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For the West, Greece is small in terms of country but big in terms of contributer, a cultural giant, for Greek contributions made towards early development of Western civilization. This historical fact can never be overlooked, nor taken away. On this basis, today's Greeks look back at themselves and awe at their inheritance.

Greek history goes hand in hand with Macedonian history, which is a much cherished element of Greek national history as a whole. For the Greeks, Macedonian history forms important component part of Greek national-identity and major overall part of Hellenic cultural identity.

Greeks regard FYR0M's falsifications of Macedonian history as anti-Hellenic act, an affront, a major insult to Greece and a humiliating belittlement of Hellenism, the culture that went on to shape Western civilization. FYR0M's falsifications of Macedonian history are not just an affront to Greeks alone, they are an affront to the West because Macedonians contributed greatly towards development of early Western civilizational principles - FYR0M contributed Nothing! FYR0M therefore, cannot, and should not, benefit in any way, from Greek cultural contributions to world history. What is Macedonian is Greek, and what is Spartan is Greek, and what is Athenian is Greek. FYR0M cannot benefit from Greek things it played no part in.

The establishment of a 'Republic of Macedonia' on Greeces northern border is act of hostility directed at Greece...an anti-Hellenic act! There can be no 'Republic of Macedonia' just as there can be no 'Republic of Sparta' no 'Republic of Athens' no 'Republic of Argos' no 'Republic of Corinth' no 'Republic of Thessaly' - All of these People-Groups and Place-Names belong to Hellenism. These names belong in Greek domain. Those Identities belong to Greek heritage. Foreign entities like FYR0M, cannot, and should not, benefit from people-names and place-names created by Greeks, for Hellenic use.

Greeks identify with Macedon the ancient-Greek Kingdom, they consider the place integral to Hellas as a whole. Greeks identify with Macedonians, before and after King Philip, they consider Macedonians to be integral, part of Greek Collective as a whole, just one of >230 known, ancient-Greek groups, tribes, and Kingdoms that collectively formed the Greek-Hellenic peoples from antiquity. If todays Greeks consider the deeds, works, and contributions of Macedon, Sparta, Corinth, Argos, Thessaly and Athens, to be part of their cultural-inheritance, part of their collective past, who would, or could judge that to be inaccurate ?

FYR0M has nothing to lose from staking claim to ancestors their paternal Slavic forebears had nothing to do with, no connections, no biological cultural or linguistic affinity with. As far as they are concerned, Macedon was Slavic Kingdom and Alexander the Great was Aleksandar Veliki, the first Czar of the Slavs. Those who indulge FYR0M in this silliness by calling the country 'Republic of Macedonia,' by calling ex-Yugoslavians, 'Macedonians,' by calling their Serbo-Bulgarian language, 'Macedonian-language'...just prolong the longevity of the name-dispute between FYRoM and Greece.

FYR0M is Not Macedon. FYR0M language is Not Macedonian. FYR0M inhabitants are Not Macedonians - Stop indulging Them!

i didn't meet a greek person yet who claims that the whole world historical heritage belongs to them as for their ancestraals shots , but here you are ,,a represent of greece from the uk and ..this many(....) pages of the thread prove you are what?right for all the wizdom? y..as? and in few days or months the domain will change probably....but this thread will ..go on!!!


namaste

Well, isn't kind of like England and Ireland? Their histories are intertwined. They're more similarly related to each other than either is to, say, France across the Channel. Yet, there is a sub-set distinction between the English and the Irish. The ancient Greeks saw the ancient Macedonians in much the same way, "similar but different." The Macedonians were less foreign than the barbarians but still a lesser people to the true Greeks.

Regardless, modern-day Greece isn't the same as ancient Greece, and modern-day Greeks have A LOT of non-classical Greek DNA in the mix. Hell, it was under Ottoman Turkish rule for how many centuries?? And, more importantly, what's wrong with a former Yugoslavian country calling itself Macedonia? The Macedonian region isn't limited to modern-day northern Greece, and much of that new country's territory is in the northern part of historical Macedonia.

Alexander the Great had some Slav in him. It's not good or bad, it just is. However, he would have identified as Greek. Like an Irishman who sees London as the center of the Earth, he was very much part of the Greek sphere of influence.

Alexander the Great was no Slav - he never met any Slavs, he never spoke Slavic and he never lived in FYRoM.

How do you feel now Goran - Silly, right!

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From Dutch orde.

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From Old Norse orð, from Proto-Germanic *wurdą, from Proto-Indo-European *werdʰo- (“word”).

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Proto-Germanic *uzdaz, from Proto-Indo-European *wes- (“stab”). Cognates with Middle Dutch ort (Dutch oord), Old High German ort (German Ort), Old Norse oddr (Icelandic oddur, Swedish udd, Danish od).

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This!!


Also,,,,

70% of Greeks look more Arab than Arabs ,,

And these lazy leeches have always been nothing more than plagiarists ,, sucking from ancient wise neighbors and claiming it as greek.He'll these butt wipes claim Byzantium and Constantinople was Greek lmao,,

Eastern Roman general Constantine moved the Romans capital to the east and had Constantinople built on seven hills as Roman was,, so how these plagiarist retards figure it's Greek defies logical explanation ,,


And just to confirm,, after 2000+ years of being ruled over by others they are mongrels of the purest form

FYRoM is viewed by many like Racist TurkoSlavic country inhabited by the same.

The Greek-speaking peoples of Macedon view the Slavic-speaking peoples of FYRoM like crude imposter opportunist's, staking claim and making claims to ancient Greek achievements their Slavic forebears played no part in. The benefits for them contesting Macedonian identity are twofold...(i) FYRoM Slavic-speakers get to rewrite Western worlds cultural-historical narrative, and (ii) FYRoM becomes default heir inheritor of ancient-Macedonian legacy.

The Slavic-speaking peoples of FYRoM view the Greek-speaking peoples of Macedon like occupiers living on their land illegally. They see Greeks like foreigners and Macedon like their own sacred primordial homelend. They teach young Slavic children, pupils, and students to see themselves like Macedonians, their Slavic-country like 'Republic of Macedonia' and their Slavic-language like Macedonian-language. Every child in FYRoM is taught to self-determine on that state approved nomenclature.

Greeks from Macedon see Yugoslavians from FYRoM like Southern-Slavs who trace their paternal ancestry back, in backward compatible steps, to Serbian tribes or Bulgarian tribes. Greeks do not see them like bona-fide Macedonians. Macedonians with Greek heritage view Southern-Slavs with Serbian or Bulgarian ancestry like newcomers, the progeny of Slavic settlers who made the Haemus peninsula their home during settlement period, from the 6th Century AD.

Yugoslavians from FYRoM see Macedonians from Greece like biggest enemy. Greece is Western creation they say. Greece was created by the West to cheat Slavic peoples from their true history and heritage. They see Greeks like Africans Turks and Albanians, they see Greece like enemy number one, and Hellenism like loaded word beyond hate. Yugoslavians from FYRoM see Macedonians from Greece like Western creation, created by the West to cheat Yugoslavians from their true history and heritage which they equate to Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians from antiquity.

Macedonians from Greece view Yugoslavians from FYRoM like brainwashed indoctrinated South-Slavs...politicized South-Slavs, propagandized to agitate for return of Northern-Greek territory. Macedon was never Greek they say. Macedonians were never Greeks they say. Macedonia for the Macedonians, they say.
Greek-speakers from Macedon, view Slavic-speakers from FYRoM like very gullible, simple-minded, easily-led peoples. Tell them to equate Macedonians to proto-Slavs and they do it. Tell them they live in Macedon, and they believe it. Tell them they speak Macedonian and they believe that too.

Greeks from Macedon swear oath to defend and protect what is theirs by birthright. Macedonians owe it to the ancestors, to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their Paleo-Haemus Hellenic ancestors. Greeks from Macedon cannot allow NoN-Greeks from FYRoM to usurp the Macedonian Name, Identity, History, Heritage, Legacy. Why ? Because Greeks are proud of Macedonian contributions to world history.

Macedonians from Greece see Yugoslavians from FYRoM like imposter opportunists wanting to benefit from Greek achievements to world history. Recognition of FYRoM to 'Republic of Macedonia' empowers minor Slavic country to do just that. Greece warned the West this would happen. The international Academic Community warned the West this would happen. Now FYRoM spits at the West. Quasi-official recognition has empowered FYRoM to sit it out indefinitely. In the eyes of a FYRoM Yugoslav - Macedonians have always been Macedonian-speaking Macedonians from Republic of Macedonia. What better way to rubbish Greeks, Greece, and Hellenism...there is no better way, is there!

Nick

Give it a break for farks sake. The fact you have posted page after page after farkin page just shows your desperation ..


Plagiarist leech anyway or form fuk tards..

You African Arabs actually believe the sun shine outta ya arses mate.
You nation is British and French founded and narrated on falsehoods, your a lazy leeching mongrel failure of a people dude,

Pffft face facts already

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Racist FYRoM Monki.

Shameless Australian FYRoM Monki!

Typical TurkoSlavic GORANOVIC Yellow Monki.

1. Historically, Macedonians were not Greek and Greeks did not see them as Greek.

2. Linguistically, Greek language is based on a protoslavonic substratum

3. Genetically, Macedonians are related to ancient Macedonians and ice age Balkan inhabitants, while Greeks are related to the Phoenicians and Africans

4. Politically, Greeks have made many efforts to wipe out the Macedonian minority in Greece

5. even Plato recognized that Greek language is much younger than let's say Phrygian and other "barbaric" - protoslavonic languages.
6. Slavonic people are indigenous in the Balkans, while Greeks came much later, only after the ice age

7. The Slavonic history has been deformed through centuries because the roman - germanic pact needed arguments, why they were most suitable for being in charge of Europe, so they simply invented them


greek gene = african gene E
Haplogroup E3b (E1b1b) represents the last major migration out of North Africa into Europe. There are 3 main subgroups (subclades); V13, V22, and V12. E-V13 is the most common subgroup and is associated with ancient Greek expansion and colonisation.


indigenous balkan gene = slavonic gene I2a
Haplogroup I2 may have originated in south-eastern Europe some 17,000 years ago

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"Indo-Germanists" have conceded that the 'Kentum-Satem' division of I-E languages is artificial and obsolete since it (the Latin and Avestian word for 100) is but one of many isogloses.

A new division of Indo-European languages as “Core” and “Peripheral” is proposed.

INTRODUCTION

In 1786, Sir William Jones expressed his view that “Sanskrit is of more perfect structure than the Greek, more copious than the Latin, yet bearing to both of them a strong affinity as if sprung from some common source.
The same origin have also the Gothick and the Celtick, though blended with a very different idiom, and also Old Persian might be added to the same family.”

This was one of the cornerstones of modern linguistics.

Due to exclusive use of Sanskrit, Persian, Greek, Latin, and Germanic, the name "Indo-Germanic" was coined.
Observe that Slavic was not included.

The "Kentum-Satem" division of Indo-European languages was finalized by contributions of several authors in 1890.

While the 'Satem' languages display integrity and a core of similarities, those languages that used
to be called 'Kentum' lack cohesiveness.

The insecurity of the doctrine of Kentum affirmation is evident in the vacant space depicted by the “gray area” stretching between Eastern Baltic and Northern Adriatic (Diachronic map and the Gray Hole [6] along the Amber Road, Figure 2).
This is exactly the area occupied by the ancient Veneti - Venedi (and Wends).

The geographic location of the “gray area” also corresponds to the Corded Ware region of the Lusatian culture.
However, in 1965, G. R. Solta has shown that the 'Kentum-Satem' isogloss was overrated as a diagnostic feature and a tool of true componential analysis.
It ought not be revered as a defining wedge, which segregates Indo-European languages into two well-defined entities. It is only a single isogloss among many.

The new view resulted in a different division of Indo-European languages, namely into the core languages and peripheral languages.

At the same time, a working hypothesis about the origin of Europeans was presented.

CORDED WARE HORIZON AND THE HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION AROUND 2000 BC INDICATE A DRASTIC DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE REAL SITUATION AND THE LEARNED CONSTRUCT.
Consequently, the following points are presented:

#1. German attempt in the 19th Century to marginalize the Slavic role in the “Indo-Germanic” Languages was largely successful. This misinformation must be rectified, and the Slavic languages must be recognized as being key to the Indo-European phenomenon.
The Slavic languages are not to be viewed as a peripheral branch of the Indo-European Languages, but should be recognized as the trunk of the Language Tree from which the other branches received their substance and sustenance, Figure 3.

#2.“Indo-Germanic” is a neologism which SHOULD BE ABANDONED. Since Indo-Aryans branched off from the “Slavic Mother Tongue”(and “Slavic Mitochondrial and Y-chromosome genes”) some 9,000 years ago [7], and since Germanic Languages branched off from the “Balto-Slavic” source only perhaps 4,000 years ago and subsequently incorporated Celto- Italic elements:“It appears to point to a situation in which Germanic began to develop within the Satem Core (as evidenced by its morphology) but moved away before the final satem innovations.
It then moved into close contact with the “western” languages (Celtic and Italic) and borrowed much of its distinctive vocabulary from them...”, the term “Indo-Germanic” is as misleading as there would be in the animal kingdom the expression “Trilobito-Avian”(of trilobites & birds).

#3. We posit that the Slavic Languages as the organic trunk of the Indo-European Language Tree yield better terminology for the language branches. These branches would be Slav-Indoiranic, Slav-Armenanatolic, Slav-Tocharscythic, Slav-Suevandalgothic, Slav- Keltitalic and Slav-Helilyric.
Thus, for sake of a more accurate understanding of the phenomenon we must create a new lexicon. Based on the 19th Century word choice of “Indo-Germanic” it would seem legitimate to apply a more accurate designation such as “Indo-Slavic”. Similarly, to the west (based on the contributions of Ringe et al.) we are justified in using terminology such as “Germano-Slavic”.
Preliminary evidence had suggested to a few linguists that Tocharian A and B are somewhat linked to Italic (Kelt-Italic).
But based on geography, proximity, and the possible migration routes we are forced to accept Slavic as the missing link between western Europe and Chinese Turkistan.

#4. Dictates of foreign elites (German, Hungarian, Italian, French etc) have been imposed upon speakers of several Slavic languages and/or dialects.
However, standardized Slavic “literary” languages have also been forced upon the speakers of dialects. The ancient mosaic of the Slavic substratum throughout Europe was best preserved in those areas where national states failed to impose a standardized language dictated from capital cities.
Regional Slavic dialects survived best in Slovenia and adjacent (Slovenian speaking) regions of Italy, Croatia, Austria and Hungary.
Similar preservation of dialects survived among the Polabian Slavs, among the Lusatian Wend-Sorbs and in Moravia.

#5. Remarkably, Slavic elements persisted with great frequency in Old English of a thousand years ago. For example, in the Lords Prayer “Fader Ure”[9] Old English used the Slavic word for “bread”-“hlaf ” as in Chleb, Hleb, Chlieb, Chlib etc.
If one reads Psalm 23 in Old English it sounds much like a Slavic language. In this respect Old English is more Slavic than Modern English.
Cf. also the case of surnames [11]. Similar observations that an older version of a language is more similar to Slavic than a younger one, have been made also in the case of some other old languages, e.g. Sanskrit (Vedic vs. Classical Sanskrit, as well as vs. modern I-E languages in India), Etruscan p. 344, and Greek (Homer’s vs. Classical).

#6. We can lump certain language branches into “super-branches” like Iranian languages can be lumped with languages of India into Indo-Iranic, and Celtic and Italic languages can form a super-branch “Keltitalic”.
But, ultimately all the branches and super-branches issue from the Slavic trunk. The Slavic languages did not grow out of an “Indo-Germanic” trunk.

#7. Proto-Slavic is in fact synonymous with Proto-Indo-European and aught to be replaced in all literature.

#8. Slavic languages (because they were the substratum in Europe) continue to be more mutually intelligible than do the more recent Germanic, Romance, Celtic and other languages on the Continent.

#9. The Veneti of northern Italy and Wendi, Venedi and other Slavic people of western 93 and central Europe and (especially along the Amber Trail) who share similar spelling were the prototype Slavs and prototype Indo-Europeans. From here they had spread to Vladivostok to the east and Greenland (and North America) to the west, and India to the south east.
The Slavic people did not move westward from the Pripyat River marshes merely 1500 years ago but were autochthonic population of Europe since the Stone Age.
If there were any Slavic migration of any significance they would be in modern times towards Vladivostok. The Slavic toponymy observed in many parts of Europe [15] could be inherited from prehistoric Venetic-Slav populations or their predecessors.

CONCLUSION


From the proto-Slavic core in the Southeastern, Southern and Central Europe (originated from the Adriatic, Danubian, Aegean, and Black-Sea refugia during the Last Glacial Maximum) the people expanded, especially after the introduction of agriculture and stockbreeding in Neolithic.

After the Roman conquest, and especially after German conquest, the Slavic communities in western Europe (Great Britain, France) and central Europe (Germany, Switzeland, Austria, Hungary, Italy) experienced gradual decline and were finally systematically assimilated during last centuries.


Greeks are one of many children nations of the Veneti - Slaveni mother nation



'How do you explain pur n udor?' I suspect that pur, which, like udor n kuon, is found in Phrygian, is a foreign word; for the Hellenes have borrowed much from the barbarians, and I always resort to this theory of a foreign origin when I am at a loss...

Plato, Cratylus

There is an element of which he is unable to give an account. These unintelligible words he supposes to be of foreign origin, and to have been derived from a time when the Greeks were either barbarians, or in close relations to the barbarians.

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Greeks are ok,
but they must not forget their Slavic roots


The affinity of the Slavic and Greek languages has recently been attempted to prove in several works. Dankovsky in his work, Die Griechen als Sprachverwandte der Slaven, Presburg 1828, contends that a knowledge of the Slavic language is of highest importance for the Greek scholar, as the only means by which he may be enabled to clear up obscure passages and to ascertain the signification of doubtful words. Among the historical proofs, he furnishes a vocabulary containing 306 Slavic and Greek words of striking analogy.

"Of three sisters," he observes, "one kept faithful to her mother tongue - the Slavic language; the second gave to that common heritage the highest cultivation - the Greek language; and the third mixed the mother tongue with a foreign idiom - the Latin language." A work of the same tendency has been published in the Greek language, by the Greek priest Constantine, Vienna 1828. It contains a vocabulary of 800 pages of Russian and Greek words, corresponding in sound and meaning.
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Macedonians have right to send FYRoM Yugoslavians to the cleaners for presenting their newly established minor Slavic country, like ‘The Republic of Macedonia’, a clear provocation as far as Greece is concerned, an afront, to Greeks Greece and Hellenism, all in that order.

A Slavic country called ‘Macedonia’ takes something away from Hellenism, takes something away from the Western worlds long-established cultural-historical narrative too. In that narrative, Macedonians enter history books as Centum Greek-speaking Hellenic peoples…FYRoM using their name for country-name – sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity, blurs the distinction between ancient-Greeks and Yugoslavs. Some children, pupils, and students, in FYRoM already believe Macedonians originate from Proto-Slavs, and Alexander the Great was Aleksandar Veliki, the first Czar of the Slavs.

Macedonians have UN recognized right to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their Haemus-Hellenic ancestors. Macedonians have rights. FYRoM has the gall, the front, and the face to trample on the rights of Macedonians wanting to keep their ancient and archaic, Macedonian name and Identity, Hellenic. FYRoM deprives Macedonians from practicing their UN recognized self-determination right when they, a minor Slavic country, presents itself to the outside world like ‘Republic of Macedonia’. The Slavs there deprive Macedonians from their primordial Haemus-Hellenic, Proto-Identity. First recorded identity for Macedonians was Haemus-Hellenic, a recorded historical reference-point which cannot change without historian classicist-scholars having their say on the matter.

Identity is inherited, passed-on, from one ethnic-racial, cultural-linguistic generation to the next one. Macedonian-Identity cannot change from Haemus-Hellenic to Yugo-Slavic with passing of time. Macedonian-Identity was cast in Hellenic mould >3 Milleniums ago…from since days of King Karanus, the first King of Macedon. Macedonian-Identity thrives on Hellenic reputation – FYRoM cannot match those expectations nor live up to that reputation.

Greeks ask that FYRoM distinguish itself from the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon, and Yugoslavs distinguish themselves from Macedonians…in such a way as to enable observers and the outside world to differentiate Greeks from Slavs, Macedonians from Yugoslavs, Haemus-Hellene from South-Slav. FYRoM cannot exist as ‘The Republic of Macedonia’- that name belongs in Greek domain and Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek heritage.

The rights of native indigenous autochthonous population groups are protected under UN charter. The UN recognizes the rights of Macedonians. Macedonians have right to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their Haemus-Hellenic ancestors…FYRoM deprives Macedonians from exercizing that right, to keep Macedonian Name in Greek domain and Macedonian-Identity to Greek heritage.

Nobody of worth, political diplomatic or academic, places the rights of FYRoM above the rights of Macedonians wanting to practice their self-determination right in the tradition of their regional-historical, Haemus-Hellenic ancestors. Think about that for a moment! FYRoM is Paeonia – If the Yugoslavs there claim native indigenous autochthonous rights…the UN shall recognize them as Paeonians, and then Dardanians north from Skopje. Macedonians have always been a Centum Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples from since the days of King Karanus, the first King of Macedon, 778-808BC.

Blurring the distinction between (i) Macedonia and Paeonia,(ii) Macedonians from Yugoslavs,(iii) Haemus-Hellene from South-Slav, contributes to the erosion of Western Civil Societies common understandings in shared common heritage…the very fabric from which the West wove it’s cloth, the glue that binds Western democracies to adhere to common Civilizational Principles. Erode the Western worlds cultural-historical narrative. Erode the Wests cultural-historical heritage. Erode Western Civil Societies common understandings of shared common heritage, now sit back and watch the Western worlds cultural-foundation crumble.

FYRoM is not Macedonia and the peoples there are Slavic. The West Owes FYRoM Nothing – The West Owes Macedonians a great deal. Macedonians deserve respect…for their contributions to development of Western Civilization.

Two John Smiths could live in peace, side by side, next door to each other, but if one John Smith decides to paint his house exactly the same as the other John Smiths house…claim his lineage and take on his Identity – What should the first John Smith do ?

In the framework of the Name-dispute which exists between FYRoM and Greece – What should Greece do ? How should Greece react to FYRoM Yugoslavians taking on Macedonian Identity when Macedonian Identity is far too rooted in Hellenism to be contested,

FYRoM is not Greek enough to have Macedonian name attributed to Yugoslavians on ethnic level, in cultural-linguistic sense. FYRoM is simply far too rooted in Slavic heritage to take-on the name of an ancient and archiac, regional-historical, Paleo-Haemus, Hellenic people-group. Macedonia is simply too Greek a name for FYRoM to covet.

Macedonians have always been a Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples...a regional-historical people-group of ethnic-Greek stock.

FYRoM is not Macedon and the peoples there are Slavic, same like Slovenians, Serbians, Croatians and Bulgarians…this collective forms Southern-branch of Slavdom. There was never, in recorded history of the Slavs, a Macedonian tribe of Slavs. Slavs used Slavic names for self-identity and for self-determination purposes.

Macedonians belong to Hellenic collective, with religious affiliations, fraternal kinship ties, blood connections towards Hellenism and other Greeks. So those who see FYRoM like Macedonia and Yugoslavians like Macedonians, are by nature, anti-Hellenic, anti-Western by extension. Those who see Paeonia like Macedonia are void of geographic and historical knowledge. Those who see Yugoslavians like Macedonians, see them that way through anti-Hellenic eyes. Those who see Macedonian things in FYRoM and see Macedonian things on Yugoslavians, have issues with Greeks, geography, history and demography.

I say again: FYRoM is not Macedonia and the peoples there are Slavic…on the other hand, Macedonians have always been a Centum Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples from since >3 Millenniums. The Western world owes them respect! The ancient-Kingdom of Macedon and Macedonians contributed greatly towards development of Western Civilizational Principles. FYRoM and the Yugoslavians that live there contributed nothing! Only anti-Hellenic drongo imbeciles dare to see FYRoM like Macedonia and dare to speak their mind on the subject. Nobody of worth, political diplomatic or academic places the rights of FYRoM above the rights of Macedonians wanting to keep as Greek as possible, the identity-characteristics of their regional-historical Haemus-Hellenic ancestors.

FYRoM has no right, historical or cultural, to take-on the name and identity of a Hellenic people-group. South-Slavs have their own primordial tribal names. FYRoM could pick and chose any number of Slavic names for country-name…sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. The Macedonian name they cannot have without distinction. The Macedonian name belongs in Greek domain. Macedonian-Identity belongs to Greek heritage. Those who deny these things are anti-Hellenic at heart, anti-Western by default, because they blur the distinction between Macedonians and Yugoslavians and deprive Western Civil Societies common understandings of shared common heritage.