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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art :thun321: Plasma scientists are now comparing electrical discharge formations in the laboratory to rock art images around the world. Results in 2005 should confirm that immense and terrifying plasma configurations were seen in the sky of our ancestors. For over three decades Anthony Peratt, a leading authority on plasma phenomena, concentrated his laboratory research on the unstable formations that develop in high-energy electrical discharge. He recorded the evolution of these configurations through dozens of phases. Some of the most elaborate discharge forms are now called “Peratt Instabilities” because he was the first to document them. But Peratt’s most recent work has taken him in a new direction, and the results offer a remarkable link between plasma science and things once seen in the heavens. In September, 2000, in response to communication with David Talbott, Peratt became intrigued by the striking similarity of ancient rock art to the discharge formations he had documented. Suddenly he was seeing, carved on stone by the tens of thousands, the very forms he had observed in the laboratory. The correlation was so precise -- down to the finest details -- that it could not be accidental. The artists were recording heaven-spanning discharge formations above them. In his investigation of rock art themes, Peratt concentrated his field work in the American Southwest and Northwest, but he also gathered data internationally. For his on-site study he used GPS longitude and latitude positions, always noting the orientation and field of view. A team of about 30 volunteers, including specialists from several fields, assisted Peratt in the investigation, and he has since gathered more than 25,000 rock art images. The illustrations of one interesting formation — the “squatter man” shown above -- are taken from Peratt’s recent paper in "Transactions on Plasma Science" of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, in December 2003. Peratt states his conclusion forthrightly: The recurring petroglyph patterns "are reproductions of plasma phenomena in space". Peratt’s findings are particularly significant in their contrast to traditional explanations of rock art. The majority of rock art authorities, particularly those with primary interest in Native American sources, argue that only images of the sun, moon, and stars reflect actual celestial phenomena. Apart from such associations, most authorities claim that global patterns do not exist. Rather, they tell us, the ancient artists projected onto stone the subjective content of shamanistic trances. Peratt’s investigations say the opposite, and they confirm dozens of patterns of rock art that occur globally. Through massive labors, some apparently taking whole lifetimes according to Peratt, the artists recorded immense discharge phenomena in the heavens. The “squatter man” configuration depicted above occurs when a disk or donut-like torus around a linear discharge column is bent by magnetic fields induced by intense current flow. From the viewpoint of the observer, the edges of the upper disk may appear to point up (forming "arms") and those of the lower torus may appear to point down (forming "legs"). The underlying “hourglass” pattern, with many subtle variations, occurs around the world. To appreciate the evolution of this discharge configuration it is essential that one visualize it three dimensionally, as illustrated by the idealization above. The graphic image on the upper left utilizes a tonal gradient to indicate the structure of a translucent plasma discharge, where this structure would not be self evident in a rendition carved on rock. The key here is to recognize that rotating the configuration on its axis would not change the basic form or appearance to the observer. This fact will not be evident, however, in a simple carving on rock. To make the point, the accompanying image converts the illustration into black and white, which represents the way the configuration would likely appear in a stone carving. Our idealization shows slight variations between the upward-pointing and downward-pointing components, consistent with common variations in the laboratory and in rock art. The upper “champagne glass” form results from a distortion of a disk as the edges curve upward. In the warping of the disk below, the downward curvature is interrupted at the extremity, which bends outward to create a “squashed bell” appearance. The rock art images shown above include other variations as well. Sometimes, the “arms” and “legs” of the “squatter man” are horizontal, while at other times they are more squared than in our graphic representation, but both variations are characteristic of intense plasma discharge. Our idealization of the hourglass discharge form accents the visual relationship of the two symmetrical dots or circles to a transparent doughnut-like torus, viewed edge on. But many other nuances of such discharge configurations must be taken into account. The warping of the upward and downward extremities of the hourglass form can occur in almost limitless variations. To illustrate the extent of the variations anciently recorded, we offer two interesting examples in the upper right frame of the montage above. The first, closely tied to the more elementary “squatter man” formation, includes the two dots to the right and left of the torso. The incongruous additional pair of “legs” also accord with observed patterns in the evolution of Peratt instabilities, which typically send out stacks of “arms” or “legs” in the very fashion depicted. Even more bizarre is the accompanying squatter man whose head is replaced by the body of a duck. But this pattern too, particularly widespread in the Americas, is no accident according to Peratt. If Peratt’s conclusions are correct, then only a few thousand years ago the terrestrial sky was ablaze with electrical activity. The ramifications of this possibility will directly affect our understanding of cultural roots. What was the impact of the recorded events on the first civilizations? What was the relationship to the origins of world mythology, to the birth of the early religions, or to monumental construction in ancient times? There is reason to believe that rock art will illuminate a critical turn in human history. There is also a provable connection to the evolution of mythical archetypes. Archaic rock art depictions came first, but were followed by an outpouring of conceptual elaborations, as ancient artists gave imaginative expression to the celestial forms and events that inspired the myth-making epoch. Both the rock artists and the myth-makers had true perils on their minds. The rock artists recorded and the myth-makers interpreted electrical events in the sky, as plasma discharge sequences moved through discrete phases, some of celestial beauty, others intensely violent and terrifying.

34 User ID: 923908 United States 03/25/2010 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art wow, nice find OP
Anonymous Coward User ID: 843229 United States 03/25/2010 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art That first image looks alot like this one from the Denver Airport!! [link to images.google.com]
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art That first image looks alot like this one from the Denver Airport!! [link to images.google.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 843229 Yeah it does!
Hitndahedfred User ID: 826012 United States 03/25/2010 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art This is quite interesting. The patterns carved into the rock is remarkably similar to the effects observed in the lab. I give ya 5 gold ones for this find. Please keep it coming Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy] [link to www.stricklychopped.com] [link to www.ghi-engrs.com]
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art That first image looks alot like this one from the Denver Airport!! [link to images.google.com] Yeah it does! Quoting: Sickscent :Denv Air:
Anonymous Coward User ID: 843229 United States 03/25/2010 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art That first image looks alot like this one from the Denver Airport!! [link to images.google.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 843229 That pic also looks like the destroyer coming down and turning in this image. Could it be that when planet X gets close this is what the ski will look like???
GraftedPromise User ID: 922220 United States 03/25/2010 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art . ... ... whoah! ... .
Nothing is true User ID: 925267 United Kingdom 03/25/2010 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Is there a link for that please? Everything is permitted..
Anonymous Coward User ID: 843229 United States 03/25/2010 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art That first image looks alot like this one from the Denver Airport!! [link to images.google.com] Yeah it does! :Denv Air: Quoting: Sickscent Thanks I did not know how to do that with the picture.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 844573 Canada 03/25/2010 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art I love it! The further we advance into our future, the more we are able to decipher our past... We are approaching our beginnings- rediscovering. Like the cornflakes advert: 'Taste it again- for the first time'. Thx:)
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Is there a link for that please? Quoting: Nothing is true Sure is. It is actually an article from this website: [link to www.thunderbolts.info] BUT, I got the article from this website: [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art That first image looks alot like this one from the Denver Airport!! [link to images.google.com] Yeah it does! :Denv Air: Thanks I did not know how to do that with the picture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 843229 No problem. you have to have an upgraded account.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art This makes you rethink the Norway Spiral, huh?!
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art I love it! The further we advance into our future, the more we are able to decipher our past... We are approaching our beginnings- rediscovering. Like the cornflakes advert: 'Taste it again- for the first time'. Thx:) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 844573 Now you are beginning to understand why the ancients always referred to existence as being cyclical.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art . ... ... whoah! ... . Quoting: GraftedPromise 922220

Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Check out MOTIF 12! The most common ancient symbols of the divine thunderbolt. All of the unusual motifs listed below find wide distribution in the ancient world: Motif #1: Lightning takes the form of a frightful weapon—a sword, arrow, mace, club, spear, axe, or hammer. Motif #2: Lightning is an ancestral warrior, the hero god who defeated chaos monsters in primeval times. Lightning-hero and lightning-weapon are frequently synonymous. Motif #3: Lightning appears as a great bird or “thunderbird” with heaven-spanning wings. Motif #4: Lightning is the flash of an “eye” in heaven. It is the destructive power of the “evil eye,” destroying opposition. Motif #5: Lightning is launched from a great wheel turning in the sky, the “chariot” of the gods. Motif #6: Lightning is accompanied by falling stones or “thunderstones.” Motif #7: Lightning is the messenger of a central sun that ruled the sky before the present sun. Motif #8: Lighting streaks along the world axis, acquiring the form of a towering column, the axis mundi. It is the pillar of the sky which, at the beginning of time, “separated heaven and earth.” Motif #9: Lightning is a generative, masculine pillar. It impregnates goddesses. Motif #10: Lighting is a “chain of arrows” launched skyward by a great warrior or hero. Motif #11: Lighting appears as a ladder or backbone of the sky, whose steps were ascended by an ancestral hero. Motif #12: Lightning spirals, twists, or whirls across the heavens. It is a whorl, swastika, or triskeleon. Motif #13: Lighting appears as an undulating, fiery serpent. Motif #14: Lightning takes the form of twins, two brothers, or two companions, each viewed as the alter ego of the other. Motif #15: Lightning is two serpentine or rope-like filaments wound around a central axis (caduceus motif) Motif #16: Lightning appears as an equal-limbed cross; it explodes as luminous streamers, dividing the home of the gods into equal quarters. Motif #17: Lighting “blossoms” as a flower, the celebrated plant of life. Motif #18: Lightning is fire and brimstone (sulfur). The lightning of the gods gives rise to a sulfurous stench. Motif #19: In their violent wars, the gods blast each other with lightning. Chaos monsters are destroyed by lightning. Motif #20: Lightning leaves its mark on celestial heroes and chaos monsters, who are “lightning scarred,” or “thunderstruck.” Motif #21: The lightning-scar or wound of the warrior-hero is the mark by which he is identified or recognized.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art THE VIOLENT EVOLUTION OF THE PLANETARY CONFIGURATION, RECORDED ON PAPYRUS, CLAY, AND STONE, FINDS DIRECT VERIFICATION IN THE EVOLUTION OF PLASMA DISCHARGE CONFIGURATIONS IN THE LABORATORY. THE MYTHICAL “CHAIN OF ARROWS” -Dave Talbott
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 03/25/2010 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art At the heart of this evolutionary sequence is the “chain of arrows” event, a global theme so preposterous as to mock every attempt of comparative mythologists to understand it. In this theme an ancestral warrior or hero launches arrows toward the sky, and each arrowhead embeds itself in the one above it. The chain of arrows then becomes a ladder by which the hero ascends to heaven. Numerous examples of the theme will be found in the Americas alone, but other examples occur from Africa and India to the South Pacific. In the Kathlamet legend of a hero named “Many Swans,” this great ancestor launches a stream of arrows heavenward, these forming a ladder of ascent to the sky. In the Hindu Ramayana the arrows of Arjuna form a bridge capable of carrying the mighty Hanuman, the traveler between worlds. From a systematic examination of ancient pictographs, I had concluded that the chain of arrows involved a series of toroids stacked along a central spine and that these toroidal forms had evolved violently from a luminous filament spiraling up the polar axis. Additionally, since Wal Thornhill had persuaded me that the unique phases of the polar configuration involved plasma discharging, I became increasingly aware of the vital links between the arrow-chain and the mythical “lightning” of the gods. In 1997 I had sketched out the unique form of the arrow-chain for Wal. He replied that this configuration must indeed have its explanation in plasma behavior. He agreed to look into it. PERATT INSTABILITY Then came one of the great surprises in the history of the research. It occurred only last September, when Tony Peratt, one of the world’s most accomplished plasma theorists, described the violent evolution of a plasma discharge form that he had documented over more than two decades. In plasma science this configuration is named after Tony - it is called the “Peratt Instability.” From the moment of this revelation, nothing has been the same. The correspondence between the global pictographic record, our reconstruction based on historical testimony, and the extraordinary forms of the evolving discharge in the laboratory is simply “too specific and too precise to be due to accident” (not my words, but the words of plasma experts). The result of this new information is that the “chain of arrows,” one of the most perplexing archetypes, is no longer seeking an explanation. Moreover, these revelations will bring us into direct liaison with leading experts in plasma science, and the convergence appears to be more powerful than anything we had previously hoped for. -Dave Talbott
Anonymous Coward User ID: 925727 India 03/25/2010 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923932 Canada 03/25/2010 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Was the article written by Andrew Perrat? I think that's the guys name. Xenus posted links to his work on his petroglyph thread. I remember reading about those images there to. And he also showed the locations of most of the petroglyphs in the world. Did you know that the vast majority of them are south facing?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923932 Canada 03/25/2010 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Was the article written by Andrew Perrat? I think that's the guys name. Xenus posted links to his work on his petroglyph thread. I remember reading about those images there to. And he also showed the locations of most of the petroglyphs in the world. Did you know that the vast majority of them are south facing? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923932 Doh! Didn't read it! Anthony.....yeah I only looked at the pics and remembered them. Sorry.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692625 United States 03/25/2010 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art This is coming again. CME/EMP and then COG...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923932 Canada 03/25/2010 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Is there a link for that please? Quoting: Nothing is true Here you go NisT. Went and got this from Xenus' thread. It's the first article, you will also see a link to his followup one in the sidebar to the right. [link to www.scribd.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 925727 India 03/25/2010 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Is there a link for that please? Here you go NisT. Went and got this from Xenus' thread. It's the first article, you will also see a link to his followup one in the sidebar to the right. [link to www.scribd.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923932 Thanks AC. There are a number of links, but Dave Talbott and the other guy (sorry, forgot his name) started the Thunderbolts work and that is where much of this research was gathered and put into a 'whole'.
aether User ID: 923575 United Kingdom 03/25/2010 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923932 Canada 03/25/2010 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Is there a link for that please? Here you go NisT. Went and got this from Xenus' thread. It's the first article, you will also see a link to his followup one in the sidebar to the right. [link to www.scribd.com] Thanks AC. There are a number of links, but Dave Talbott and the other guy (sorry, forgot his name) started the Thunderbolts work and that is where much of this research was gathered and put into a 'whole'. Quoting: Sickscent Yes, but the article in your opening post is about Perrat and his studies. The link I gave is to those.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 925775 United States 03/25/2010 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Did you know that the vast majority of them are south facing? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923932 What is the significance of this, when taken in context with what NASA knows today?
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 925727 India 03/25/2010 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Is there a link for that please? Here you go NisT. Went and got this from Xenus' thread. It's the first article, you will also see a link to his followup one in the sidebar to the right. [link to www.scribd.com] Thanks AC. There are a number of links, but Dave Talbott and the other guy (sorry, forgot his name) started the Thunderbolts work and that is where much of this research was gathered and put into a 'whole'. Yes, but the article in your opening post is about Perrat and his studies. The link I gave is to those. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923932 Gotcha. Thanks again
aether User ID: 923575 United Kingdom 03/25/2010 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky Depicted in Ancient Art Did you know that the vast majority of them are south facing? What is the significance of this, when taken in context with what NASA knows today? hysterics........
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