NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! | |
Brwnstown User ID: 897397 United States 03/18/2010 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Quoting: JoPa 919515 right on pg 59 lines 21-24 of reconciliation bill. version; 21 ‘‘(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in 22 order to allow automated reconciliation with the 23 related health care payment and remittance ad24 vice; |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 919588 United States 03/18/2010 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Thanks, I was just going to pull that out and post it! Utter B.S. Quoting: BrwnstownHere's a link to a rebuttal of Judge Kithil's remarks. [link to coffeebear.net] right on pg 59 lines 21-24 of reconciliation bill. version; 21 ‘‘(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in 22 order to allow automated reconciliation with the 23 related health care payment and remittance ad24 vice; |
Brwnstown User ID: 897397 United States 03/18/2010 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Thanks, I was just going to pull that out and post it! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919588Utter B.S. Here's a link to a rebuttal of Judge Kithil's remarks. [link to coffeebear.net] right on pg 59 lines 21-24 of reconciliation bill. version; 21 ‘‘(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in 22 order to allow automated reconciliation with the 23 related health care payment and remittance ad24 vice; almost forgot the link: [link to budget.house.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 811621 United States 03/18/2010 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! "Paraphrasing" is the "art" of law so to speak (or cry)...in that great mysteries are claimed in wording you and I would see as quite obvious. That is of course why we have liars whoops lawyers....You need a LAWYER to read the deep mysteries concealed these texts. It is not "See Sally look"..whooptidoodledoo |
SilverPatriot User ID: 900688 United States 03/18/2010 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Show me the real writing and not just your paraphrased, Conservative B.S.. Quoting: Reality Is B.SWell I will not spoon feed you however I will provide two links for you to download that massive piece of crap bill for you to peruse on your own. Why to resort to belittling and insulting others for your lack of knowledge of our political system whether this is due to laziness or lack of interest in reviewing proposed laws that will severely impact your life it reflects poorly upon yourself. And you won't post the relevant text that proves what your saying because you can't. It's BS and you continue to use namecalling and ridicule to obscure that fact. Your tactics are ridiculously transparent. I corrected and updated my post it was an error and I apologize for the omissions please visit either site then type in the bill number. How stupid can you be for not knowing these basic entry points to gain relevant data concerning your government and new laws? Oh, wait go back to your Kool-Aid and ignorance we will just whistle for you when you are officially a kept pet. |
DoUCDem2? User ID: 666923 United States 03/18/2010 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Your tax dollars at work. Look how quick this brought the Obama Shills out of the woodwork. Last Edited by DoUCDem2? on 03/18/2010 08:38 PM It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brushfires in people's minds. Samuel Adams |
Cy Kotic User ID: 918771 United States 03/18/2010 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! I guess if this pig does pass, many will simply close their bank accounts and pay their bills via money orders We'll know by this sunday.. I'm just another freak in this never-ending cosmic freak show |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 900466 United States 03/18/2010 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! A judge who has experience with how legal papers, legislation and such can be vague and open to interpretation, I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a judge. The cofeebear.co rebuttal, in my estamation, has not been written by a person with such knowledge and experience, therefore I reject it, forthwith. |
Brwnstown User ID: 897397 United States 03/18/2010 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! A judge who has experience with how legal papers, legislation and such can be vague and open to interpretation, I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a judge. The cofeebear.co rebuttal, in my estamation, has not been written by a person with such knowledge and experience, therefore I reject it, forthwith. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 900466There are a lot of interesting things in this bill, and when you check them yourself it takes time sifting through the wording, Lawyer language is not black and white so it is really hard for us average Joe's to decipher this crap. But from everything I have seen the judge is right on. |
picesnator User ID: 814500 United States 03/18/2010 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! I guess if this pig does pass, many will simply close their bank accounts and pay their bills via money orders Quoting: Cy KoticWe'll know by this sunday.. there will be so many pissed off voters that this bill could lead to the destruction of the dem party..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 906710 United States 03/18/2010 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! This is pinned and still nobody has posted the text that says this. Why? Show me the fucking words or I'm not looking it up myself by the way, if you make the claim then YOU provide the evidence. Quoting: Reality Is B.SThis is the problem with with the US right now. Stupid ass Americans that cant do a little research yourself. Need to be told how to think and what to do like children. You know what don't post here anymore you dumbass. Look it up yourself! The OP did his part now you do yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 679335 United States 03/18/2010 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! common, its all about control. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 912390Controlling Bank Account Labeling you a criminal if you cant comply (and no one can) Removing guns keep reading What's in the Bill about guns? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 679335 United States 03/18/2010 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! I guess if this pig does pass, many will simply close their bank accounts and pay their bills via money orders Quoting: Cy KoticWe'll know by this sunday.. And if they pass a law that says you're required to have a checking account? |
GraftedPromise User ID: 919255 United States 03/18/2010 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! . ... glad this is pinned ... . ... hope you all share this with EVERYONE! ... . ... saw it the first time it was presented ... . ... couldn't believe what I was reading! ... . ... guess a CASH society is a good idea ... . |
Reality Is B.S User ID: 919580 United States 03/18/2010 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! This is pinned and still nobody has posted the text that says this. Why? Show me the fucking words or I'm not looking it up myself by the way, if you make the claim then YOU provide the evidence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906710This is the problem with with the US right now. Stupid ass Americans that cant do a little research yourself. Need to be told how to think and what to do like children. You know what don't post here anymore you dumbass. Look it up yourself! The OP did his part now you do yours. I've been down this road so many times with morans like you. A wild claim is made and then everyone gets all in a selfrighteious uproar. No evidence, nothing to back up the original statement. Lot's of smoke but no fire. This stupid thread is just another example. Like a bunch of vapid old women getting into a hissy fit about some rumour they heard. Posting the whole bill and sections of the bill with no explanation is not evidence. I don't disagree that this bill is terrible but stop making shit up. It only makes the opponants look like retard teabaggers or redneck idiots. Throwing more erroneous useless information into the original arguement. |
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Texas Uncensored User ID: 919606 United States 03/18/2010 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! I guess if this pig does pass, many will simply close their bank accounts and pay their bills via money orders Quoting: Cy KoticWe'll know by this sunday.. We pay all of our bills in cash or money order. Only enough in the bank to keep it open. **** PEACE **** UFO's @ [link to www.youtube.com] UFO photos & phenomena @ [link to www.picasaweb.google.com] MY GLP VIDEO CHANNEL * [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.futurequake.bravehost.com] |
Nailer45 User ID: 919576 United States 03/18/2010 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Your tax dollars at work. Look how quick this brought the Obama Shills out of the woodwork. Quoting: DoUCDem2?Tax dollars at work you say? just read the headings on the boxes and watch the numbers grow. Take a look at the medicare Liability ( bottom row about the middle) this is your great great grandchildrens Debt to pay off + Trillions more. [link to www.usdebtclock.org] Last Edited by Nailer45 on 03/18/2010 09:40 PM Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 919588 United States 03/18/2010 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! The bill is gibberish. I don't know how anyone can make heads nor tails of it. The Constitution started out with one paragraph amendments and now we have 2200 pgs of pig latin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919442Exactly, I think it could be interpreted to mean anything. It's another foot in the door, they'll change it or interpret it later to mean whatever the hell they want it to mean. |
Krow User ID: 877576 United States 03/18/2010 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! I guess if this pig does pass, many will simply close their bank accounts and pay their bills via money orders Quoting: Texas UncensoredWe'll know by this sunday.. We pay all of our bills in cash or money order. Only enough in the bank to keep it open. That is all well in good for now. When the post office begins limiting services in the near future.... "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein |
Nailer45 User ID: 919576 United States 03/18/2010 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! The bill is gibberish. I don't know how anyone can make heads nor tails of it. The Constitution started out with one paragraph amendments and now we have 2200 pgs of pig latin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919442If I remember correctly the medicare reform Bill a few years back was only 68 pages.. This 2,000 + page bill is packed full of pet projects,pork, control control control of your finances and your life. It is one big Pyramid scheme, like the one Bernie Madoff was arrested and jailed for, hmmmm I wonder if he helped obama set this up for time off his jail sentence. Last Edited by Nailer45 on 03/18/2010 09:46 PM Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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Krow User ID: 877576 United States 03/18/2010 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Don't you think everyone should be quoting and citing from the bill that is going to be voted on? I can't read the leagalise myself. but here is the link to the house website. [link to rules.house.gov] "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 811621 United States 03/18/2010 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! The bill is gibberish. I don't know how anyone can make heads nor tails of it. The Constitution started out with one paragraph amendments and now we have 2200 pgs of pig latin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919442Well, it IS a pig. |
somedude1 User ID: 898649 United States 03/18/2010 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! Read....think....understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 629392 United States 03/18/2010 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! We are watching the death of democracy this week my heart is broken I cry for our forefathers those who died on Omaha beach, or beating the red coats back, or those who fought for the freedom of slaves... all so this bunch of morons can steal us blind invade our privacy, have some fat assed government dumbshit determine when my life should end.. It is time we threw the bastards out on their asses... they are not listening its all to save BO's legacy and screw we the people! Revolution anyone????? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 807597 United States 03/18/2010 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! common, its all about control. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 679335Controlling Bank Account Labeling you a criminal if you cant comply (and no one can) Removing guns keep reading What's in the Bill about guns? Interesting... I ,too, would like to know if this is true and if it is, the exact wording they are using. I just might have to read this bs bill myself soon here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 807597 United States 03/18/2010 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEWS ALERT! - Health Care Bill Pages 58 & 59! - Gov. will have real-time access to all bank accounts!!! READ!!! From gunowners.org Restrictions upon gun owners. The Senate-passed version would allow the ATF to troll your confidential medical records in order to take guns away from potentially tens of millions of Americans. The "individual mandate" (in Sections 1501 and 1502) will make it impossible for you to keep private, medical information out of the government-controlled medical database that was created in last year's stimulus bill. [link to gunowners.org] |