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I've seen it in my dreams at least twice, the time is upon us..... prepare, I am a survivor I have seen it.
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Just wanted to say thanks for putting all of this together ... it's obvious it took a lot of time!
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Maybe now someone can summarize the summary. lol.

Summary: Big EMP ribbon thing gonna crack us in the ass come July.
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Think no electricity for the next 17 years.
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The Dawn of a New Epoch?

(PhysOrg.com) -- Geologists from the University of Leicester are among four scientists- including a Nobel prize-winner - who suggest that the Earth has entered a new age of geological time.

The Age of Aquarius? Not quite - It’s the Anthropocene Epoch, say the scientists writing in the journal Environmental Science & Technology. (web issue March 29; print issue April 1)

And they add that the dawning of this new epoch may include the sixth largest mass extinction in the Earth’s history.

Jan Zalasiewicz and Mark Williams from the University of Leicester Department of Geology; Will Steffen, Director of the Australian National University’s Climate Change Institute and Paul Crutzen the Nobel Prize-winning atmospheric chemist of Mainz University provide evidence for the scale of global change in their commentary in the American Chemical Society’s’ bi-weekly journal Environmental Science & Technology.

The scientists propose that, in just two centuries, humans have wrought such vast and unprecedented changes to our world that we actually might be ushering in a new geological time interval, and alter the planet for millions of years.

Zalasiewicz, Williams, Steffen and Crutzen contend that recent human activity, including stunning population growth, sprawling megacities and increased use of fossil fuels, have changed the planet to such an extent that we are entering what they call the Anthropocene (New Man) Epoch.

First proposed by Crutzen more than a decade ago, the term Anthropocene has provoked controversy. However, as more potential consequences of human activity — such as global climate change and sharp increases in plant and animal extinctions — have emerged, Crutzen’s term has gained support. Currently, the worldwide geological community is formally considering whether the Anthropocene should join the Jurassic, Cambrian and other more familiar units on the Geological Time Scale.

The scientists note that getting that formal designation will likely be contentious. But they conclude, “However these debates will unfold, the Anthropocene represents a new phase in the history of both humankind and of the Earth, when natural forces and human forces became intertwined, so that the fate of one determines the fate of the other. Geologically, this is a remarkable episode in the history of this planet.”
[link to www.physorg.com]
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lol. I think he gives "MAN" too much credit.
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AWESOME job SS.

Is there anyway you could put it in a pdf file so we could save it and print it out?

That was an incredible amount of work you did.

TY

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bump bump bump

Quality stuff, thanks for taking the time to do it.

It would be nice though to have a more concise version for people who just aren't going to spend the time reading through it, I mean it is really, really long... worth it, but long. And I think the more people that can absorb the information the better
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AWESOME job SS.

Is there anyway you could put it in a pdf file so we could save it and print it out?

That was an incredible amount of work you did.

TY

hf
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I believe you can hit the print button and print the first two pages couldn't you? Just wondering...
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I'd just like to join the chorus and say - Great job Sickscent!

You could have shrugged off the "many of you are close..." thread like many of us did, but instead you took the seed and planted a big fat tree!

What you've collected and the conclusions that one can draw are logical and easily understood. For me it answers many questions, especially the list of earth anomalies that we've been experiencing on a more frequent basis.

To those of you who are concerned about being without power, let me give you a little hint: Permanent Magnet Alternator. Buy one or build one - or many. If you survive the shitstorm, you can be the only one in your neighborhood with lights on. Or you could swap your creations for all the food you'll need.
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Cool. Thanks.

However, there was a mention of a sustained, or rolling solar induced EMP. What is that going to do to the functioning of the PMA? That dude was using some hard core magnets, but their 'permanence' qualities may end up being made less effective, or non-magnetic, no? I suppose it depends how strong the EMP is, in comparison. Something to think about.

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I love the "CutePDF Writer" you install it and it appears in your printer list. When you hit print and select it, a save window pops up and saves it where ever you choose. Only down fall is that on here you have to go to Page 1 and print then page 2 and print ........ I just make a folder for the threads and save the pages as pg1 pg2 pg3...

PERMANENT MAGNET ALTERNATOR are you talking to use with wind or is there a Magnet Generator. LOL Sorry I know I could google but its faster if someone has all info in their head already.
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5 stars for information compiling skills...hope i have time to read it soon
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I believe that woman channeled a demon, and it is telling her the truth, and at the same time, a lie.

The truth is that we will not only be bombarded by solar radiation, and that we are protected from the galactic wave, but we will also be bombarded by cosmic debris.

The lie is that we can't do anything about it. Well, technically we can't, but God can.

I know many of you do not believe in the biblical God because the bible is not perfect. It doesn't have to be perfect, that is a lie taught to many people, probably from demonic entities, but I figure humans can come up with such things quite easily.

Revelation paints a slightly different picture.

There will be major earthquakes felt around the world at the same time. Then a caldera blows, maybe yellowstone, maybe toba. Maybe, and probably, both.

Whether the rocks shot into space from the explosions of the calderas is the hail stones in question, or not, there will be a time period of space rocks falling.

Along with a comet that will break up into two main pieces and hit Earth. The comet will have something to do with the name Lion.

One of the comet's hits below Ethiopia, and poisons the waters there. The other comet comes into Ethiopia.

During this time, the real Ark of the Covenant will be taken from Ethiopia to Israel.

I have gathered these things from Isaiah and the book of Revelation.

Believe it or not, but when Africa gets hit by a water poisoning rock, remember what you read here.

Repent, turn away from selfishness. Turn away from having to have everything your own way. Grow the f++k up. Share life, don't hog it all for yourself. Quit being like an animal and treating others like an animal. For if you don't, God will treat you like you treat others, and eliminate you as you would if you were in his place. Judgment will really depend upon your own values, imposed upon you. The most fair way to judge a people ever created, and the most cruel, because the people being judged are themselves very cruel.

. End of sermon.
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P.S.

Great thread. I gave you five stars.

I did notice you didn't mention the planetary alignment starting June 11 and lasting until June 15. The main day, I believe when everything is as close as it can be, will be June 13.

June, 13, 2010

6, 13, 2010

6+1+3+2+0+1+0 = 13 Lucky 13.
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I might as well take a week long holiday and read this sun, wave, asteroid, fluff blahblahblah.....then again, only to come to the end of the thread that doom is coming. Why not just for the doom. No point to go through all the pain to connect the dots ......come doom come.
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I might as well take a week long holiday and read this sun, wave, asteroid, fluff blahblahblah.....then again, only to come to the end of the thread that doom is coming. Why not just for the doom. No point to go through all the pain to connect the dots ......come doom come.
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I might as well take a week long holiday and read this sun, wave, asteroid, fluff blahblahblah.....then again, only to come to the end of the thread that doom is coming. Why not just for the doom. No point to go through all the pain to connect the dots ......come doom come.
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I'll give you summary:

Boeing worker hints that we will recieve an emp from the sun due to brown dwarf star passing by solar system and transfering to the sun a tunnel or filiment tube full of energy that will then cause severe solar storms that will pass to Earth a plasma tunnel of energy.

Also, we are passing through a secondary catastrophic event where the center of the galaxy sends out bursts or waves of energy. Hopefully, we will be protected from it, but it could and very likely will shrink down the sun's heliosphere and allow radiation and great energy to hit the Earth and cause a massive emp that will wipe out our electrical grid.

The Boeing worker says he is heading for the hills in June.

Oddly enough, there is a planetary alignment, in the form of a cross in June.

Lots, and lots of doom ahead for us.

For the brown dwarf will also and is now causing, strong tidal waves on Earth and the sun, making the sun have great big filliments that will snap and give us some warm fuzzy feelings in the form of great cme's or simply emp's.

The Boeing worker doesn't think the Earth will be hit by incoming comets and asteroids but said the sun will be, as it has already been shown to have happened, with NASA hinting a brown dwarf could be the cause.

So, how's that for doom?

On the bright side, a woman talking to an entity of some kind, in the eighties and nineties has basically said the same thing, about fifteen years ahead of the mainstream media announcements.

Some people are hinting that we will be changed by the radiation that is coming to us into beings on a higher plane of existence with special powers.

Yeah, like we would be trusted with those powers. Look how well we use the ones we have now.

The last part about what will happen to us spiritually, is optional, most of the article was factual and supported by scientists, but only when put all together, as the Boeing worker insisted.

What can we do about it all?

When the lights go out, pray.
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I might as well take a week long holiday and read this sun, wave, asteroid, fluff blahblahblah.....then again, only to come to the end of the thread that doom is coming. Why not just for the doom. No point to go through all the pain to connect the dots ......come doom come.



I'll give you summary:

Boeing worker hints that we will recieve an emp from the sun due to brown dwarf star passing by solar system and transfering to the sun a tunnel or filiment tube full of energy that will then cause severe solar storms that will pass to Earth a plasma tunnel of energy.

Also, we are passing through a secondary catastrophic event where the center of the galaxy sends out bursts or waves of energy. Hopefully, we will be protected from it, but it could and very likely will shrink down the sun's heliosphere and allow radiation and great energy to hit the Earth and cause a massive emp that will wipe out our electrical grid.

The Boeing worker says he is heading for the hills in June.

Oddly enough, there is a planetary alignment, in the form of a cross in June.

Lots, and lots of doom ahead for us.

For the brown dwarf will also and is now causing, strong tidal waves on Earth and the sun, making the sun have great big filliments that will snap and give us some warm fuzzy feelings in the form of great cme's or simply emp's.

The Boeing worker doesn't think the Earth will be hit by incoming comets and asteroids but said the sun will be, as it has already been shown to have happened, with NASA hinting a brown dwarf could be the cause.

So, how's that for doom?

On the bright side, a woman talking to an entity of some kind, in the eighties and nineties has basically said the same thing, about fifteen years ahead of the mainstream media announcements.

Some people are hinting that we will be changed by the radiation that is coming to us into beings on a higher plane of existence with special powers.

Yeah, like we would be trusted with those powers. Look how well we use the ones we have now.

The last part about what will happen to us spiritually, is optional, most of the article was factual and supported by scientists, but only when put all together, as the Boeing worker insisted.

What can we do about it all?

When the lights go out, pray.
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Oh thanks you for showing me the essence of generosity in summing up the doom.
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wow,

thanks for your update and continued investigation.
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I might as well take a week long holiday and read this sun, wave, asteroid, fluff blahblahblah.....then again, only to come to the end of the thread that doom is coming. Why not just for the doom. No point to go through all the pain to connect the dots ......come doom come.



I'll give you summary:

Boeing worker hints that we will recieve an emp from the sun due to brown dwarf star passing by solar system and transfering to the sun a tunnel or filiment tube full of energy that will then cause severe solar storms that will pass to Earth a plasma tunnel of energy.

Also, we are passing through a secondary catastrophic event where the center of the galaxy sends out bursts or waves of energy. Hopefully, we will be protected from it, but it could and very likely will shrink down the sun's heliosphere and allow radiation and great energy to hit the Earth and cause a massive emp that will wipe out our electrical grid.

The Boeing worker says he is heading for the hills in June.

Oddly enough, there is a planetary alignment, in the form of a cross in June.

Lots, and lots of doom ahead for us.

For the brown dwarf will also and is now causing, strong tidal waves on Earth and the sun, making the sun have great big filliments that will snap and give us some warm fuzzy feelings in the form of great cme's or simply emp's.

The Boeing worker doesn't think the Earth will be hit by incoming comets and asteroids but said the sun will be, as it has already been shown to have happened, with NASA hinting a brown dwarf could be the cause.

So, how's that for doom?

On the bright side, a woman talking to an entity of some kind, in the eighties and nineties has basically said the same thing, about fifteen years ahead of the mainstream media announcements.

Some people are hinting that we will be changed by the radiation that is coming to us into beings on a higher plane of existence with special powers.

Yeah, like we would be trusted with those powers. Look how well we use the ones we have now.

The last part about what will happen to us spiritually, is optional, most of the article was factual and supported by scientists, but only when put all together, as the Boeing worker insisted.

What can we do about it all?

When the lights go out, pray.

Oh thanks you for showing me the essence of generosity in summing up the doom.
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Lol, I love the irony in that statement. :)

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P.S. I'm not the OP, just in case that was misconstrued by me.

But I believe I summed up the article rather well, though, to really feel the doom, and to appreciate the hard work the OP did put into it, I highly recommend that you read it all, or at least skim through it.

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By now it should be crystal clear that *something* is happening, no one can say with 100% accuracy what will happen, simply too many variables and a very complicated subject matter of plasma physics. Anyone who claims they know are lying. Like the poster above many will be trying to fit this information and observations to their beliefs yet no ones beliefs can explain what is happening and will happen. When reality conflicts with beliefs people will more often than not choose the belief over reality such is the insanity and irrationality of people.

I wonder if the same thing happened to Mars with all the electrical like scarring, lack of a magnetosphere and atmosphere...

I can't say we don't deserve it, given all the violence, greed over materialistic goods and paper/plastic which in reality is worthless but to so any is worth more than life. The insanity of people who just don't care about anything or anyone, the irrationality of turning your back on the universe in favour of beliefs and people's lack of intelligence, reason and thinking. Instead of trying to understand the universe and yourselves you choose to believe lies and fantasies.

We all die eventually, it is irrational and stupid to fear death. We've trashed this planet, we build cities and grown outwards like cancers devouring everything in our way, frankly it's about time the place got cleaned up.
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why cant one of these guys make a video or something and not just use words, i want to read body language and all that shit. try and read them a little bit more.
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I believe that woman channeled a demon, and it is telling her the truth, and at the same time, a lie.

The truth is that we will not only be bombarded by solar radiation, and that we are protected from the galactic wave, but we will also be bombarded by cosmic debris.

The lie is that we can't do anything about it. Well, technically we can't, but God can.

I know many of you do not believe in the biblical God because the bible is not perfect. It doesn't have to be perfect, that is a lie taught to many people, probably from demonic entities, but I figure humans can come up with such things quite easily.

Revelation paints a slightly different picture.

There will be major earthquakes felt around the world at the same time. Then a caldera blows, maybe yellowstone, maybe toba. Maybe, and probably, both.

Whether the rocks shot into space from the explosions of the calderas is the hail stones in question, or not, there will be a time period of space rocks falling.

Along with a comet that will break up into two main pieces and hit Earth. The comet will have something to do with the name Lion.

One of the comet's hits below Ethiopia, and poisons the waters there. The other comet comes into Ethiopia.

During this time, the real Ark of the Covenant will be taken from Ethiopia to Israel.

I have gathered these things from Isaiah and the book of Revelation.

Believe it or not, but when Africa gets hit by a water poisoning rock, remember what you read here.

Repent, turn away from selfishness. Turn away from having to have everything your own way. Grow the f++k up. Share life, don't hog it all for yourself. Quit being like an animal and treating others like an animal. For if you don't, God will treat you like you treat others, and eliminate you as you would if you were in his place. Judgment will really depend upon your own values, imposed upon you. The most fair way to judge a people ever created, and the most cruel, because the people being judged are themselves very cruel.

. End of sermon.
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I agree with you, they mixing the truth with lies in there

How I know that?

They explain in ORDER TO move ON TO THE NEXT 4th DESENITY, you must abbandon "love" or "wishful thinking"

They also explain that Lizard are eating people's fear and we become brainwash after so many year

Yeah right...that lady is so dumb when they analzyed "jockies" or "nerds" because of "brain programed us to feed off enegry"

I laughed so hard

She is talking to the demon spirit, how I know that?

They are EMOTIONLESS! They explain emotion is illiusion and when the wave come, you must abaddon love and emotion



LOL.....I do believe the wave is coming but I don't believe Half-liars demon trying to discredit God.
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Please, please, PLEASE do not turn this in to a religious thread. Forget the Cassaeopia material and focus on the scientific data.

If you want to have it reinforce your beliefs in your god that's fine, but allow others to have their own thoughts and feelings on it.
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This theory about a ribbon wave, EMP hitting the sun, reminds me of some info I read years ago.
Not saying this is copied or anything, just that it is very similar.
Back in the first few years into the new millennium (2001-2003) there was a discussion at the Native Prophesy Counsel about The Great Purification, the Red Kachina, ect.
1 of the pieces of information that was posted and discussed was much the same subject/theory as to what this OP is saying.
What I read came from a scientist . My spelling of his name may be wrong, but his name was LaVoilette, or something like that.
A brilliant scientist that made predictions about space that were later proven true...years before the other scientists would even consider his theories.
He was talking about a "Galactic Wave Theory"....about how a wave/ribbon could come from space, and effect us here, how it would cause an EMP>
So, like the OP said, the information has been out there for people to see.
I believe all of what is in this thread.
You all have done an excellant job piecing it all together!

I remember part of what was in that stuff I read, and it said that the dust cloud in that part of space was made up of metal particles...that when they came into contact with the surface of the sun, they made lil explosions, and that the further we get into that area of space, the denser the dust cloud of debris.
Not long after I read that...NASA and Russia started sending up stuff to try and capture the dust that was hitting the sun.
I watched on TV as the thing they sent up, was supposed to be "caught" before it hit the ground out in the desert....but they missed it!
The sample from the sun's solar winds was destroyed, and spread out all over the desert!
I knew then that what I had read about Dr LaVoilette's work must have some creedance, or why else would NASA and everyone else be sending stuff up to catch samples from the sun like that?!
I've been watching since then, and the Sun has truly gotten much stranger...and there seems to be an increase of fireball sightings too, every year, more of them.
I believe it's like Dr LaVoilette said, it's because we are moving into that Debris field/dust cloud ( your Fluff area of space)
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Awesome SS. Just awesome. One small part of all of this caught my eye and would love for you to elaborate on it. This was the quote:

" In short, part of what I know is this, certain features that our sun has displayed is at question. During the monitoring of our sun features in a specific way has manifested in observable events that have taken place many years ago and events that have yet to be.

The process of observing our sun in this specialized way can also be used to monitor other celestial events that have already occurred and those that have yet to occur."



From what I was able to gather, it concerns paleontologists and geologists and ice core studies, etc. We are learning that all this truly is a cycle. By understanding the sun better, and viewing the strata of the earth, they can piece together when these events took place in the past, and then forecast when they will be do to come in the future. The only way to accomplish this is if everything runs cyclically.
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The ancients seem to have already known all of this and when it would occur next as a warning to us all. Unfortunatly that information fell into hands that are keeping to themselves and we are not invited.

It seems we are only relearning something we either forgot over the vast san of time or is deliberatly withheld from us.

Either way things look grim.

Thanks Sick for all the fantastic work!!
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basically it says, something that we aren't sure of may, or may not happen to us


Not true. You obviously didn't read the thread because the information is all there.
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Says you. Okay, so sum it up then.

You went thru a shitload of trouble to cut and paste and edit all that long disorganized string of text and post it here in one blitz. If you actually have any sense at all of the gestalt of all that, of the whole, major, overriding core of the message, then the time and trouble it would take you to type in two or three concise sentences wouldn't take nearly as much time as all that cutting and pasting did.
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All the info in this thread is only the good news and half the story.
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Re: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment
Get a bike get a garden get some hunting/fishing skills. Think 1800's. Then think about how food will not be plentiful about 3 months into it. Think about people who are or are going to starve. Think social break down. Think life gets harder. Think what skills do I have to survive a world where anything electrical is useless and no longer functions. Thinking yet?
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Read the book "ONE SECOND AFTER" very realistic read about an EMP event!!!!
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Re: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment
No problem. This subject is HUGE, and I have a very hard time trying to put it into just a sentence or two.

But, yeah, that is the crust of it. Life without electricity.
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"Life without electricity"? That's it? That's all you got out of all that? You posted like 30 pages of text, and the OP's warning about "life without electricity" was in the first 10% of all that rambling.

If you "have a very hard time trying to put it into a sentence or two", then I'm here to tell you that you in fact do not understand what you posted. Either there is a greater pattern in all that and you do not see it, or there is no pattern. Either way, your inability to coalesce the whole message into a clear and concise statement, while foisting it upon us in this confused and disorganized state, strongly suggests you are just another brainwashed "true believer" who would rather go out and prosetylize to others than actually dig in and comprehend the message he's trying to sell to others.

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