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A 9/11 MOLE?!!

 
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04/22/2005 09:34 PM
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General Pace, who has been vice chairman since late 2001, was recommended by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs is the main military adviser to the president and the defense secretary. He does not have direct command over any forces.

General Pace is a graduate of the Naval Academy. Born in Brooklyn and reared in Teaneck, N.J., he led a rifle platoon during the Vietnam War. He is known in the Pentagon as "Perfect Pete," for his good looks and military bearing.

The general also served in Somalia during the ill-fated American intervention there in the early 1990´s and commanded American troops in Latin America until he was tapped as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs after(sic.) before the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

President Bush nominated Adm. Edmund P. Giambastiani Jr. of the Navy to replace General Pace as vice chairman. Admiral Giambastiani was Mr. Rumsfeld´s top military aide until 2002, when he took over the military´s Joint Forces Command, where he focused on making the military more efficient and agile.
Pace, who went on to graduate from the U.S. Naval Academy and serve as an officer during the Vietnam War, is the second-highest ranking military officer in the country after Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, who is chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
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President Bush appointed the pair to their positions about six weeks before Sept. 11, 2001.
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PRESIDENTIAL PRAYER
REQUESTS FOR
APRIL 1, 2004

ADDITIONAL LEADERS TO
PRAY FOR THIS WEEK

Secretary of Defense--Donald Rumsfeld

Deputy Secretary of Defense--
Paul Wolfowitz

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--
Gen. Richard B. Myers

Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--Gen. Peter Pace




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The Bush administration has appointed a Cuban-American Army
colonel from Miami to handle the Cuba portfolio at the White
House´s National Security Council, the second Cuba native to
be put at the helm of U.S. policy toward the island.

Emilio Gonzalez, NSC Western Hemisphere director for the
Caribbean and Central America, and Otto Reich, assistant
secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs, now
handle the day-to-day development of policy on Cuba.

Gonzalez, 45, was appointed Jan. 7 as one of five regional
directors under NSC senior Western affairs director John
Maisto, a State Department veteran who has served as
ambassador to Venezuela and Nicaragua.

Accustomed to working behind the scenes as a top aide to the
last two commanders of the Miami-based U.S. Southern
Command, Gonzalez declined comment for this article.

Gonzalez joined Reich and Housing and Urban Development
Secretary Mel Martinez, former chairman of the Orange County
government, as Cuban Americans serving in prominent
positions within the Bush administration.

Gonzalez served as assistant U.S. Army attache at the U.S.
Embassy in El Salvador in the early 1980s, when Marxist
guerrillas were waging a bloody battle to topple the
authoritarian government.

After finishing his Ph.D., he taught Latin American studies
and Spanish for one year at West Point and later became Army
special assistant to SouthCom commander Gen. Charles
Wilhelm. He stayed on when Gen. Peter Pace replaced Wilhelm
in September 2000.

He last served at the Miami-based U.S. Southern Command as
director of Pace´s special-assistance office, his ``kitchen
cabinet,´´ until Pace was promoted to vice chairman of the
joint chiefs of staff.




``Emilio´s expertise in this area is superior, and the NSC
team will benefit greatly from it,´´ Pace said. ``I always
found his counsel and advice invaluable.´´

Asked for his photograph, a SouthCom spokesman said
Gonzalez´s file did not include one ``for security
reasons.´´ The colonel often acted as an advance man for
Wilhelm and Pace in sensitive countries.

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New Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman nominated:
August 24,2001

WASHINGTON, D.C. (American Forces Press Service) - President Bush announced his nominations of Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers to become the 15th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace to be vice chairman.

Myers has been vice chairman since March 2000.

He was a fighter pilot in Vietnam, is a former commander of U.S. Space Command, and was the assistant to former Chairman Army Gen. John Shalikashvili.

The current chairman, Army Gen. Henry H. Shelton, is slated to retire Sept. 30.

Pace would be the first Marine to serve as vice chairman.

He currently commands U.S. Southern Command in Miami, and is a former deputy commander of U.S. Forces Japan.
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August 24,2001
PBS Online Newshour Interview:

ELIZABETH FARNSWORTH: Finally, George Wilson, very briefly, the president also named Marine General Peter Pace as the new vice chairman. Do you see any significance, or what is the significance you see there?

GEORGE WILSON: I think it´s a good idea because it provides balance. Here you have a chairman who is associated with the wild blue yonder, Space Command, Air Force, then you have a down and dirty Marine General who comes from a tradition of getting ready to fight in the cities, which is the most dangerous warfare there is, and also the 911 service. So I think that was a good balance.
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>>a down and dirty Marine General who comes from a tradition of getting ready to fight in the cities<<

WHOSE cities?
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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THE TRANSCRIPT JUST ABOVE IS FROM AUGUST 2001 AIRED ON PBS AND RECORDED THEN. WHAT IS THE REFERENCE TO "THE 911 SERVICE"???? AND PACE´S ROLE IN IT???
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Bump for releveance.
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Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--
Gen. Richard B. Myers

Funny how his Norad command was in charge that fatefull day, traitor to his uniform and country. Maybe there is something here I´m missing, you help kill thousands and you get promoted. you say to the contrary and you get sacked.
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Giambastiani

Bet it´s a bitch fitting that one a uniform name plate.
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GEORGE WILSON: I think it´s a good idea because it provides balance. Here you have a chairman who is associated with the wild blue yonder, Space Command, Air Force, then you have a down and dirty Marine General who comes from a tradition of getting ready to fight in the cities, which is the most dangerous warfare there is, and also the 911 service. So I think that was a good balance.
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PBS Newshour Interview
September 12, 2001
(note his comments about debris)
Gwen Ifill talks with George Wilson, military columnist for The National Journal and former Pentagon reporter for The Washington Post, about the bombing aftermath at the Pentagon and recovery efforts under way there.
GWEN IFILL: For that assessment, we´re joined by George Wilson, military columnist for the National Journal, and former Pentagon reporter for the Washington Post.

George, have you been over to the Pentagon in the last day and seen what it´s like there?

GEORGE WILSON: Yes. I was there this morning, and it was still smoking. And the scene was very somber, very sad. There was a lone American flag flying on the roof where the west side of the building had been devastated by that airliner. The whole face was charred and a big gap was in the building, and there were cranes there ready to put engineers on the roof so they could assess where the damage occurred and what the structural problems were. And there were tents outside in the parking lot to tend to the stricken and also to give some meals to the construction workers.

GWEN IFILL: You mention that it´s still smoking. Our offices are not so very far from the Pentagon, and we can step outside and still smell the smoke. Why are the fires still burning, if that´s what´s happening?

GEORGE WILSON: Well, as of late this morning, it was smoking, and one of the policemen who said, "you can´t go in there now because the fires have just restarted." It´s kind of a honeycomb structure and it has various cells all along these corridors. So I suspect that there´s little scattered fires that you just can´t attack as one solid mass. But I have to add that late this afternoon when I went by, there was no more smoke coming out and the fire was indeed finally out.

GWEN IFILL: So when you talk about the honeycomb structure, when we think about the Pentagon, we know it´s five-sided, but unless you fly over it-- like a lot of people do, landing in Washington-- there are five hallways, corridors that go around in kind of a...

GEORGE WILSON: Right. There´s concentric corridors, just figure like a set of donuts, each one smaller than the one behind it. And so a fireman would have to weave his way through these corridors into these various separated hallways, and it would be a slow-moving process. And besides that, a good many of the doors in the Pentagon have combination locks on them. So a fireman couldn´t just bang open a door and go in there with a foam or hose. He´d have to either knock down the door or know the combination, and I suspect there was a lot of fire axes at work.

GWEN IFILL: So where did this plane actually impact?

GEORGE WILSON: It impacted in the west face of the Pentagon, which is where the helicopters that take the generals and executives of the Pentagon in and out. And it hit at the lower level, so that all five stories were smashed. And, of course, the big damage was done by the fuel. It was, in effect, a very effective bomb and it hit smack into the face, and it took some pretty good flying to be that precise.

GWEN IFILL: Who works in that area of the Pentagon?

GEORGE WILSON: It´s mostly Army people. That´s an Army side of the Pentagon. But the good news is that because much of that face of the building was under renovation, some of it had already been renovated, and it had glass which was plasticized, so that it didn´t shatter and scatter and hurt people, and also because there were renovations ongoing, several of the offices were unoccupied. So the casualties were less than they would have been if they´d hit, say, another face of the building.

GWEN IFILL: Was there any sign of the plane that hit the building left in the wreckage that you could see?

GEORGE WILSON: I could not see it, which amazed me because I thought that big a plane, I could spot some pieces of the wreckage. But I suspect it´s buried in the rubble, or, from that distance that they let you go to, which is on the perimeter, maybe it wasn´t visible. But it was surprising that there was a hole there, as opposed to a splattering of parts on the concrete face of the building.

GWEN IFILL: Now we can only assume that the Pentagon still remains ground zero for whatever retaliatory response the U.S. is planning. You´ve been doing some reporting on that; what have you heard?

GEORGE WILSON: Well, that it´s not going to be just a single strike -- that this is going to be a long war-- and they´re using the term "war," if you notice, more and more. And it´s kind of the "who, what, when and where," and as soon as that is determined, there will be strikes. And eventually, given the President´s words and the military planners´ words, if you´re harboring a terrorist, a known terrorist, and you will not give him up to us, there is certainly a lot of sentiment for inflicting some real hurt on that country.

GWEN IFILL: The folks you´ve talked to who work at the Pentagon, have they gotten over the shock of this?

GEORGE WILSON: No. It´s a very... People go back and forth to work, but it´s a very sober kind of movement. It´s almost like they´re a little bit shell-shocked, and understandably so. One Air Force officer told me this morning that he was on the entire other side of the building, but the impact was such that it shook the whole building. He couldn´t believe that a structure that solid and that built like a fortress could be shaken by such an attack.

GWEN IFILL: Thank you, George Wilson.
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The portion of the Pentagon that was struck held the Office of Naval Intelligence, the most independent of all the intelligence agencies. They are quite aware of and often opposed to much of the shenanigans currently going on.
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DO YOU ALREADY FORGOT THE INTIMIDATION REPRESENTED BY THE F-14 DELIBERATELY FIRING ON A SCHOOL IN NJ? EH? DID YOU ALREADY FORGOT THAT?
IT WAS ANOTHER CODED MESSAGE...
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Wilson misspoke when he claimed the Wing was Army.
Did he know or was he blowing smoke? He was the Defense Department Correspondant for the Washington Post from 1966=1991.You would think he would have known the building by 2001?
Give him credit as a mole himself entwined with
military sponsors.
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Dayton: FAA, NORAD hid 9/11 failures

By Greg Gordon, Star Tribune Washington Bureau Correspondent

July 31, 2004

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Sen. Mark Dayton, D-Minn., charged Friday that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) have covered up "catastrophic failures" that left the nation vulnerable during the Sept. 11 hijackings.

"For almost three years now, NORAD officials and FAA officials have been able to hide their critical failures that left this country defenseless during two of the worst hours in our history," Dayton declared during a Senate Governmental Affairs Committee hearing.

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During the hearing, Dayton told leaders of the Sept. 11 commission, that, based on the commission´s report, a NORAD chronology made public a week after the attacks was grossly misleading. The chronology said the FAA notified the military´s emergency air command of three of the hijackings while those jetliners were still airborne. Dayton cited commission findings that the FAA failed to inform NORAD about three of the planes until after they had crashed.

And, he said, a squadron of NORAD fighter planes that was scrambled was sent east over the Atlantic Ocean and was 150 miles from Washington, D.C., when the third plane struck the Pentagon -- "farther than they were before they took off."

Dayton said NORAD officials "lied to the American people, they lied to Congress and they lied to your 9/11 commission to create a false impression of competence, communication and protection of the American people." He told Kean and Hamilton that if the commission´s report is correct, President Bush "should fire whoever at FAA, at NORAD ... betrayed their public trust by not telling us the truth."

Asked about Dayton´s allegation, a spokesman for Colorado Springs-based NORAD said, "We stand on our testimony to the commission" and declined to discuss the 2001 chronology. Erin Utzinger, a spokeswoman for Dayton, said the senator "assumes the FAA knew of NORAD´s coverup."
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Little noticed, the original story was delivered by Gen. Richard Myers, vice-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and acting chairman on the morning of Sept. 11 (when Chairman Shelton was on a transatlantic flight). Just two days after the events, Myers, an air force man who had previously headed NORAD, appeared before the Senate for hearings. These had been scheduled weeks earlier, to consider his appointment by George W. Bush as the nation´s supreme military officer. Myers told the Senate that no fighter jets were scrambled to intercept any of the 9/11 flights until after the Pentagon was struck.

The Pentagon attack occurred at 9:38 a.m., a full 1 hour 20 minutes after the first of the 9/11 flights was diverted from its designated flight path.

Myers´s statement to the Senate was incredible, given the standard U.S. air defense protocols for dealing with errant instrument flights (including off-course passenger planes). In place many years before Sept. 11, these procedures are automatic and require no special order. Within minutes after a flight ceases to respond to ground control, the FAA is expected to alert NORAD - which scrambles jet fighters to intercept the errant flight for reconnaissance purposes. These are supposed to be airborne within 10 minutes of the problem arising.

This routine was activated on at least 67 occasions in the year prior to June 1, 2001 and on 129 occasions in 2000. Exceptional as the events of 9/11 proved to be, the procedures should have also been activated automatically within minutes of each flight diversion on that day (i.e., long before anyone needed to realize that hijackers would fly multiple airliners into buildings). This did not happen.

Before Myers´s disturbing admission to the Senate received much notice, NORAD under General Ralph Eberhard effectively put the lie to his statement. A partial timeline of U.S. air defense response published by NORAD on Sept. 18, 2001 presented the times at which NORAD was alerted about each flight diversion by the FAA. NORAD claimed to have responded to the alerts by scrambling two pairs of interceptors from the air force bases in Otis, Massachussetts and Langley, Virginia. These four fighters, however, never reached any of their targets in time to intercept and survey the situation, let alone prepare for a possible shootdown.

The NORAD timeline indicated that during the crisis hours of 9/11, the FAA became increasingly slower in delivering alerts to NORAD. This seemed to shift the blame for the failed response to the FAA.

As late as May 2003, General Arnold of NORAD, sitting alongside Gen. Myers, presented a slightly revised version of NORAD´s Sept. 2001 timeline, in testimony to the Kean Commission. He revealed for the first time that NORAD was alerted about the hijacking of Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania, at 9:16 a.m., a full 47 minutes before the claimed crash time at 10:03. But he stuck to the story about the other flights; in the case of AA77 which hit the Pentagon, the alert supposedly arrived at 9:24 am.

NORAD´s story was disputed in the FAA statement of May 21, 2003. The FAA claimed that regardless of the official notification times claimed by NORAD, phone bridges were established immediately after the initial attack (at 8:46). NORAD was informed in real time throughout of all developments, including about the plane that ultimately hit the Pentagon, the FAA said.

Thus for more than a year the FAA has been in open dispute with NORAD on the issue of who informed whom and when about the Sept. 11 hijackings; unfortunately, this has never become the major media story it deserves to be.
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They are all a bunch of lyin jackels.
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911 Commission{
The Commission’s account, by popular reckoning, has made an impression with its heft, its footnotes, its portrayal of the confusion of that sobering day, its detail, its narrative finesse. Yet under the magnifying glass of David Ray Griffin, eminent theologian and author of The New Pearl Harbor (a book that explores questions that reporters, eyewitnesses, and political observers have raised about the 9/11 attacks), the report appears much shabbier. In fact, there are holes in the places where detail ought to be thickest: Is it possible that Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld has given three different stories of what he was doing the morning of September 11, and that the Commission combines two of them and ignores eyewitness reports to the contrary? Is it possible that the man in charge of the military that day, Acting Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Myers, saw the first tower hit on TV, and then went into a meeting, where he remained unaware of what was happening for the next 40 minutes? Is it possible, as the Commission reports, that the FAA did not inform military that the fourth airplane appeared to have been hijacked—contrary to both common sense and the word of FAA employees".
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Crossing the Rubicon
Simplifying the case against Dick Cheney
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9/11 War Games: The Air Force was running multiple war games on the morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA radar screens. These war games eerily mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded. The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks - who had trained their entire lives for this moment - would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney´s management.
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if moles were piloting the aircrafts it is no wonder they crashed into the two towers.

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