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"concrete" proof the Bible was not written by humans

 
MCRock
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While the pattern is interesting, it is not objective, verifiable evidence of authorship by a deity.

Concrete proof of deific authorship would necessitate proof of the existence of said author; attribution of deeds to something unverifiable is simply another facet of belief.

So, simply put, the alleged author would have to be a little more accessible, so that we could get the sound bite or quote, or even a forward, y'know for the 4,000,000,000th edition or whatever.

Concrete proof FAIL.
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psalms ....written in ? or... written with?

Hebrew - h-B-R-U
haberu - aber - a voice (a sound)



Hebrew in Hebrew is the word "Evrit"

comming from "ever" in Hebrew which means to go over

to transcend
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917357



You are a lying cunt...

The word hebrew comes from eber, son of Shem... Iber, ibruwi... Iberian...

The Ancient Hebrews, the "Ibriy"...

The actual word used in the Hebrew language in this passage is, "Ibriy", pronounced ib-ree.

In the Strong's Dictionary of the Biblical Hebrew and Chaldee this word derives from a family name. In other words, it is a surname, from the Hebrew word Eber, and designates an Eberite.

The Hebrew word Eber indicates "a region beyond". Eber is mentioned as a descendant of Shem, and ancestor of Abraham the Habiru. Genesis 10:21 makes mention of Eber.

"Unto Shem, also the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born."

Interestingly enough, the word Eber finds its origins in the Hebrew word translated as "Abar" or Lebar.

See Genesis 14:13 where Abraham is called a Hebrew, or descendant of Eber.
(Place names associated with Eber: Ebro, Iberia)

So Eber means Hebrew and Eberia or Iberia means Land of the Hebrews... and we should ad to all this Land'a'LUZ... The Light Land... Land a Luci... The Land of the Light People.


PS BIBLE IS WRITTEN BY PEOPLE OF THE FUTURE... it sounds unbelievable but its the truth... and jews are False Prophets.
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What the OP says is true. You are apparently oblivious to the enormous amount of research that has been going on for basically thousands of years. Who are the ones that have been studying these patterns? The rational jews. Just read look into the early esoteric jewish texts.


And cos jews say it must be true..the words rational and jew are an oxymoron. anyone who dresses like that with the cap and the ringlits and beleives all that mumbo jumbo needs ignoring untill they stop being so silly.fact
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You are a fool! Mathematics is the most rational language there is. Mathematics doesn't lie! In Hebrew, number and letter are one and the same thing. The Pentateuch of Moses is a mathematical book as much as it is a readable text. Even the first chapters of Genesis are full of relationships between prime numbers. It is also full of geometric and topological operations. Many scientists of our time suspect that there is a complete physics encoded there and are searching for it.
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psalms ....written in ? or... written with?

Hebrew - h-B-R-U
haberu - aber - a voice (a sound)



Hebrew in Hebrew is the word "Evrit"

comming from "ever" in Hebrew which means to go over

to transcend



You are a lying cunt...
 Quoting: Gogh 934997


No, he is not. Ivrit is "One who crosses over". Even academic scholars acknowledge that!
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Re: "concrete" proof the Bible was not written by humans
psalms ....written in ? or... written with?

Hebrew - h-B-R-U
haberu - aber - a voice (a sound)



Hebrew in Hebrew is the word "Evrit"

comming from "ever" in Hebrew which means to go over

to transcend



You are a lying cunt...

No, he is not. Ivrit is "One who crosses over". Even academic scholars acknowledge that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 998751



thank you

some people here have so much hate

they cant see past their nose



"You are a lying cunt..."


wtf ?
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Concrete proof of deific authorship would necessitate proof of the existence of said author; attribution of deeds to something unverifiable is simply another facet of belief.

 Quoting: MCRock 951075


No man would be able to write a text that is mathematically true and yet at the same history tells a story that makes sense in a natural language. The text is FULL of mathematical relations AND it is multidimensional. You can make a n-dimensional grid of it and read it at different angles.

You don't know what you are talking about!
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some people here have so much hate

they cant see past their nose
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Yes. A big choice is being made. People are choosing camps and some people are becoming more and more hateful. Difficult thing to watch but that's the way it is. A separation of waters is under way.
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Re: "concrete" proof the Bible was not written by humans
This is not a easy read


If one reads it


they will be AMAZED

It seems like alot of people would rather

hate Jews

than learn anything

for those seeking WISDOM read this


IT IS SOMETHING

UNUSUAL


It not fiction

Its not written by a Human


Here is "concrete" proof


The 1300th verse from the beginning of Psalms is

the last verse of Psalm 78. The 1300th verse from the

end of Psalms is the last verse of Psalm 77. Thus,

Psalm 78 is enveloped by the overlap of 1300 verses

going both ways. Psalm 78 has 72 verses. Verse 36,

one of its two center verses, is verse 1264 in Psalms,

the exact center verse of the 2527 verses of Psalms.

Psalm 79 contains 13 verses. Thus, Psalm 80 begins

after exactly 1313 verses.


from the beginning of Psalm 80 until the end of Psalms there

are 8888 words. Thus, the Book of Psalms comprises

1313 verses followed by 8888 words.

read this it will blow you mind


[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]

Huh?

wtf
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Concrete proof of deific authorship would necessitate proof of the existence of said author; attribution of deeds to something unverifiable is simply another facet of belief.



No man would be able to write a text that is mathematically true and yet at the same history tells a story that makes sense in a natural language. The text is FULL of mathematical relations AND it is multidimensional. You can make a n-dimensional grid of it and read it at different angles.

You don't know what you are talking about!
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Ooops! I meant "at the same time".
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and they did not have "computers"
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Your "God" is an alien. I can't wait for the arrival of the Borg ship... I mean New Jerusalem.

ufo56
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Resistance is futile. alien03

[link to www.neaiga.org]
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 Quoting: Gogh 934997


You shouldn't never, ever, confuse erudition with spiritual Knowledge and Wisdom. It is possible to be an erudite and still be an ass.
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Re: "concrete" proof the Bible was not written by humans
psalms ....written in ? or... written with?

Hebrew - h-B-R-U
haberu - aber - a voice (a sound)



Hebrew in Hebrew is the word "Evrit"

comming from "ever" in Hebrew which means to go over

to transcend



You are a lying cunt...

No, he is not. Ivrit is "One who crosses over". Even academic scholars acknowledge that!
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and you too are a liar...

The sixteen grandsons of Noah...

Secular history gives much evidence to show that the survivors of Noah’s Flood were real historical figures, whose names were indelibly carved on much of the ancient world …

#

People in various areas called themselves by the name of the man who was their common ancestor.
#

They called their land, and often their major city and major river, by his name.

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All of this means that the evidence has been preserved in a way that can never be lost, and all the ingenuity of man cannot erase.

[link to jahtruth.net]

[link to thebrancheastside.org]

as i said... jews are the false Prophet of the Revelations..
"They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!"

"The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!"

Blackbeard The Pirate
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People in various areas called themselves by the name of the man who was their common ancestor.
#

They called their land, and often their major city and major river, by his name.

 Quoting: Gogh


You seem to forget that, contrary to waht is the common practice in the modern West, names of people had a meaning. They signify things or actions!

Why are you so offensive? You really should ask yourself this question!
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It not fiction

Its not written by a Human





 Quoting: THE ANSWER 917119


I believe it maybe a subset of the first language that everyone understood. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

There are still great mysteries to be discovered despite our prideful technical progress. Let us all hope human kind survives the infighting and progresses to wonder and discover our place in creation.

I hope we as a species learn to control our base beastly instincts and emulate a more noble goal, to observe the creation around us and be good stewards in all respects.

[link to www.meru.org]

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I hope we as a species learn to control our base beastly instincts and emulate a more noble goal, to observe the creation around us and be good stewards in all respects.

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Amen!
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People in various areas called themselves by the name of the man who was their common ancestor.
#

They called their land, and often their major city and major river, by his name.



You seem to forget that, contrary to waht is the common practice in the modern West, names of people had a meaning. They signify things or actions!

Why are you so offensive? You really should ask yourself this question!
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Because of that what cometh out your mouth... it stinks

The root "Eber" [or "Iber" or "Heber"] is frequently found in the Celtic nomenclature of these areas. Irish and Scottish mythology says that Galatae who settled in Gaul and the British Isles arrived via Spain and called themselves "Hiberi" or "Iberi," and are so named on Ptolemy’s map of Britain.

Now It's you who seems to forget that the holy land for the Phoenicians, Greeks and Roman was located at the Pillars of Hercules...

Sir Francis Bacon's Novum Organum

The Pillars appear prominently on the engraved title page of Sir Francis Bacon's Instauratio Magna ("Great Renewal"), 1620, the foreword to his Novum Organum. The motto along the base offers the optimistic promise Multi pertransibunt et augebitur scientia ("Many will pass through and knowledge will be the greater"

The Pillars of Hercules(Moses), in Homer's legend, were the two pillars on which Heracles, the original Greek form of the Roman mythical Hercules, mythically, fictitiously, pressed to separate Europe from Africa, and are today accepted as being two mountains at the mouth of the Mediterranean, where it meets the Atlantic Ocean, namely one on either side of the Straits of Gibraltar. (This is perhaps a Greek repetition of the Story of Sampson in Middle Eastern mythology, who was said to have brought down the building he was in by separating and shearing two of its columns.) Another myth concerns Hercules' theft of the Golden Apples, placing the giant, Atlas, and his task of supporting the weight of the world, at the "Pillars of Hercules".

The "Danous" people that came to Greece are thought to be the Israelitish movement after Moses' relocation efforts. Golden images and relics make connections back to the peoples who were on the move after the Exodus. The tribe of Dan was always in motion. Dr. Herman Hoeh, an expert on legends concerning this time, talked about how Moses sons, having lost a real place at the table because Brother Aaron's children became the Aaronic priesthood, took a trip out of the area of the Holy Land
, around the Pillars of Hercules to the Ancient Land of Ireland. The "Cohan" (priesthood and name of Moses kids) is a familiar Irish name.


And False Prophets??? what do you have say this time...
"They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!"

"The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!"

Blackbeard The Pirate
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Because of that what cometh out your mouth... it stinks

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Why are you so offensive? You really should ask yourself this question!

The root "Eber" [or "Iber" or "Heber"] is frequently found in the Celtic nomenclature of these areas. Irish and Scottish mythology says that Galatae who settled in Gaul and the British Isles arrived via Spain and called themselves "Hiberi" or "Iberi," and are so named on Ptolemy’s map of Britain.

 Quoting: Gogh


Yes, I know all of that! I just can't see how it is in contradiction with what the OP said! It is NOT!

I don't wish to maintain a dialogue with you anymore. It seems to me that you are controlled by your ego and ego-driven in your way of addressing other people. I don't even see why you bother writing to others! Talk to yourself!
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Bacon was not a christian. He had nothing to do with authoring the bible.

Lamp in the Dark is a new film that covers the history of the bible. King James was a Protestant (real one) who the Jesuits tried to kill with the gunpowder plot.
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2 Tim.3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

Jer.1:9 "Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said to me, Behold, I have put my words in your mouth."

Amos 3:7 "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."

John 14:29 "And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe."

2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

Hebrews 1:1,2 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, Has in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"

Isaiah 46:9 "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done..."
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This sounds like the story of the 1998 film "PI"

[link to www.imdb.com]
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Damn right OP, it was written by jewish fucks!! A+
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Damn right OP, it was written by jewish fucks!! A+
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Wow! You must be a very "nice" person! I am glad I never met you personally!
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Re: "concrete" proof the Bible was not written by humans
It's true... OP, your evidence is more indicitive that humans DID write the bible... humans are notorious for setting patterns and assigning hidden meaning.

Are you saying OP that humans couldn't set patterns in the text in this way?
I mean... you found them, and YOU'RE only human... get it?

To tell you the truth, I'd be a lot more inclined to believe a GOD wrote the bible if every copy glowed with blue light whenever you opened it or a loud ethereal voice read the text for you... or the letters burned with sacred fire... or anything which indicated an origin other then merely human.

You have nothing.
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+1

I so love the Irish!
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It seems like alot of people would rather

hate Jews

than learn anything
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What? Where is the anti-semitic post in this thread? Did I miss it? Who said anything negative about Jews? Becase one questions the authorship of the Old Testament does not mean one is anti-semitic.

If I'm wrong here please point me to the "hater" post.
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It's survived so long because there's other information higher up in the hierarchy.

Other teachings reserved for the select few...Teachings on how to amass power.

The powerful have perpetuated the system.

The old testament is what the lowest levels of the hierarchy are programed with...

The LORD created the rule to not kill to protect the powerful from those at the bottom that the power is being sucked from.

Human beings have no power to make or break LAW

All that Human beings can do is make and break rules and call the rules LAW.

If the Rule attempts to break LAW...LAW will break the rule.

If it can be broken...It's a man made rule.

GOD did not create the rule to not kill

Those that are trying to avoid the consequences of their actions created that rule.

GOD has no beginning or end.

Time is irrelevant.

GOD has no need to write anything.

Men do.

The top or powerful taught you all how to read, write, figure math, and how to think

GOD has no need to do any of the things you all think GOD is doing or has done.

Those at the top of the hierarchy do though.

It's survived so long because there's other information higher up in the hierarchy.

Other teachings reserved for the select few...Teachings on how to amass power.

The powerful have perpetuated the system.

They amass power that the bottom is manipulated into supplying to them and then use that power to employ you all to construct and perpetuate the system

That's why it's survived so long.

You are all dreaming you are awake and fight to the day you die trying to remain that way.

The entirety of recorded Human history is insignificant to that which has no beginning and no end.

The just think positive ignore the negative religion.

That is the religion the top created for the bottom.

The Just embrace fantasy reject reality equation.

The embrace lies and delusions reject Truth equation at the core of the drone reasoning algorithm.

Other teachings reserved for the select few...Teachings on how to amass power.

But they can be discovered...because that's all they are...discoveries.

GOD is Truth and Truth is GOD

The embrace the LORD reject GOD equation.

The LORD of the hierarchy.

Not GOD

You all run in terror from Truth.

You all run in terror from that which you are going to inevitably smash into.

You all run in terror from Truth into the comforting embrace of lies and delusions.

A delusion is a lie you tell to yourself and if you fall in love with it...you cherish it.

You all will fight to the death to protect that which you cherish.

This 6000 year old system you all have fallen in love with is designed to fight GOD.

It is a lie designed to suck power from the bottom to the top to sustain the lie's war against Truth

Truth is the source of all power and when the lie requires infinite power...the only source is Truth and once the lie requires Truth to sustain it's continued existence...that is revelation and the lie then self destructs.

It's why the global system is collapsing...It's a lie you are all powering that requires infinite power to sustain it's continued existence...It requires Truth.

Truth destroys lies and shatters delusions.

To defeat GOD requires greater than infinite power.

There never was...and never will be any power greater than power that has no beginning or end.

There is never a lasting victory over the lies and the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always end in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over the LORD and the WAR against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

But the devout worshipers of the just think positive ignore the negative religion keep telling me.

If at first you don't succeed...try try again.

You have been try try trying again to defeat Truth for all of recorded history...6000+ years.

You all don't come here in search of Truth...You all come here seeking support for or to promote your cherished delusions.
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What? Where is the anti-semitic post in this thread? Did I miss it? Who said anything negative about Jews? Becase one questions the authorship of the Old Testament does not mean one is anti-semitic.

If I'm wrong here please point me to the "hater" post.
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Some guy called the OP "a stupid cunt".
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What? Where is the anti-semitic post in this thread? Did I miss it? Who said anything negative about Jews? Becase one questions the authorship of the Old Testament does not mean one is anti-semitic.

If I'm wrong here please point me to the "hater" post.


Some guy called the OP "a stupid cunt".
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I correct: he called him "a lying cunt" and specifically referred to Jews as a whole as "false prophets".
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In sum, the OP was right in what he said and his only error, perhaps, was bringing this kind of subject to a place like this, to be exposed before haters and fools.

Some things must be protected from such exposition.
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Bacon was not a christian. He had nothing to do with authoring the bible.

Lamp in the Dark is a new film that covers the history of the bible. King James was a Protestant (real one) who the Jesuits tried to kill with the gunpowder plot.
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I agree... King James never was friend of the pope and his warriors, the jesuits. King James was befriend with Moors from who he received the Baraka and so could unit England and conquer the world...

The Baraka/Blessing of King James was the rule over the world... but only for 400 years, while the Light people(Landaluci/Moorish Saints) were under bondage for 400 years...

when King James VI acceded to the throne of England and united the kingdoms in 1603 who normaly were indenpdant nation.

"On 6 April 1320, an extraordinary document -- the so-called Declaration of Arbroath -- was issued. It took the form of a letter commissioned and signed by eight earls and thirty-one other nobles, including representatives of the Seton, Sinclair and Graham families. This letter adumbrated the legendary history of the Scots from their alleged origins in Scythia and their conversion there by St Andrew. It described Robert Bruce as their deliverer and hailed him (with biblical comparisons traditionally dear to the Templars) as 'a second Maccabaeus aka Mèçabâh/Mesbahi/Light'. . ." [p. 38] In 1320 the Declaration of Arbroath proclaimed the independence of Scotland, insinuating that the Scots were descended from the Israelites...

Jamestown was America’s first English Colony and it was named after Queen Elizabeth’s forefather, King James I. It was King James who authorized English subjects to establish Jamestown and who was ultimately responsible for allowing the colonists to introduce slavery into Jamestown.

Therefore, it is significant that Queen Elizabeth, as an English monarch and as a direct descendent of King James, acknowledged the wrongs of slavery as part of America’s 400th year celebration of the founding of Jamestown.


Genesis 22 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply they seed as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is upon the shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies.

As Abraham’s “Spiritual” Offspring we are to Possess the Gates of the Enemy – Genesis 22:17

Moreover, 400 years is a Biblical time for the sins of a nation to reach its fullness. (Genesis 15:13-16) Therefore, the timing of this acknowledgement by Queen Elizabeth on the 400th anniversary of Jamestown is quite significant. The Biblical meaning of 400 years is explained... “God’s Timing and 400 Years.”
"They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!"

"The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!"

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