******STAND OFF***** FBI and Hutaree Militia Member NOW!! Update - Suspect In Custody

The pipe bombs were FIRECRACKERS.

Indeed. Won't work with Oathkeepers...

But, what if everyone involved thinks the other side is moving first?

These militia people would fold quickly if they took on the military, or even the FBI/ATF.

So it would be insane for them to start a fight.

The government would be stirring the pot too much if they started TRYING to take on all the militia groups at once though.


But if one thinks the other is moving, they will respond and things may well slip out of all normal boundaries.

It is a time for cool heads and for people to remind others not to over respond.

On ALL sides. (Including ours at GLP).

The only problem is, legitimate militias exist as long as the citizens allow them to exist. If militias are shown to be "crazy" by a few bad apples, then the legitimate suffer the consequences.

This is going to backfire on the Government, JMHO.

They made the mistake of calling this a CHRISTIAN militia group.

Some folks will think they are now targeting Christians.

Some folks believe Obambi is a Muslim. This will make them think further along those terms, no matter how far out they make this group out to be.

I heard an older lady say today, "That's how it started in Germany, when they started rounding up Jews. At first only a few, but others could see what was coming."

People are scared of this government and panicking, this won't help.

Thanks. At least there are a few cool heads here.

I predict all charges will be quietly dropped about 18 months from now. Except they will make an example out of one person. Probably the leader. He will get twenty years or so.

I second that, we need more info!!!

I personally don't know how to contact any of these people. Anyone with real contacts that can put out feelers on this topic?

This whole thing smells of a classic Problem Reaction Solution, Hegelian Dialectic.

When the laws become more destructive to the society then the proscribed behavior, then it's time to re-evaluate the laws, and by extension - the "law enforcers".

Waco. Was mult-racial. That's why they did it. Don't want people to REALLY get organized:

WACO: The Rules of Engagement (1/2)
[link to video.google.com]

WACO: The Rules of Engagement (2/2)
[link to video.google.com]

The first full-length documentary film to present the complete picture of the series of events outside Waco, Texas during 1993 that resulted in the shooting of 4 federal agents and the deaths of 86 men, women, and children of the Branch Davidian religious sect. A highly detailed examination of the interaction between David Koresh, his members, and Federal Law Enforcement. It shows how the FBI misled the public and American political leaders in order to focus overwhelming force on a group whose diversity of race, national origin, and apocalyptic religious beliefs made its members easy targets for lethal abuse of civil and human rights. Gripping and deeply thought provoking, the film provides America with something it truly needs - an opportunity to review the historical record of events at Waco. The findings raise doubts about the FBI's version of the story and their larger role in similar instances of law enforcement. [link to www.waco93.com]


Further details:

Waco - A New Revelation (1999) (Part 1 of 2)
[link to video.google.com]

Waco - A New Revelation (1999) (Part 2 of 2)
[link to video.google.com]

Waco: A New Revelation is the film that triggered a new Congressional investigation of the Waco tragedy, and caused the Justice Department and the FBI to reverse their long-held positions on Waco. It has generated a firestorm of events unprecedented in the history of documentary filmmaking. After six years of painstaking investigation, the complete story of the tragedy in Texas is finally coming to light. This compelling feature-length documentary presents new revelations about the events that led up to the deaths of 79 men, women and children at Mount Carmel on April 19, 1993. In the spring of 1998, under the Freedom of Information Act, investigators from MGA Studio's film division became the first private citizens to gain access to the Waco investigation evidence lockers. What they found was shocking. Upon examination, the evidence gathered under the supervision of federal officials appeared to contradict the FBI's congressional testimony, raising serious and disturbing questions about events surrounding the siege at Mt. Carmel and the deaths of the Davidians. Gene CullenSince 1993, former members of the FBI, former Special Forces and CIA operatives have come forward with new evidence to suggest that the FBI's claim is inaccurate.

Washington is listed:
[link to www.constitution.org]

The real, sane militia would never engage in a toe-to-toe fight with the military or Feds by choice.

It would be more like the D.C. sniper times 100, except the victims would be Feds and elected officials, not random civilians.

Last Edited by Evil Twin on 03/29/2010 08:37 PM

... and the wouldn't be stupid enough to advertise it on the internet in a chat room.

I wonder what would have happened in Germany if the people HAD panicked from the very start...

+1,000,000,000

I wish everyone could see that this is a sham! Unfortunately there are a lot of stupid people who already believe this stupid scam of a story.

I know the Patriot Movement is watching this closely but not sure what is going to happen next. I hear that the FBI is using this scam to get the Patriot Movement to do something stupid so that they can finally call in their long anticipated “Martial Law”.

This crap is so unreal, it’s like a bad movie! This stuff cannot actually be happening here in America! Thank God, there are a lot of people who are also awake and know what it going on. Thank God for the Patriot Movement!

Let’s face it. I don’t believe anything this Government says. If they say that’s what happened, then I don’t believe them.

That guy that some of you are trashing on this thread would likely lay down his life for you.

they can only take a position of defense. i hope everyone remembers that.

more to come...............

wait and watch.....in the next few days there will be more.. "based" on info from the detainees [water boarded]...and that will lead to a domesticate.terror level increases and obooboo using this consolidate his power....

While the militias would not (I imagine...) announce their activities directly online, they would likely announce any perceived attack, correct?

Does anyone have resources that would allow them to check out what the MILITIA people are telling each other right now?

The information doesn't even have to be correct, just what is being rumored in their circles.

Be careful if you connect with anyone, of course! No need to start anything because of your questions if nothing is going on, but still, I would find it interesting to know this kind of thing.

It may be telling.

yeah heres what theyre saying to eachother-----PDXBOOM. LOUD and CLEAR. am i the only one following this?

Not hardly.

[link to www.mfhr.org]

edit: i can't get any of those links to work, and i know that some of the links are active sites

hmmmmmmmmm

Last Edited by malu on 03/29/2010 09:06 PM

shut up satan

feed that pretty hate machine

I checked too. Almost nothing on that page is working. It is kind of freaky, as any set of links will generally have artifacts.

For instance, I have a web-page I haven't touched in two years that still has active readership and web presence...

I can't believe anyone would believe the idiotic reports on tv about this story. That these people were planning to kill police officers and then get them again at the officers' funerals!?!?

So then, 9 of these people were going to go to policemen's funerals...where there are HUNDREDS of ARMED POLICEMEN who would shoot them back and kill them???? These people had families, young children...they didn't want them dead!

Come on, folks.

And as far as that hutaree(?) website, who knows who put that stuff up there after this story?? I never heard nor saw that website ever before. Those videos I saw of them (supposedly) today on tv looked like army training films.

Remember Joe Stack and HIS website? With that ridiculous threat on his website about the IRS???? Who believed that shit?

A lot of this is made up shit by tptb...beware, and take care.

Anyone in position to know something isn't going to come on here and rat people out.

When you find out though, let us know.

What would it be telling?

Basically what the militia mind set is.

On the other hand, if anyone knows a fed very well, they may get other useful information, even if only to indicate their fear or reluctance to speak.

That kind of thing.

Report from a commander in Michigan I respect: Looks like the Hutaree had a fed embedded with them for at least a year and a half.

[link to sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com]