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The field of HUMAN ENERGY

 
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IMAGINE STANDING UNDER A VAST, SCINTILLATING AURORA BOREALIS, and seeing it change colors as you changed your thoughts. This exact situation led Russian medical doctor Alexander V. Trofimov into his groundbreaking research on human consciousness, in collaboration with Vlail P. Kaznacheev, and following in the footsteps of the great 20th century physicist Nikolai Kozyrev.
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ArunaLuna,

Now that I have read your opening statement and a few of your other supporting comments I truly believe you have also tapped into the eternal in us & that is what is not being taught anymore.Rare is it for someone to tap into that existence while being alive in the temporary flesh & blood.

I am not surprised that you could not find words to express what that means now that you have become aware of it because your words are my exact thoughts.I have asked myself how do I teach this which I have come to understand.How do I get everyone to see that which releases us from the bondage of the flesh & the blood,that which is temporary.

To know ourselves first is how we connect to that unseen energy. I do not believe what others believe because I do not believe in death for the victory over it has been accomplished & death's stronghold on everyone is based on fear & fear alone. And fear is their #1 weapon they use Time & Time again like clock work and it has worked since the beginning of Time.

ArunaLuna, think backwards & forwards to this current moment & tell me to the best of your remembrance,what were you doing when you first realized what your parents had not been able to show you or teach you about the eternal.Something inside of you triggered it & I am fully aware of what my trigger point was.This is a very simple answer & I know that you know the answer to my question. I look forward to your response.

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I don't think it's rare.
I think it's more accurate to say that a lot of people just don't share the same lingo in describing their experiences. Compound that with how few people there are out there who are even willing to discuss such personal experiences with others and I think you'll find the real reason it seems rare.

The communication we have today doesn't allow us to get to know others in a REAL and personal way anymore. Too much hiding of our true self prevents us from completely opening up with others and going full on bare honest in our description of our experiences...so it's no wonder we don't recognize ourselves in others.

And who is "they" you are referring to?

And fear is their #1 weapon they use Time & Time again like clock work and it has worked since the beginning of Time


We are our own worst roadblocks and fear stops a lot of people from even getting to know themselves much less see how their life and choices impact other people...and so on....

My parents are both dead, but I have to say...I'm almost sure I've learned more from them after their deaths than while they were alive, mostly through dreams and memories of the past...sometimes the things our ancestors say don't make sense at the time...but...eventually those lessons seem to pop up right when we need them most.

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reminder for me to write

soul/personality/charge
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"it`s absolutely critical that we stop being schizophrenic to think that our spiritual immortality is different than the coherence of an electric field"


touchy subject rolleyes


i imagine
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“Schizophrenic to think”....harkens to the concept of “mind parasites”....

Mind parasites would equal detachment from “source”. So much of what is said in that video ‘feels' right on....to the best of our human evolutionary abilities to connect with how we are innately wired...or in current structurally case to reconnect in how we are innately wired...

The functional symbolism utilized to enclose the biological architecture or what some call living community sustainable built environment or whatever we types are trying to define it as...is wrong....Bold statement....wrong....I know....

Why would angles be wrong to enclose the community....i.e. community consciously formed to synch to source...’source' being energy field of the here and now of earth and hands that touch earth then touch each other...

Water does not ‘free’ flow in angles...simple as that...If I wanted to utilize a symbol to ‘enclose’ the environment....which I would not even design to enclose a ‘living’ community....it would be a spiral....why:

1) It represents infinity....never ending 'living'....those star angles represent fixed state....super nova ends up being a spiral again to reform into what appears again fixed...still sorting that one out...

2) But again...harsh angles are used to ‘control’ flow of water. The illusion that we can control water probably the best example of anthropocentrism. Skewed language that does not even flow in the mind....”harness water”....like harnessing the mule or harnessing free flow or ‘natural' flow or instinctual movement of energy...

My first propensity is not to enclose with any symbol...functional or otherwise... Trying to design the built environment with ‘free flow’ of water with the natural grade of the land however is very challenged...why....

...a fucked up issue of property boundaries....is water a ‘shared’ resource or not...we say it is shared....but we ‘block' it off as seen...for example the gulf...or fence it off when comes to land...

...to allow water to flow naturally again the whole built environment would have to shift...to shift the built environment...shifts entire economic structure...religious structure back to pagan though we do not use that word anymore...which is back to matriarchal...flips the whole damn structure upside down...

...to be continued...because I awoke this morning starting to realize...fuck...this is the ‘mission’ I have had throughout all my returns here...owning that intent is heavy....I threaten structure....I remember the free flow of structure....

...why would these so called soul markers return within the ‘hippie’ time...not baby boomers that were born and helped usher in this so-called new age...practical not metaphysical reason....they knew it would all come back down to ‘source’ of environmental...mother earth...free flow of energy...or whatever we want to call it....perfect time to flip it all upside down....exploitation of ‘source' would force it....

....empathy for the mind parasite schizophrenia that would ensue would be there...because these soul markers probably remember the other societal shift....to patriarchal structure...which was formed to control...innate wiring...

...sorry for that being so scattered....
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It's not scattered...actually it's quite fitting.
It's the return of the yin energy.

Your topic, the sacred feminine...attributes:

water
flow
moon cycles
natural rhythm
silence

All these forces are so deeply connected to the yin passive energy.
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well done both of you on those posts rockon

shiver

wow

my day for shivers
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well done both of you on those posts rockon

shiver

wow

my day for shivers
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now i`m electrified

the gene is out of the bottle

fuck!!!
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well done both of you on those posts rockon

shiver

wow

my day for shivers
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now i`m electrified

the gene is out of the bottle

fuck!!!
 Quoting: aether


you know
i never know
util i do
which is always
after it has occurred rockon
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It's not scattered...actually it's quite fitting.
It's the return of the yin energy.

Your topic, the sacred feminine...attributes:

water
flow
moon cycles
natural rhythm
silence

All these forces are so deeply connected to the yin passive energy.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


So have we gone full spiral? The deja vu posted in this thread? It was the audio by Lash where he is trying to define what these mind parasites are in relation to Gaia and Pistis Sophia and all the Gnostic what not? Not just a question to you but to any here, but why would the embodiment of yin passive energy be seen as such a threat? I still cannot wrap my mind around it? Like I have some innate innocence that cannot wrap my mind around it. Because the free flow of water has the power to polish a rock? That was an allegorical funny or example of my warped sense of humor.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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well done both of you on those posts rockon

shiver

wow

my day for shivers
 Quoting: aether


now i`m electrified

the gene is out of the bottle

fuck!!!
 Quoting: aether


you know
i never know
util i do
which is always
after it has occurred rockon
 Quoting: aether


Now that is funny...not the genie out of the bottle as I saw Pistis Sophia in the Gulf...but the gene out of the bottle. Perfect...because they are exactly the same thing. Look at my avatar, aether...look at her....that is her...the free flow of energy...being ripped apart and harnessed simultaneously....raped as the Gnostic Gospel myth used as allegory. That my friend is the embodiment of our specie collective grief. Hence emotion is a innately wired part now...or genetically modified...junk gene...mind parasite...that never had to be there in the first place...

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It's not scattered...actually it's quite fitting.
It's the return of the yin energy.

Your topic, the sacred feminine...attributes:

water
flow
moon cycles
natural rhythm
silence

All these forces are so deeply connected to the yin passive energy.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


So have we gone full spiral? The deja vu posted in this thread? It was the audio by Lash where he is trying to define what these mind parasites are in relation to Gaia and Pistis Sophia and all the Gnostic what not? Not just a question to you but to any here, but why would the embodiment of yin passive energy be seen as such a threat? I still cannot wrap my mind around it? Like I have some innate innocence that cannot wrap my mind around it. Because the free flow of water has the power to polish a rock? That was an allegorical funny or example of my warped sense of humor.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


maybe it senses as the difference between leading and being lead

our memory is of a "god" who`s judgement is harsh
relinquishing "control" to be "lead" may prompt negative memories as in:
why would this be different to when our golden age was "ripped" from us
that is maybe the source that is associated
the "i will never trust again with my destiny" source sensation
if all our religions are shaman sourced experiences molded into control systems because we can never trust again, who actually wants to face a reality of having to trust again if you have been within of our ancestral system, for thousands of years, of authority to control your own and others destiny
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So have we gone full spiral? The deja vu posted in this thread? It was the audio by Lash where he is trying to define what these mind parasites are in relation to Gaia and Pistis Sophia and all the Gnostic what not? Not just a question to you but to any here, but why would the embodiment of yin passive energy be seen as such a threat? I still cannot wrap my mind around it? Like I have some innate innocence that cannot wrap my mind around it. Because the free flow of water has the power to polish a rock? That was an allegorical funny or example of my warped sense of humor.
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Now that is funny...not the genie out of the bottle as I saw Pistis Sophia in the Gulf...but the gene out of the bottle. Perfect...because they are exactly the same thing. Look at my avatar, aether...look at her....that is her...the free flow of energy...being ripped apart and harnessed simultaneously....raped as the Gnostic Gospel myth used as allegory. That my friend is the embodiment of our specie collective grief. Hence emotion is a innately wired part now...or genetically modified...junk gene...mind parasite...that never had to be there in the first place...
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I don't know what you mean by full spiral...it's not like there is real completion in anything ever...

The yin isn't seen as a threat...don't get hung up in fight concepts because it's not about whats right or wrong.

It's about balance.
Things naturally ebb and flow between postitive and negative...even water.

The influence will come back under a more balanced energy was my point. Look at the zodiac for instance, how under certain signs things like war and death are more prevalent...and this goes back to aethers golden age posts on the lazer thread too...

Whether it's cycles or what...there are times of destruction, rebuilding, balance/harmony, and fall...all in that spin...
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It's not scattered...actually it's quite fitting.
It's the return of the yin energy.

Your topic, the sacred feminine...attributes:

water
flow
moon cycles
natural rhythm
silence

All these forces are so deeply connected to the yin passive energy.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


So have we gone full spiral? The deja vu posted in this thread? It was the audio by Lash where he is trying to define what these mind parasites are in relation to Gaia and Pistis Sophia and all the Gnostic what not? Not just a question to you but to any here, but why would the embodiment of yin passive energy be seen as such a threat? I still cannot wrap my mind around it? Like I have some innate innocence that cannot wrap my mind around it. Because the free flow of water has the power to polish a rock? That was an allegorical funny or example of my warped sense of humor.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Like being at the center of an infinity loop; progress to the right side compressive; egress to the left side decompressive.

A couple years ago around this time I experienced many 'time' (entropic rate) phenomena associated with unwinding. All beautiful experiences, though many overwhelmingly intense and somewhat scary, but with Trust as a driver in pursuit of Truth.

Perception also exposed a fork in the road ahead and one path lead to more of the same with higher entropic decay rates and the other, which humanity as a whole had never experienced, led to the abyss.

I had a strong desire to go against the norm and experience the abyss. Nature is a sweet guide.
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yes!
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Yes I have lived in the abyss. It was the only way to remember the petri dish. Overwhelming what is seen there. To breathe in trust to come back to the surface even more frightening.

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i have difficulty with words, cycle being one

when does cycle become a pulse within awareness thus instead of being separated from nature as it enacts a pulse, enduring or enjoying it`s outcome, be aware that we are as much a part of the pulse as all else is and pulses are the living environments way

in practice, if that if true, it indicates awareness (information) exists that transforms our experience of what is called cycle

abyss is another word

i will make the leap and suggest it is referring to a non material dimension

Abyss refers to a bottomless pit, to the underworld, to the deepest ocean floor, or to hell.
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In the Septuagint, or Greek version of the Hebrew Bible, the word represents both the original chaos (Genesis 1:2) and the Hebrew tehom ("a surging water-deep"), which is used also in apocalyptic and kabbalistic literature and in the New Testament for hell; the place of punishment; in the Revised (not the Authorized) version of the Bible "abyss" is generally used for this idea. Primarily in the Septuagint cosmography the word is applied both to the waters under the earth which originally covered it, and from which the springs and rivers are supplied and to the waters of the firmament which were regarded as closely connected with those below.
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This doctrine is extremely difficult to explain; but it corresponds more or less to the gap in thought between the Real, which is ideal, and the Unreal, which is actual. In the Abyss all things exist, indeed, at least in posse, but are without any possible meaning; for they lack the substratum of spiritual Reality. They are appearances without Law. They are thus Insane Delusions.
Now the Abyss being thus the great storehouse of Phenomena, it is the source of all impressions.
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Tiamat. The churn of the waters of creation out of chaos. Later converted to the patriarchal concept of abyss as hell. As I called her archetype..."the unfathomable yawning gulf of love’s abyss"...."the sinking with synchronicity"...which in our current structurally programming would feel like drowning.

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And I think what science is realizing today which is taking it our of religious context is that there is the abyss of as above and as below. The churn of the lovely but oft violent dance of creation and heaven and earth. The spiraling vortex that comes to center hovering just above the earth. We all all just trying to wrap our minds around the opposite churns of the spiral. The moon is probably the one that will have to sort this out for us. To help us to see the dance and the flow of the tides beyond just the waves of the ocean but the waves of the light.
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And I think what science is realizing today which is taking it our of religious context is that there is the abyss of as above and as below. The churn of the lovely but oft violent dance of creation and heaven and earth. The spiraling vortex that comes to center hovering just above the earth. We all all just trying to wrap our minds around the opposite churns of the spiral. The moon is probably the one that will have to sort this out for us. To help us to see the dance and the flow of the tides beyond just the waves of the ocean but the waves of the light.
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Well said. Inner abyss feeding local abyss feeding grander abysses and vice versa. Entropy dictates progress, reversing the trend leads to a world of 'patterns', which underlie the current states of the material and non-material. As a spring feeds a river, proximal 'abyss' feeds the now, if we let it.
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i get it
it`s a velocity thing for me
nothing is ever instant and our universe is always quicker than any part of it but near instant is the norm
so if velocity isn`t matched information (something/anything) can and will be overwhelming within experience as it/they will be travelling at velocities that effects the observer to black out/faint (mental chaos/confusion)

in other words it can give the impression all is occurring at once

the other strange effect if velocity isn`t matched is called "negative group velocity"

the observer experiences the effect before the cause of the effect occurs
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Cycle used as rotation as a physical property and material manifestation. That is how I often hear it. Also a reason why I sort it out to see it as a full spiral. Not full circle. The cosmic egg thing that relates back to Tiamat somewhere along the way of the cycling of humans writing and rewriting history so we can understand that the physical properties are in synch with the natural cycles. When natural cycles or rotations change well the mind would be flipping to try to catch up with the synch. The body probably picked up on the synch first we would not know how to express it in language. Mind following might feel like torment for the human psyche.
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i get it
it`s a velocity thing for me
nothing is ever instant and our universe is always quicker than any part of it but near instant is the norm
so if velocity isn`t matched information (something/anything) can and will be overwhelming within experience as it/they will be travelling at velocities that effects the observer to black out/faint (mental chaos/confusion)

in other words it can give the impression all is occurring at once

the other strange effect if velocity isn`t matched is called "negative group velocity"

the observer experiences the effect before the cause of the effect occurs
 Quoting: aether


And that is why I might have been trying to wrap my mind around it your thread a few weeks ago when I talked about ‘mass moment of inertia’. I was trying to sort out the velocity thing. Mass moment of inertia still makes most sense to me. But because structurally it all looks like a frenzy or is a frenzy out there it might be hard to see that moment of inertia or hovering. But still I lack and will probably always lack the physics of mass moment of inertia that is right around the corner. That is what I emotionally preserve is coming anyway. But oddly I do not see it as a calm before the storm but what it would be like to recognize we are in the eye of the storm and find out wow what a trip to be in here. This is not as bad as what we were told it would be. Perhaps that awe and be still and know I am god type thing. Maybe that is what happens on a mass and cosmic and psychological and sociological scale before that twinkling of an eye moment of creation?

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i get it
it`s a velocity thing for me
nothing is ever instant and our universe is always quicker than any part of it but near instant is the norm
so if velocity isn`t matched information (something/anything) can and will be overwhelming within experience as it/they will be travelling at velocities that effects the observer to black out/faint (mental chaos/confusion)

in other words it can give the impression all is occurring at once

the other strange effect if velocity isn`t matched is called "negative group velocity"

the observer experiences the effect before the cause of the effect occurs
 Quoting: aether


And that is why I might have been trying to wrap my mind around it your thread a few weeks ago when I talked about ‘mass moment of inertia’. I was trying to sort out the velocity thing. Mass moment of inertia still makes most sense to me. But because structurally it all looks like a frenzy or is a frenzy out there it might be hard to see that moment of inertia or hovering. But still I lack and will probably always lack the physics of mass moment of inertia that is right around the corner. That is what I emotionally preserve is coming anyway. But oddly I do not see it as a calm before the storm but what it would be like to recognize we are in the eye of the storm and find out wow what a trip to be in here. This is not as bad as what we were told it would be. Perhaps that awe and be still and know I am god type thing. Maybe that is what happens on a mass and cosmic and psychological and sociological scale before that twinkling of an eye moment of creation?
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good emotional picture, like you said you approach tipi toe.

good idea as it avoided the potential overwhelm

the vortice fully engulfs us and is powered up and powering further up from increased charge (dense plasma)

adjustment to the increasing emotional vortical velocity experiences = things/information manifesting we never "saw"/knew/experienced/felt before
as our personalities (souls??) power up because of the same energy source (increased charge) we begin to synchronize (see/feel) by velocity match (process faster) the increasing effects/content (more apparent) of the vortice (information old and new)

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i get it
it`s a velocity thing for me
nothing is ever instant and our universe is always quicker than any part of it but near instant is the norm
so if velocity isn`t matched information (something/anything) can and will be overwhelming within experience as it/they will be travelling at velocities that effects the observer to black out/faint (mental chaos/confusion)

in other words it can give the impression all is occurring at once

the other strange effect if velocity isn`t matched is called "negative group velocity"

the observer experiences the effect before the cause of the effect occurs
 Quoting: aether


Okay I get the pulse vs the cycle now.
That's where the ten second "lets play catch up" feeling is.

scratching We're processors basically...and it IS about speed. (more than time) woah...
Gonna catch up here...
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This is one of the reasons I'm pissed the original mood thread is gone...I had tracked timing in that thread on days between these. :(
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This is one of the reasons I'm pissed the original mood thread is gone...I had tracked timing in that thread on days between these. :(
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now you tell us MISS SECRET tounge
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i get it
it`s a velocity thing for me
nothing is ever instant and our universe is always quicker than any part of it but near instant is the norm
so if velocity isn`t matched information (something/anything) can and will be overwhelming within experience as it/they will be travelling at velocities that effects the observer to black out/faint (mental chaos/confusion)

in other words it can give the impression all is occurring at once

the other strange effect if velocity isn`t matched is called "negative group velocity"

the observer experiences the effect before the cause of the effect occurs
 Quoting: aether


Okay I get the pulse vs the cycle now.
That's where the ten second "lets play catch up" feeling is.

scratching We're processors basically...and it IS about speed. (more than time) woah...
Gonna catch up here...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


The central processing unit (CPU) is the portion of a computer system that carries out the instructions of a computer program, to perform the basic arithmetical, logical, and input/output operations of the system. The CPU plays a role somewhat analogous to the brain in the computer.
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if we are cpu`s then the computer is........our environment?
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This is one of the reasons I'm pissed the original mood thread is gone...I had tracked timing in that thread on days between these. :(
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Aruna, if it is not too much of a sticky issue around the glp jute joint, why was that thread disappeared... If it is a need to know basis that’s cool....lol
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if we are cpu`s then the computer is........our environment?
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or are the two in principle the same analogy
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Re: The field of HUMAN ENERGY
This is one of the reasons I'm pissed the original mood thread is gone...I had tracked timing in that thread on days between these. :(
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


now you tell us MISS SECRET tounge
 Quoting: aether


I track my menstral cycle too...do you really want to know the details on that? Secrets are sometimes just common courtesy avoiding the tmi factor.

tounge

My personal timing cycles help me understand my processing of information and my turnaround on inflow. Same as your expression on feedback aether...I think anyone as tuned in to their own body (as I am groucho ) would have a highly developed sense of these ebbs and flows.

I only turned my perception toward it when I started this thread (and the mood thread shortly before that)...so I'm not an expert at reading it yet...

But that reminds me...in the movie the Abyss...when he puts that helmet on and they flood the face chamber with the plasma fluid and he begins to breathe it in scene...go watch that.

Tell me if that's not a trigger (emotionally) for the exact representation of this "pulse" we're talking about.

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