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Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav

 
PLutarch
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Geek the nick ;

statelet of your mind is widely known as pseudo historic bullshit.

stir Keep on stirring it's your great soup ;


peace



"Is it not worthy of tears that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet become lords of a single one?"


"Remember, conquer your fear and I promise you you will conquer death."

Alexander III of Macedon

SLAVA !!!


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Nick the Greek
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12/09/2012 07:17 AM
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Geek the nick ;

statelet of your mind is widely known as pseudo historic bullshit.

stir Keep on stirring it's your great soup ;


peace



"Is it not worthy of tears that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet become lords of a single one?"


"Remember, conquer your fear and I promise you you will conquer death."

Alexander III of Macedon

SLAVA !!!


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 Quoting: PLANK 29396175

This is FYRoM Revisionism - Pseudo-history at it's best.
[link to www.historyofmacedonia.org] FYRoM anti-Hellenic - anti-Western - anti-Mainstream propaganda-site.

Donski - Boshevski - Tentov - Belchevski - Stefov - Gandeto - Ilyov - Grezlovski - Stephou...

FYRoM's best are all there, in that psuedo-historical link.

FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs get to be Macedonians on the twin alters of Revisionism and Pseudo-history...FYRoM's Macedonian-Identity rests on these two morally and ethically inept guiding principles.

Without Revisionism and Pseudo-history FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs remain Slavic...from Serbian and Bulgarian heritage.

Only a harderned propagandist or a severley brainwashed Individual could confuse ancient-European Mainstream history with pseudo-history...and hold, that FYRoM's version of history is the right one.

Peace to all Slav brothers who continue support the Greek positions in the long running name dispute fiasco with FYRoM.

MIR...to all Slav brothers who see todays Greeks as the sole and legal cultural-custodians of the ancient-Hellenic legacy.
Nick the Greek
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12/10/2012 03:06 PM
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For a long time, the Slavic tribes resisted to adopt Christianity in a language they could not understand. They witnessed the Roman-Catholic Church hold the liturgy in Latin, they also witnessed the Greek-Orthodox Church hold the liturgy in the Greek-language. The delay earned them a reputation for being amongst the last of the Europeans to adopt Christianity.

The (Byzantine) Eastern-Romans realized that the Slavs had to be taught the Christian-Orthodox religion in their own root language. The baptism of the Slavic tribes was initiated under the Patriarch Photios. When Rastislav, King of Great-Moravia placed a request for teachers that could minister to the Moravians in their own Slavic-language...the Byzantine-Emperor Michael III sent him two brothers, Constantine and Methodius.

The brothers were learned in many different languages, they could speak the Slavonic vernacular with ease. The brothers created the Glagolitic alphabet then translated the holy-scriptures and the liturgy into Slavonic. The Slavic-dialect the brothers learned became the basis of Old-Church Slavonic, or Old-Bulgarian which evolved to become the common liturgical language that is still in use in the Slav-Orthodox Churches of today.

The Greeks pride themselves in bringing the Slavonic-peoples into Orthodox-Christendom. The Greeks baptized - Christianized and civilized the Slavic-tribes into the faith and cultural-traditions of the Byzantine-Empire, an Imperial and cultural-legacy that binds Greek to Slav and Slavs to Greeks in fraternal-bondships.

MIR...to all Slav brothers!
Nick the Greek
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12/12/2012 12:00 PM
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Macedonians are the Greeks that stayed loyal to Hellenism, proud to have retained that Greek-language and that Hellenic-culture which binds them, in backwards-compatible fashion to the Macedonians of lore! Macedonians are the Greeks that still live in that historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece...nobody has the right to Rubbish This! The blood and the Dna signature one carries today may not reflect faithfully ones current-Identity ethnic-pride or National feelings, cross-fertilization between the races spanning millennia has seen that. So this statement must be True:

The Macedonian-Name belongs in the Greek domain whilst Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek-heritage, even in the absence of Greeks from the modern-human population pool!

The peoples of the Haemus [Balkan] peninsula share much, we are all Byzantiums Children...Greeks - Slavs - Georgians - Rumanians - Armenians - Turks* and many others. Peace in the lands of Orthodox-Christendom! Learning about Greek-Orthodox Christendom, one automatically learns the history of Byzantium, Christendom in the Eastern-Roman Empire.

Greeks trace their heritage back to Byzantium along with a multitude of others. Through them...the Eastern-Romans, the Greeks connect to an older-heritage, the Hellenic one. From those children of Byzantium, only the Greeks can produce legitimate connections to the ancient-Hellenic legacy.

Blood and Dna No make Identity...education does that!
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Some things were not meant to be changed. Some things were meant to stay the same...the way nature intended.

Macedonians have always been Greek...this is the natural order of things.

By changing the ethnic and racial composition of the Macedonians...from Centum Greek speaking Hellenic peoples to Satem Slavic speaking Slavonic peoples, is going against nature and the natural order of things. FYRoM paid a heavy price for attempting to do just that. Ultimately, it has served to reinforced the Greek-Hellenic Identity of the Macedonians.

FYRoM...a Slavic country, wanting to name itself after a Greek-Hellenic name is not natural, on the contrary, it is going against nature. Macedonians have always been Greek and Greek have always lived in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece.

Some things were not meant to be changed. Some things were meant to stay the same...way nature intended.
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Macedonians have been Greek speaking Hellenic peoples from since the days of King Karanus. There was never a break or an interlude in their development path. They started-off as Greeks and they are still here today as Greeks...living in the same place(s) their ancestors dwelt.

Macedonians have always been Greek and Greeks have always lived in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece. Who can change or alter this? Some things you cannot alter because those things were never meant to be changed.

FYRoM's 21 year campaign to rewrite the demographic history and composition of the Greek [Haemus] peninsula has earned it a reputation, a bad-one...for being a shameless usurper of a history and a heritage the Slavic race had nothing to do with.

Yes FYRoM is a Slavic country peopled by South-Slavs from Serbian and Bulgarian stock, whilst Macedonia is a Northern Greek region peopled by Greek speaking Hellenic peoples from
since the times of King Karanus 808 - 778 BC.

FYRoM dabbled and meddled in revisionism and pseudo-history in order to legitimize it's presence in a place of the world steeped in Greek history...but it did that in such a bad way, in a crude and crass way. FYRoM's Slavist-orientated revisionist mind-architects took something good like the classics and Rubbished them, converted them into something Vulgar.

Nobody takes FYRoM seriously anymore...the place is kept at arms length, not given a second look, kept at a distance until the people there learn the truth about Macedonians and their distance from them. There is no relatedness between FYRoM - it's peoples and the Macedonians of lore.

The closest modern-humans to the Macedonians of lore are the Greeks...only Greeks can prove legitimate connections to them and their legacy.

Some things cannot be changed, ask FYRoM, they tried to alter something which was never meant to be changed and paid the ultimate price for that Silliness...diplomatic and political isolation!
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What does Macedonia mean in Greek?

In Macedonian it means Mother Land.
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12/15/2012 08:23 AM
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1...What does Macedonia mean in Greek?

2...In Macedonian it means Mother Land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471


Macedonia(n)...when this term is used, it is used to describe Greeks, Northern-Greeks that live within the historic boundaries of the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon in Northern-Greece.

Todays Greeks are the closest modern-humans to the Macedonians of lore...demographers will attest to that.

FYRoM's diaspora in the USA and elswhere have done their peoples back home immense damage by financing - bankrolling
much of the pseudo-historical propaganda found littering the Internet.

Those who still cling on to the Idea that they are Macedonian on the basis of an acquired name and a hybrid Serbo-Bulgarian language are in the minority...after 21 years of the Macedonian name being tossed around, the peoples of this world have become learned and knowledgable
about Macedonia and Macedonians.

Macedonians have always been Greek and Greeks have always lived in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-
Greece...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are not one of these!

Some things cannot be changed!
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Geek the nick ;

statelet of your mind is widely known as pseudo historic bullshit.

stir Keep on stirring it's your great soup ;


peace



"Is it not worthy of tears that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet become lords of a single one?"


"Remember, conquer your fear and I promise you you will conquer death."

Alexander III of Macedon

SLAVA !!!


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: PLutarch 29396175


Actually, in the end he wanted to be known as a Persian king.

Because the person he looked up to most was Cyrus the Great.

Not that it matters but,

why honor the man's wishes when you can use him for your own petty nationalistic banter? When you can use him to divide, while Alexander himself looked up to, not a divider, but someone who brought people from all places together?

Stupid thread in any case.
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1...What does Macedonia mean in Greek?

2...In Macedonian it means Mother Land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471


Macedonia(n)...when this term is used, it is used to describe Greeks, Northern-Greeks that live within the historic boundaries of the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon in Northern-Greece.

Todays Greeks are the closest modern-humans to the Macedonians of lore...demographers will attest to that.

FYRoM's diaspora in the USA and elswhere have done their peoples back home immense damage by financing - bankrolling
much of the pseudo-historical propaganda found littering the Internet.

Those who still cling on to the Idea that they are Macedonian on the basis of an acquired name and a hybrid Serbo-Bulgarian language are in the minority...after 21 years of the Macedonian name being tossed around, the peoples of this world have become learned and knowledgable
about Macedonia and Macedonians.

Macedonians have always been Greek and Greeks have always lived in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-
Greece...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are not one of these!

Some things cannot be changed!
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219


So the word itself doesn't mean anything in Greek? That's odd it's Ancient Macedonian language, Maka (mother) Don (home/land).
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1...What does Macedonia mean in Greek?

2...In Serbo-Bulgarian it means Mother Land.
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Macedonia(n)...when this term is used, it is used to describe Greeks, Northern-Greeks that live within the historic boundaries of the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon in Northern-Greece.

Todays Greeks are the closest modern-humans to the Macedonians of lore...demographers will attest to that.
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219


1...So the word itself doesn't mean anything in Greek?

2...That's odd it's Ancient Macedonian language, Maka (mother) Don (home/land).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471


1...It has meaning, but you have to use your educational sills to source it: [link to www.etymonline.com]

2...This is gibberish, right! In your Serbo-Bulgarian language, Mother translates to Majka which is closly related to the Bulgarian Maika, and home equates to Doma in your language very close to the Bulgarian Dom.

Macedonia in your Serbo-Bulgarian language has no meaning!
Majkadoma does not translate to Macedonia...does it Goran!

Have you No shame!
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1...What does Macedonia mean in Greek?

2...In Serbo-Bulgarian it means Mother Land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471


Macedonia(n)...when this term is used, it is used to describe Greeks, Northern-Greeks that live within the historic boundaries of the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon in Northern-Greece.

Todays Greeks are the closest modern-humans to the Macedonians of lore...demographers will attest to that.
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219


1...So the word itself doesn't mean anything in Greek?

2...That's odd it's Ancient Macedonian language, Maka (mother) Don (home/land).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471


1...It has meaning, but you have to use your educational sills to source it: [link to www.etymonline.com]

2...This is gibberish, right! In your Serbo-Bulgarian language, Mother translates to Majka which is closly related to the Bulgarian Maika, and home equates to Doma in your language very close to the Bulgarian Dom.

Macedonia in your Serbo-Bulgarian language has no meaning!
Majkadoma does not translate to Macedonia...does it Goran!

Have you No shame!
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219


Whatever Gondre. Listen, the word Majka mother comes from the word Maka which means troubles and sorrow, the feelings a mother has for her home and the people in it.
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1...It has meaning, but you have to use your educational sills to source it: [link to www.etymonline.com]

2...This is gibberish, right! In your Serbo-Bulgarian language, Mother translates to Majka which is closly related to the Bulgarian Maika, and home equates to Doma in your language very close to the Bulgarian Dom.

Macedonia in your Serbo-Bulgarian language has no meaning!
Majkadoma does not translate to Macedonia...does it Goran!

Have you No shame!
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1...Whatever Gondre.

2...Listen, the word Majka mother comes from the word Maka

3...which means troubles and sorrow,

4...the feelings a mother has for her home and the people in it.
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219

1...Ok!

2...No it doesn't. You just made that up, just now!

3...No it doesn't. Trouble(s) translates to problem(s) and sorrow translates to taga, in your Serbo-Bulgarian language.

4...Mothers usually hyave feelings for their offspring before anything else.

Have you No shame Goran ?

The Macedonian name is Greek, it belongs in the Greek domain and Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek heritage...some things cannot be altered or changed. Some things are unchangable!
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1...It has meaning, but you have to use your educational sills to source it: [link to www.etymonline.com]

2...This is gibberish, right! In your Serbo-Bulgarian language, Mother translates to Majka which is closly related to the Bulgarian Maika, and home equates to Doma in your language very close to the Bulgarian Dom.

Macedonia in your Serbo-Bulgarian language has no meaning!
Majkadoma does not translate to Macedonia...does it Goran!

Have you No shame!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471


1...Whatever Gondre.

2...Listen, the word Majka mother comes from the word Maka

3...which means troubles and sorrow,

4...the feelings a mother has for her home and the people in it.
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219

1...Ok!

2...No it doesn't. You just made that up, just now!

3...No it doesn't. Trouble(s) translates to problem(s) and sorrow translates to taga, in your Serbo-Bulgarian language.

4...Mothers usually hyave feelings for their offspring before anything else.

Have you No shame Goran ?

The Macedonian name is Greek, it belongs in the Greek domain and Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek heritage...some things cannot be altered or changed. Some things are unchangable!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471


Ancient Macedonian language is closest to Hebrew. How come Ancient Geeks don't know this?
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I got another one for you Gondre...

What does the word Greek in Macedonian translate too since it is your original language? Gertsia, Gert/ugly si/you. Why do ancient Greeks call themselves ugly people? Better yet, why do the Makedon's call you that?s226
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I got another one for you Gondre...

What does the word Greek in Macedonian translate too since it is your original language? Gertsia, Gert/ugly si/you. Why do ancient Greeks call themselves ugly people? Better yet, why do the Makedon's call you that?s226
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Shameless...absolutely Shameless!

Your Serbo-Bulgarian word for Ugly translates to "grda" which is the same as the Slovenian for the same.

Grda = Ugly - Grcite = Greeks...two different words!

Grda is different from Grcite...isn't it Goran!

There is Nothing Macedonian about you is there...Goran!

FYRoM Sickness: Symptoms include Greek Envy coupled with delusions of granduer!
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Detailed knowledge of Balkan history shows 5 wars being fought in that region, in the last hundred years. Ignorance is not an option when duscussing the regions demography.The inhabitants of FYRoM that used to reside in the southernmost-region of the old-Yugoslavia are the modern descendants of exogenous Slavic tribes that settled the Greek [Haemus] peninsula between the 6th - 9th Century AD, some 900 - 1200 years after the death of Alexander the Great. The reason they call themselves Macedonians now, depends on who you speak to and on which version of pseudo-history they have been tuitioned on. Some of them consider the Macedonian term uniquely Slavic...Macedonians for them were an ancient-Slavic tribe, proto-Slavs native to the Haemus peninsula, whilst others consider themselves Slavicized autochthonous natives.

Slavicized autochthonous natives, I like this one, but that would make them Greeks, right!
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Lets cut to the chase...

I could learn to live next to Slavic speakers who want to carry the Macedonian-Name for self-Identity and for self-determination purposes...but first, lets cut to the chase:

Recognize the ancient-Macedonians as a Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples...and join the rest of the learned world.

Admit that you speak a Serbo-Bulgarian Satem-Slavic hybrid language misnamed Macedonian-language for political reasons.

Admit that you harbour Macedonian-feelings and collective-memories rooted in antiquity...to the Macedonians of lore!

Now admit that you are Slavicized autochthonous native who wants to keep his Slavic heritage superimposed over his native one.

Other than Indoctrination...there is no other logical explanation which can explain in a scientific academic manner, the reasons for your attachement to the Macedonian name.

I could learn to accept Slavic speaking Macedonian brothers on the proviso...they recognize Alexander the Great as the Greek-King of ancient-Macedon.

Some things cannot be altered...some things were not meant to be changed.

Macedonians started-off as Greek speaking Hellenic peoples and they are still here today...the same, unchanged!

I could accept Slavic speaking Macedonians as a group that branched-off from the main Greco-Macedonian core...but they have to accept that Macedonians have always been Greek speakers and Hellenic peoples!
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Ancient Egyptians spoke Greek too, should they acknowledge they are Greek?

Australians, Northern Americans and people from England all speak English, should England do the same?

It's easier to have a common language. Yugoslavians didn't speak Yugoslavian, but the common language was Serbian, doesn't mean they were all Serbian.
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Grda is different from Grcite...isn't it Goran!
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ite is plural for a group of people like Israelite. Grcite, ugly plural. s226
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ok, sorry Nick, I really have no time to read all through this, but the topic is interesting, will probably read through some later when I'll have time

but 1 question for now:

- do you know in which historical document or writing was Alexander the Great first described as slavic? and how reliable that source is?
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I AM FROM MACEDONIA, FROM SKOPJE.

This is the real history.

Slavs is terminology invented into 18 century.

All Balkan people are proto slavic in their origin.


THEY HAD SPOKE SIMILAR PROTO SLAVIC LANGUAGE AS TODAY POLISH OR RUS PEOPLE.

Macedonians in the history have been ancestors of today Macedonians. Bulgarians and SERBS ARE ALMOST SAME TRIBES AS MACEDONIANS. The difference is such as Irish and Scottish people.

ILLIRYANS WERE AND ARE SERBS IN THE HISTORY.
TRAKIANS WERE BULGARIANS.

GOTHS WERE KOZAKS OR RUS PEOPLE (KOZA IS GOAT ON SLAVIC)

VANDALS WERE PREDECESSOR OF POLISH PEOPLE.

HISTORY IS REWRITTEN IN ORDER FOR THE BABYLONIAN BROTHERHOOD, OR SHALL I SAY VATICAN TO CONQUER ALL OF EASTERN EUROPE.

The name of ancient ARIA , WAS RELIGION OF PROTO SLAVIC PEOPLE. This includes Persia, India.

We, Macedonians, Serbs, Bulgarians, can read SANSKRIT, AND UNDERSTAND IT 80 PERCENT.

The name of ancient Macedonian city was PELLA IN THE HISTORICAL RECORDS. BUT PELLA IS NOT QUITE TRUE. P AND B ARE INTERCHANGEABLE IN GREEK. SO BELLA CITY IS CORRECT.
OR BELLA TOWN. THE SAME NAME AS THE CAPITAL OF SERBIA. BEL GRAD (CITY) BEO GRAD, BELLI GRAD. BELL IS ANCIENT FOR WHITE. IT MEANS WHITE CITY.

TODAY YOU HAVE 10 TOWNS IN THE BALKANS, AND POLLAND AND RUSSIA, WITH THE SAME MEANING. BEO GRAD, BELI GRAD, BEL GOROD, ETC.

Greece is not the enemy of the Macedonians. But if you go to Greece,in Macedonia, you will see that population speaks slavic language. The cities and villiges have slavic , or macedonian meanings. Such as VODEN, LERIN, SOLUN, ETC.


I WAS ASTONISH TO FOUND OUT THAT IN THE MAIN 2 STREETS IN THESSALONIKI IN GREECE, ALL THE SHOPS OWNERS WERE MACEDONIAN BY ORIGIN. I SPOKE MY LANGUAGE IN THEIR SHOPS.

MACEDONIANS ARE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF NORDERN MODERN GREECE.
But some of them had been colonised.

The same situation as Slovenians in Saerska Austria. Or In Trst , Italy.

This is the truth. This doesn't mean that Macedonians and Greeks should be enemies. We had to fight bigger fish NOW.

AND THAT IS ISLAM, AND TURKEY.


Boromir, from Skopje.
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This is a treat for my (DUMB) Macedonian people.

ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WERE PREDECESSORS OF SLAVIC PEOPLE.
THIS PUKE VATICAN, WANTS TO DIVIDE US INTO ANCIENT MACEDONIANS AND SLAVS. IN ORDER TO SEPARATE US FROM BULGARIANS AND SERBS. THIS IS THE TRAP.
SLAVIC INVASION DID NOT TAKE PLACE ITO THE BALKANS. JUST EVOLUTION OF NAMES. MACEDONIANS BECAME MACEDONIAN. ILIRIA BECAME SERBIA, AND TRAKIA BECAME BULGARIA, OR SHALL I SAY BELL ARIA.
THERE IS A WAR VS SLAVIC PEOPLE. THERE IS A WAR VS RUSSIA.

ON ALL FRONTS. IN KOSOVO, IN MACEDONIA, IN KAFKAZ. WEST IS USING ISLAM AND CATOLICISAM IN ORDER TO DESTROY OUR ANCIENT LANDS.

JUST LOOK AT RHETORIC TOWARD THE LAST BASTION OF FREEDOM AND GLORY. BELORUSSIAN PRESIDENT LUKASENKO.

THEY DIVIDE US , AND MAKE COLONIES IN ORDER TO DESTROY OUR BROTHERS. KOSOVO IS REAL EXAMPLE. WHILE 100 PERCENT OF MACEDONIANS WERE AGAINST RECOGNITION OF THIS ARTIFICIAL DRUG CARTEL STATE OF ALBANIAN MAFIA, OUR MACEDONIAN GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO AS AN INDEPENDENT STATE. BECAUSE THEY HAD MADE MACEDONIA NATO COLONY. SAME AS BOSNIA, CROATIA, BULGARIA, AND UNFORTUNATELY POLAND.

WE MACEDONIANS ARE WAITING RUSSIA TO LIBERATE US FROM NATO JOKE. RED ARMY WILL MARCH AGAIN INTO THE SLAVIC LANDS, AND LIBERATE THE PEOPLE. BUT THIS TIME RUSSIA WILL BE WITH CHINA.

I SAY LOUD DEATH TO NATO, DEATH TO US, DEATH TO WEST.

LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA, LONG LIVE RUSSIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Grda is different from Grcite...isn't it Goran!
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ite is plural for a group of people like Israelite. Grcite, ugly plural. s226
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219


That's right, grda is feminine for 1 person, cite means all of them, Grd is ugly. Grd-CITE

Ugly ALL OF THEM. s226
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12/16/2012 08:02 AM
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Re: Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav
1...Ancient Egyptians spoke Greek too, should they acknowledge they are Greek?

2...Australians, Northern Americans and people from England all speak English, should England do the same?

3...It's easier to have a common language.

4...Yugoslavians didn't speak Yugoslavian, but the common language was Serbian, doesn't mean they were all Serbian.
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1...The ancient-Egyptians were Not Hellenic. Egypt during the Hellenistic period of history was ruled over by Hellenic people...the Ptolemy dynasty!

2...White Anglo Saxon Protestant peoples [WASP] are proud-peoples, proud of their English heritage...as Macedonians are proud of their Hellenic-heritage.

3...Ok!

4...The Slavic languages belong to the Satem group of Indo-European leanguages. The Macedonians of lore spoke Greek, a Hellenic language belonging to the Centum group of Indo-European languages. You are distanced from them on all of these factors: (i) ethnically, (ii) racially, (iii)culturally and (iv)linguistically.

The Macedonians of lore were Greek speaking Hellenic peoples
The Macedonians of today are the same...unaltered!

Some things cannot be altered...some things were never meant to be changed.
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12/16/2012 08:06 AM
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1...Ancient Egyptians spoke Greek too, should they acknowledge they are Greek?

2...Australians, Northern Americans and people from England all speak English, should England do the same?

3...It's easier to have a common language.

4...Yugoslavians didn't speak Yugoslavian, but the common language was Serbian, doesn't mean they were all Serbian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471

1...The ancient-Egyptians were Not Hellenic. Egypt during the Hellenistic period of history was ruled over by Hellenic people...the Ptolemy dynasty!

2...White Anglo Saxon Protestant peoples [WASP] are proud-peoples, proud of their English heritage...as Macedonians are proud of their Hellenic-heritage.

3...Ok!

4...The Slavic languages belong to the Satem group of Indo-European leanguages. The Macedonians of lore spoke Greek, a Hellenic language belonging to the Centum group of Indo-European languages. You are distanced from them on all of these factors: (i) ethnically, (ii) racially, (iii)culturally and (iv)linguistically.

The Macedonians of lore were Greek speaking Hellenic peoples
The Macedonians of today are the same...unaltered!

Some things cannot be altered...some things were never meant to be changed.
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219


That's exactly my point, just because we speak a common language doesn't mean that's are heritage. I am neither English or Australian yet English is my language. Adopting common languages has been happening for centuries, it's nothing new so nothing has changed.
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12/16/2012 08:08 AM
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Re: Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav
1...Ancient Egyptians spoke Greek too, should they acknowledge they are Greek?

2...Australians, Northern Americans and people from England all speak English, should England do the same?

3...It's easier to have a common language.

4...Yugoslavians didn't speak Yugoslavian, but the common language was Serbian, doesn't mean they were all Serbian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471

1...The ancient-Egyptians were Not Hellenic. Egypt during the Hellenistic period of history was ruled over by Hellenic people...the Ptolemy dynasty!

2...White Anglo Saxon Protestant peoples [WASP] are proud-peoples, proud of their English heritage...as Macedonians are proud of their Hellenic-heritage.

3...Ok!

4...The Slavic languages belong to the Satem group of Indo-European leanguages. The Macedonians of lore spoke Greek, a Hellenic language belonging to the Centum group of Indo-European languages. You are distanced from them on all of these factors: (i) ethnically, (ii) racially, (iii)culturally and (iv)linguistically.

The Macedonians of lore were Greek speaking Hellenic peoples
The Macedonians of today are the same...unaltered!

Some things cannot be altered...some things were never meant to be changed.
 Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219


That's exactly my point, just because we speak a common language doesn't mean that's are heritage. I am neither English or Australian yet English is my language. Adopting common languages has been happening for centuries, it's nothing new so nothing has changed.
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Look at the ancient Egyptian Gypsies, when they were scattered they picked up words from the common language from the host country and incorporated them into their own.

Who translated Hebrew to the Greeks (OT)? Why did Alexander speak Hebrew too?
Nick the Greek
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12/16/2012 08:14 AM
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Re: Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav
ok, sorry Nick, I really have no time to read all through this, but the topic is interesting, will probably read through some later when I'll have time

but 1 question for now:

- do you know in which historical document or writing was Alexander the Great first described as slavic? and how reliable that source is?
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Look here: [link to historyofmacedonia.org]

Research these Slavist orientated academics: Donski - Belchevski - Tentov - Boshevski - Ilyov - Gandeto - Stefov - Greslovski - Stephou

How reliable the source: Zero, but the damage to Slavic children - pupils - students had already been done.

We now have a situation where young Slavic children believe they are the real Macedonians, whilst Greeks for them are the imposters...welcome to the Balkans!
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12/16/2012 08:17 AM
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Re: Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav
ok, sorry Nick, I really have no time to read all through this, but the topic is interesting, will probably read through some later when I'll have time

but 1 question for now:

- do you know in which historical document or writing was Alexander the Great first described as slavic? and how reliable that source is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1762228

Look here: [link to historyofmacedonia.org]

Research these Slavist orientated academics: Donski - Belchevski - Tentov - Boshevski - Ilyov - Gandeto - Stefov - Greslovski - Stephou

How reliable the source: Zero, but the damage to Slavic children - pupils - students had already been done.

We now have a situation where young Slavic children believe they are the real Macedonians, whilst Greeks for them are the imposters...welcome to the Balkans!
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Alexander the Great was blonde, I don't know any blonde Greeks. I know lots of blonde Macedonians.
Nick the Greek
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12/16/2012 08:23 AM
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Re: Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav

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Grda is different from Grcite...isn't it Goran!
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ite is plural for a group of people like Israelite. Grcite, ugly plural. s226
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That's right, grda is feminine for 1 person, cite means all of them, Grd is ugly. Grd-CITE

Ugly ALL OF THEM. s226
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Wrong again Goran!

Grd = Ugly

Grcia = Greece

Grcite = Greeks

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