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why no PIN???????

This thread is very informative.

There has been a spike in the sun degreesK so maybe some more eq activity soon. Magnitude has been increasing and a 6+ on a daily basis is common now.

However as I look out my window and speak to my children we observe there has been 'little' change in our observations of the effects on our daily life.

Is this going to continue or will there be obvious effects soon???
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A thread we were discussing the same thing 5 years ago [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
yes good times:)


'tis a great thread u made here sickscent!!!


For those asking for a pin....forget it, you think the majority of glpers are gonna understand the greatest thing to happen to this sector of the galaxy in 26000 years when all they are concerned about are obama/dems/repubs??
Nope....the puppet show continues for most....
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The big bang on 30 March:

[link to lhc-concern.info]

Frequently the LHC collisions are compared to natural events in the
atmosphere. But this comparison, known as the “cosmic ray argument”,
contains many fundamental weaknesses and uncertainties. To start with only
the most basic problems in it: The nature, mass, velocity and origin of highly
energetic cosmic rays are presently unknown. Only their energy is measured
indirectly. Within 10 years of operation, the LHC experiments would produce as
many high-energy collisions as occur over the whole Earth in roughly 100,000
years. This also assumes that the comparison of natural and artificially-created
collisions, as argued for example in the LSAG safety report, is possible, which
is questionable. Far from copying nature, the LHC focuses on rare and
extreme events in a physical setup which has never occurred before in the
history of the planet. Nature does not set up LHC experiments.
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Great post and thanks for all your hard work.
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Thank you Sickscent.

Awesome job..
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Wow, I've done some research on the science of our system being a binary system and thinking that it would sure explain alot of evidence in the solar system, but putting it together like you have is astounding. I don't have a lot of time right now, but have spent years looking at specific double/twin/binary symbolism of secret societies and ancient history. Am overwhelmed thinking of all the symbols/stories throughout history! It's like individual puzzle pieces all slotting together. These are just off the top of my head and will have to spend more time on it really-


Double Cross of Lorraine
Caduceus
Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil(The serpent (ribbon) Double Ouroboros)
God creates light twice in Genesis
Story of Cain and Abel(The name Abel comes from habal meaning act emptily, become vain. The noun is hebel and is spelled the same as Abel, meaning vapour, breath, in the negative sense of having no substance and being something very close to nothing)
Esau and Jacob
Yin and Yang Symbol
Remus and Romulus
Male and Female-(Sophia, the Sacred Feminine)
Legends of a twin of Christ
Sons of God (Suns of God-Elohim?)
The Black Sun
The Christ/The Anti-Christ
Wormwood
Black and White Symbology (Freemasons, Chess, Templar Seal of 2 Knights on One Horse)
Rennes Le Chateau-Joseph and Mary each holding a Christ Child
Double Headed Eagle/Phoenix
Castor and Pollux
Ashvin Twins of Vedic India
Navaho Twins
Danaus and Aegyptus of Egypt ( also the lost tribe of Dan, the Danaides, Danu etc..but look again at the story of Jacob and Esau and the 12 Tribes of Isreal (Precession of the Equinoxes)
Sumerian Utu and Inanna
Mayan and Aztec Double-Headed Serpent
Janus
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While I was reading some of the pages here, I ran across something someone said about our DNA, consciousness , when we hit the center.

From what I understand ( from discussing this for several years with people)...what is going to happen on a planetary scale, is similar to what happens when the Astronaughts leave the gravitational field of Earth.
Something happens to humans when they are up there, NASA has known about it all along, but it isn't readily discussed.
Pretty much, when they are released from the field they have a "shift in consciousness" .
I've heard it compared to pushing a reset button on their psyche.
Some have Epiphany type experiences, and come back down here and do cool things like discover Noah's Ark on Mt. Ararat...others just cannot handle it ( I think this is where the changing DNA comes into play), and they have a mental breakdown. Sort of like if they had any frayed wires in there, the experience overloads their circuits, and fries them totally out....they come back down here and do crazy stuff. Like that chick Astronaught that came back and went on a cross country drive in adult diapers to go kill he ex lover's new woman.
This is going to happen on a Global scale.
I've also heard that every year as we approach the center, we will begin feeling this more here on Mother...increasing in level until we hit the center.
I have to say, in the past several years, I've been watching Humanity at large, and I can see the effect it is having on people.
There are more and more people just losing it, going out and killing mass numbers of other people...for no real reason at all.
There are also a huge amount of Suicides the last couple of years.
As we approach the Center, this is only going to get worse, more intense.

I have my own theory about who has the ability to make it thru this, the ones that their DNA will change.
I think it is the people that were born Indigo Children.
The ones that will/are turning Octarine.
Star Seed people.
I may be wrong about that, but like I said it's my own theory about it.
But it makes sense to me...
It isn't such a huge step up in energy levels from Indigo, Octarine, to what it's going to be.
For the ones in Humanity without the Indigo/Octarine ray, it's going to be like trying to climb My Everest!
I say this, because Indigo's and Octarines are already used to walking around on a differant plane that most people, more sensitive to everything...if we are lucky and are prepared, we will be able to keep in step with the changing energy fields down here.
We will FEEL the energy hitting us, and can adjust to it, because we're already used to having to do that in daily life.
The people not born with this ray, are going to be wrestling with something they have never encountered before...something completly foreign to them. I think that's why it fries out their circuits.
Maybe they just aren't wired to be able to handle this huge influx of energy into their system.

On a personal experience level....I have felt this energy.
I felt it actually hit me, in Jan. 2006.
It was a very strange experience that I've never had before, or another like it since.
It felt like I had run into a vortex, and it pulled me down to the floor, and it was very difficult for me to escape it.
I felt like a fish flipping on the floor for a brief moment.
When I did manage to get up, I felt the energy still there...I felt like I was trying to run with a pack of wild horses and not get run over by them!
That feeling of trying to run with wild horses lasted for a couple of months...it took me that long to adjust myself internally to be able to walk with it, instead of running as fast as I could, breathless, trying to just not be mowed over by it.
The pace has been increasing steadily ever since then...2006.
That's my 2 cents worth on the subject, hope it helps some...:)
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Quoting Sickscent:
They knew it was there. They calculated the passage of time through cycles. They probably never looked at it the way we understand it now. It was not time, but cycles spiral in form spinning out from galactic center, spiraling round and round.



I was having a discussion like this on another forum last night. This was my reply:

I've given a whole lot of thought to that.

I wonder whether because we humans only understand linear time, we can't quite grasp the true nature of time. We see a progression of ages here, but don't really understand how it all works.

Could they be simultaneous? Maybe. But not as how we understand it right now. Simply because of the fractal and always expanding nature of the universe.

Then the conversation went to this:

Interesting! Yeah. Synchronicities. I'm going to have to look in to that a little further.

Kai = Ka = Ke?


Hmmm, if I remember correctly, Kai was the Sun God.
Kai means "unusual" in Japanese.


Just as Ka is life force and Ke is kinetic energy. Seems to me to be pretty much all the same thing seen through different eyes?


Then to this:

Ke:

The kinetic energy of an object is the extra energy which it possesses due to its motion. It is defined as the work needed to accelerate a body of a given mass from rest to its current velocity.

Vs 50 of the Gospel of Thomas:

50. Yeshua said,
If they say to you, "Where have you come from?"
say to them, "We have come from the light,
from the place where the light came into being by itself,
established itself, and appeared in their image."
If they say to you, "Is it you?"
say, "We are it's children and the chosen of the living father."
If they ask you, "What evidence of your father in you?"
say to them, "It is motion and rest."



Does that make sense to anyone else?
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It seem to me that most of you on here really thrive on fear and all the doom and gllom that has been on here for some years now' this is a good site apart from all the doom and gloom it potrays all the time.
It was the same when we were approaching the year 2000 and what happned, zilch, zero, nil and this story entitled some of you are close is the same.
There is nothing going to happen in june or anytime soon ,talk about milking a thread well this thread has been milked so much that it is now it it's death throes but it seem that some people want to keep the fear factor going for some reason only known to themselves, why do you thrive of doom and gllom and why are some of you looking forward to what is supposed to happen when you really know that nothing is going to happen.
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It seem to me that most of you on here really thrive on fear and all the doom and gllom that has been on here for some years now' this is a good site apart from all the doom and gloom it potrays all the time.
It was the same when we were approaching the year 2000 and what happned, zilch, zero, nil and this story entitled some of you are close is the same.
There is nothing going to happen in june or anytime soon ,talk about milking a thread well this thread has been milked so much that it is now it it's death throes but it seem that some people want to keep the fear factor going for some reason only known to themselves, why do you thrive of doom and gllom and why are some of you looking forward to what is supposed to happen when you really know that nothing is going to happen.
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I don't see what's coming as doom and gloom. The Y2K thing meant nothing to me. But this does.
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It seem to me that most of you on here really thrive on fear and all the doom and gllom that has been on here for some years now' this is a good site apart from all the doom and gloom it potrays all the time.
It was the same when we were approaching the year 2000 and what happned, zilch, zero, nil and this story entitled some of you are close is the same.
There is nothing going to happen in june or anytime soon ,talk about milking a thread well this thread has been milked so much that it is now it it's death throes but it seem that some people want to keep the fear factor going for some reason only known to themselves, why do you thrive of doom and gllom and why are some of you looking forward to what is supposed to happen when you really know that nothing is going to happen.
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nothing happening/happened since Y2K?

i wouldn't be so sure about that.

it's collective. spiraling.
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Once I read the following, I knew you're full of CRAP.

GLP is a GIGANTIC 'out-of-the-box' THINK-TANK. Xenus, Krispy, Brian, RexKristos, aether, and others... the amount of information we put together is truly staggering. And it connects everything.

EVERYTHING > wtf

r U kidding me ??????????????????????????????????????

Close to WHAT? poop

lolsign rofl

your "information is: :poop:

now: :stfu:

militia
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All you can say is that it is BS, yet, you have done no legitimate research to debunk what SS has posted. You are obviously more ignorant and should count yourself among the sheeple out there.

" GLP is a GIGANTIC 'out-of-the-box' THINK-TANK. Xenus, Krispy, Brian, RexKristos, aether, and others... the amount of information we put together is truly staggering. And it connects everything."

"Everything", regarding this topic written on and researched. Pay attention!

This is good. You see, the majority are living in a box and thinking outside of it is the only way one will find real truth. Challenging points of view is necessary to WAKE PEOPLE UP. New World Order is real and AntiChrist is real. Biblical prophecy is being fulfilled.
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op, id like more info about the spiritual side of this



Spiritual growth and the rescuing of the human species do not occur from a higher intelligence saving us from our own destructive habits. For nothing would then be experienced by the humans for spiritual progress to occur. The same narcissist behaviors would eventually resume, only finding us once again looking for an external savior for salvation. This is the suppressing ideological construct of victim-hood raising its forlorn head once again. That must be a thought process that requires transcendence if ever we are ever to release the human condition from its looping noose.

Spirituality at this point in galactic cycles is an inner, personal experience, and must be acknowledged as such. In other words, you alone are responsible for inner growth and enlightenment. Spiritual realization and growth will not, cannot, take place if you are waiting for an external source to make the change for you, although in all likelihood it will precipitate the change. Expanded awareness and the higher manifestations of spiritual shift in the conscious mind begins from personal experiences and an acknowledgement that we are all one unified glorious creation contained, and integral to, our environment as a vast living organism in an energetic myopic soup.

First, you must consider the possibility, in regard to something being infinite and multi-dimensional. There are an infinite number of dimensions, though only a small number are available to us. There is no road map, so you will get different answers from different religious traditions on what and who resides in what dimensions or densities.

‘Infinite’ is a concept that is extremely difficult for the human mind to attempt to comprehend, and, in fact, can never truly be comprehended by any human mind. So you end up relying on the usage of analogies and archetypes and metaphors to construct some type of resemblance to the unattainable abstract concept that you are attempting to fathom and/or express. This is a symbolic use of language, for there are far more to an analogical thought than simply the definition of the words. This is true when attempting to explain spiritual experiences as well and is usually grossly misinterpreted by those seeking who have not yet any particular awakened experiences to give them a background or a foundation to base esoteric thought patterns in the proper context that the master or teacher is presenting. Much less a keystone to lock those patterns into place!

I must state at this point that much of this is changing rapidly in the face of accelerating dynamics surging us towards higher energetic vibrational levels of our solar system as we near galactic alignment. Manifestations of impossible experiences - whether dream related, trance induced, meditated altered states, or through external stimuli supplied by extraterrestrials, angels, spirit guides, etc., or maybe even the simple visual repercussions of witnessing first hand (by sight only) the entities and/or phenomenas mentioned – produces an immediate background construct that what we once thought was impossible. In the past it was something that had to be worked on for a lifetime, or lifetimes. The construct of something impossible has now been presented to our normal, everyday consciousness as an unmistakable reality. This is the coming into awareness that precedes and stimulates the awakening. It is the necessary stimulation of the present-day human psyche triggering an overwhelming need to search for the answer of what has just been experienced or witnessed. This stimulation is a driving force, it is the opening of universal awareness that drives a wedge into the present day understood paradigm, and initiates the cracking, and eventual transcendence, of its outdated modality. And the earnest seeking… begins.

Now, as impossible manifestations are glimpsed by those open enough to trust in the experience are being realized on a mass scale, the old paradigm of Master/Apprentice and Teacher/Student begins crumbling - as each is giving to the other, as much as the other is giving to them - into the myths of antiquity. This creates an exponential growth pattern that reverberates across genres, genders, governmental structures, religious dogma and doctrines, esoteric thought patterns, sciences and finally manifests as the advancing new paradigm.

The entire world is now going through this awareness to awakening process. And we, including the Earth herself, have to absorb this process and begin transformation at an accelerating pace due to the exponential law-types presented earlier. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin Law of Complexity/Consciousness, Vernor Vinge’s Technological Singularity, Ray Kurzweil’s Law of Accelerating Returns, and Terrence McKenna’s Novelty Theory not only are applied to their relative areas of research, but can also be applied to spiritual advancement, the increasing numbers of awakened individuals, as well as Ecological Collapse normally referred to as the Tipping Point theory. These are all unifying concepts that are recognizable due to the nearness of the approaching Singularity of human Complexity/Consciousness. We can easily visualize and perform the proper arithmetic presented in these laws since global events and occurrences of massive change are now taking place in the space of a single lifetime.

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Your thesis is wrong; therefore, I reject it.
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Thanks Sickscent. Great info. hf
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I might as well take a week long holiday and read this sun, wave, asteroid, fluff blahblahblah.....then again, only to come to the end of the thread that doom is coming. Why not just for the doom. No point to go through all the pain to connect the dots ......come doom come.



I'll give you summary:

Boeing worker hints that we will recieve an emp from the sun due to brown dwarf star passing by solar system and transfering to the sun a tunnel or filiment tube full of energy that will then cause severe solar storms that will pass to Earth a plasma tunnel of energy.

Also, we are passing through a secondary catastrophic event where the center of the galaxy sends out bursts or waves of energy. Hopefully, we will be protected from it, but it could and very likely will shrink down the sun's heliosphere and allow radiation and great energy to hit the Earth and cause a massive emp that will wipe out our electrical grid.

The Boeing worker says he is heading for the hills in June.

Oddly enough, there is a planetary alignment, in the form of a cross in June.

Lots, and lots of doom ahead for us.

For the brown dwarf will also and is now causing, strong tidal waves on Earth and the sun, making the sun have great big filliments that will snap and give us some warm fuzzy feelings in the form of great cme's or simply emp's.

The Boeing worker doesn't think the Earth will be hit by incoming comets and asteroids but said the sun will be, as it has already been shown to have happened, with NASA hinting a brown dwarf could be the cause.

So, how's that for doom?

On the bright side, a woman talking to an entity of some kind, in the eighties and nineties has basically said the same thing, about fifteen years ahead of the mainstream media announcements.

Some people are hinting that we will be changed by the radiation that is coming to us into beings on a higher plane of existence with special powers.

Yeah, like we would be trusted with those powers. Look how well we use the ones we have now.

The last part about what will happen to us spiritually, is optional, most of the article was factual and supported by scientists, but only when put all together, as the Boeing worker insisted.

What can we do about it all?

When the lights go out, pray.
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Great summary. Thank you!
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If any of you have questions about the scientific principles discussed on this thread, I suggest you contact Paul LaViolette. I actually contacted him about the thread that appeared on this web site a few years ago by the ESA guy about the tsunami from outer space, and he wrote back and answered my questions.

Sickscent, are you an author? You sound like the author of a book about 2012 that I looked at: "Everything Guide to 2012." Unfortunately, it was overdue and I had to take it back to the library so I never finished it. But the author told about the ancients' different perception of time, about how they viewed it as a place .... I notice from the Amazon reviews that the book deals with plasma too.



[link to www.amazon.com]
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I am an author, but have not published my main work yet. I have numerous smaller writings published that do not relate to these topics.
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why no PIN???????

This thread is very informative.

There has been a spike in the sun degreesK so maybe some more eq activity soon. Magnitude has been increasing and a 6+ on a daily basis is common now.

However as I look out my window and speak to my children we observe there has been 'little' change in our observations of the effects on our daily life.

Is this going to continue or will there be obvious effects soon???
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From various information gathered, my guess is the effects will begin to get more prominent in middle to late summer, with obvious effects before the end of the year.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND - this is not something that can be predicted! EVERYTHING I have researched concerning this phenom says that it cannot be isolated to a date! It is a matter of where we end up meeting up with the ribbon phenom, and that to try and pin a date on it is unrealistic. It is a window of time we must look at, not a specific time-frame.
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Do you think this storm was also responsible for the "sea of Glass" out in the desert in the Middle East?
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SS, Great Job. I didn't follow the other thread so really appreciate your pulling it all together in this one.

Years and years ago I read that there was a wave generated at the center of the universe that was headed our way. It would completely change earth and its inhabitants. If you weren't vibrating at a high enough spiritual level, it would be devastating. They named the wave - it was called the Holy Spirit. It is vast and all knowing. And able to read the hearts of all.

I was reminded of this when I read the part about people going into a deep sleep and most not waking from it.
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Epic thread, I'm learning a lot :O)
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Xenus and Sickscent, you are ahead of most of us on all this. Thank you for all the posts that you find.
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Ohhh, you have no idea HOW spot on you are! I lived without electricity or running water for a while, and the two things I learned are necessary to my well being in that situation were reliable refrigeration and hot running water. I love, love, love my shower now. It beats heating a large stockpot to 108 on the woodstove, then pouring the water into a gascan with a showerhead attachment, and putting it up on a shelf and washing FAST!!
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A long HOT shower would be missed the most.
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undeniably obvious

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undeniably obvious

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+1

One of Xenus' posts led to this event also.
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Oh yeah, something I wanted to remind you all of!

Don't forget, there is more information on the Fluffy thread ( Thread: The FLUFFY MAGNETIC RIBBON NEMESIS of the PLASMA UNIVERSE if you are interested in seeing more of this info. I just took more relevant parts of it and posted them here.
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Re: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment
Cradle Mountain, Tasmania

Australia’s wild country exhibits some of the most unusual geology found anywhere on Earth. Could the dolerite structures in Tasmania be electrical formations?

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Electric Caverns

Conventional geologists claim that water sculpts the interior of caves over eons of time. Could electricity have formed some of them in an instant?

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Southern Utah’s Catastrophic Past

Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument and other wilderness preserves reveal the signs of electric discharge machining on an immense scale.

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The Canadian Shield

Northeastern Canada is fractured and scoured down to bedrock in many places with almost no vegetation growing. Thousands of lakes and rivers inhabit channels that appear to have been carved first and then adopted by them.

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The Mountains of Patagonia

Long-standing theories of mountain uplift have never adequately explained the towering vertical features we often observe. But the picture changes when researchers consider the possible role of the electric force.

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The Grand Canyon: Part One

The Grand Canyon is approximately 400 kilometers long, 28 kilometers wide, and almost two kilometers deep. Could erosion by the Colorado River be the only factor in its formation?

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The Grand Canyon: Part Two

Simple observation of the Grand Canyon's geological formations calls the water erosion hypothesis into question.

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