Anonymous Coward User ID: 857925 United States 03/16/2010 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference? OK... would you EXPERTS... please explain what's going on tomorrow and the next day, please? I got this much information... but STREAMS???
A solar wind stream is heading for Earth, and so is a coronal mass ejection (CME). Together, they add up to a geomagnetic storm alert for March 17th and 18th.
CME OR SOLAR FLARE?
People sometimes confuse CMEs with solar flares, but they are different phenomena. Solar flares are explosions on the sun that occur when energy build up around sunspots, becoming so hot -- millions of degrees Fahrenheit -- that they produce a burst of electromagnetic radiation across the entire electromagnetic spectrum, from radio waves to x-rays and gamma rays. that occur when energy build up around sunspots, becoming so hot -- millions of degrees Fahrenheit -- that they produce a burst of electromagnetic radiation across the entire electromagnetic spectrum, from radio waves to x-rays and gamma rays.
Solar flares take place in the solar corona and chromosphere, heating plasma to tens of millions of kelvins and accelerating the resulting electrons, protons and heavier ions to near the speed of light.
They produce electromagnetic radiation across the electromagnetic spectrum at all wavelengths from long-wave radio to the shortest wavelength gamma rays.
Most flares occur around sunspots, where intense magnetic fields emerge from the Sun's surface into the corona.
The energy efficiency associated with solar flares may take several hours or even days to build up, but most flares take only a matter of minutes to release their energy..
For more information about the topic Solar flare, read the full article at Wikipedia.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CMEs were once thought to be the result of solar flares, but while they sometimes accompany solar flares, there is no direct relation between the two. They occur when a large bubble of plasma escapes through a star's corona and travels through space to the earth at high speeds over the course of several hours.
If a CME collides with the earth, it can produce a geomagnetic storm, which can cause electrical power outages and damage communications satellites and electronic equipment.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Solar flares, on the other hand, affect radio communications. But... remember.. GAMMA-RAYS... oooooh soooooo DEADLY! A solar flare is a violent explosion in the Sun's atmosphere with an energy equivalent to tens of millions of hydrogen bombs. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The solar wind also carries with it the magnetic field of the Sun. This field will have either a North or South orientation. If the solar wind has energetic bursts, contracting and expanding the magnetosphere, or if the solar wind takes a southward polarization, geomagnetic storms can be expected. The southward field causes magnetic reconnection of the dayside magnetopause, rapidly injecting magnetic and particle energy into the Earth's magnetosphere.
During a geomagnetic storm, the ionosphere's F2 layer will become unstable, fragment, and may even disappear. In the northern and southern pole regions of the Earth, auroras will be observable in the sky. |
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User ID: 917296 United States 03/17/2010 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference? Just popped into say the geomagnetic storm alert is not over. It goes through today, and tomorrow. The line on the solar flare chart is picking up... NOAA chart. Posted on Spaceweather.com. Nothing major will happen (probably) but yes a geomagnetic storm can damage computers...see article. Wisegeek.com reference "what is a magnetic storm." I may unplug again. [ link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] It has been at the A flare level for awhile and line going at times going above that... as of a few min ago. [ link to www.wisegeek.com] Back soon, Spaceweather: "A coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading toward Earth and it could spark strong geomagnetic activity when it arrives on March 17th or 18th." "A solar wind stream is buffeting Earth's magnetic field." - Planetbarb Last Edited by planetbarb on 03/17/2010 09:29 AM |
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User ID: 917296 United States 03/17/2010 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference? I don't see anything on news maybe nothing will happen but on the spaceweather site there are a couple of statements... "Sunspot 1054 is slowly decaying and no longer poses a threat for strong solar flares." "A coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading toward Earth and it could spark strong geomagnetic activity when it arrives on March 17th or 18th." It says 05% chance of severe geomagnetic storm, both in the upper latitudes and mid latitudes. I suppose when you put it all together nothing major will happen but the chart bears watching through the 18th. [ link to www.spaceweather.com] Last Edited by planetbarb on 03/17/2010 09:43 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 918209 United Kingdom 03/17/2010 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference?
Here... Simple for you.. Flares arrive in around 8 minutes. CME's take 8-120 hours to arrive. Solar streams take the same time as CME's and are from a point int he sun where particles are streaming out for whatever reason at the time (several) E.g. post-CME. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 918209 United Kingdom 03/17/2010 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference? "A coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading toward Earth and it could spark strong geomagnetic activity when it arrives on March 17th or 18th." It says 05% chance of severe solar activities. [ link to www.spaceweather.com] Quoting: planetbarbThey have it pegged for a 5% chance that there will be a M-X class flare over the next 24 hours, or a large CME. A CME erupted back on the 14th march and is expected to arrive soon, can't tell the exact properties of it until about 1 hour before it hits, as it passes the ACE satellite. So for now we cannot determine the strength or impact of the storm. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 420591 United States 03/17/2010 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference? emp pulse expect a new one soon
blame it on iran or other pysops group
then blame sun if they dont set up some one for pulse emp |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 913765 United States 03/17/2010 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference?
"A coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading toward Earth and it could spark strong geomagnetic activity when it arrives on March 17th or 18th." It says 05% chance of severe solar activities. [ link to www.spaceweather.com] They have it pegged for a 5% chance that there will be a M-X class flare over the next 24 hours, or a large CME. A CME erupted back on the 14th march and is expected to arrive soon, can't tell the exact properties of it until about 1 hour before it hits, as it passes the ACE satellite. So for now we cannot determine the strength or impact of the storm. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 918209thought it already hit? |
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User ID: 914704 United States 03/17/2010 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference? The difference is big...2 marrow everybody will have a hang over 12/21/12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775612 Canada 03/17/2010 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CME OR SOLAR FLARE? Due to hit the 17th & 18th what is the difference? time to place my favorite netbook into the empty cookie tin, saved for this purpose.... |