Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav

Isn't Greece aka the ugly people in the middle of a crisis? And this is what you focus on, 1 person in Ancient history? I think you should be more concerned about Greece's future. That's the only thing you can change, not the past.

You speak Slavic but are not Slav...this is what you want to say! You speak Makedonski but are not Makedonci, follows on from that logic of yours.

If Slavic is not your heritage...then Hellenic is your heritage, but you call it Macedonian instead!

Hellenes:Macedonians are one of these!

Some things cannot be altered...some things were not meant to be changed!

I can even say we were Ancient Egyptian rulers, but alas, I am only a Northern American now that makes me English or an undercover Gypsy. I love cultural diversity.

At least my first language doesn't call me an ugly group of people.

Blondism and Greeks...There are more blond Greeks than blond
Slavs from FYRoM. Blondism in Greeks runs 10 - 15% of the total population. I personally, have not seen one blond people from FYRoM, but I know there must be some.

The Slavs of FYRoM are closer in looks and morpholgy to Greeks and Bulgarians than they are to say Russians or Poles.

Alexander the Great...quintessentially Hellenic, in looks and morphology, he had no Slavic features. There were no Slavic peoples in the region at the times of his rule, indeed, it took almost a millennium after his death for the Slavic tribes to appear in the Greek [Haemus] peninsula.

If Macedonian's are Greeks, why are the Greeks so hostile towards their own people? Why are they trying to wipe their own existence away?

Nobody does that to their own blood, unless they have something to hide....

You just met a blonde from Bitola, my father was blonde and my great-grandmother too. My son is blonde as well.

We look nothing like the Bulgarians, they have Mongolian eyes, we don't. Lot's of Russian's and Pol's have those eyes too.

One question for you Nick.

- Was Phillip II, Alexander's father, a greek also?

Macedonians have always been Greeks. You must mean Greek citizens from Slavic heritage. These proved to be disloyal Greeks, some of them at least. Most fled Greece during the Civil War years fearing retribution.

The ones that stayed in Greece, the Greek born Slavs...or Greeks from Slavic heritage we call Slavophones, we love them like brothers and sisters because they stayed loyal to Hellas and Hellenism.

The Macedonian name belongs in the Greek domain and Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek-heritage...

...some things cannot be altered, some thing were not meant to be changed!

Macedonians are the Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 808 - 778 BC.

Hair care: If blond hair means alot to you, always use a mild heat setting on your hair dryer...how did you me to respond.

The making of a Macedonian has less to do with hair colour than to do with Hellenism. Hellenes: Macedonians are one of these. If you speak Slavonic but do not consider yourself to be Slavic, just Slavicized...what was you before Slavicization occured ???

"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave" - Demosthenes, Third Philippic, 31. The famous words that this Greek orator from Athens used to describe the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great, prior to Philip’s conquest of Greece.

Care to explain this then?

Demosthenes calls Philip a “barbarian”; that is, a non-Greek?


Yes, he does. But beyond the fact that Demosthenes harbored a personal grudge against Philip because of the humiliation he suffered when he lost his power of speech at the Macedonian court (Aischines, On the Embassy 35), Demosthenes could call anyone he did not like a barbarian, including fellow Athenians (e.g. 21.150). The word, at least in some uses by Demosthenes and others, should be understood as a generic insult. Thus, for example, in some parts of the USA people are dubious that people from other parts are “real Americans.”
[link to macedonia-evidence.org]

Lol nice try Nick, but it's not the Barbarian thing that is important it's the..

"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks.. "

I think this statement says it all.

Cheers!

Actually, my father's side of the family moved into Macedonia in the early 1300's and we are Jewish but changed our name during WWII.

BTW, we have blonde Gypsies in Bitola too.

There exists a wealth of knowledge - accumulated and dispensed at the worlds most prestigious learning institutions which place the ancient-Macedonians into the Greek domain, in with the Greek-Hellenic collective of peoples. Macedonians were just one of many ancient-Greek groups tribes and Kingdoms...>230 that we know about.

The Demosthenes quote has been interpreted to resemble a political squabble where the Macedonian party is made to look lesser Greek than the Athenian one.

[link to macedonia-evidence.org] 372 scholars of the classics and Graeco-Roma history stand behind Greece in the name dispute fiasco with FYRoM.

Macedonians are Greek and Greeks have always lived in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece.

Some things cannot be altered. Some things were not meant to be changed!

Ok! but that was way too much information Goran...or should I call you Schlomo ?

At some stage it shall dawn on the Slavic speakers of FYRoM that the Makedonski-language they speak has no ethnic relatedness to the Macedonian-language of lore.

At some stage our Slavic-speaking Makedonci brothers will have to recognize that the Macedonians of lore were Greek-speakers and Hellenic-peoples.

When that day dawns...what a wonderful day that shall be!

Macedonians...both Greek speakers and Makedonci speakers shall learn to respect what they have!

Schlomovska, get it right!

Macedonians are the Greeks that still live in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece. Slavic speakers, speaking a hybrid Serbo-Bulgarian language Misnamed to Macedonian-language for political reasons is not a language to be associated with Macedonia or the Macedonians of lore. At some stage, our Slavic speaking brothers shall have to recognize that Macedonians started-off as Greek speaking Hellenic peoples and they are still here today...the same, unaltered and unchanged!

Some things cannot be altered. Some things were never meant to change...right! Blond-Schlomovska

Alexader was MACEDONIAN!!
Nick tha greek is a douche

Macedonians are/were a regional and historical population group of ethnic Greeks.

He's a Greecetard.

Hey look, if you phonetically sound out Greece, you get grce. The whole world is calling them ugly.

Macedonians are the Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 808 - 778 BC.

Hellenes: Macedonians are of these!

FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are not one of these...or are they ?

That a small Slavic statelet like FYRoM endeavours to acquire for usurpation, a Greek-Hellenic name for self-Identity and for self-determination purposes, the Greeks find perplexing. There is something sinister in wanting to take another peoples name for your name, and when FYRoM pushes to have their Nationality-status, Ethnicity-status and Linguistic-status classified as Macedonian...the Greeks take offense, they see it as a direct threat to the existance of the Nation state of Hellas.

If this configuration were ever to be legitimized:

1 - Country-Name........Macedonian
2 - Nationality.........Macedonian
3 - Ethnicity...........Macedonian
4 - Language............Macedonian

Greeks would riot. Macedonia for Greece constitutes a large part of the country's Northern geographical-territory. The Greeks would lose in an instant, one of their ancient and archaic, regional-tribal names where more than 2.5 Million Greeks self-Identify as Macedonians in the regional sense.

Nationality follows the country-name, whilst ethnicity follows the language-name, FYRoM fights for this. Proxy - FYRoM fights to obtain these Identity factors in order to take Macedonia away from the Greeks.

Sinister moves. Slavist philologists gave them a language and name it Macedonian-language in 1944. Communists gave them a country and named it "Peoples Republic of Macedonia" in 1945 which became a Socialist Republic in 1946. These actions were hostile actions directed at Greece.

Looking back: Something was not right in naming a Serbo-Bulgarian language to Macedonian-language...when it is known that Macedonians are a regional-historic population group of ethnic-Greeks. Linguists and Philologists of today are the first to admit that FYRoM's language was in-fact Misnamed to Macedonian-language for political reasons in 1944, nothing more!

The Serbo-Bulgarian language that is spoken today by the Slavs of FYRoM has no ethnic relatedness to the Hellenic language that was spoken in antiquity by Alexander the Great but the children - pupils -students there believe it to be the one and same language!

Linguists - Philologists - Demographers - Ethnogenists - Historians: All of them support Greece in it's fight to defend - protect it's National-history, heritage and cultural-inheritance from FYRoM's callous state sponsored diaspora-driven anti-Hellenic propaganda.

Ask yourself, why ALL MACEDONIA IN GREECE BEARS MACEDONIAN (SLAVIC) NAMES OF CITIES AND VILLAGES.
CONCLUSION IS THE FOLLOWING.

1. MACEDONIANS WERE PROTO SLAVIC PEOPLE.
2. BULGARIANS AND SERBS ARE RELATIVES TO MACEDONIANS (IRISH AND SCOTTISH PEOPLE).

I WOULD ADD THAT PELASGIANS WERE SLAVIC PEOPLE.

WIENNA WAS WENDENNIA IN ROMAN TIMES, MEANING CITY OF THE WENDS.
VIENNA, WAS WENDENA, MEANING CITY OF THE WENDS.

IF YOU READ ALL THE NAMES OF THE CITIES IN HALF OF THE GERMANY BEARS SLAVIC ORIGIN OF THE NAMES.

BALTIC SEA - BLATNO MORE, MEANS MUD SEE.
POMORAVIA = PO MORE, MEANS, NEAR THE SEE.
PRUSSIA= PO RUSSIA , MEANS NEAR RUSSIA

BUDIM PESSTA ,WAS BUDIMIR GRAD, IT BEARS SLAVIC NAME.

BEFORE ROMANIA WAS ROMANISED, WAS SLAVIC IN ITS ORIGIN.

EVEN TODAY 30 PERCENT OF THE WORDS ARE SLAVIC.

THE SAME WAS IN GREECE.


Greece must be open that Macedonians were proto slavic people. And Macedonians must show more evidence in order to conclude their statement.

Future will show that history was rewritten.

Greek people and Macedonians are not the enemy. The ENEMY IS ISLAM, that invade our lands. The enemy is Albanians and their slave mentality that brings US hegemony into the Balkans.


Boromir, from Skopje

Greeks cannot permit the Slavs of FYRoM to Rubbish their history and heritage. Greeks cannot permit the Slavs of FYRoM to usurp the Macedonian-name for their new country, nationality, language and ethnicity when it is known, these Identity factors do not bode well with Slavs. Macedonians are the Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 808 - 778 BC - an ancient, historic, regional people-group of ethnic-Greek stock...just one of many ancient-Greek groups - tribes - Kingdoms that we know about.

The Slavs of FYRoM are not Macedonian, at least not in the Greek sense of that word. They are Makedonski speaking Makedonci people...this is how they describe themselves in their Serbo-Bulgarian language. They make it a condition by insisting the outside-world call them ethnic-Macedonians on the basis of their self-determination right.

Greeks cannot permit a NoN-Greek peoples to adopt for usurpation, one of their ancient-archaic, regional-tribal names.

According to Slavdom...The Slavs of FYRoM hail from South-Slavic stock. This fact alone excludes them from calling themselves ethnic-Macedonians, their language Macedonian, and their country Macedonia.

Macedonians are the Greeks that still live in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece, Greek speakers and Hellnic peoples...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are Not one of these!

This Greek guy is so convoluted its no wonder his country is the laughing stock of the world.

Macedonia(Modern Day) can be traced back to the original Bulgar state prior to Ottoman rule.

Look at a fucking map and seriously shut the fuck up.

Alexander the Great was Albanian.

Alexander the Great was obviously South Slav or some ethnicity from the North, its so obvious I can't believe there's a 200 page thread on it.

What you think some pampered fuck from Greece that had all the luxuries in the world became the Greatest General modern history has written about?

Wake the fuck up.

He came from nothing and conquered the world. There is no other way.

This Nick person has some serious issues..