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anybody know about OTO?

 
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anybody know about OTO?
I have a friend who is an OTOer and It seems odd to me but I know nothing about it.
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Yeah, they're crap.
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I have a friend who is an OTOer and It seems odd to me but I know nothing about it.
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Ordo Templi Orientis Lodge has a website. It was founded by Grand Master mason Aliester Crowley, who proclaimed himself the 666 beast, and was openly occult and Baalist.

Oriental masonic lodges accept atheists and anti-theists (& Satanists).

What's called satanist rituals were invented by freemasons Aliphas Levi and Arthur Waite and Crowley and Anton LaVey, based on Baalist murder rituals.

I'd avoid that friend, lest you become another sacrifice for someones' initiation rite, seriously.
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Beware of some of these esoteric org's.Some have satanic
dark agendas ,Black magic,dark arts what ever you want to call it.

One of the founders of this one was Allister Crowley.

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i lived with a bunch of them for about 3 months.


a bunch of older men wanting to get laid who barely understand crowley's works.

laughable.


take themselves too seriously..



occultist/new agers are just as bad company as fundies of any sort.

actually they are all fundies.

and they usually (few exceptions) take their dogma too seriously..
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I've noticed a change in this person over the past 8 month, he's so dark and angry now.

I actually have been reading the various sites on OTO but GLPers seem to know more about this kinds of things.

Is there a way to help him?
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I've noticed a change in this person over the past 8 month, he's so dark and angry now.

I actually have been reading the various sites on OTO but GLPers seem to know more about this kinds of things.

Is there a way to help him?
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yeah..he's probably taking himself way too seriously...learning the tarot and some occult symbolism is valuable,

but if he/she is not laughing then they are on the wrong path.
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I've noticed a change in this person over the past 8 month, he's so dark and angry now.

I actually have been reading the various sites on OTO but GLPers seem to know more about this kinds of things.

Is there a way to help him?



yeah..he's probably taking himself way too seriously...learning the tarot and some occult symbolism is valuable,

but if he/she is not laughing then they are on the wrong path.
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yes definitely into the tarot and occult symbolism. From what I am noticing, his life is falling apart. He's been using Crack, pot and alcohol after being sober for over 10 years.
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I've noticed a change in this person over the past 8 month, he's so dark and angry now.

I actually have been reading the various sites on OTO but GLPers seem to know more about this kinds of things.

Is there a way to help him?



yeah..he's probably taking himself way too seriously...learning the tarot and some occult symbolism is valuable,

but if he/she is not laughing then they are on the wrong path.



yes definitely into the tarot and occult symbolism. From what I am noticing, his life is falling apart. He's been using Crack, pot and alcohol after being sober for over 10 years.
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well i think the latter is the demon

the former is mental masturbation.
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Yup, if humor is gone they have lost the trail.
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Head over to Club Conspiracy. ... That ought to do it. LOL
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I heard those guys like it up the ol' highway there.
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OTO?
Whatch out; it´s reversed spelling!
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My neighbor is one. He believes weird stuff, but they do get to have scarlet women.
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I have a friend who is an OTOer and It seems odd to me but I know nothing about it.
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It's stupid new-age nonsense, and should be avoided.
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Basically, another form of occultic veiled Satanism.

They really hate Christianity too.
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The O.T.O. is much akin to herding cats. Running the world would be too difficult at this point, a better plan would be to influence people's minds and change their world-view. Ahem...

As a OTO member, it's actually beneficial in some sense for a society to have a working class that doesn't question what's happening around them. Again, this isn't a conspiracy and is not the product of a unilateral movement - it's simply convenience.

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The mass murderer of Christians in Colorado a few years back, Matthew "The OTO Gunman" Murray, was a member of the OTO. He had a copy of their bible "The Book of the Law" in his pocket when he did it. It's filled with violent anti-christian imagery.

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The O.T.O. is much akin to herding cats. Running the world would be too difficult at this point, a better plan would be to influence people's minds and change their world-view. Ahem...

As a OTO member, it's actually beneficial in some sense for a society to have a working class that doesn't question what's happening around them. Again, this isn't a conspiracy and is not the product of a unilateral movement - it's simply convenience.

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Seriously. I'm surprised that lodges function as well as they do.

OTO running the world or a NWO control group?

ROFLMFAO... obviously that crap comes from people who have no experience with the group, itself.

I love my brothers and sisters, but it's far from world-controlling efficient.
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Thier evil, Luciferians.
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I have a friend who is an OTOer and It seems odd to me but I know nothing about it.
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Google Aleister crowley and Jack Parsons then make up your own mind.
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Well, know them well (Europe, US, CN). Not all bad, but they are mostly too much red-black. But not Satanists. More WICCA and modern FM.

OTO and Thelema is a part of history now. Part of 20th century as totalitarism, feminism and New Age.

They are mostly part of the Cult of Personality named Aleister Crowley.

Dont have contacts with them - was internationaly highly ranged member once - finished with them at 1997. Fine by "me". Dont need them and dont wish to have any contacts with them.
Only a part of a way in preparation for much more important mission.

Tell your friend to think again about his membership there.

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I have a friend who is an OTOer and It seems odd to me but I know nothing about it.





Ordo Templi Orientis Lodge has a website. It was founded by Grand Master mason Aliester Crowley, who proclaimed himself the 666 beast, and was openly occult and Baalist.

Oriental masonic lodges accept atheists and anti-theists (& Satanists).

What's called satanist rituals were invented by freemasons Aliphas Levi and Arthur Waite and Crowley and Anton LaVey, based on Baalist murder rituals.

I'd avoid that friend, lest you become another sacrifice for someones' initiation rite, seriously.
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You hodge podged the facts...OTO was around longer than Crowley I believe. And Golden Dawn. I don't agree about the Baal worship either. Certainly antichristian or worse.

There was (and is) a lot of superstitious and questionable mystical metaphysical mumbo jumbo rife in people that are looking for that certain "something" in their lives and are willing to pay any price real or imagined to get it..

I don't think they get it.
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I have a friend who is an OTOer and It seems odd to me but I know nothing about it.





Ordo Templi Orientis Lodge has a website. It was founded by Grand Master mason Aliester Crowley, who proclaimed himself the 666 beast, and was openly occult and Baalist.

Oriental masonic lodges accept atheists and anti-theists (& Satanists).

What's called satanist rituals were invented by freemasons Aliphas Levi and Arthur Waite and Crowley and Anton LaVey, based on Baalist murder rituals.

I'd avoid that friend, lest you become another sacrifice for someones' initiation rite, seriously.
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You hodge podged the facts...OTO was around longer than Crowley I believe. And Golden Dawn. I don't agree about the Baal worship either. Certainly antichristian or worse.

There was (and is) a lot of superstitious and questionable mystical metaphysical mumbo jumbo rife in people that are looking for that certain "something" in their lives and are willing to pay any price real or imagined to get it..

I don't think they get it.
 Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant



Sorry about the run on sentence.
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i lived with a bunch of them for about 3 months.

a bunch of older men wanting to get laid who barely understand crowley's works.

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yeah, that's usually how it works with occult belief systems and "alternative" religions/rites... it attracts women who want to attract a soul mate and men who want to attract hot ass.

sleepy pretty low-brow.
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Ordo Templi Orientis Lodge has a website. It was founded by Grand Master mason Aliester Crowley, who proclaimed himself the 666 beast, and was openly occult and Baalist.
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Don't think it was actually founded by Crowley.
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yeah, that's usually how it works with occult belief systems and "alternative" religions/rites... it attracts women who want to attract a soul mate and men who want to attract hot ass.

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definitely.
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Yes, the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) was founded by a man named Alistair Crowley in the twenties or thirties. It has a ritual it is centered on called the "Babylon Rite" which is highly sexual. They are a naughty bunch.

This is not however unusual. In Wicca when casting a spell there is an essential part called raising energy. Sexual energy is very powerful and if one knows how to use it right can help cast the spell more efficiently. Casting a spell in Wicca is taking a thought (the desire) and casting it into the cosmic ether and this brings about subtle changes that bring the desire to fruition. Sex magick casts the spell into the cosmic ether very forcefully.

The Babylon Rite was thought to be a means of bringing in the Anti-Christ. To believe in an Anti-Christ in the first place indicates that Crowley and the OTO did believe in God and Jesus. They couldn't possibly be good Wiccans then.

Crowley died in the mid forties and wanted Gerald Gardner, the founder of American Wicca to take over. Gardner also died. The OTO dissolved into obscurity but we still have a legacy to this day.

One disciple of the OTO was Jack Parsons, an American rocket scientist who was mysteriously killed in his home where he kept a small lab. His friend L. Ron Hubbard was trying to become the leader of the OTO but Crowley like parsins bests. Hubbard went on to be the founder of Scientology.

This is all so ... abridged.

I suggest you check it out for yourself.
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Ask Aleister Crowley? Here's something semi on point

[link to vigilantcitizen.com]
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hehe yups we know :)

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