way of thinking leads to a view which we can never actually observe in our everyday experience. Rather, the activities of the quantum system rely exclusively on vast quantities of diverse kinds of information, which act to determine what exactly comes out of the black box, and when. The internals of the black box may be actually directly causal, but this is beyond our ability to perceive directly, at this time.

We inhabit a very real and experiencable universe which interacts with us, and we with it. Certainly, we do not at each instant go through a process of examining infinite numbers of superpositions of infinite numbers of “possible worlds” in order to determine which quantum states have “collapsed from the wave functions”. Instead, we constantly accept whatever information is available wherever we have focused our attention, and act on that information, as required by the circumstances. The observer is perfectly dependent on the information supply available, and thus not at all separated from the universe, nor its activities, contrary to current quantum themes.

Thus it seems clear that the observed genetic alterations were not due to quantum correlations, but due to the information content of the media having been transferred from point A, across space, by several possible means, to point B. The information transferred contained the genetic sequences. Thus the quantum system at point B was re-organized by new information which came from point A.

When we consider the genetic system as being comprised, at the deepest level, of subquantum entities which are the vehicles for the observed memory of the media, then it is easy to see how these entities can inform the larger objects comprising the genetic system, in a manner which seems to have some analogy to quantum correlations, but which is in fact due to a subquantum process.

Robert Neil Boyd
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this explaination shows how minds are getting in touch with the "how"

this is important because our universe reacts/interacts, it is vital to be aware of what is "talking" and the language nature uses

motion/events, both seen and heard, once understood, open the door to intuitive/feeling information received, as a result of recognising the precursor natural signs/symbols
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"Intuition, the 6th sense --should be called the 1st sense, as quantum information is non-local and basic, but more emphasis has always been on rational mind rather than intuitive mind." They actually have the math now to handle that non-local aspect of consciousness, and explaining the phenomena of consciousness.
Dr. Edgar Mitchell October 6th, 2008

but, intuitition can only be accurate when the observer understands what they are observing
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The key issue is the nature of the beast, weather that is.

Pollution is a separate issue and needs to be dealt with, but the idea that it should be possible to control or moderate the earth's weather by cutting back on CO2 emissions is just plain nuts.

The sun is the governing factor, as there exists a dynamic energy differential between the earth and the sun and there is no manner by which to control or moderate the sun.

Climate change is happening and extremes are bound to increase, but there is no global warming as such.

The existing energy differential between the earth and sun is increasing in a steep upward curve, so we can expect more extremes in weather conditions.

The idea of an energy differential fits with the EU. Reading the book Unity gives some insight into the issue. It is a free read at [link to www.gravitycontrol.org]

Of course there is climate change, it's an ongoing process and always has been, but Al Gore is not going to change the situation nor is anyone else for that matter.

David Barclay 27th March 2010
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thoughts:

Cherenkov radiation (also spelled Cerenkov or Čerenkov) is electromagnetic radiation emitted when a charged particle (such as an electron) passes through an insulator at a constant speed greater than the speed of light in that medium. The characteristic blue glow of nuclear reactors is due to Cherenkov radiation. It is named after Russian scientist Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov, the 1958 Nobel Prize winner who was the first to characterise it rigorously

Cherenkov radiation results when a charged particle, most commonly an electron, travels through a dielectric (electrically polarizable) medium with a speed greater than that at which light would otherwise propagate in the same medium.


'Mach c'? Scientists observe sound traveling faster than the speed of light

scientists could create superluminal group velocity of sound waves, as well as negative group velocity. In the latter case, the peak of the output pulse traveling through the loop filter exited the filter before the peak of the input pulse had reached the beginning of the filter. Image credit: Bill Robertson, et al.

For the first time, scientists have experimentally demonstrated that sound pulses can travel at velocities faster than the speed of light, c. William Robertson’s team from Middle Tennessee State University also showed that the group velocity of sound waves can become infinite, and even negative.

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the group velocity of sound waves can become infinite, and even negative.

negative velocity simple put = arrives before it is sent

this can only occur because us, the observer, are limited to seeing and hearing at light speed

the sound, travelling superluminal (instant), via aether, is not contrained by light velocity, therefore it arrives at it`s destination quicker than we , limited to light speed, see/hear it leave the transmitter
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I wrote this over two years ago! I wanted to bump it because it seems more relavent nowadays than back then. It seems to say so much with what we are finding out about the Sun's relationship with the Earth, the Solar System's path through the stars, and (literally) where we are heading as a whole.
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if within our universe, all effects we see and hear are caused by causes which occur at superluminal velocity and , all that we see and hear is coming towards us, "sensitives", such as your self sickscent, will detect (feel) the energy (information) that is altering within the superluminal dimension

this occurs before the effects are transmitted into the visible light speed realm of sight, sound and matter

it happens over time and what you detect (feel) before the visible effects occur, are events awaiting to happen, as the superluminal dimension alters the information it is transmitting into the light dimension
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I wrote this over two years ago! I wanted to bump it because it seems more relavent nowadays than back then. It seems to say so much with what we are finding out about the Sun's relationship with the Earth, the Solar System's path through the stars, and (literally) where we are heading as a whole.

thought:


if within our universe, all effects we see and hear are caused by causes which occur at superluminal velocity and , all that we see and hear is coming towards us, "sensitives", such as your self sickscent, will detect (feel) the energy (information) that is altering within the superluminal dimension

this occurs before the effects are transmitted into the visible light speed realm of sight, sound and matter

it happens over time and what you detect (feel) before the visible effects occur, are events awaiting to happen, as the superluminal dimension alters the information it is transmitting into the light dimension
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Yes, I would agree with that. I think the problem is that it is 'information' that comes superluminally. So, the effects might be felt, but there is nothing to base it off of because the event has yet to arrive.
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Good Thread !!

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bump
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Yes, I would agree with that. I think the problem is that it is 'information' that comes superluminally. So, the effects might be felt, but there is nothing to base it off of because the event has yet to arrive.
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yes sickscent, i understand what you mean

i believe that will alter favourable, as you and others investigate the nature of our universe
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yes sickscent, i understand what you mean

i believe that will alter favourable, as you and others investigate the nature of our universe
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NASA’s five THEMIS spacecraft “discovered a breach in Earth’s magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to ‘load up’ the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms.”

Analysts from the University of New Hampshire remarked that this opening was four times wider than the earth itself and more than seven earth diameters long, while the influx of particles was likewise “an order of magnitude greater than what we thought was possible”.

A computer simulation revealed that two holes frequently develop in the magnetic field of the earth, “...one at high latitude over the Northern hemisphere, and one at high latitude over the Southern hemisphere. The holes form over the daylight side of Earth, on the side of the magnetic shield facing the sun.”

It is believed that the openings form above the earth’s equator and then roll over to earth’s winter pole, which is in the north in December and in the south in July. The holes close as rapidly as they open, NASA’s current estimate being that the two fields of the sun and the earth “briefly merge or ‘reconnect,' forming a portal through which particles can flow” approximately “every eight minutes.”

The perplexity expressed by scientists upon this discovery testifies that these colossal gaps in the geomagnetic field are also massive gaps in current knowledge. It is all the more puzzling, then, to find that traditional societies from different parts of the globe have long believed in ‘celestial portals’ that open and shut at dangerous speeds. An earlier Picture of the Day concerned the widespread motif of an aperture in the fabric of the sky, that was often linked to the north pole – the ‘hole at the pole.'

Curiously, peoples on both hemispheres held that such sky holes open and close with great rapidity, not unlike the ‘Symplegades’ of classical mythology. As part of their initiation rituals, prospective shamans of the Wiradjuri people, of southeast New South Wales, Australia, used to believe that they were led upwards by their spiritual guides to the celestial abode of the supreme god Baiame.

From an anonymous medicine-man or ‘doctor’ of the kangaroo totem of the Muri subclass of this nation, interviewed before 1887, comes the following account: “We went through the clouds, and on the other side was the sky. We went through the place where the doctors go through, and it kept opening and shutting very quickly.” Just so, the Tsimshian, of northern British Columbia, observed prior to 1909 that the sky, “a beautiful open country,” “is reached through the hole in the sky …, which opens and closes.” The Buryat are an ethnic minority in Siberia, who envision the sky as a giant inverted ‘kettle’ that alternately lifts up and comes down to the earth; ‘when the cover of the sky is raised, an opening arises between its rim and that of the earth.'

A similar belief was subsumed in the esoteric tradition of Hindūism. According to this, the universe consists of three layers, the earth, the ‘air’ or atmosphere, and the sky, that look like ‘bricks’ with a perforation in the centre of each. As the soul of the visionary ascends towards the sky, each of the three holes must be cleared to make way: “When the person goes away from this world, he comes to the wind. Then the wind makes room for him, like the hole of a carriage wheel, and through it he mounts higher.” In this metaphysical brand of Hindū belief, the “wind” behaves suspiciously like what is now called the solar wind.

Were these traditional societies describing the holes through which flux transfer events take place? Certainly, it is hard to think of other phenomena in the natural world that could have inspired these traditions, attested in Australia, North America and Asia alike. Can such holes ever be observed with the naked eye by human beings on earth? If it took scientists this long to discover their existence and even today the ‘magnetic portals’ have not been observed directly, is it not outrageous to suggest that pre-scientific cultures knew of them? It is impossible to tell at present.

Perhaps electromagnetic activity in the inner solar system exceeded today’s values by orders of magnitude in order for flux transfer events to become part of the experiential horizon of humanity. Perhaps shamans have at times been able to condition their minds in ways that enabled a direct experience of events transpiring in the ionosphere. All of this remains highly speculative for now, but the fuel of scientific discovery is to ask provocative questions.
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thinking sickscent and i wonder if you agree?

i believe it is reasonable to consider that reading your threads, few readers could consider they exist within the same universe that they did before reading

IE: they are, within a new universe

this opens the possibility that previous universal/natural rules/laws/consequences may no longer apply

some will, but i believe many will not

conversly, many natural/universal consequences may yet to be discovered, they have remained unseen and unknown because, nobody was looking/anticipating them

new universe

i like that





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