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U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11

 
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[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

What's your point? You wish to emphasize your ignorance that the tilt is dependent partly on the orbit angle (time of year) and location on Earth? Done. Yes, that shows the correct phases but it doesn't try to show nor can it, the orientation of those phases as they vary based both on time of year and location on Earth. Always have. Just because you are only noticing this now doesn't change that fact.


...sooo...in other times of the year, or other parts of the world the Moon has always been laying????

I just know the it has never been like that before. In the 70-es, 80-es lived/visited different parts of the world, watched the sky a lot and it was not like this! And lots of people I know on and off GLP says the same.
This is why I updated this thread after a month passed and ask you all to tell/show pics on what you see.
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If it is clear tonight, I'll take some pics of the Moon. I was looking at the Moon last night through my telescope(3 inch reflector)and it was an amazing image.

the only thing that I have noticed lately, and I'm not even sure if it is normal, but i have noticed that the moon is much higher in the sky, almost straight up,... near the end of march it was much lower in the sky, about half way down. This has happened once before, this year!
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Re: U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11
My argument is that nothing has changed....

But there is another pattern of the Crescent Moon we are unaware of....


What do you mean, Sugarelf?
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In layman's terms:

The crescent is the part of the moon that is not covered by the Earth's shadow, so get the Sun's light directly.

The change in the crescent's position indicates that the Sun illuminates a different part of the Moon now, the Earth castes its shadow to a different part of the Moon.

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The only way this is possible, if the relative position of the three celestial bodies have changed.
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You people are funny.

Ignorant, but funny.
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It may not be that obvious to younger people, but all those who are looking at the night sky for more that 2-3 decades tell me the same:

IT HAS NOT BEEN LIKE THAT BEFORE

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You people are funny.

Ignorant, but funny.
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I am glad to bring some humor to your life...would you please kindly elaborate?
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Re: U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11
Please check out today's Spaceweather.com:

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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It may not be that obvious to younger people, but all those who are looking at the night sky for more that 2-3 decades tell me the same:

IT HAS NOT BEEN LIKE THAT BEFORE

shocked
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I've lived for 44 years - I've never seen the moon as it was this winther...wrong angle. Now we have constant daylight - that's normal ;-), so I won't see the moon again until late autumn.
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Please check out today's Spaceweather.com:

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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What's your point? I see a very cool video showing a transit of ISS+Atlantis across the moon, nothing looks wierd about it though.

Seriously people, get some sky charting software and get informed:
[link to www.stellarium.org]

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[link to starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov]


For 2 months the position of the shadow of the Earth on the Moon is different than before. The sliver is on the bottom, and forms a wide letter "U" instead of the usual position.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

There are many strange pics on the Moon on Spaceweather.com. More often than not, you see much more on the pics, that the written explanation. This time the Moon is not a crescent at all on the pic.

[link to spaceweather.com]

Edit: I reposted this because since March the laying crescent the "U Moon" is still there.
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Don't do this Naked.
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In layman's terms:

The crescent is the part of the moon that is not covered by the Earth's shadow, so get the Sun's light directly.


The change in the crescent's position indicates that the Sun illuminates a different part of the Moon now, the Earth castes its shadow to a different part of the Moon.

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You can't be serious. You HAVE to be trolling.
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This entire thread is the equivalent of people getting freaked because they 'discover' that the sky is blue.

I'm not going to waste my breathe. Do what Astronut said.

You won't, though, because it's more fun to rpetend the sky is falling than it is to EDUCATE YOURSELVES IN THE MOST BASIC ASPECTS OF FUCKING ASTRONOMY.
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It may not be that obvious to younger people, but all those who are looking at the night sky for more that 2-3 decades tell me the same:

IT HAS NOT BEEN LIKE THAT BEFORE

shocked
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Get a copy of Stellarium, focus on the Moon and run it back as many decades as you like.
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The only way this is possible, if the relative position of the three celestial bodies have changed.
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It is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam(Commentary on the Vedanta Sutra's) that the planets float in the ethereal sky do to the composition of each. Considering that for 100 yrs man has been disturbing the 'life blood/air of the planet' in the form of pumping oil/natural gas out of the earth and transforming it into ever conceivable pollutant and various poisons their fertile Frankenstein minds could conceive(just because you 'can' do something, doesn't arbitrarily mean that you should!). It could then be concluded that the earth composition has changed(both above and below) and has moved out of it's specific orbit because of it. There by changing our view of the moon. Hello earth changes!!!!!!! Earth quakes, volcanoes, weather anomalies. It is going to be a wild ride. Already is!

And yes it has been on the fritz for 5 yrs. Just as the sun appears to rise and set to far north(Jacksonville, Fl) of East. I have full sun on the north side of my perfectly east/west oriented house. I have been watching closely for 60 yrs. My prayers and life are guided by both the moon and sun's positions in the astrological sky. But the last 6 months have been especially interesting in the way the crescent behaves before and after each of the full moon and new moon phases. Look for the crescent to be on top of the waning moon, as opposed to the bottom now.
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"It is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam(Commentary on the Vedanta Sutra's) that the planets float in the ethereal sky do to the composition of each."

It is said in introductory astronomy classes that all the above is bullshit.

News flash, Maharaja -- it's the 21st century. We have a little thing called science now. You might want to read up on it.
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"It is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam(Commentary on the Vedanta Sutra's) that the planets float in the ethereal sky do to the composition of each."

It is said in introductory astronomy classes that all the above is bullshit.

News flash, Maharaja -- it's the 21st century. We have a little thing called science now. You might want to read up on it.
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News flash agnostic, for you God will come as death. Your views are not new, in fact atheism is as old as time it's self. Get over it or stay a twit!

This thread shows that the sky no longer agrees with your lackluster scientist nor there erroneous cosmology of the heavens.

The purpose of your introduction(brainwashing) to astronomy class is to keep you a slow/sheeple like monkey. With your finger up your butt for smelling later.

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Re: U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11
In layman's terms:

The crescent is the part of the moon that is not covered by the Earth's shadow, so get the Sun's light directly.

The change in the crescent's position indicates that the Sun illuminates a different part of the Moon now, the Earth castes its shadow to a different part of the Moon.

 Quoting: emerald_glow


The crescent is the part of the moon that is not lit by the Sun (hence, in its own shadow).

The Earth casts its shadow on the Moon only during a lunar eclipse.
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Re: U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11
It may not be that obvious to younger people, but all those who are looking at the night sky for more that 2-3 decades tell me the same:

IT HAS NOT BEEN LIKE THAT BEFORE

shocked
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It's called a "wet moon"...look it up.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Just beause YOU haven't ever noticed it doesn't mean that others haven't. Don't be so arrogantly ignorant.
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This thread shows that the sky no longer agrees with your lackluster scientist nor there erroneous cosmology of the heavens.
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The thread is a fail then since the sky still agrees with our sky charts. In fact, that lunar occultation of Venus from the Philippines is a perfect example. Click on that image and see where it emerges from the limb of the moon? Guess what? Stellarium shows it emerging from the exact same place!
:venusoccultation:
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The purpose of your introduction(brainwashing) to astronomy class is to keep you a slow/sheeple like monkey. With your finger up your butt for smelling later.
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How very "enlightened" of you to speak like that. If you knew the first thing about astronomy you'd realize how very wrong your claim is that there is something wrong with the sky.
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Re: U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11
For 2 months the position of the shadow of the Earth on the Moon is different than before. The sliver is on the bottom, and forms a wide letter "U" instead of the usual position.

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There has been an lunar eclipse ongoing for 2 months? I guess i need to look up more often.
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last night I noticed it came from the east and normally it comes from the west


"Your" moon usually rises in the west?

This is why I love GLP...
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Indeed!

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Nothing weird about that.

Many farmers plant their crops depending on whether the Moon crescent points down or up, down for deep roots, up for something you do not want as deep.

been done for thousands of years.
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Re: U - moon ("laid back" crescent) shows that position of Sun Earth and Moon has changed- update 2012: PROOF!!!! on page 6, new info on page11
For 2 months the position of the shadow of the Earth on the Moon is different than before. The sliver is on the bottom, and forms a wide letter "U" instead of the usual position.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

There are many strange pics on the Moon on Spaceweather.com. More often than not, you see much more on the pics, that the written explanation. This time the Moon is not a crescent at all on the pic.

[link to spaceweather.com]

Edit: I reposted this because since March the laying crescent the "U Moon" is still there.
 Quoting: emerald_glow


Why is earthshine a big deal?

People at GLP keep posting pics like these of earthshine as if it is some kind of anomaly - it's not.
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It may not be that obvious to younger people, but all those who are looking at the night sky for more that 2-3 decades tell me the same:

IT HAS NOT BEEN LIKE THAT BEFORE

shocked


It's called a "wet moon"...look it up.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Just beause YOU haven't ever noticed it doesn't mean that others haven't. Don't be so arrogantly ignorant.
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Also called a moon "holding water". There is even a Tom Waits song with that phrase in it from "NIGHTHAWKS AT THE DINER" from somewhere around 1982 or so.

This stupid crap comes up again every year or two.
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I saw this last night.

I never knew the U shape wasn't normal - thanks OP.

Although, I did find it spectacular that you could see pretty much the whole moon while only a sliver was lite up.
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It's always amazing of how ignorant most people are of simple astronomy. And how unobservant. They see something they don't remember seeing before and think that they alone have discovered something special. There are references to a "wet moon" all through literature.
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The only way this is possible, if the relative position of the three celestial bodies have changed.



It is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam(Commentary on the Vedanta Sutra's) that the planets float in the ethereal sky do to the composition of each. Considering that for 100 yrs man has been disturbing the 'life blood/air of the planet' in the form of pumping oil/natural gas out of the earth and transforming it into ever conceivable pollutant and various poisons their fertile Frankenstein minds could conceive(just because you 'can' do something, doesn't arbitrarily mean that you should!). It could then be concluded that the earth composition has changed(both above and below) and has moved out of it's specific orbit because of it. There by changing our view of the moon. Hello earth changes!!!!!!! Earth quakes, volcanoes, weather anomalies. It is going to be a wild ride. Already is!

And yes it has been on the fritz for 5 yrs. Just as the sun appears to rise and set to far north(Jacksonville, Fl) of East. I have full sun on the north side of my perfectly east/west oriented house. I have been watching closely for 60 yrs. My prayers and life are guided by both the moon and sun's positions in the astrological sky. But the last 6 months have been especially interesting in the way the crescent behaves before and after each of the full moon and new moon phases. Look for the crescent to be on top of the waning moon, as opposed to the bottom now.
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Thank you for your insights...it is good to know that there are still people who use direct observation instead of relying simulations and man-made theories.
I noticed anomalies in sunset/sunrise times myself, you can check it out by comparison to the times here:
[link to aa.usno.navy.mil]

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