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U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11

 
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All orbital simulation data comes from JPL and the US Naval observatory. Very complex and complicated mathematics. Out of reach of the ordinary mortal.
Easily manipulated.

If they say it is so... it must be so.
 Quoting: Waterbug


yet so many of us ordinary mortals figure out things like unlimited energy, or how to build the pyramids, or what the true significance of the moon's irregular tilt. We aren't dumbfounded by bullshit, really, and pay it no heed.
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All orbital simulation data comes from JPL and the US Naval observatory. Very complex and complicated mathematics. Out of reach of the ordinary mortal.
Easily manipulated.

If they say it is so... it must be so.
 Quoting: Waterbug

And sure as clock-work, comes another confused soul.



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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All orbital simulation data comes from JPL and the US Naval observatory. Very complex and complicated mathematics. Out of reach of the ordinary mortal.
Easily manipulated.

If they say it is so... it must be so.
 Quoting: Waterbug

And sure as clock-work, comes another confused soul.



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 Quoting: Hydra


Why Hydra, mr obvious? Still waiting, you poor pathetic confused soul.
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For what?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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My Picture window from the 5th floor always had it to the LEFT... and last night it was on the RIGHT?

I said something seems wrong about this.. what is going on.

I am in Florida
Intersting.. i noticed it last night myself thinking thats odd.. dont see it often up here in the NW but looked more like a solar eclipes than a new moon


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These are the first signs. On december 12 it all starts.
It will be a bitterly cold winter night in the northern hemisphere. Presumably, a very cold summer night in Australia or, by contrast, a torrid night. The wind will howl and roar. Lightning and thunderbolts of an unprecedented magnitude will strike the earth. The whole earth will shake, heavenly bodies will be disturbed – this will be the beginning of the Three Days. Every demon will be released from Hell and will be allowed to roam the earth. Terrifying apparitions will take place. Many will die from sheer fright. Fire will rain forth from the sky, all large cities will be destroyed, poisonous gases will fill the air, cries and lamentations everywhere. The unbelievers will burn in the open like withered grass. The entire earth will be afflicted. Then it will become dark for three days. On day four Justin Bieber will release his latest album....... I rest my case......
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Watch this:

The first time when we noticed the laid back crescent, the U-Moon was March 18. 2010.

On February 27, just a feew weeks before there was the 8.8 Chilean EQ, which admittedly modified Earth's rotation/orbit/wobbling, although "just a little bit". [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

What a coincidence!


wtf wtf 5a
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All orbital simulation data comes from JPL and the US Naval observatory. Very complex and complicated mathematics. Out of reach of the ordinary mortal.
Easily manipulated.

If they say it is so... it must be so.
 Quoting: Waterbug

And sure as clock-work, comes another confused soul.



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 Quoting: Hydra



I am not confused.

What is it about my statement that leads you to believe otherwise..?
Are the facts I have presented false..?
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Fuck the cold days, the lightning and thunderbolts, the "Three Days of Darkness"

but this will be real hell:

... On day four Justin Bieber will release his latest album ...
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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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"The diving tectonic plate at the epicenter of the magnitude 8.8 Chile earthquake Saturday helped to temporarily redistribute mass on Earth."
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
Is not it great? "Helped"!!! banana2

"Saturday's Chile earthquake was so powerful that it likely shifted an Earth axis and shortened the length of a day, NASA announced Monday.

By speeding up Earth's rotation, the magnitude 8.8 earthquake—the fifth strongest ever recorded, according to the USGS—should have shortened an Earth day by 1.26 millionths of a second, according to new computer-model calculations by geophysicist Richard Gross of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California."

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All orbital simulation data comes from JPL and the US Naval observatory. Very complex and complicated mathematics. Out of reach of the ordinary mortal.
Easily manipulated.

If they say it is so... it must be so.
 Quoting: Waterbug

And sure as clock-work, comes another confused soul.



.
 Quoting: Hydra



I am not confused.

What is it about my statement that leads you to believe otherwise..?
Are the facts I have presented false..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

You heavily underestimate the capabilities of amateur astronomers.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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All orbital simulation data comes from JPL and the US Naval observatory. Very complex and complicated mathematics. Out of reach of the ordinary mortal.
Easily manipulated.

If they say it is so... it must be so.
 Quoting: Waterbug

And sure as clock-work, comes another confused soul.



.
 Quoting: Hydra



I am not confused.

What is it about my statement that leads you to believe otherwise..?
Are the facts I have presented false..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

You heavily underestimate the capabilities of amateur astronomers.


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 Quoting: Hydra


No...

I merely question the sources of their data for calculation.

Do you know where they get this data..?
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All orbital simulation data comes from JPL and the US Naval observatory. Very complex and complicated mathematics. Out of reach of the ordinary mortal.
Easily manipulated.

If they say it is so... it must be so.
 Quoting: Waterbug

And sure as clock-work, comes another confused soul.



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 Quoting: Hydra



I am not confused.

What is it about my statement that leads you to believe otherwise..?
Are the facts I have presented false..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

You heavily underestimate the capabilities of amateur astronomers.


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Hydra, did you read my latest post above yours?

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This is a thread from 2010, I renewed it because now there is evidence...5a
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For 2 months the position of the shadow of the Earth on the Moon is different than before. The sliver is on the bottom, and forms a wide letter "U" instead of the usual position.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

There are many strange pics on the Moon on Spaceweather.com. More often than not, you see much more on the pics, that the written explanation. This time the Moon is not a crescent at all on the pic.

[link to spaceweather.com]

New info on page 11.
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...

And sure as clock-work, comes another confused soul.
 Quoting: Hydra

I am not confused.

What is it about my statement that leads you to believe otherwise..?
Are the facts I have presented false..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

You heavily underestimate the capabilities of amateur astronomers.
 Quoting: Hydra


No...

I merely question the sources of their data for calculation.

Do you know where they get this data..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

A wide range of data (regarding our solar system) JPL/NASA gets from amateur astronomers.
E.g. most follow up observations of new discovered asteroids and comets are made by amateurs.

Deep Sky Objeks is something different.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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wtf?
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there's some serious shit going on here
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Watch this:

The first time when we noticed the laid back crescent, the U-Moon was March 18. 2010.

On February 27, just a feew weeks before there was the 8.8 Chilean EQ, which admittedly modified Earth's rotation/orbit/wobbling, although "just a little bit". [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

What a coincidence!


wtf wtf 5a
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That is probably around the time I first noticed this phenomena.

Wondering if this has anything to do with this.
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Watch this:

The first time when we noticed the laid back crescent, the U-Moon was March 18. 2010.

On February 27, just a feew weeks before there was the 8.8 Chilean EQ, which admittedly modified Earth's rotation/orbit/wobbling, although "just a little bit". [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

What a coincidence!


wtf wtf 5a
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Hydra, did you read my latest post above yours?
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Which one do you mean? Can you quote it please?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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"The diving tectonic plate at the epicenter of the magnitude 8.8 Chile earthquake Saturday helped to temporarily redistribute mass on Earth."
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
Is not it great? "Helped"!!! banana2

"Saturday's Chile earthquake was so powerful that it likely shifted an Earth axis and shortened the length of a day, NASA announced Monday.

By speeding up Earth's rotation, the magnitude 8.8 earthquake—the fifth strongest ever recorded, according to the USGS—should have shortened an Earth day by 1.26 millionths of a second, according to new computer-model calculations by geophysicist Richard Gross of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California."
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You do realize how short "1.26 millionths of a second" is, right? You cannot detect that without sophicated equipment, and its effect on what the Moon looks like is equally insignificant.
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Hydra, did you read my latest post above yours?
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Which one do you mean? Can you quote it please?


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The one with red letters...I just re-posted it above. rockon
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"The diving tectonic plate at the epicenter of the magnitude 8.8 Chile earthquake Saturday helped to temporarily redistribute mass on Earth."
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
Is not it great? "Helped"!!! banana2

"Saturday's Chile earthquake was so powerful that it likely shifted an Earth axis and shortened the length of a day, NASA announced Monday.

By speeding up Earth's rotation, the magnitude 8.8 earthquake—the fifth strongest ever recorded, according to the USGS—should have shortened an Earth day by 1.26 millionths of a second, according to new computer-model calculations by geophysicist Richard Gross of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California."
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You do realize how short "1.26 millionths of a second" is, right? You cannot detect that without sophicated equipment, and its effect on what the Moon looks like is equally insignificant.
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Hey, I recognize you from your style...:-) anyway, I realize it is an insignificant amount - if it is correct.
Now we have something right in front of us, the laid back Moon, that we cannot ignore - you say it is normal, but a lot of us older guys say - it was not like that before.
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Thank you for the pin...I just noticed hf
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...

I am not confused.

What is it about my statement that leads you to believe otherwise..?
Are the facts I have presented false..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

You heavily underestimate the capabilities of amateur astronomers.
 Quoting: Hydra


No...

I merely question the sources of their data for calculation.

Do you know where they get this data..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

A wide range of data (regarding our solar system) JPL/NASA gets from amateur astronomers.
E.g. most follow up observations of new discovered asteroids and comets are made by amateurs.

Deep Sky Objeks is something different.


.
 Quoting: Hydra


So... these amateurs are not overwhelmed with data... but the pros are..?

[link to queue.acm.org]

[snip]

The Tsunami has Already Made Landfall

The data tsunami is already affecting the performance of astronomy archives and data centers. One example is the NASA/IPAC (Infrared Processing and Analysis Center) IRSA (Infrared Science Archive), which archives and serves data sets from NASA's infrared missions. It is going through a period of exceptional growth in its science holdings, as shown in figure 1, because it is assuming responsibility for the curation of data sets released by the Spitzer Space Telescope and WISE (Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer) mission.

The volume of these two data sets alone exceeds the total volume of the 35-plus missions and projects already archived. The availability of the data, together with rapid growth in program-based queries, has driven up usage of the archive, as shown by the annual growth in downloaded data volume and queries in figure 2. Usage is expected to accelerate as new data sets are released through the archive, yet the response times to queries have already suffered, primarily because of a growth in requests for large volumes of data.

The degradation in performance cannot be corrected simply by adding infrastructure as usage increases, as is common in commercial enterprises, because astronomy archives generally operate on limited budgets that are fixed for several years. Without intervention, the current data-access and computing model used in astronomy, in which data downloaded from archives is analyzed on local machines, will break down rapidly. The very scale of data sets such as those just described will transform the design and operation of archives as places that not only make data accessible to users, but also support in situ processing of these data with the end users' software: network bandwidth limitations prevent transfer of data on this scale, and users' desktops in any case generally lack the power to process PB-scale data.
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it's not fair to ban and think you've won.
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looks like astro hates to lose
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No, it ain't Dr. Astro style.

Probably the Korea chick typed one of the "no go" words and got autobanned.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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...

You heavily underestimate the capabilities of amateur astronomers.
 Quoting: Hydra


No...

I merely question the sources of their data for calculation.

Do you know where they get this data..?
 Quoting: Waterbug

A wide range of data (regarding our solar system) JPL/NASA gets from amateur astronomers.
E.g. most follow up observations of new discovered asteroids and comets are made by amateurs.

Deep Sky Objeks is something different.


.
 Quoting: Hydra


So... these amateurs are not overwhelmed with data... but the pros are..?

[link to queue.acm.org]

[snip]

The Tsunami has Already Made Landfall

The data tsunami is already affecting the performance of astronomy archives and data centers. One example is the NASA/IPAC (Infrared Processing and Analysis Center) IRSA (Infrared Science Archive), which archives and serves data sets from NASA's infrared missions. It is going through a period of exceptional growth in its science holdings, as shown in figure 1, because it is assuming responsibility for the curation of data sets released by the Spitzer Space Telescope and WISE (Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer) mission.

The volume of these two data sets alone exceeds the total volume of the 35-plus missions and projects already archived. The availability of the data, together with rapid growth in program-based queries, has driven up usage of the archive, as shown by the annual growth in downloaded data volume and queries in figure 2. Usage is expected to accelerate as new data sets are released through the archive, yet the response times to queries have already suffered, primarily because of a growth in requests for large volumes of data.

The degradation in performance cannot be corrected simply by adding infrastructure as usage increases, as is common in commercial enterprises, because astronomy archives generally operate on limited budgets that are fixed for several years. Without intervention, the current data-access and computing model used in astronomy, in which data downloaded from archives is analyzed on local machines, will break down rapidly. The very scale of data sets such as those just described will transform the design and operation of archives as places that not only make data accessible to users, but also support in situ processing of these data with the end users' software: network bandwidth limitations prevent transfer of data on this scale, and users' desktops in any case generally lack the power to process PB-scale data.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Different things.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Watch this:

The first time when we noticed the laid back crescent, the U-Moon was March 18. 2010.

On February 27, just a feew weeks before there was the 8.8 Chilean EQ, which admittedly modified Earth's rotation/orbit/wobbling, although "just a little bit". [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

What a coincidence!


wtf wtf 5a
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That is probably around the time I first noticed this phenomena.

Wondering if this has anything to do with this.
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Different things.


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You admit that no one person can actually say anything is different or the same, unequivocally...
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............................... to process PB-scale data.
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Can you please take this subject to a different thread? Thank you.
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