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People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits

 
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People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
Adam Weishaupt was born in Ingolstadt, Bavaria (Germany) to Johann Georg Weishaupt (1717–1753) Professor of Law at the Jesuit controlled University of Ingolstadt. When his father died in 1753, he was adopted by his godfather Johann Adam Freiherr von Ickstatt who took up his father's position at the University.
Weishaupt later enrolled at the University of Ingolstadt and graduated in 1768 at age 20 with a doctorate of law. In 1772 he became a professor of law. The following year he married Afra Sausenhofer of Eichstätt.
On the suppression of the Jesuits by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, his life changed dramatically. He decided to join the Jesuits, now seeking safe havens in Southern Germany and at Ingolstadt.
In 1773, Weishaupt became professor of canon law, now being a Jesuit and set about supporting his Jesuit brothers hiding from persecution. Having joined a number of secret societies, such as the Freemasonry Lodge in Munich in order to see how they operated, Weishaupt finalized a new model of operation for the Jesuits in exile by April 1776.
With the help of wealthy supporters, including Adolf Freiherr Knigge, on May 1, 1776, Weishaupt formed the "Order of Perfectibilists", which was later known as the Illuminati. He adopted the name of "Brother Spartacus" within the order.
The primary mission of the Illuminati was to establish a New World Order through the use of science, technology and business, while abolishing all monarchical governments and the Vatican on account of their support of the destructuion of the Jesuits.
Weishaupt coined the motto of the Illuminati to be "the ends justifies the means". Each isolated cell of initiates reported to a superior, whom they did not know thus eliminating the chance of all Jesuits in a particular region being found and killed.
Adolf Freiherr Knigge introduced Weishaupt to several nobles including Duke Ernest II of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg (1745–1804) who was sympathetic to the Jesuit cause and promised to sent the Illuminati plans of Weishaupt to Vicar General Stanislaus Czerniewicz in exile in Russia. However, it was his Jesuit successor Gabriel Lenkiewicz (1785-1798) who recognized the value of the work of Weishaupt and promptly had it promulgated as the new official model and structure of the Jesuits in 1785.
The Illuminati secret cell model of Weishaupt is credited with saving many hundreds of Jesuits throughout Europe and was used to extreme effect in the planning of the French Revolution some years later. He is the first to conceive of the "perfect terrorist cell" model, since used by many political-military factions to this day.
In 1784, someof his writings were intercepted and interpreted as seditious, and the Society was banned by the government of Karl Theodor, Elector of Bavaria in 1784. Weishaupt lost his position at the University of Ingolstadt and fled Bavaria.
Under the safety and care of Duke Ernest II of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg, Weishaupt lived in Gotha and continued to write including A Complete History of the Persecutions of the Illuminati in Bavaria (1785), A Picture of Illuminism (1786), An Apology for the Illuminati (1786), and An Improved System of Illuminism (1787).

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Is that right?
Well that is very interesting.

But then how do you explain this?

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Every big religion´s leaders are part of the Illuminati.
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Is that right?
Well that is very interesting.

But then how do you explain this?

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Yes, nwo messiah will rule from jerusalem. Thats the aim of Judaism...
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"Weishaupt had long been scheming the establishment of an Association or Order, which in time, should govern the World." (Robison's proof of a Conspiracy)

There have always been Occultists who practiced the process of Illumination, but the term "Illuminati" was used first in the 15th Century by enthusiasts in the Occult Arts, signifying those who claimed to possess "light" directly communicated from some higher source, through mysticism. We find the name "Illuminati" in Spain about the end of the 15th Century. The Founder of the Jesuit Order, Ignatius Loyola classed himself as a member of the Illuminati. And, from time to time, here and there, small bodies of those called "The Illuminati", sometimes known as Rosicrucians" rose into publicity for a short period.

But it was the Order that Dr. Adam Weishaupt headed that was the best known of all the Illuminati Orders. Dr. Adam Weishaupt founded the Order of the Illuminati on May 1, 1776. It is no accident that May 1st is considered to be a "high Day" among Witches! -Janet Stewart Farrar, Eight Sabbats for Witches, pg. 80,81 Weishaupt was a Jesuit Priest who was involved in "Illumination" or Witchcraft. In 1773, due to the pressure of the European Governments- was put out of existence by the Pope. And so, the Jesuits had to secularize.

University of Ingolstadt - 12.95 K Ingolstadt University in Bavaria had been a Jesuit Institution for many years. Weishaupt was professor of Canon Law there at Ingolstadt. He wanted to see the Jesuit Order come back into power, and eventually, he published a Plan to help the Jesuits take over the world. This Plan is laid out in a book called "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, in 1798, and is discussed in other books as well:

"Weishaupt had long been scheming the establishment of an Association or Order, which in time, should govern the world! In his first fervor and high expectations, he hinted to several ex-Jesuits the probability of their recovering, under a new name, the influence which they formerly possessed, and of being again of great service to society, by directing the education of youth of distinction, now emancipated from all civil and religious prejudices." -Proofs of a Conspiracy, John Robison, pg. 59

Weishaupt formed his own Secret Society and called it The Illuminati- after the "Illuminism" or Witchcraft that he practiced. Like Freemasonry, the Illuminati is a Luciferian Movement used to preserve and promote the ancient Black Arts of Babylonian and Druid Witchcraft. Weishaupt began the Order of Illuminati with a mere 5 members.

In order to stay hidden from the vast population, Weishaupt and his co-conspirators selected for themselves "code names". Weishaupt himself assumed the name of Spartacus, and another Illuminist, Baron Von Knigge assumed the secret name of Philo. As a measure of security, the Order would correspond, using their pen names.

Weishaupt's goal was and to use Humanism (Atheism) to do it with. Then he would set up a One-World Government. And in order for his plan to succeed, Weishaupt realized that he needed to operate as much under cover as possible, and then when the gullible world finally found out what he and his Illuminati Order were up to, it would already be too late to undo the damage or to stop all of the plans that he had already set into motion!

This was another reason for having such great secrecy within his Order of the Illuminati. And, besides assuming their secret names for their members- the Illuminati also tried to hide their location, as they traveled in various countries, spreading their evil Illuminist Doctrines. They did this by using "Secret Code Names" to tell the other members of their Order where they were. For instance, Ingolstadt, Germany was given the secret name of "Eleusis", Austria was "Egypt", Munich was called "Athens, and Vienna took on the name of "Rome".

The Illuminati even went so far as to invent their own calendar, so that the dates when they planned to meet would remain a secret! The names of the months on their calendar were changed. January became "Dimeh", and February became "Bemah", and so on." -An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and its kindred sciences, Mackey, (33rd degree Mason), pg. 346


THE ILLUMINATI- "THE CHOSEN ONES"

In the picture below, you can see a work on Illuminism on display at the Museum of Ingolstadt. Adam Weishaupt taught his disciples that the Illuminati were the only members of the human race who were truly enlightened or "illuminated" and who had a handle on what everything in life was all about. Weishaupt had his followers believing that they were the cream of the Intelligentsia, and that only people with the knowledge, mental capabilities and insight to govern the world and to bring world peace. -Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology, Vol. I, pg. 460.

Illuminism by Weishaupt - 12.95 K The Illuminati believed that those who were not of their Order, had the "lower class" unenlightened worldview, and were their social and spiritual inferiors. The members of this Secret Brotherhood had been taught that the so-called "Illuminated", superior new man is not limited by the world's traditional values. Supposedly, they had a pure spiritual nature that "transcended" the normal confines of good and evil.

This outlook on things that the Illuminati had was aided by the fact that they partook of the drug, hashish, which was the same drug that was used by the Assassins. The leader of the Theosophical Society and "Mother" of the New Age Movement, Helena Blavatsky, wrote about how drugs, such as opium and Hashish were used in the ancient Mystery Religions to achieve altered states of consciousness, so that the practicers of that religion could "communicate with the Gods". And the use of this drug, Hashish, surely caused those of the Illuminati Order to really believe that they were in some sort of "other dimension" and that they were "the favored ones" who were allowed to know and hear the "Great Plan of the Gods" for the World's Spiritual Evolution!

This feeling of being those who were especially favored by the Gods no doubt led the Illuminati members to have an extraordinary belief that their plans for the World had to be carried out and that thus, "the end justifies the means" was their motto, and nothing was allowed to stand in their way!


METHOD OF ORGANIZATION

In 1779, Adam Weishaupt divided his Secret Organization into 3 classes:

1) Novice
2) Minerval
3) Illuminated Minerval

As done in Masonry, the initiates of the Illuminati received "more light" as they progress up the ladder of the Degrees. Weishaupt induced mysticism into the workings of the Brotherhood, so that an air of mystery would pervade its entire doings. He adopted many of the classes and grades of Freemasonry and held out hopes that there would be a revealing of "deep occult secrets" as the initiates were on up into the higher ranks of the Illuminati. In the lower grades, the candidate was merely tried and prepared for the higher "Mystery" degrees. If he was found to be loyal to the Order and a good keeper of their secrets, and an apt scholar, he was gradually initiated into the higher degrees, where all that he had been formerly taught was overthrown, and radical and deistic theories and plans were then unfolded. Deism involves the reliance solely upon human reason.

An "Illuminatus" is a Master Mason who has received all of the light that can be gained in Masonry. Such a one is beyond the 33 Degree of Masonry and is known as "Master" of the Temple. Thus, the Illuminati's goal was to be an elite group of "Super Masons".

For the Order's strategy to be successful, the activities of its members had to remain a secret. Initiates were therefore sworn to secrecy, taking bloody oaths, describing what would happen to them if they ever defected from the Order or revealed its plans.

All of the Initiates were bound to perpetual silence, total loyalty, and complete submission to the Order and its leaders. If all of this sounds like the Order of the Jesuits, with the idea of complete submission to the pope and its church leaders, it is because Adam Weishaupt, Founder of the Illuminati, was formerly himself a Jesuit! One feature of the Illuminati Society was that of a system of mutual espionage. Every member spied on every other member. Every month the Novice, or lower level member, was required to deliver to Weishaupt a sealed letter that revealed every aspect of his relationship with his Superior.

Then when the Novice was promoted to the Minerval grade, an initiation ceremony was performed, during which time, the initiate was taken to a dimly lit room, at night. It was here that he learned the secret signs and passwords. He was allowed to learn who else was in the Minerval grade, but the identities of the members of the Illuminated Minerval were not disclosed. This is just like what is done in Freemasonry; only a few top men within their organization are allowed to actually understand the true goals of the Order.

Only a few of the Illuminati members knew Adam Weishaupt personally, and thus, although the Society if the Illuminati had many branches in all parts of Germany, to these few people alone was Adam Weishaupt visible. For this reason, those who had never seen him came to regard him almost as a "god".


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Jesuits are the spawn of the royals who are covert jews/cannanites...........same can of shat with a different label
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Is that right?
Well that is very interesting.

But then how do you explain this?

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"We have already fulfilled part of our work, but we cannot yet claim that the whole of our work is done. We have still a long way to go before we can overthrow our main opponent: the Catholic Church...

"We must always bear in mind that the Catholic Church is the only institution which has stood, and which will, as long as it remains in existence, stand in our way. The Catholic Church, with her methodical work and her edifying and moral teachings, will always keep her children in such a state of mind, as to make them too self-respecting to yield to our domination, and to bow before our future King of Israel...

You are kidding - right!??

you don't think that perhaps a Catholic might have written that do you!??/
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This type of propaganda no longer works on us. You need to come up with something new. That probably won't work either because we're figuring out the truth.
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Timeline:


1748

February 6. Adam Weishaupt is born (d. 1830) of Westphalian parents [CE] in Ingolstadt Bavaria. Fittingly, the Weishaupt family name first appeared in Baden and was anciently associated with tribal conflicts around the area. [House of Names: Weishaupt Family Crest]
1755

Weishaupt's father, George, dies. He is turned over to his liberal godfather, Baron Johann Adam Ickstatt (1702-1776), curator of the University of Ingolstadt and a member of the Privy Council. [VS, CG]

While growing up Weishaupt was educated by the Jesuits and was "accorded free range in the private library of his godfather, the boy's questioning spirit was deeply impressed by the brilliant though pretentious works of the French 'philosophers' with which the shelves were plentifully stocked." [VS] He studies law, economics, politics, history and philosophy; voraciously devouring every book which he came across. [VS]
1768

Weishaupt graduates from the University of Ingolstadt. He serves for four years as a tutor and catechist. [VS]
1772

Weishaupt is appointed as professor of civil law at the University of Ingolstadt. [CE]
1773

Pope Clement XIV dissolves the Jesuit Order.

Weishaupt becomes the first layman to occupy the chair of canon law; the prestigious position had been held by a Jesuit for the previous 90 years. [VS, CE]

Weishaupt marries, against the wishes of Ickstatt. [VS]
1775

Weishaupt is promoted to dean of the faculty of law. [VS]
1776

May 1. Weishaupt founds the Order of the Illuminati with an original membership of five. 13 The Order is secret, hierarchical and modeled on the Jesuits. The original name for the Order was uncertain: Perfectibilists and Bees were both considered, but Weishaupt settled on Illuminati - chosen, perhaps, because of the "image of the sun radiating illumination to outer circles" [JB: 94-95] The Order was, therefore, always represented in communications between members as a circle with a dot in the center ☉ This symbolic imagery - the point within a circle, the Perfectibilists and the Bees - is also reflective of Weishaupt's fascination with Eleusinian 14 and Pythagorean Mysteries; no doubt learning of this early on having access to Ickstatt's considerable library.

Like most secret societies the basic structure of the Order was divided into classes and degrees, in the following manner:

1. The Nursery
1. Preparatory Literary Essay
2. Novitiate (Novice)
3. Minerval (Brethren of Minerva, Academy of Illuminism)
4. Illuminatus Minor
2. Symbolic Freemasonry
1. Apprentice
2. Fellow Craft
3. Master
4.
1. Scots Major Illuminatus
2. Scots Illuminatus Dirigens (Directory)
3. Mysteries
1. Lesser
1. Presbyter, Priest, or Epopt
2. Prince or Regent
2. Greater
1. Magus
2. Rex or King

"The Zoroastrian-Manichaean cult of fire was central to the otherwise eclectic symbolism of the Illuminists; their calendar was based on Persian rather than classical or Christian models." [JB: 95] Weishaupt explains: "The allegory in which the Mysteries and Higher Grades must be clothed is Fire Worship and the whole philosophy of Zoroaster or of the old Parsees 15 who nowadays only remain in India; therefore in the further degrees the Order is called 'Fire Worship' (Feuerdienst), the 'Fire Order,' or the 'Persian Order' - that is, something magnificent beyond all expectation." [NW: 201] Weishaupt constructed the Illuminati calendar to commemorate the date of the Persian King Yazdegerd III (632 AD) [MI] - the Parsees (Parsis) still use the same dating system to this day. 16 Barruel relates how the Illuminati Novice in-training "must … learn how to date his letters, and be conversant with the Illuminized Hegira or Calendar; for all letters which he will receive in future will be dated according to the Persian era, caled [sic] Jezdegert and beginning A.D. 630. The year begins with the Illuminees on the first of Pharavardin, which answer to the 21st of March. Their first month has no less than forty-one days; the following months, instead of being called May, June, July, August, September, and October, are Adarpahascht, Chardad, Thirmeh, Merdedmeh, Shaharimeh, Meharmeh: November and December are Abenmeh, Adameh: January and February, Dimeh, and Benmeh: The month of March only has twenty days, and is called Asphandar." [AB: 429; emphasis in original] 17

For the Novice, the letters to his Superior are to be written in cipher: "he must make himself master of that cypher, which is to serve him until initiated into the higher degrees, when he will be entrusted with the hieroglyphics of the Order." [AB: 429] Barruel (p.438) displays the first cipher 18 introduced to the Illuminati Novice:
A B C D E F G H I K L M
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
N O P Q R S T U W X Y Z
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24

The Hieroglyphic cipher used in the higher Scotch Knight degrees is also reproduced by Barruel:


The Bavarian Illuminati were set up for "political intriguing rather than in speculation" [NW: 201], the Illuminati became "much more characteristic of a militia in action than an order with initiations." [JB: 95] Weishaupt's contempt for certain esoteric pursuits - as a "thing-in-itself" - was widely known: "... in Weishaupt's system the phraseology of Judaism, the Cabalistic legends of Freemasonry, the mystical imaginings of the Martinistes, play at first no part at all. For all forms of 'theosophy,' occultism, spiritualism, and magic Weishaupt expresses nothing but contempt, and the Rose-Croix masons are bracketed with the Jesuits by the Illuminati as enemies it is necessary to outwit at every turn. Consequently no degree of Rose-Croix finds a place in Weishaupt's system, as in all the other Masonic orders of the day which drew their influence from Eastern or Cabalistic 19 sources." [NW: 200]

Weishaupt seems to have shown the most disdain towards the occult pursuits of his own time; of the ancient mysteries he has nothing but high regard. The Insinuators, while in pursuit of potential recruits, "must remark, that there exists doctrines solely transmitted by secret traditions, because they are above the comprehension of common minds. In proof of his assertions he will cite the Gymnosophists in the Indies, the Priests of Isis in Egypt, and those of Eleusis and the Pythagorean School in Greece." [AB: 422]

Ascending the Illuminati hierarchy wasn't so much for the purpose of attaining wisdom as to be "remade into a totally loyal servant of a universal mission." [JB: 94] In a letter to fellow Illuminist, Xavier Zwack, dated Mar 10 1778, Weishaupt had said, "We cannot use people as they are, but begin by making them over." [JB: 94]
1777

Weishaupt is initiated into Freemasonry, in Munich, at the Lodge Theodore of Good Counsel. By the middle of 1779, Weishaupt's "Insinuators" had completely wrestled control of the Lodge and it was regarded as part of the Order of the Illuminati. [VS]
1780

February 8. Weishaupt's wife dies. [VS]

July. Baron von Knigge is initiated into the Order. [VS] Knigge was connected to the court of Hesse-Cassel [VS] and a prominent Strict Observance freemason. He subsequently restructured the Order and recruited many prominent members: "the notion of restricting the field of recruiting solely to the young was abandoned, and this phase of the propaganda was widened so as to include men of experience whose wisdom and influence might be counted upon to assist in attaining the objects of the order." [VS] By 1784, largely due to Knigge's circle of influence, the Illuminati had "between two and three thousand members." [VS]
1782

July 16. Congress of Wilhelmsbad convened. Probably the most significant event of the era as far as any official coalition between secret society factions:

“At Wilhelmsbad, near the city of Hanau in Hesse-Cassel, was held the most important Masonic Congress of the eighteenth century. It was convoked by Ferdinand, Duke of Brunswick, 20 Grand Master of the Order of Strict Observance ... there were delegates from Upper and Lower Germany, from Holland, Russia, Italy, France, and Austria; and the order of the Illuminati was represented by the Baron Von Knigge. It is not therefore surprising that the most heterogeneous opinions were expressed.”
- Albert G. Mackey. Mackey's Revised Encyclopedia Of Freemasonry, under "Wilhelmsbad, Congress of"

"...it was not until the Congress de Wilhelmsbad that the alliance between Illuminism and Freemasonry was finally sealed....What passed at this terrible Congress will never be known to the outside world, for even those men who had been drawn unwittingly into the movement, and now heard for the first time the real designs of the leaders, were under oath to reveal nothing. One such honest Freemason, the Comte de Virieu, a member of Martiniste Lodge at Lyons, returning from the Congre's de Wilhelmsbad could not conceal his alarm, and when questioned on the 'tragic secrets' he had brought back with him, replied: 'I will not confide them to you. I can only tell you that all this is very much more serious than you think. The conspiracy which is being woven is so well thought out that it will be, so to speak, impossible for the monarchy and the Church to escape from it." From this time onwards, says his biographer, M. Costa de Beauregard, 'the Comte de Virieu could only speak of Freemasonry with horror.'" (Nesta H. Webster. World Revolution - The Plot Against Civilization, p. 18.)
1784

April 20. Baron von Kbye byeesigns from the Illuminati. His quarrels with Weishaupt over the direction and management of the Order had reached a boiling point. A certain amount of jealousy was apparent from both parties - though Weishaupt certainly was a Machiavellian, by all accounts. On July 1st Knigge signs a formal agreement to return all property, rituals and initiations belonging to the Order, and to maintain silence about Illuminati secrets. Knigge was convinced of Weishaupt's Jesuitism; he accused him of being "a Jesuit in disguise." [VS, CE]

June 22. The Elector of Bavaria, Duke Carl Theodore, issues the first edict against secret societies not authorized by the law or the sovereign.

This first edict seems to have been brought upon by ex-member, Professor Joseph Utzschneider, who had quit the Order in August 1783. Just a few months later, in October, Utzschneider along with Grünberger and Cosandey, fellow professors with him in the Marianen (Marienburg) Academy 21 and members of the Order, presented the Duchess Maria Anna with an internal Illuminati document, and a membership list. The Duchess was thoroughly alarmed and passed it on to the Duke. [VS, JR]
1785

February. Some members of the Illuminati appeal to Carl Theodore for an appearance before him to prove their innocence. The offer is rejected. [VS]

March 2. The Bavarian Monarch issues the second edict against secret societies, specifically naming the Illuminati and Freemasonry; shortly after a considerable amount of important documents were concealed or put to the flames. [VS] This second ban was more forceful, it "left no room for evasion." The government enforcers were giving weapons to "wage an effective command." [VS]

Weishaupt had already left his post at the University two weeks earlier, obviously knowing about the approaching storm. "He fled across the border to Regensburg, and finally settled at Gotha" under the protection of Illuminati member Duke of Saxe-Gotha. [VS] Thirteen years later Barruel writes, "[Weishaupt] now banished from his country as a traitor to his Prince and to the whole Universe, peacefully at the court of Ernest Lewis, Duke of Saxe Gotha, enjoys an asylum, receives a pension from the public treasury, and is dignified with the title of Honorary Councellor to that Prince." [AB: 400]

Judicial inquiries were held at Ingolstadt. Subsequent government measures were taken and some members made formal confessions. A considerable membership was found to be held within the military; officers and soldiers were ordered to come forward and confess any involvement. State officials, professors, teachers, and students who were found out to be members were summarily dismissed. Some were even banished from the country. [VS]

September 9. Utzschneider, Grünberger, and Cosandey make a joint Juridical Deposition before the Elector:

"The object of the first degrees of Illuminism is at once to train their young men, and to be informed of every thing that is going forward by a system of espionage. The Superiors aim at procuring from their inferiors diplomatic acts, documents, and original writings. With pleasure they see them commit any treasons or treacherous acts, because they not only turn the secrets betrayed to their own advantage, but thereby have it in their power to keep the traitors in a perpetual dread, lest, if they every showed any signs of stubbornness, their malefactions should be made known.-Oderint dum metuant, let them hate, provided they fear, is the principle of their government.

"The Illuminees from these first degrees are educated in the following principles:

1. "The Illuminee who wishes to rise to the highest degree must be free from all religion; for a religionist (as they call every man who has any religion) will never be admitted to the highest degrees."
2. The Patet Exitus, or the doctrine on Suicide, is expressed in the same terms as in the preceding deposition.
3. "The end sanctifies the means. The welfare of the Order will be a justification for calumnies, poisonings, assassinations, perjuries, treasons, rebellions; in short, for all that the prejudices of men lead them to call crimes.
4. "One must be more submissive to the Superiors of Illuminism, than to the sovereigns or magistrates who govern the people; and he that gives the preference to sovereigns or governors of the people is useless to us. Honor, life, and fortune, all are to be sacrificed to the Superiors. The governors of nations are despots when they are not directed by us.-They can have no authority over us, who are free men.
5. "The love of one's prince and of one's country are incompatible with views of an immense extent, with the ultimate ends of the Order, and one must glow with ardour for the attainment of that end.

"The Superiors of Illuminism are to be looked upon as the most perfect and the most enlightened of men; no doubts are to be entertained even of their infallibility."

"It is in these moral and political principles that the Illuminees are educated in the lower degrees; and it is according to the manner in which they imbibe them and show their devotion to the Order, or are able to second its views, that they are earlier or later admitted to the higher degrees.

"They use every possible artifice to get the different post-offices in all countries entrusted to the care of their adepts only. They also boast that they are in possession of the secret of opening and reclosing letters without the circumstance being perceived.

"They made us give answers in writing to the following questions: How would it be possible to devise one single system of morals and one common Government for all Europe, and what means should be employed to effectuate it? Would the Christian Religion be a necessary requisite? Should revolt be employed to accomplish it? &c. &c.

"We were also asked, in which Brethren we should place the most confidence if there were any important plan to be undertaken; and whether we were willing to recognize the right of life and death as vested in the Order; and also the right of the sword, Jus Gladii.

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Still not working Eric John Phelps!!!!
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Juan Josafat Ben-Ezra
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Manuel Diaz Lacunza S.J. (born Santiago, Chile, 1731; died Imola, Italy around June 18, 1801) was a Jesuit priest who used the [Jewish] pen-name Juan Josafat Ben-Ezra for his main work on the interpretation of the prophecies of the Bible.
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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
why not just put a W in Jesuit???
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08/13/2012 04:40 AM
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It was the Germans!!!!!!!
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08/13/2012 04:42 AM
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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
It was the Germans!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14328296


No surprise there
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08/13/2012 04:49 AM
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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
[link to www.biblelight.net]
Manuel De Lacunza (1731–1801), a Jesuit from Chile, wrote a manuscript in Spanish titled La Venida del Mesías en Gloria y Magestad ("The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty"), under the pen name of Juan Josafa [Rabbi] Ben-Ezra about 1791. Lacunza wrote under an assumed Jewish name to obscure the fact that he was a Catholic, in order to give his book better acceptance in Protestantism, his intended audience. Also an advocate of Futurism, Lacunza was deliberately attempting to take the pressure off the papacy by proposing that the Antichrist was still off in the future.
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08/13/2012 06:13 AM
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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
why not just put a W in Jesuit???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21788292


Would not matter even if true. It is still Rome's NWO not any Jewish conspiracy.

The Jesuits were founded by several military crusading knights.
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08/13/2012 06:25 AM
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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
Jewsuits!!!
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08/13/2012 06:29 AM
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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
It was the Germans!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14328296


No surprise there
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Jew_s run the west. Everything else is disinformation to the highest degree. The west is the poodle of israel and wall street.
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08/13/2012 06:34 AM
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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
The Jesuit order was founded by six "converted" jewish people. They carried out the Inquisition, using it to attack those that were politically problematic. That same ugly, twisted violence has come down through the ages, always the same flavor and driven by the same people, whether it was Columbus killing Arawaks or Conquistadors committing genocide or US Marines butchering Filipinos or the CIA aiding and abetting the murder of as many as a million Indonesians or the torture at Abu Ghraib. Whether they founded or took over the Catholic Church is something you can discuss with the Googles.
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08/13/2012 06:41 AM

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Re: People you have been told were Jews - but in fact were Jesuits
I can't help but wonder why humankind friendly plots require "secrecy" to be plotted?
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08/13/2012 06:47 AM
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