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The field of HUMAN ENERGY

 
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Hi Aether watching that vid now...I've heard the theories of course, but I must admit, it's really intriguing... I haven't seen all of it yet, keep getting interrupted, but what if this lost civilization wasn't lost.... I mean civilizations don't just disappear...It seems they had very advanced knowledge and technology. What if they left? Maybe they're still around even... I mean I've found flint tools thousands of years old...I believe they have found flint tools several hundred thousand years old in Suffolk....If we can find that, why can't we find evidence that corroborates the existence of this "lost" civilization... Only 3 possibilities I can think of at this point, A)They packed up, erased as much of their existence as they could. B) Their discovery is being surpressed by certain people. C) They didn't exist. Given the evidence option C seems unlikely though...

Anyway going back to watch the vid.
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indi you are clever....we did not always live alone on this planet...
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indi you are clever....we did not always live alone on this planet...
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Yeah...that's what I was thinking...why did they leave though? Or hide their presence...
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Just bookmarking for later... [link to www.theancientweb.com]

Why would an entire culture "hide"...

Maybe they knew of a coming cataclysm...But when it comes it's a disaster never imagined and any preparations that were made were insufficient...

1dunno1

They tried?
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Just bookmarking for later... [link to www.theancientweb.com]

Why would an entire culture "hide"...

Maybe they knew of a coming cataclysm...But when it comes it's a disaster never imagined and any preparations that were made were insufficient...

They tried?
 Quoting: Aruna


hi aruna...all human cultures remember the golden age:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

there is no record or memory of a lifestyle before the golden age... humans only experienced the mental and physical lifestly of golden age environment prior to it`s natural ending

humans did live with other species of intelligent life of not earth origin ... within that environment of golden age it was unnoticeable because human state of mind was different to what it is now

non origin species maintained mechanical ability to leave.. humans maintained traditional ability (dieing correctly)..

the trauma of the event over time altered human state of mind
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Just bookmarking for later... [link to www.theancientweb.com]

Why would an entire culture "hide"...

Maybe they knew of a coming cataclysm...But when it comes it's a disaster never imagined and any preparations that were made were insufficient...

1dunno1

They tried?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Yeah that could have happened, but why can't we find any tangible evidence of their existence? Assuming they had access to advanced technology, why haven't we found remnants of that technology. I'm not talking about the structures they left behind, but the artefacts used in their creation. According to the vid they used powertools and such...if they were overwhelmed by a sudden catastrophe, shouldn't we have found some of it... Then again it happened eons ago...

So do you guys think we're on the precipice of such an event again?
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there is no record or memory of a lifestyle before the golden age... humans only experienced the mental and physical lifestly of golden age environment prior to it`s natural ending

humans did live with other species of intelligent life of not earth origin ... within that environment of golden age it was unnoticeable because human state of mind was different to what it is now

non origin species maintained mechanical ability to leave.. humans maintained traditional ability (dieing correctly)..

the trauma of the event over time altered human state of mind
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A non-earth origin species chose to leave for the "event" but human chose to take a traditional path of the physical birth/death cycle? Is that what you mean by that? And the trauma of that repeated cycle is what keeps us from "remembering" pre-golden age era...or do you mean the reason human does not have memories of that pre-golden age era is because there was not one for humanity (as we know humanity today)?
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Assuming they had access to advanced technology, why haven't we found remnants of that technology.

So do you guys think we're on the precipice of such an event again?
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I always come back to the same thought when that question of "no evidence" comes up and I think maybe the "technology" was something that was harmonius with nature...that wouldn't be found after time. We are kind of conditioned to think hardware, metal, wires etc...when it comes to technology...but when you think of the human energy fields and how "electricity" works there are natural conductors besides what WE know right now...controlling matter with thought...etc...

And as for being on the verge of this event again? I think we are...
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Assuming they had access to advanced technology, why haven't we found remnants of that technology.

So do you guys think we're on the precipice of such an event again?


I always come back to the same thought when that question of "no evidence" comes up and I think maybe the "technology" was something that was harmonius with nature...that wouldn't be found after time. We are kind of conditioned to think hardware, metal, wires etc...when it comes to technology...but when you think of the human energy fields and how "electricity" works there are natural conductors besides what WE know right now...controlling matter with thought...etc...

And as for being on the verge of this event again? I think we are...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna



So many of you are looking for giant metal structures or conductors.

The knowledge that is genius comes with knowing how to use nature as a conductor. Most of this stuff didn't take place on this plane.
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Assuming they had access to advanced technology, why haven't we found remnants of that technology.

So do you guys think we're on the precipice of such an event again?


I always come back to the same thought when that question of "no evidence" comes up and I think maybe the "technology" was something that was harmonius with nature...that wouldn't be found after time. We are kind of conditioned to think hardware, metal, wires etc...when it comes to technology...but when you think of the human energy fields and how "electricity" works there are natural conductors besides what WE know right now...controlling matter with thought...etc...

And as for being on the verge of this event again? I think we are...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna



Hmmm that's an interesting thought...and it ties in nicely with the other content of this thread. Our thought shaping the universe. Matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, maybe they found a way to influence these vibrations... It would explain the absence of physical evidence. I think I'm going to look into the Egyptian practice of "magic", see if it relates to this...

I believe so too...maybe not a catastrophic event, but change is coming.
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UFO filmed over the Vatican by U.S. ambassador security guards
[link to www.openminds.tv]

tounge
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So many of you are looking for giant metal structures or conductors.

The knowledge that is genius comes with knowing how to use nature as a conductor. Most of this stuff didn't take place on this plane.
 Quoting: Gradient


Well it's only natural...that's how we see the world. As our knowledge and experience increases, we might view it differently. We project what we (think we)know onto the world...in order to understand it.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Magic

The word "magic" is used to translate the Egyptian term heka, which meant "the ability to make things happen by indirect means". Heka was believed to be a natural phenomenon, the force which was used to create the universe and which the gods employed to work their will.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Heka

Heka literally means activating the Ka, the aspect of the soul which embodied personality. Egyptians thought activating the power of the soul was how magic worked. "Heka" also implied great power and influence, particularly in the case of drawing upon the Ka of the gods. Heka acted together with Hu, the principle of divine utterance, and Sia, the concept of divine omniscience, to create the basis of creative power both in the mortal world and the world of the gods.
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A non-earth origin species chose to leave for the "event" but human chose to take a traditional path of the physical birth/death cycle? Is that what you mean by that? And the trauma of that repeated cycle is what keeps us from "remembering" pre-golden age era...or do you mean the reason human does not have memories of that pre-golden age era is because there was not one for humanity (as we know humanity today)?
 Quoting: Aruna


not chose..maintained..different.

Since the stars would be appearing to human civilization for the first time from the envelope of the anode glow of Saturn that encompassed the "golden age" that would have blocked out the stars beyond it it makes sense they would have been awed by them and would have built monuments to them in their current positions, as they first appeared.

humans were unaware of our universe...they knew only their environment...their visitors like us today were aware of the scale of our universe and chosen mechanical options to travel avoiding the longer traditional death/rebirth function
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The effect of orgone on the Human Aura.

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So many of you are looking for giant metal structures or conductors.

The knowledge that is genius comes with knowing how to use nature as a conductor. Most of this stuff didn't take place on this plane.
 Quoting: Gradient


Back to nature then...the different planes...they transcend the "physical" universe which is where we (typically human in physical form) tend to look for the "evidence"...I think you may be right...the ability to perceive those planes though are why it gets called into question so often...there are not many people who can access that place...much less "prove" to others that what they experienced is real...which in turn keeps them a little quiet about it...because the world looks at their "truth" and sees some raving lunatic.

No wonder people like that remain a little hidden...

hf
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Magic

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Can't resist...I have this smilie...

:fumagic:

I have long felt that "word" was abused and made fun of...but sometimes it's the best explanation for things we just don't understand yet...
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to create the basis of creative power both in the mortal world and the world of the gods.
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To trancend the planes...one foot in...and one foot somewhere else...

ohyeah
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Hahaha that's ok I really wanted to post this smilie....it's totally unrelated though...looks a bit like magic though.



:Cowboyz:

Heka literally means activating the Ka, the aspect of the soul which embodied personality.


Hmmm...

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Back to nature then...the different planes...they transcend the "physical" universe which is where we (typically human in physical form) tend to look for the "evidence"...I think you may be right...the ability to perceive those planes though are why it gets called into question so often...there are not many people who can access that place...much less "prove" to others that what they experienced is real...which in turn keeps them a little quiet about it...because the world looks at their "truth" and sees some raving lunatic.

No wonder people like that remain a little hidden...
 Quoting: Aruna


or worse aruna...the roman empire followed close enough to the egyptian`s whom did maintain records and evidence for nonmaterial dimension (aether) being accessable to humans and creating effect known as magic

egyption records indicate that the practitioners of this magic used their feet and hands to postulate shapes whilst conducting their natural magical effects

egyption records also showed that this nonmaterial dimension was closly linked to energy/ley lines and monuments/hills in the minds of the practitioners

net result was the empire paved over most of the ley lines (straight roads) and used the cross to nail the hands and feet of practitioners along the sides of the roads or on top of the hills as a ststement of power not to fuck with authority of the state by magical means

to a degree both before and after the roman empire even until today this is the stance of civilisations leadership mostly because neither they nor the practitioners had worked out a common understanding of what magic in this context realy is
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So many of you are looking for giant metal structures or conductors.

The knowledge that is genius comes with knowing how to use nature as a conductor. Most of this stuff didn't take place on this plane.


Back to nature then...the different planes...they transcend the "physical" universe which is where we (typically human in physical form) tend to look for the "evidence"...I think you may be right...the ability to perceive those planes though are why it gets called into question so often...there are not many people who can access that place...much less "prove" to others that what they experienced is real...which in turn keeps them a little quiet about it...because the world looks at their "truth" and sees some raving lunatic.

No wonder people like that remain a little hidden...

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna



Its true, then you start to come to terms that you are not really you... you are actually somewhere else, and your body is the 'conductor' that allows you to function on this plane.


The communication between who you think you are here and who you REALLY are anchored in the spirit world is instant, so it seems there is no distance at all.

That is why everything in the spirit world is more real, and intense.
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Good thread. Important thread. Especially for those of us "muddling through" all of this as it were.

To those seeking answers:

It is very a much a personal path we must follow but there are most definitely correct and incorrect ways to do this. There are also effective practices, useless practices, and yes, even harmful practices.

We have access to a pile of information. The trouble is always how to sort and evaluate it.

Know you are not bound by the time and place of your culture but also understand that you are not separate from it either. That is, if using 'cross-cultural' sources be very careful you take time to understand the context they are delivered in. There is a difference between "appreciation" and "appropriation".

To sum it up in a word, I think the word is "Alchemy" - of which there are many flavors. Eastern, Western, Indigenous, Modern, and so on.

As OP notes once understood there is nothing "special" about any of this, save perhaps this energy itself.

And if I have any advice in that regard it is "don't over complicate things". Keep it simple, don't get lost on tangents.

Hard to do.
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The effect of orgone on the Human Aura.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thanks for the vid...I will have to watch later...but the “effect” of orgone...Reich, following Freud, saw nascent sexuality as the primary energetic force of life
That explains a lot! LOL...just not relevant right now... chuckle

not chose..maintained..different.

Since the stars would be appearing to human civilization for the first time from the envelope of the anode glow of Saturn that encompassed the "golden age" that would have blocked out the stars beyond it it makes sense they would have been awed by them and would have built monuments to them in their current positions, as they first appeared.

humans were unaware of our universe...they knew only their environment...their visitors like us today were aware of the scale of our universe and chosen mechanical options to travel avoiding the longer traditional death/rebirth function
 Quoting: aether 996585


So they didn’t change their option by choosing an alternative...it was their way already and they maintained it...but the mechanical options brings back that “spaceship” image...I don’t feel that’s right though. What do you mean by mechanical options...?


or worse aruna...the roman empire followed close enough to the egyptian`s whom did maintain records and evidence for nonmaterial dimension (aether) being accessable to humans and creating effect known as magic
 Quoting: aether 996585


And people wonder why there is such fear attached to “religion”. Separating one FROM oneself/higherself/spirit/soul...whatever you want to call it...keeps us from accessing it all doesn’t it...the INFORMATION...kinda like having all the plans (planes) at our access but are stuck without the “reader”...the perception...to acknowledge the knowledge.

I had a commander once who used to say “you don’t even know... the shit you don’t know... lmao
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learn how to do it with control
go to 'OBE4U . com
click video's link on top left
10 short vids free
this really works
promise you - you wont be disappointed.

also use blue surroundings - paint ur bedroom lol its amazing to step up in a digital enviroment.
I managed on second attempt and can do it each rest period since.
try for yourself
what have you got to lose?

[link to obe4u.com]
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Try some high colonic s. Try some tantra sex practices, Try standing on one foot. Fast, Master cleanse,Become aware of the pressure on each section of bone in your body, Feel the magic in your bone marrow, the vibrations are the Chi that move you. Extend that magic outside your body by learning to juggle or sing.

eat of LIFE. Belly bugs that eat flesh live on flesh,You are made of flesh. Eat death only with the UTMOST respect. Meat is not the ideal food to help destroy your EGO with.

When we loose our ego we will be ,once again, only one.
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learn how to do it with control
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Isn't there enough control in the world...letting things happen naturally as they should is kinda more the focus I'm going for...

It brings me back to my point of you need no instruction manual...no guru...no blah blah blah....what you have is already in you...?
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And if I have any advice in that regard it is "don't over complicate things". Keep it simple, don't get lost on tangents.
Hard to do.
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That is why everything in the spirit world is more real, and intense.
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Why do you think people can't just know this? Spirit is like the wind...we can't see it but we can feel it on our skin...we may not be able to detect spirit with our "physical" senses but we sure can feel it with our intuition and see it's effects within our physical lives.
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learn how to do it with control


Isn't there enough control in the world...letting things happen naturally as they should is kinda more the focus I'm going for...

It brings me back to my point of you need no instruction manual...no guru...no blah blah blah....what you have is already in you...?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


if you knew how you did it while jogging would you curiously try it again?
or are you naturally afraid of an experience you had no control over? most, genuinely would, so just honesty.
or didnt you look

happened early?
when the atmospheric distance for light was at a max.
you got 'UV'ed.
you either really did obe or you wish you could.
just a simple recipe

wise ppl learn wisdom
fools wish they had
be wise explore your subject thoroughly
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That is why everything in the spirit world is more real, and intense.


Why do you think people can't just know this? Spirit is like the wind...we can't see it but we can feel it on our skin...we may not be able to detect spirit with our "physical" senses but we sure can feel it with our intuition and see it's effects within our physical lives.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna



That is the trick of the world. The more you get attached to the reality here the more the other perception 'numbs'.


If left to their own devices, many people would just 'know' it. However, this world doesn't give them much of a chance to know that side of them anyway. Kids are preconditioned to the worlds expectations almost right out of the womb.
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