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Voyager Data May Reveal Trajectory Of Solar System; Possible Presence Of Companion StarScienceDaily (May 31, 2006)
— Nearly 30 years after launch, the two Voyager spacecraft are still operational and returning useful data. In their early years they produced some of the first close up images of the large outer planets. Now as the two vehicles, flying in slightly different directions, near the edge of the solar system, they are providing clues on the shape of heliosphere, and quite possibly, the direction of the solar system through local space.

The heliosphere, generated by the Sun, is sort of the cocoon in which the solar system rides. It has been suspected for several years that it is not spherical but more egg shaped. Voyager 1 recently reached one edge and it is estimated it will pass into interstellar space at about 12.4 billion miles from the Sun. It was recently announced that Voyager 2 has reached its more southerly edge, sooner than expected. It is now believed it will reach interstellar space at about 10.5 billion miles. This reveals that the heliosphere is not a sphere after all, but is more of a comet shape.

According to Cal Tech's Ed Stone, the former director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and a Voyager chief scientist, the shape of the bubble is determined by what is pressing on the solar system from the outside, meaning the shape and force of interstellar gases. That is one explanation. Another put forth by Walter Cruttenden of the Binary Research Institute is that local gases are fairly uniform and the shape derives from the trajectory of the solar system through local space -- possibly in its orbit around a companion star. While this latter explanation is far more speculative, it is not unlikely that local interstellar gases are relatively homogeneous and therefore the shape of the heliosphere may be at least partially due to motion of the solar system.

Voyager 1 and 2 are expected to remain active for several more decades. In that time we should gain a better understanding of the motion of the solar system and its surrounding neighborhood.
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Can you feel that they are getting ready for a HUGE announcement?

All these little stories means they are getting ready to reveal that they found it and it's coming to kill us.
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It's out there... they know it's out there and where it is headed... they are just building up the release language to get everyone mentally prepared...
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I was a strong disbeliever in anything related to Planet X, or a companion star to our sun, or anything like that...

Until I researched the magnetic ribbon and found all these research papers and scientists saying that the most likely cause for certain strange behaviors in our system, is that our solar system is a binary star system.

The reason I had always disbelieved this theory is that I didn't think of our second star being a 'cold' star, and that it would be nearly impossible to 'see' unless you had an infrared telescope pointing at the exact location of the cold star, AND it would have to be close. I alwayd thought it would be a 'star', you know, bright and luminous.

Now, I look at this idea as making more sense than not. My change in mind comes not from just wanting to believe it, but because of all the research I've looked at recently, along with certain activities appearing lately on our sun... activities that are 'extremely' rare, but are happening every other week.

I feel we are at the cusp of great changes.
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I was a strong disbeliever in anything related to Planet X, or a companion star to our sun, or anything like that...

Until I researched the magnetic ribbon and found all these research papers and scientists saying that the most likely cause for certain strange behaviors in our system, is that our solar system is a binary star system.

The reason I had always disbelieved this theory is that I didn't think of our second star being a 'cold' star, and that it would be nearly impossible to 'see' unless you had an infrared telescope pointing at the exact location of the cold star, AND it would have to be close. I alwayd thought it would be a 'star', you know, bright and luminous.

Now, I look at this idea as making more sense than not. My change in mind comes not from just wanting to believe it, but because of all the research I've looked at recently, along with certain activities appearing lately on our sun... activities that are 'extremely' rare, but are happening every other week.

I feel we are at the cusp of great changes.
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our binary twins farthest flung planet is now sitting semi- cloaked at about half an AU from our lovely blue planet. we have a loaded gun pointed directly at the collective head of mankind. there is not so much things to believe or not believe. It is simply there. When it decides to go on its inbound run at its average stellar speed of 33,000 miles per hour it will be here in 40 days.

tptb know, NASA knows, intelligent free men know. thats about all.
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I was a strong disbeliever in anything related to Planet X, or a companion star to our sun, or anything like that...

Until I researched the magnetic ribbon and found all these research papers and scientists saying that the most likely cause for certain strange behaviors in our system, is that our solar system is a binary star system.

The reason I had always disbelieved this theory is that I didn't think of our second star being a 'cold' star, and that it would be nearly impossible to 'see' unless you had an infrared telescope pointing at the exact location of the cold star, AND it would have to be close. I alwayd thought it would be a 'star', you know, bright and luminous.

Now, I look at this idea as making more sense than not. My change in mind comes not from just wanting to believe it, but because of all the research I've looked at recently, along with certain activities appearing lately on our sun... activities that are 'extremely' rare, but are happening every other week.

I feel we are at the cusp of great changes.

our binary twins farthest flung planet is now sitting semi- cloaked at about half an AU from our lovely blue planet. we have a loaded gun pointed directly at the collective head of mankind. there is not so much things to believe or not believe. It is simply there. When it decides to go on its inbound run at its average stellar speed of 33,000 miles per hour it will be here in 40 days.

tptb know, NASA knows, intelligent free men know. thats about all.
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Is this coming from facts you know, or speculation? Do you know for a FACT that this object is half an AU out? Or is that supposition from various articles?

And what do you mean by semi-cloaked? Do you say that because it would have to be a brown dwarf and is naturally hidden because of its cold nature?
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please will there be monsters and aliens.


Many believe aliens, but they are already here, and have been for a long, long, long time.
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Sickscent, what do you mean by this? You have a vast amount of knowledge about planet x. Could you elaborate more on aliens being here? Offer some information I can read up on?
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Sickscent,

Just wanted to thank you for keeping on top of this subject, doing the research, and bringing us more info like the clue you just posted.

I watched you keep up the the 'NASA teleconference guy' thread and then smartly switch threads to keep the trolls at bay.

I look forward to your posts.

Keep lookin' up,

A friend.
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this talk of shape and trajectory of our little system has i feel no twin it assosiated with its just we are leaving one system and entering the milky way
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please will there be monsters and aliens.


Many believe aliens, but they are already here, and have been for a long, long, long time.



Sickscent, what do you mean by this? You have a vast amount of knowledge about planet x. Could you elaborate more on aliens being here? Offer some information I can read up on?
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Hmmm, we're getting off subject, but I'll make it quick. I have conscious memories of contact with 'Grays'. I haven't yet decided to retrieve information during contact, but I have a number of memories of being taken.

There are the non-believers, the believers, and the ones who KNOW. Non-believers will never believe someone elses accounts, they will have to 'experience' contact in order to believe. The only way they will believe is by KNOWING.

The believers that have not had contact do not KNOW. Therefore, their paradigms have not changed yet.

The ones that KNOW, that have had contact and have discovered that their experiences are real, well, their paradigms are changed. The biggest paradigm change is the death of the Ego, or sometimes referred to as 'Dying on to Self'.

I KNOW that They are here, because of my experience. I don't expect belief from anyone. And, I don't care. The experiences, up to this point of time, is completely personal. I know why; because it is spiritual in nature. It is a type of 'growing up'. It is acceptance of things beyond you. That causes Ego death.

I don't know if and when They will choose to reveal themselves. I do hope They do, because it is something we humans need desperately in order to better understand ourselves. They will not be here to save us, but They are here to be the catalyst to save us from ourselves. That process is done by individual enlightenment through various experiences, alien or other.

If you want to understand the process, read John Mack's books, Abduction and Passport to the Cosmos. There is a TON of disinformation and misinformation, but I have found that Mack's work strikes closest to my beliefs and experiences.
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please will there be monsters and aliens.


Many believe aliens, but they are already here, and have been for a long, long, long time.
 Quoting: Sickscent


In the other thread about the ribbon, you had some Q&A from the casiopaians.

Do you beleive that the ribbon that is extending into the solar system is the edge of the Wave that they are speaking of?
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Sickscent,

Just wanted to thank you for keeping on top of this subject, doing the research, and bringing us more info like the clue you just posted.

I watched you keep up the the 'NASA teleconference guy' thread and then smartly switch threads to keep the trolls at bay.

I look forward to your posts.

Keep lookin' up,

A friend.
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Thanks.
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please will there be monsters and aliens.


Many believe aliens, but they are already here, and have been for a long, long, long time.


In the other thread about the ribbon, you had some Q&A from the casiopaians.

Do you beleive that the ribbon that is extending into the solar system is the edge of the Wave that they are speaking of?
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Let me put it this way. I am not someone who believes in coincidences. The Wave information, some of it, hit the nail on the head. But, I believe channeling has a lot of misinformation in it. So, when I look at channeled material that references physical traits, then something really has to match in order for me to look closer at it.

Do I believe it is The Wave? That's neither here nor there. It is more like I hope that it would be true, but other than that, I don't think of it any other way. I find stuff like that fascinating reading, but I do not choose to believe it outright.
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please will there be monsters and aliens.


Many believe aliens, but they are already here, and have been for a long, long, long time.



Sickscent, what do you mean by this? You have a vast amount of knowledge about planet x. Could you elaborate more on aliens being here? Offer some information I can read up on?


Hmmm, we're getting off subject, but I'll make it quick. I have conscious memories of contact with 'Grays'. I haven't yet decided to retrieve information during contact, but I have a number of memories of being taken.

There are the non-believers, the believers, and the ones who KNOW. Non-believers will never believe someone elses accounts, they will have to 'experience' contact in order to believe. The only way they will believe is by KNOWING.

The believers that have not had contact do not KNOW. Therefore, their paradigms have not changed yet.

The ones that KNOW, that have had contact and have discovered that their experiences are real, well, their paradigms are changed. The biggest paradigm change is the death of the Ego, or sometimes referred to as 'Dying on to Self'.

I KNOW that They are here, because of my experience. I don't expect belief from anyone. And, I don't care. The experiences, up to this point of time, is completely personal. I know why; because it is spiritual in nature. It is a type of 'growing up'. It is acceptance of things beyond you. That causes Ego death.

I don't know if and when They will choose to reveal themselves. I do hope They do, because it is something we humans need desperately in order to better understand ourselves. They will not be here to save us, but They are here to be the catalyst to save us from ourselves. That process is done by individual enlightenment through various experiences, alien or other.

If you want to understand the process, read John Mack's books, Abduction and Passport to the Cosmos. There is a TON of disinformation and misinformation, but I have found that Mack's work strikes closest to my beliefs and experiences.
 Quoting: Sickscent


Thank you. Sorry I led you off topic. I have also had experiences but their fuzzy, in fact, I had one last night. Scary at first, still is, but I'm learning to accept it.
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this talk of shape and trajectory of our little system has i feel no twin it assosiated with its just we are leaving one system and entering the milky way
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There are two things that are important to the binary theory.

1. The arc of comets strung across the sky that had come from the Oort Cloud.

2. The Magnetic Ribbon. If I read one scientific paper correctly, interstellar magnetic fields are prevented from entering the heliosphere at the heliopause. And if it has entered our system, the best explanation I have come up with is that it has to do with the magnetics of a cold dwarf.

Read Fluff the Magnet Dragon thread on this page. it is where I pose something to this affect.

Thread: The FLUFFY MAGNETIC RIBBON NEMESIS of the PLASMA UNIVERSE (Page 18)

OK, I figured it out. This is especially for AC 8389.

It's going to take a little background so be patient.

They wonder how they get these 'clouds' out in interstellar space. It happens a little like this: Imagine a soap bubble. That is our localized region of Interstellar Space. Now, a stream of magnetics shoots out from 'near' galactic center. I won't go into the details of that, but suffice to say, it is NOT the singularity (or black hole) at galactic center, but the radius around it.

These streams of magnetics are like blowing into a large soap bubble. First you get an indentation, then you get a magnetic flux tube, then the tube closes back up (because you are out of the magnetic stream) and you are left with a 'bubble' inside the bubble. This is a representation of the 'clouds' in interstellar space.

On to something else now.

There is a 'plane' of magnetics that radiates out from 'near' galactic center. It flows out on an equatorial plane to galactic center and hits our heliosphere at a perpendicular angle. When this plane hits our heliosphere it doesn't penetrate it (I looked ALL OVER the place for that information, and all the stuff I found said that it might 'seep' in, but nothing major).

Here is the kicker!

What if a large body (with at least 3 times the mass of Jupiter (and up to 10) slammed into our heliosphere while we are in this plane of magnetics (which I read was at the very, very least 3 times the norm). The more spin it had, the stronger the magnetic currents.

It punches into our heliosphere and, with the help of its density/mass and its magnetosphere, it PULLS the magnetic plane in with it, just like a magnetic flux tube (like using the analogy of 'blowing' a bubble inside a bubble). But, instead a stream of magnetics hitting our local interstellar space and creating a 'cloud', this brown dwarf (?) creates a ribbon of magnetics that trails behind, out through the heliosphere (where it punched a hole). Thus, creating a magnetic flux tube directly into interstellar space.

What would the flux tube look like? Well, an object like this has a North Pole and a South Pole. The front of the object would create something like a bow shock, where north pole and south pole of its magnetosphere bow out in front of it, hit the solar wind, and wind back behind it with a 'tail'. We see this EVERYDAY, with Earth's magnetosphere.

What would it create if this magnetosphere from this large object (brown dwarf) was extremely large and the north magnetic and south magnetic poles drifted far behind it? We are talking about a HUGE magnetic field...

It would be RIBBON SHAPED! As the positive and negative charge poles would flow up, out, then back due to its movement into the solar winds!

A RIBBON!!! THE RIBBON IS A BI-POLAR FLUX TUBE!
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please will there be monsters and aliens.


Many believe aliens, but they are already here, and have been for a long, long, long time.



Sickscent, what do you mean by this? You have a vast amount of knowledge about planet x. Could you elaborate more on aliens being here? Offer some information I can read up on?


Hmmm, we're getting off subject, but I'll make it quick. I have conscious memories of contact with 'Grays'. I haven't yet decided to retrieve information during contact, but I have a number of memories of being taken.

There are the non-believers, the believers, and the ones who KNOW. Non-believers will never believe someone elses accounts, they will have to 'experience' contact in order to believe. The only way they will believe is by KNOWING.

The believers that have not had contact do not KNOW. Therefore, their paradigms have not changed yet.

The ones that KNOW, that have had contact and have discovered that their experiences are real, well, their paradigms are changed. The biggest paradigm change is the death of the Ego, or sometimes referred to as 'Dying on to Self'.

I KNOW that They are here, because of my experience. I don't expect belief from anyone. And, I don't care. The experiences, up to this point of time, is completely personal. I know why; because it is spiritual in nature. It is a type of 'growing up'. It is acceptance of things beyond you. That causes Ego death.

I don't know if and when They will choose to reveal themselves. I do hope They do, because it is something we humans need desperately in order to better understand ourselves. They will not be here to save us, but They are here to be the catalyst to save us from ourselves. That process is done by individual enlightenment through various experiences, alien or other.

If you want to understand the process, read John Mack's books, Abduction and Passport to the Cosmos. There is a TON of disinformation and misinformation, but I have found that Mack's work strikes closest to my beliefs and experiences.


Thank you. Sorry I led you off topic. I have also had experiences but their fuzzy, in fact, I had one last night. Scary at first, still is, but I'm learning to accept it.
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I've learned to accept it, but it is still scary as hell. If you ahve had experiences, read John Mack's books. There are many other books out there, but many of those deal with the fear aspects of it.
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Nice find OP. I keep bumping into you.

Was your contact at night out of body.

Well the one guy has not answered your questions yet interesting. He sounded pretty authoritative. 40days not much warning. Well sounds like I might lose another body soon oh well won't be the first one. lol rken
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Nice find OP. I keep bumping into you.

Was your contact at night out of body.

Well the one guy has not answered your questions yet interesting. He sounded pretty authoritative. 40days not much warning. Well sounds like I might lose another body soon oh well won't be the first one. lol rken
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this is ALL a spiritual exercise. when you take a dump in the morning its spiritual, me especially so. you get my point.

everything that man has ever been presented with has been half truth enveloped in a lie surrounded by an enigma. the massive entities that coordinate our expierences deem it necessary to have us utterly confused. it works for the best that way. look at even jesus. he confused more people than he ever set straight. it was done on purpose. but lets not go there.

right now SOHO has sporadic pictures of PX. it is unmistakable. you tube vids from around the world are showing us lots of sun dogs which can be quite pretty, but some of them are also showing PX.

A black hole is detected by not actually seeing it but by all the discrepancies it produces around it. such with PX {other than SOHO and pictures from earth} tptb behavoir, stock markets, people in general, etc. etc. don,t actually lead to the conclusion of PX but if you would want to explain them in a coherent formula you would try all different reasoning until one made sense and fit. the one that fits is PX. there are a lot of tptb essentially running scared these days. they do not know what to make of it all. element of doubt that our massive entity coordinators live by! coordinates come from logic, intuition and Z's.
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Nice find OP. I keep bumping into you.

Was your contact at night out of body.

Well the one guy has not answered your questions yet interesting. He sounded pretty authoritative. 40days not much warning. Well sounds like I might lose another body soon oh well won't be the first one. lol rken
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Hey rken, sorry i didn't respind earlier. had some work to do.

The beginning of contact was definitely physical, and that is the part I can remember consciously. I believe it became an out of body, but I am not sure as I haven't yet retrieved the memories of the entire experiences.
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Sickscent,

Just wanted to thank you for keeping on top of this subject, doing the research, and bringing us more info like the clue you just posted.

I watched you keep up the the 'NASA teleconference guy' thread and then smartly switch threads to keep the trolls at bay.

I look forward to your posts.

Keep lookin' up,

A friend.
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A friend? Hmmm, is that supposed to be just a general, "Hey, I'm just a friend here on GLP!"? Or is it more mysterious? Like, you don't know me, but I know you, type of friend.

Curious minds want to know...
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"Presented in this video are some photos of what many people call Nibiru and Planet X. They are very real and my evidence is pure fact. What many people do not realise, is that Nibiru is infact a dark star, about half the size of our Sun. It has a number of large planets and moons orbiting around it, one of which is Planet X. It's kind of like a mini solar system. These objects are heading towards us, as they have done in the distant past. These objects will become visible to every human on Earth within the next couple of years. Some time around 2012/13, these objects will be closer to us than our own Sun, and will dominate the daytime and nighttime sky. Another fact many people do not know about, is that Planet X is an inhabited planet. The US government knows this, and are infact in contact with them because this is not just a catastrophic event for us, it is for them aswell. Many people can be saved, but actions need to be taken NOW. If we leave it to the last minute, it will be to late. Within the next few years, nobody will be able to hide the fact these objects are heading towards us, because they will be seen by everyone and will grow larger as they approach us. Global panic is unavoidable and this event is unavoidable. "



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Re: Voyager Data May Reveal Trajectory Of Solar System; Possible Presence Of Companion Star
I was a strong disbeliever in anything related to Planet X, or a companion star to our sun, or anything like that...

Until I researched the magnetic ribbon and found all these research papers and scientists saying that the most likely cause for certain strange behaviors in our system, is that our solar system is a binary star system.

The reason I had always disbelieved this theory is that I didn't think of our second star being a 'cold' star, and that it would be nearly impossible to 'see' unless you had an infrared telescope pointing at the exact location of the cold star, AND it would have to be close. I alwayd thought it would be a 'star', you know, bright and luminous.

Now, I look at this idea as making more sense than not. My change in mind comes not from just wanting to believe it, but because of all the research I've looked at recently, along with certain activities appearing lately on our sun... activities that are 'extremely' rare, but are happening every other week.

I feel we are at the cusp of great changes.
 Quoting: Sickscent

Actually, most stars of Sol's magnitude and size are binary systems. If ours was not, it would be unusual. I'm not sure I totally believe it yet, but some of the arguments are compelling.....

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