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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.
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That's a good question actually, I own a company and am holding out hiring to see what happens...

If I use your services to procure assistance, the additional burden may fall to you...


Something to think about, owners. Pass the buck....
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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.
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Staffing companies suck, or at least the ones I've dealt with.
I'm unemployed and talked with staffing companies, all of which promised they could find me work within a week, but a year later, after them selling my information, all I have is spam, spam, spam.
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Don't worry, when it passes your services won't be needed.
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.
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Oh so you are one of those fucktard evil greedy shits who makes a living, and a good one at that, off the backs of others selling people?
Who the fuck cares about your evil ass
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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.
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Really...do U have any idea how many people the staffing industry employs? I would have to raise rates if there is an additional payroll tax....our margins are pretty slim. The employee makes most the money
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.
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you can opt out of the employer plan.

i recently read that it was possible to go either way..



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Yep, they voting you right out of business.
Don't you just love those democrats?
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.



you can opt out of the employer plan.

i recently read that it was possible to go either way..



off topic= i love GLP, thank you:)
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U can opt out but I think U would have to pay a 8% payroll tax...which is cheaper than offering insurance. Most businesses will do away with health insurance and do that! This is soo bad.
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.



you can opt out of the employer plan.

i recently read that it was possible to go either way..



off topic= i love GLP, thank you:)


U can opt out but I think U would have to pay a 8% payroll tax...which is cheaper than offering insurance. Most businesses will do away with health insurance and do that! This is soo bad.
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There is no "Employer plan" unless you have a current insurance program that you deal with. There is a fine you pay per employee that you don't cover, so you either cover em, or pay a fine which is based on the income of the employess. I believe the scales are in several threads here.

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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.
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You are so screwed. Unless you can figure out a way to offer a health care plan for those temps (impossible), it's 8% on payroll for you!
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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.
 Quoting: Traveler


i have believed this since the so called stimulas bill that was suppose to create jobs. Obama and the progressives are purposely trying to collapse this country to get even more control in crisis/ this i am now sure of.
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.
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they likely pay their own health care as contractors. it will be on their tax bill. no worries.
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.


It depends on if you have "friends" in high places. Now, if you have any negro employees, you better promote them to management and start specializing in "green job" bullshit as soon as you read this message.

And if you don't have any blessed negros, YOU BETTER GET SOME FAST, BOY! chuckle Those negros are going to be your only way out of "visible minority" laws contained in the health care bill, and your tax exemptions may depend on how many "bruthas" are employed by you and how much more they make than whitey. Oh, and they MUST NOT have ANY EXPERIENCE in the job that hires them, otherwise it's not clear that you have "your mind right" with boss Obama.

And for heaven's sake, if an Obama official comes to call, look at the floor the whole time, say "yesum" and "nosuh" and keep the "masssas" down to a minimum. They can SMELL a smart-ass businessman with a sense of humor, who's secretly making a PROFIT! goaway
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It would be funny if it wasnt true. There is things in this bill that are going to cause social caos and violence i'm afraid
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sounds like you will be paying some fines!
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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.


Really...do U have any idea how many people the staffing industry employs? I would have to raise rates if there is an additional payroll tax....our margins are pretty slim. The employee makes most the money
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The employee does all the work. You get your vig every time they get paid. It's like selling insurance. You work to get somebody to buy a policy, then you sit back and collect your commission every time they make a payment. You're a fucking USER.
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.
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They're not "stupid".

Dems do not want any jobs outside of huge stock-exchange traded Corporations. The rest of us get to be controlled by .gov in their welfare state.

Learned this while watching the Majority Dems in Congress bail Wall Street left and right, while the Repubs voted NO on same, since '07.

They knew they were killing smaller job-makers, all to keep their Wall Street Biggies afloat. And they bailed with GLEE and GUSTO, at the expense of the rest of us.

Needless to say, after 35+ years of voting Dem, I will NEVER EVER vote Dem again.

They are Wall Street /Big Business Whores, to a person.

Trully amazing that they got away with painting Repubs as the Big Money pigs all this time. Pays to have a gullible public and Big Media on your side .

Good luck to you and your business.
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I would switch to undertaker business if I were you.
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OP, you've misspelled Obama'scare.
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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.


i have believed this since the so called stimulas bill that was suppose to create jobs. Obama and the progressives are purposely trying to collapse this country to get even more control in crisis/ this i am now sure of.
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It started before that. Remember the banker bailout that went through against the people's wishes. That was when Bush was in office and he and his minions pushed for it. The big O just continues the games.
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people who opened business playing by there rules deserve this. in the beggining it was ok though lol.
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I own a staffing company...how will this affect my industry? We have people that come and work for us for just a week...they have to have healthcare? Can't find a straight answer on this. Or do we have to pay 8% on our payroll....this is so bad for jobs and the economy...I can't believe they are so stupid.
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Great question...I've used staffing companies in the past. Maybe the customer who uses the temp manpower would be responsible?..either way small companies will take a hit
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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.


i have believed this since the so called stimulas bill that was suppose to create jobs. Obama and the progressives are purposely trying to collapse this country to get even more control in crisis/ this i am now sure of.


It started before that. Remember the banker bailout that went through against the people's wishes. That was when Bush was in office and he and his minions pushed for it. The big O just continues the games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 378959


Not true. It was the Dems in Congress who voted for these bailouts. 99.9999% Dem and 25% Repubs.

Go back and look at the votes.

The only reasons they are considered "Republican" is because:

1) the Prez was a Republican
2) Americans do not pay attention to Congressional Votes, even tho that's how EVERYTHING passes or does not pass.

The Banker and Wall Street bailouts were a Democratic Party thing, passed wholly by dems, while a Republican was President.

What we are seeing now is a continuation of the Dem Party catering to Big Money interests, as they have since '07 when they first gained controll of Congress.
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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.
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BINGO!!!!


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Its hard for me to believe this but I do think there are elements which are purposely trying to destroy the America we have known.


i have believed this since the so called stimulas bill that was suppose to create jobs. Obama and the progressives are purposely trying to collapse this country to get even more control in crisis/ this i am now sure of.


It started before that. Remember the banker bailout that went through against the people's wishes. That was when Bush was in office and he and his minions pushed for it. The big O just continues the games.


Not true. It was the Dems in Congress who voted for these bailouts. 99.9999% Dem and 25% Repubs.

Go back and look at the votes.

The only reasons they are considered "Republican" is because:

1) the Prez was a Republican
2) Americans do not pay attention to Congressional Votes, even tho that's how EVERYTHING passes or does not pass.

The Banker and Wall Street bailouts were a Democratic Party thing, passed wholly by dems, while a Republican was President.

What we are seeing now is a continuation of the Dem Party catering to Big Money interests, as they have since '07 when they first gained controll of Congress.
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Then why were Bush and Paulson pushing for it?
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I work for a temp service and they arent exactly evil. My staffing service has been good to me. The reason companies use them is because they are cheaper than using their own HR departments. Why keep hiring and training degenerates when you can have a cheap revolving door and at one point find an employee who appreciates the job?
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Oh yeah, how will this affect me, the temp worker? I was told that my parent company wont hire temps so that they dont have to pay healthcare. Is this good for me or should I expect to get axed?
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Invacare has said that if this passes, their taxes will exceed earnings. They will probably move off shore. And all the rest who make medical equipment will also leave in order to stay competitive.
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Do you staff hospitals with doctors from India willing to work for 20 dollars US an hour?

I bet you don't yet see that 'market'. Look closer.

Pretty soon it'll be doctors calling the staffing agencies needing jobs, so they can be doctors again, but at staffing wages! lol

The asian doctor can run the new surgery robot just as well. Well, I am guessing.
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It started before that. Remember the banker bailout that went through against the people's wishes. That was when Bush was in office and he and his minions pushed for it. The big O just continues the games.

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Not true. It was the Dems in Congress who voted for these bailouts. 99.9999% Dem and 25% Repubs.

Go back and look at the votes.

The only reasons they are considered "Republican" is because:

1) the Prez was a Republican
2) Americans do not pay attention to Congressional Votes, even tho that's how EVERYTHING passes or does not pass.

The Banker and Wall Street bailouts were a Democratic Party thing, passed wholly by dems, while a Republican was President.

What we are seeing now is a continuation of the Dem Party catering to Big Money interests, as they have since '07 when they first gained controll of Congress.

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Then why were Bush and Paulson pushing for it?
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Bush himself never pushed for it. He said : "Wall Street played and now Wall Street's got to pay".

Paulson, as an ex- Goldman Sachs CEO, pushed for it. But the people who got out in front on all the Bailouts were the Dem reps on the Senate Banking Committee: Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Chuck Schumer. They were the movers and shakers. However, the Dems in Congress, curiously (to me at the time as a Dem Voter), did not need any convincing. It was VERY EASY to get them to agree.

Like I said, it's almost like they were HAPPY to bail out the folks who'd ruined our economy. Nancy Pelosi was positively GIDDY with every succesful Bailout announcement after the votes.

The Congressional Repubs, by and large voted and spoke out eloquently against all of these Bailouts but, unfortunately for us, their numbers were too small and the Dem majority was too large. They also had the 25% RINOs who voted with the Dems.


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