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Thread: CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN
CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN
G. P. ZANK
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Received 1998 November 12; accepted 1999 January 27

ABSTRACT

The interaction of the heliosphere with interstellar clouds has attracted interest since the late 1920s, with a view to explaining apparent both quasi-periodic climate "catastrophes" as well as periodic mass extinctions. Until recently, however, models describing the solar windÈlocal interstellar medium (LISM)interaction self-consistently had not been developed. Here we describe the results of a two-dimensional simulation of the interaction between the heliosphere and an interstellar cloud with the same properties as currently, except that the H0 density is increased from the present value of n(H0)D0.2 cm~3 to 10 cm~3. The mutual interaction of interstellar neutral hydrogen and plasma is included. The heliospheric cavity is reduced considerably in size (approximately 10È14 AU to the termination shock in the
upstream direction) and is highly dynamical. The interplanetary environment at the orbit of the Earth changes markedly, with the density of interstellar H0 increasing to D2 cm~3. The termination shock itself experiences periods where it disappears, reforms, and disappears again.
Considerable mixing of the shocked solar wind and LISM occurs because of Rayleigh-TaylorÈlike instabilities at the nose, driven by ion-neutral friction. Implications of two anomalously high concentrations of 10Be found in Antarctic ice cores, corresponding to 33,000 and 60,000 yr ago, and the absence of prior similar events are discussed in terms of density enhancements in the surrounding interstellar cloud. The calculation presented here supports past speculation that the Galactic environment of the Sun moderates the interplanetary
environment at the orbit of the Earth and possibly also the terrestrial climate.
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i'll bump this for weeks if it gets people to open their eyes and realize THIS is a real problem
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i'll bump this for weeks if it gets people to open their eyes and realize THIS is a real problem
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You know, I thought we would begin seeing sky lights by now. Guess not. Maybe the sounds heard round the world can be attributed to this. Don't really know.

But, I do know this must be part of it. Increased 'energy' in the atmosphere.


Thread: Electric Clouds
NASA

...lightning discharge in a thundercloud can temporarily change the electric field above the cloud where charged ice crystals were reflecting sunlight. The new electric field quickly re-orients the geometric crystals to a new orientation that reflects sunlight differently. In other words, a lightning discharge can cause a sundog to jump.

[link to apod.nasa.gov]



[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]


more about electric clouds:

Cloud formations often exhibit structure that could be the result of something other than blowing winds. Does ionized plasma actually shape the clouds?

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In a recent press release, scientists from the Weizmann Institute and the Goddard Space Flight Center announced that a mysterious zone of previously undiscovered particles fills the airspace around clouds.

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The electromagnetic field beneath a thunderstorm increases (up to 10,000 volts per meter) because it acts like a capacitor, storing energy from the surrounding environment. Observations have shown that a "wind" of charged particles blows toward the developing storm, which could be interpreted as a current flowing into the base of the clouds. The surrounding air is pulled along with the current flow and creates the powerful updrafts that sometimes rise into the stratosphere.

It might be the flood of ions into and out of clouds that is forming the “twilight zone” of unidentified particles that so mystifies the scientific community.



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yes the pictures help thanks
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yes the pictures help thanks
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lol

I forget the day of this solar eruption, but it was one that had never been seen before, in how it exploded. It was sometime in 2011.

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Yesterday we took an average hit on the magnetosphere, but the frequency and headaches were horrible, even people at work all thought they were coming down with sinus infections and the chemtrails were massive. We have a bad problem with our core slowing down, solar and galactic energy is coming right on in
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Yesterday we took an average hit on the magnetosphere, but the frequency and headaches were horrible, even people at work all thought they were coming down with sinus infections and the chemtrails were massive. We have a bad problem with our core slowing down, solar and galactic energy is coming right on in
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hmm

I got really dizzy yesterday. Worse than I have ever gotten before.
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We are getting ready to line up with the dirty road of the milky way, we have photonic light from alcyone hitting its prime influx. I think we should get use to the fact we are going to experience energy saturation on a constant quantum level
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We are getting ready to line up with the dirty road of the milky way, we have photonic light from alcyone hitting its prime influx. I think we should get use to the fact we are going to experience energy saturation on a constant quantum level
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bumpY headaches!
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Yes it is a problem. A huge scary problem.

Thank you for all the work put into this SS! hf
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Hey Ss

Check out this video.

[link to www.youtube.com]

"Earth's motion around the Sun, not as simple as I thought "

Way cool. Goes with your Macro Spin post. It's about 10 minutes long but well worth a watch.

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Hey Ss

Check out this video.


"Earth's motion around the Sun, not as simple as I thought "

Way cool. Goes with your Macro Spin post. It's about 10 minutes long but well worth a watch.
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I'll have to watch it at home. Looks REAL intersting. Thanks N3m3sis!
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Here are his LONG LIST of credentials.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Here is what he said in an interview;

We have analyzed records of these sounds and found that most of their spectrum lies within the infrasound range, i.e. is not audible to humans. What people hear is only a small fraction of the actual power of these sounds. They are low-frequency acoustic emissions in the range between 20 and 100 Hz modulated by ultra-low infrasonic waves from 0.1 to 15 Hz. In geophysics, they are called acoustic-gravity waves; they are formed in the upper atmosphere, at the atmosphere-ionosphere boundary in particular. There can be quite a lot of causes why those waves are generated: earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, storms, tsunamis, etc. However, the scale of the observed humming sound in terms of both the area covered and its power far exceeds those that can be generated by the above-mentioned phenomena.

Here is a link to the entire interview

[link to geochangemag.org]

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Nice work, like always ..

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SS -- do you think the earth is built (and rotates) like a giant gyroscope?
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According to Wikipedia, the coronal heating problem is not a new problem:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


According to Wikipedia, in 1949, Evry Schatzman proposed the "wave heating theory", as a possible explanation to the coronal heating problem, that was already known at that time.
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SS -- do you think the earth is built (and rotates) like a giant gyroscope?
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I don't know. That's a pretty interesting thought.
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According to Wikipedia, the coronal heating problem is not a new problem:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


According to Wikipedia, in 1949, Evry Schatzman proposed the "wave heating theory", as a possible explanation to the coronal heating problem, that was already known at that time.
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Correct. And, they could not figure out what was causing it. Until the plasma/EU people got a hold of it.
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SS -- do you think the earth is built (and rotates) like a giant gyroscope?
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I don't know. That's a pretty interesting thought.
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I thought so too -- just popped in my brain a moment before I decided to post it; I read someone else's comment above regarding the core slowing down, and I got this mental picture of everything inside the earth rotating in different directions.

And what happens to a gyroscope if one if it's rings stops rotating?

Doesn't the rest of it slow to a halt as well?
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Yesterday we took an average hit on the magnetosphere, but the frequency and headaches were horrible, even people at work all thought they were coming down with sinus infections and the chemtrails were massive. We have a bad problem with our core slowing down, solar and galactic energy is coming right on in
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hmm

I got really dizzy yesterday. Worse than I have ever gotten before.
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So any possible out comes as to what may happen to life on this planet as our heliosphere passes and mixes with the ribbon?


The sounds seem to be an indicator of us hitting the ribbon now.
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One more thing from a simple Google search for "coronal heating problem":



Scientists Solve Coronal Heating Problem


Posted by Heather Goss at 1/10/2011





A longstanding problem with our understanding of the Sun was finding a reason that would explain why the corona was hotter than the surface. Logically it would seem that the farther one gets from the heat-producing energy of the Sun, the cooler the temperatures would be, but instead the corona -- one of the outermost layers of the atmosphere -- can be as hot as one to two million Kelvin. The solar surface stays at a balmy 6000 K.

However, scientists seem to have finally found the explanation. It appears that a high energy type of spicule -- a jet of plasma that reaches from the surface all the way into the outer atmosphere -- is responsible for heating up the corona. As the NSF notes, spicules have been known about for decades, but the ones scientists observed weren't hot enough to explain coronal temperatures.

The solution was discovered by scientists from Lockheed Martin's Solar and Astrophysics Laboratory (LMSAL), NCAR, and the University of Oslo, supported by NASA and the NSF, NCAR's sponsor. They theorized a new kind of spicule, which they call Type II, that is made of super-hot plasma and shoots out at speeds of over 100 km per second -- also causing them to disappear so rapidly that they were nearly impossible to observe.

Using NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory and the Japanese Hinode satellite (source of the image above), they were able to observe the Type II spicule. Though there are still questions to be answered -- what causes these super hot spicules, for one -- this is still an exciting development during a time of increasingly productive solar study.



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Yesterday we took an average hit on the magnetosphere, but the frequency and headaches were horrible, even people at work all thought they were coming down with sinus infections and the chemtrails were massive. We have a bad problem with our core slowing down, solar and galactic energy is coming right on in
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hmm

I got really dizzy yesterday. Worse than I have ever gotten before.
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So any possible out comes as to what may happen to life on this planet as our heliosphere passes and mixes with the ribbon?


The sounds seem to be an indicator of us hitting the ribbon now.
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Sure, everything from consciousness shifts, to evolutionary changes, increased mutations, increased energy in atmosphere, weather pattern changes, on and on.
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One more thing from a simple Google search for "coronal heating problem":



Scientists Solve Coronal Heating Problem


Posted by Heather Goss at 1/10/2011





A longstanding problem with our understanding of the Sun was finding a reason that would explain why the corona was hotter than the surface. Logically it would seem that the farther one gets from the heat-producing energy of the Sun, the cooler the temperatures would be, but instead the corona -- one of the outermost layers of the atmosphere -- can be as hot as one to two million Kelvin. The solar surface stays at a balmy 6000 K.

However, scientists seem to have finally found the explanation. It appears that a high energy type of spicule -- a jet of plasma that reaches from the surface all the way into the outer atmosphere -- is responsible for heating up the corona. As the NSF notes, spicules have been known about for decades, but the ones scientists observed weren't hot enough to explain coronal temperatures.

The solution was discovered by scientists from Lockheed Martin's Solar and Astrophysics Laboratory (LMSAL), NCAR, and the University of Oslo, supported by NASA and the NSF, NCAR's sponsor. They theorized a new kind of spicule, which they call Type II, that is made of super-hot plasma and shoots out at speeds of over 100 km per second -- also causing them to disappear so rapidly that they were nearly impossible to observe.

Using NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory and the Japanese Hinode satellite (source of the image above), they were able to observe the Type II spicule. Though there are still questions to be answered -- what causes these super hot spicules, for one -- this is still an exciting development during a time of increasingly productive solar study.



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How's this Mussum. I broke it down.

Thread: The Ribbon and the Bubble
Our solar system is in a giant magnetic field. If you think of the earth's magnetosphere...well, the sun has one too, and its called the Heliosphere. Basically, it is the solar winds. The solar winds flow out in the form of a magnetic 'skirt'.

:parkerspiral:

At the edge of the Heliosphere, is called the boundary, or the heliopause. This is where the solar winds meet interstellar space and slow down...eventually to stop, leaving us in a 'bubble' of solar wind moving through the vastness of interstellar space.

:astrosph:

Now, when Fluffy and the heliosphere merged, it made a remarkable change to our heliopause! It created a RIBBON of magnetism at the convergence point. The only way to create a magnetic 'Ribbon' is through electricity! Or charge! So, this interaction with the heliopause and Fluffy has a large component of electrical charge associated with it. Not only that, but this interchange of energies, this Ribbon, dwarfs the solar system!

:spiralknot:

The boundary of the heliosphere protects the solar system, just like the magnetosphere protects the earth from energetic 'particles', like solar storms. Well, interstellar space has storms too, in the form of exploding stars, etc.

These explosions form 'clouds' of energy in interstellar space, and sometimes we pass in and out of them. Depending on their size, it can take centuries and even millennium to pass all the way through them. Depending how energetic they are, they can and do affect the solar system and all the planets inside them.

:five:

BUT, normally, the boundary protects us from these and the clouds actually envelope our little 'bubble' of solar wind, and do not really penetrate the 'bubble'.

It would look something like this...

:astrospheres:

If the clouds (plasma - electricity and magnetism) are really strong though, they have the ability to penetrate into the heliosphere and the solar system becomes more 'energetic'. Just like when a solar storm happens...

:solarprom:

...our atmosphere becomes more energetic and we see the aurora borealis.

:greenfire:

:arorbor:

But, imagine that energy that makes the pretty lights of the aurora penetrating the magnetosphere...well, it would cause disruption inside our atmosphere.

:fallingpoles:

Same kind of thing.

So, the question is if the dense areas of Fluffy...

:spiralknot:

...has it actually been able to penetrate our heliopause and enter the heliosphere, thus disrupting the solar system with more energies.

:noblac:

If it has, then we WILL change. These things cause evolution to occur, and extinctions. This has been proven through ice-core samples and timing of the clouds we passed through already, determined by astrophysicists.
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Has the Voyager probe reached the heliopause already?
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Has the Voyager probe reached the heliopause already?
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One has.
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Has the Voyager probe reached the heliopause already?
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One has.
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December 14, 2010
Voyager 1 passed through the termination shock and into the heliosheath in December 2004. The craft passed into the heliopause last June, at a distance of some 10.6 billion miles from the sun. It's currently traveling at 38,000 m.p.h.

How much time remains before Voyager 1 enters interstellar space?

A research team led by University of Arizona physicist Ke Chiang Hseih has analyzed data from Voyagers 1 and 2, as well as from spacecraft closer, to suggest that the heliopause at Voyager 1's location is only about 21 astronomical units wide (give or take 6 A.U.), or roughly 21 times the distance between the Earth and sun.

[link to www.csmonitor.com]
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Nice breakdown up above SickScent!
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