Alexander the Great : Greek or SouthSlav

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FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs compare to the Bulgarians, both in speech and in genous. They are one and the same peoples. They look the same and they speak the same language.

They are Bulgarians in transition...after going through a Serbianization process and coming out the other side as a somewhat confused Serbo-Bulgarian concoction wanting to use the ancient-Greek name Macedonia(n) to Identify with.

FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs want to use the Macedonian name to describe themselves ethnically, racially, culturally and linguistically.

They also want to use the Macedonian name for their new Slavic country, nationality, language and ethnicity when it is known, these Identity factors do not bode well with
Slavonic peoples.

Macedonians have always been Greeks...Northern-Greeks Not Southern-Slavs!

But FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs were never told that...that information was kept from them, and still is kept from them.

In FYRoM, inside their schools colleges and universities, they are taught to think of themselves as Macedonians and to think of ancient-Macedonians as Slavs.

It's not who you are...It's what you are! If you claim to be a Macedonian with Slavic origins and from South-Slavic stock, then you cannot possibly be a Macedonian in the Greek sense of that word. The first Macedonians were a Greek speaking Hellenic peoples and the current Macedonians are the same...confused, you will be!

FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs claim to be Macedonians...but Macedonians were the Greeks who's ancestors initiated that campaign to liberate the Greek City-States from Persian rule. Those Macedonians exported Hellenism, the Greek-Hellenic language, knowledge and culture to the farthestmost regions of the then known ancient-world. They built an ancient-Greek city in Tajikistan, the furthest Alexandrian city from the Macedonian homeland.

It's not who you are...Macedonian

It's what you are...Greek-Hellenic

If we apply that rule to FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs, their so called and much covetted Macedonian Identity is just a shell empty of the substance...to be Macedonian you have to be Greek in the first place.

If being Macedonian means being Greek in the first place...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs should respect that!

It's not who you are but what you are and FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are exactly what it says on the Tin...South-Slavs
from Serbian and Bulgarian stock.

Macedonians are Greeks...Northern-Greeks from Macedonia, Not Southern-Slavs from Bulgaria and Serbia.

For Self-Identity: FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs should have Introduced themselves properly, they should have told the world they are South-Slavs but Macedonians too...in the goegraphic context!

For a South-Slavic people to wantonly attempt a preemptive strike at traking the Macedonian name away from the Greeks smacks of Makedonism...an expansionist outdated Slavist Ideology with intentions to expand Slavdom southwards to Greece then onwards to the Aegean Sea!

It's not who you are but what you are

FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are exactly what it says on the Tin...South-Slavs from Serbian or Bulgarian stock.

Macedonians are Greeks...Northern-Greeks from Macedonia, Not Southern-Slavs from Bulgaria and Serbia.

For a South-Slavic peoples to wantonly attempt a preemptive strike at taking the Macedonian name away from the Greeks smacks of Makedonism...a now outdated expansionist Slavist Ideology, which had intentions to expand Slavdom southwards to Greece then onwards to the Northern shores of the Aegean Sea!

FYRoM's Slavists continue to follow this Ideology!

FYRoM must understand that Slavists cannot undo the past by simply rewriting history!

Historical revisionism and pseudo-history...rewriting the long established mainstream historical narrative solely for the tuition of FYRoM's Slavic children pupils and students has had it's consequences, it has spawned a generation of misguided Slavic children who passionately think of themselves as Macedonians and think of ancient-Macedonians as Slavs...FYRoM's Slavists have brainwashed them, Indoctrinated them, and damaged them beyond repair!

It's not who you are but what you are. Macedonians know who they are and what they are...Greeks to the Core!

It's not who [Macedonian] you are!

It's what [Greek-Hellenic] you are!

If being Macedonian means being Greek in the first place, then FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs should learn to respect that!

Macedonians are Northern-Greeks Not Southern-Slavs!

When your neighbour paints his house the same as your house,
how should you react...calmly I suggest!

When your neighbour decorates the inside of his house to resemble your house, how should you react...with curiosity I suggest!

When your neighbour adorns the walls of his house with portraits of your ancient-relatives, how should you react...with suspicion I suggest!

When your neighbour engraves and carves the names of your ancestors into the walls of his house, how should you react...with caution I suggest!

When your neighbour marks the door of his house with your ancient-symbols, how should you react...with anger I suggest!

When your neighbour takes on your Identity and attempts to pass himself off as You, how should you react...with extreme annoyance I suggest!

When your neighbour teams-up with with another neioghbour and attempts to rubbish your name, your history at that address and your ethno-cultural Identity, how should you react...with Vexation I suggest!

When your neighbour starts a hate campaign against You, Your relatives and Your ancient-relative...how should You react!

You take him by the scruff of the Neck and politley ask him to Stop otherwise you shall squeez the heebie jeebies out of him...Come Hell or High Water!

Greeks are being forced to accept the Idea that today, Macedonians are those who feel it, the ones who feel that way, and if one feels like a Macedonian then he or she has the right to self-Identify that way. FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs feel like Macedonians and they confound it by calling themselves ethnic-Macedonians. Ethnic-Identity should be taken to refer to a notion of shared ancestry even if imaginary, those found sharing in the same feelings and the same cultural practices have right to refer to it by name.

FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs call themselves Makedonci, their language Makedonski and their country Republic of Macedonia.
They want the world to recognize them as Alexander the Greats children...Macedonians with a sting, because from here it gets murky! They want the world and their Greek neighbours to recognize them as a Nation of Slavic-speaking Macedonians, the modern descendants of Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians from antiquity.

Greeks say No! FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are Not Macedonians in the Greek sense of that word...they can be Macedonians if they feel it but only in the regional-geographic context, not in the ethnic or racial context or cultural-linguistic context. Macedonia(n), when this term is used today, it is used to refer to the peoples of more than one country.

Macedonia(n) today is geographic-Identity not National-Identity. FYRoM seeks to usurp the Macedonian-Identity exclusively, on the pretext of a feeling. If the measure of ethnicity was determined in "feelings" then Macedonians are Greeks, madly passionate about their Greekness from since they first developed their Hellenic ethno-linguistic Identity and Hellenic ethno-cultural values and practices.

That FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs had the front and the gall to call themselves Macedonians on the basis of a feeling should be taken with a pinch of salt...there is no way that feeling could have been assigned "Macedonian," more likely that feeling was wind or stomach cramps. There is no one to one relationship between culture and ethnicity. That cultural differences cut across ethnic boundaries, and that
ethnic-Identity is based solely on socially sanctioned notions of cultural-differences be it imaginary ones, leads us to conclude that FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs went through a social-engineering process, ethnically manipulated to develop collective memories, in other words, taught to think of themselves as Macedonians and to think of ancient-Macedonians as Slavs.

Sicko - shouldn't you worry about GREECE instead?

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Much effort has gone into de-Hellenizing Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians from antiquity in order to make them Slavic but the facts and the evidence remain
true and steadfast:

1...Macedonians are Greeks...Northern-Greeks from Macedon, the ancient-Kingdom in Northern-Greece.

2...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are Slavs...South-Slavs from Serbia and Bulgaria.

These are the hard facts. To change the Macedonians from ethnic-Greek status to ethnic-Slav status requires gall and alot of bottle...altering the demographic historical record is not easy in this day and age. FYRoM's Slavist orientated revionist pseudo-historians cannot undo the past simply by rewriting it. The long established demographic-history of the Haemus (Balkan) peninsula places the Macedonians into the Greek domain and in with the Greek-Hellenic collective of peoples. Can FYRoM's Slavists really alter this!

The answer ofcourse is No...but that has not stopped them from trying!

FYRom's rogue-scholars, pseudo-historians, mind-architects and specialist-propandists, between all of them, have produce 1001 Theories Ideas and Conjectures which attempt to alter the demographic history of Haemus (Balkan) peninsula by making the Slavic-race native and indigenous to the region. They went further and scripted themselves a history and a heritage which disconnected the Greeks from Macedonians and instead, connected the Slavic-race to Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians from antiquity.

FYRoM's pseudo-historical ethno-genesis narrative revulsed not just the Greeks but all of their neighbours...bar Turkey. Turkey supports their revisionism, in-fact Turkey and FYRoM work in tandem to script the Turkic-race a history back to the ancient-Trojans and to script the Slavic-race a history back to the ancient-Macedonians.

Both Turanid and Slavist propaganda themes and synergies are commonly used. Both Turkic and Slavic pseudo-historians openly support any Theory Idea or Conjecture that seperates Macedonians from the rest of the Greek. They continue to cite Mario Alinei and the PCT theory which surmises the Slavic Satem language groups to be native to the Haemus peninsula. It is just a Theory...it has not attained academic approval, therefore it cannot possibly halt, shelve or put on hold the current mainstream view which places the ethno-genesis of the Slavic peoples far outside the boundaries of the Haemus (Balkan) peninsula.

Another Turkic-Slavist project involved the flawed genetic study from A.Arnaiz-Villena which made Greek Dna African, according to his team...all of them FYRoM Slavics, clustered
the Greek sample in with the African samples and quickly put it to print. The results were assigned to propaganda on the basis FYRoM's genetic scientists under the auspices of Villena doctored the results, something that was never duplicated or repeated in European-wide genetic studies. Thus, FYRoM earned a reputation through-out Europe, a bad one for being sneaky and slippery and downright repugnant towards European values of decency and honourable behaviour at the International level.

They also cite bogus-fake Oxford university genetic studies
which apparently Identified the highest concentration of the Mediterenean gene in the Slavs of FYRoM.

Somebody has to tell them and in no uncertain terms that Macedonians are Greeks...Northern-Greeks Not Southern-Slavs and these Greek original Macedonians never ever gave their permission for their ancient-archaic, regional-tribal name to be used in the ethnic-racial context by FYRoM's South-Slavs.

...he didn't notice that because of his psychotic posts most people who see them are soon convinced that the greek agenda is a psychotic fantasy..

Steady-On Slovenia dude...You guys started it, right!

Wasn't it You guys that Poisoned the Atmosphere between us!

The Greeks woke-up one morning and found the World Wide Web littered with anti-Hellenic propaganda...from our supposed friends and co-religionists, the Christian-Orthodox Slavs.

I had No Idea our South-Slavic neighbours were so anti-Hellenic.

From since 2007...I have been campaigning for the Greeks to re-assess their strategic-partnerships and relationships in the Haemus!

your focus on your ego too much, nick.
South Slavs are not specially anti helenic, they are just not helenic.

as for slovenes, in the same context, we are not latinic and not germanic, yet we are autochtonous.
Actually, the slavonics are the substratum, on which the helenes, the latins and the germans grew. That is why slavonic languages are central among indoeuropean languages.

it is not some antihelenic propaganda, as you think. it is just a slavonic awakening.
the militant powers have been supressing us too long.
and the fabrication of history is a big part of the suppression.
but in modern times, it is impossible to hyde the truth. it can be twisted and manipulated from high places, but not in eternity.

you are wrong if yuo think this is a politically orchestrated action.
the autochtonists have very little or no support from the governments. Macedonia is the only one to have a little official support, because no government would survive if it would be so out of touch with reality. in slovenia, on the contrary, the official historians are doing everything they can to suppress the autochtonists, because they are a buch of political whores and our politicians are servants of the vatican and washington.

we are claiming our celto-slavic heritage back.

if you want greeks to reassess strategic partners in the haemus, the best way is to recognize their slavonic neighbours as the descendants of the macedonians and thracians.

then, together we can stand united against the roman satan and his anglosaxon beast.

wake up, Nicko, we are not against you in any way.
you just got stuck with the macedonians. but tell me, what do you really need from them? do you want their land?
they don't want your land, so what is the problem?
is it just your ego?
now imagine the ego of the slavonics, being denied their true history for so long!
you are angry, if your neighbours are proud of ther history, how would you feel, if the americans would write your schoolbooks where they aould claim you are not descendants of ancient greeks, but of the turks, who cam emuch later and that you have nothing to do with ancient greeks?
can you imagine that?

we have nothing against the greek. we see you as a part of our ancient culture. an important and noble part of our culture, very special and highly developed. it was not perfect of course, as nothing is, but your culture is certainly something to be proud of.
do you understand me?
we are not your adversaties.
you could also be proud of us, the ancient european culture, the genetoi, henetoi, uenetoi. the root, on which your noble ancient greek ancestors have grown.

macedonians and greeks had disputes in history, no doubt about it. there were also clashes with the celts.
but there was also cooperation,
similar as with slavonic tribes. we had good and bad times throughout history. but that is no reason for hate.

we dont hate you for being greek, why should we?
do you hate us for being slavonic?

you should be faithful to your greek traditions and heritage.
why dont you want us to be faithful to ours?
why do you want us to keep repeating the grotesque fiction of history the romano-germans have inflicted upon us instead of our true history?

please, take some time to think about it...

think good
and be well
;)

1...Really! I do that ?

2...Most of the anti-Hellenic jibes nowadays emanate from two sources...(i) South-Slavic sources and (ii) Turkic sources.

3...Slavic speaking autochthonous ??? Are the Satem Slavic languages Indigenous to the Haemus ? and before you say Yes, why were they not Infuenced by the latin language of the Ruling Romans.

4...Making the Slavs Proto-Europeans even before the Greeks and before the Latins ? This is too much to take in right now. The Slavic languages are Not central among Indo-European language are they, in fact there is a polarization between Satem on the one side and Centum on the other side.

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2 - i m not familiar with the turkish view in this context. i know they are an old north east asian group of peoples ( i mean the large turkish group, not just the ones in turkey) but i see no cooperation betwen the turkish school and the slavonic autochtonists, because of long standing political dispute( not just political, the turks supressed the serbs (as they supressed the greeks)quite violently, as far as i know) . so you can hardly see them as on the same side because they are not . the turks are not the focus of the slavonic - i havent noticed any autochtonist slavonic mentioning them. all i know is that the large turkish family of nations also has not had an objective role in written history, but were diminuished by western scholars. so i might understand their wish to know more about their ancient history - but that is what i think and not what i know, because, as i said, i havent studied them much

3 - here, take a look:
[link to www.jandacek.com]
[link to www.jandacek.com]

the romans did not impose their language on country dwellers in provinces to such an extent as the germans did. so romanization was very limited. consider the romans ruling for 400 years, compared to the germans ruling for a thousand years - but we still have the language.
in spite of the fact, that germans actually wanted actively to germanise us also with public schools in german language.

but they have succeded to push the germanic - slavonic linguistic border to the east and south.

in the same context, the romans also succeded to push the romanic - slavonic border. northern italy, for instance, was not roman in roman times, but etruscan, celtic and vendic. that mean almost one half of italy...

4 - actually, there is no kentum group, as you can see in the link i posted above. the only thing the kentum languages corresponds is their similarity to the slavonic - satem languages. but they are all similar from different perspectives, exactly, as if the slavonic would be the linguistc centre and the kentum lanaguages peripheral.
there is a modern scientific direction, called the paleolithic continuity theory, based on genetics, which shows, that some 75% of europeans derive from native europeans since the paleolithic.

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1...Slavonic awakening! look at the damaged this awakening has done to Greco-Slavic relations at the people level. Slavist Makedonists from FYRoM have litter the Internet with vile and virulent anti-Hellenic racist propaganda and still do. Greeks have low opinion on Slavdom right now!

2...Greeks are part of this are they, suppressing Slavs and fabricating history...You Crazy, right!

3...Slavists cannot undo the past simply by rewriting it.
Greek history is interwoven with many other ancient-peoples histories, some of synchrionised long before the Slavonic tribes set foot on Greco-Latin soil.

4...I speak from the FYRoM perspective. There, it is political. The ruling elite in FYRoM have taken Makedonism, a Slavist based expansionist Ideology and the revision of history to an absurd [Theme-Park] level.

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1...I call that place FYRoM because there is Nothing Macedonian there. The people there are from Serbian and Bulgarian stock and land there is ancient-Paeonia in the North and ancient-Dardania in the South. This is the Reality of it, evidenced by the historical-archeological and ancient-demographic records.

2...Why would the Vatican work in tandem with Washington to suppress a few autochthonists from Slovenia, I dont get it!

3...Celto-Slavic heritage, I never heard this one before, but good-luck, go for it dude!

4...Slavs are neither of these things are they ?
Macedonians were and still are, a Greek speaking Hellenic peoples native to the Haemus peninsula. It was the ancient-Macedonians that Hellenized the Thracians, a Brother peoples and a Sister Nation to the Greeks.

5...The Roman Satan and his Anglo-Saxon beast!!! This is getting spooky right now.

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1...They are Not Macedonians are they, they are South-Slavs from Serbian and Bulgarian stock, this is the reality of it, a fact of life which cannot be altered. Greeks want FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs to admit recognize and acknowledge in No uncertain terms, that Alexander the Great was the Greek King of Macedon.

2...The Slavonic peoples true history and heritage in the Haemus [Balkan] peninsula has a starting point, a clear marker which places them into the Greco-Roman world after the Huns, after the Ostro-Goths, and after Visi-Goths but before the Magyars, before the Nordic-Varangians, before the Viking-Rus and the Norman invasions of Italy and the Haemus. That marker point in history is the 6th Century AD.

3...I am angry at FYRoM's Slavists de-Hellenizing Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians from antiquity in order to script them into FYRoM's fabricated ethno-genesis origins. Modern-Greeks can trace their ethno-cultural history and heritage back to the Greco-Roman Byzantines who traced theirs back to the ancient-Hellenes, who traced theirs back to the proto-Greek triibes, the Mycaeneans, in backwards compatible fashion without clashes or conflicts. FYRoM has No right to Rubbish this!

4...This is the best thing said about Greeks from a Slav, that I have read in the last 5 years. For that, I reciprocate and say this: The Slavonic peoples are a great peoples, they have much heritage to be proud about without taking from the Greeks, elements from theirs.

5...Partially!

1...Greeks had a soft-spot for the Slavonic peoples, some still do, but alot dont anymore. A small part of the Slavonic peoples thought it wise to team-up with Turkic propagandists to post anti-Hellenic sentiments on the Internet. Greeks engage with them on a daily basis. Some Slavic peoples are racist towards Greeks, evidenced in their
posts, archived for posterity so that future Greeks can read what Slavs think about them. I am proud of some Slavs who to this day, continue to support the Greeks in their name-dispute with FYRoM, the instigator of the current hatred between Greeks and Slavs and the sole entity who poisoned the atmosphere between the great Slavonic peoples and the Greeks.

2...Macedonians are Greeks, Northern-Greeks from the ancient-Greek Kingdom of Macedon. Any disagreements between Macedonians and other Greeks should be taken in the context of a rift between peoples of the same speech and from the same genous. You mention Celts a few times now, you should know that there exists a peace treaty between ancient-Celts and ancient-Greeks where the Greek side was represented by Alexander the Great. With the Slavs, the Greco-Roman Byzantines moved the Macedonian name, lock-stock and barrel from it's original location to a different location in Thrace...Theme-Macedonia tells all. This is the best demonstration of Greek ownership over the Macedonian name because you know when a name is yours when you move it and take it with you to a totally different place. The Greco-Roman authorities had to do that in order to save the local population from those Slavic Incursions and excruciations.

3...The hates FYRoM started and it has take root now across the globe, especially in the diaspora communties. There are Greeks who see a small portion of the Slavonic peoples as their enemy, out to Rubbish Hellenism in order eradicate the host-culture from the Haemus, the primordial homelands of the Greek-Hellenic peoples from since Millenia.

4...The problems you have with the Romano-Germans you have allowed to cloud you view of Greeks Hellenism and their primordial homelands.

5...I have done that! You keep well also my Slavonic neighbour!

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FYRoM's unhealthy partnership-alliance with Turkey cuts uncomfortably deep, to the point where Turkey bankrolls some NoN-Governmental groups and associations in the diaspora that became active, spearheading the drive to flood the Internet alongside with other Media-outlets with vile and virulent anti-Hellenic propaganda, discrediting the modern-Greeks on their genes, anthroplogy, skin-colour,
race, religion, culture and traditions.

They left no stone unturned...Greeks have every right to be annoyed with FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs!

The Romanization of Rumania was so extensive, it left the peoples there with a linguistic legacy which clamps the Rumanian language firmly into the Latin domain. There is absolutely no merit in what you say about provincial dwellers being unaffected by that Romanization-process.

The Jirecek line, the delineation line, the divide which seperates the Hellenized portions of the Haemus from the Latinized portions cuts through the Northern border of FYRoM and carries on Eastwards cutting half-way through Bulgaria. North of this line is where Latin Influence was in the ascedency. The Romanized parts of the Haemus were equally as effective as the Hellenized parts. Slavs inhabiting either or both areas would have had their language Influenced either by Greek South of the Jirecek line or Latin North of it.

The accute shortage of Latin-Influences on the Slavonic languages North of the Jireck line goes a long way in proving that the Slavonic language were not Indigenous ethnic-languages native to the Haemus peninsula, but rather exogenous languages that were Introduced into the region sometime around the 6th Century AD.

I refer you to a process known as Slavicization. The Bulgarians went through it and came out the other side as fully fledged Slavic speakers when ethnogenists know the proto-Bulgar tribes as being a Turkic peoples.

South-Slavs speak Slavic now but it is still unclear what they spoke before adopting the Slavonic language and culture!

[link to www.jandacek.com]

The link is a piece of propaganda with no academic merit...see Reference 26 here:


26 - A Arnaiz-Villena, K Dimitroski, A Pacho, J Moscoso, E Gómez-Casado, C Silvera-Redondo, P Varela, M Blagoevska, V Zdravkovska, J Martın, HLA genes in Macedonians and the sub-Saharan origin of the Greeks, Tissue Antigens 2001, 57, 118–127; cf.: [link to www.makedonika.org]
FYRoM Propaganda article used as a reference...Silliness, right!


The names listed above are FYRoM Slavic. They were the supposed scientists who aided and abetted the Spanish haematologist A.Arnaiz-Villena and his team, who together rigged the results of a genetic test carried out in FYRoM which placed Greek Dna in with the African cluster to give the impression that Greeks have African Dna.

These findings caused consternations in Europe where Greek Dna was tested in a European-wide genetic studies which could not replicate FYRoM's state sponsored study which purposely placed Greek Dna in the African cluster.

This is just one of FYRoM's spectacular attempts Rubbishing the Greeks and their culture. FYRoM is a hostile country to Hellas and Greeks treat them as hostiles...out to ridicule and humiliate Greeks and Hellenism.

We No longer give them the time of day...we keep them at arms length at a distance until the people there respect more the native-peoples of the Haemus.

Makedonism in FYRoM is dangerous. Slavists there continue to spread historical-revisionism and pseudo-history in order to compliment an outdated expansionist Ideology from the imperialist era which had envisioned Slavdom stretching southwards down to Greece then onwards to the Northern shores of the Aegean Sea.

Makedonism in FYRoM is dangerous, it can be viewed within the context of an unsettled Tectonic-Plate, resting uneasy alongside other Tectonic-Plates, pressing down hard on the sides of the long-established settled ones. FYRoM's uneasy restlessness alongside it's neighbours is sending-out shock-waves far exceeding the regions natural capacity to absorb.

FYRoM, a new Slavic country seeks to establish itself in the Haemus [Balkan] peninsula as a Nation of Slavic speaking Macedonians when the long established mainstream historical narrative places the Macedonians into the Greek domain, in with the Greek collective of peoples.

See what I mean about shockwaves!

Macedonians are Greeks...Northern-Greeks from the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon located in Northern-Greece. The Macedonian name belongs to no-one but the Greeks and their legacy belongs to Greek heritage.

Had FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs Introduced themselves to the world as Slavs but Macedonians too, Greeks would have sat down with them to discuss precisely, their Macedonian credentials, but they didn't do that...instead, they told the world that Alexander the Great was the first Czar of the Slavs and the ancient-Macedonians were proto-Slavic peoples.

Greeks have long been settled in the Haemus peninsula and they have now become sensitized to FYRoM's anti-Hellenic propaganda antics...every word they say there, and every step they take there is scrutinized.

Macedonia for the Greeks constitutes a large potyion of their geography and an even larger portion of their national-history and cultural-heritage...Greeks aim to keep all of those Macedonian Identity factors because we owe it to our ancestral-forebears to do that.

From since 1991, FYRoM's unsetled restlessness in the Haemus is acting like that Tectonic-Plate, pressing down hard trying to fit-in but in doing that...is sending-out shockwaves, each recent one becoming more powerful than the previous one, and so on!

Do the Greeks have the right to defend and protect their National-history and cultural-heritage from the likes of FYRoM's rogue scholars, psuedo-historians and specialist-propagandists who are hell-bent on scripting themselves a fabricated history and heritage which is foriegn to their ethno-cultural backround...the answer ofcourse, is YES, Greeks do have rights, they have historic-rights and an ethical-moral duty to do that.

So why do Slavist-Makedonists even attempt to connect FYRoM to the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon when ancient-Macedonians were Greek speakers and Hellenic people and FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are Not! Slavist school taught young Slavic children to think of themselves as Macedonians and to think of ancient-Macedonians as Slavs...they were never taught Macedonians are Greeks and Macedonia is Hellenic land.

So, is Macedonia Hellenic YES or NO

Well, that question entirely depends on which Macedonia one is talking about?

If one is talking about the Ancient-Kingdom of Macedon, then the answer is YES!

If one is talking about Macedonia II Salutaris...then the answer is NO!

Macedonia-Secunda-Salutaris is where FYRoM is situated right Now!

FYRoM is situated on an administrative district the latin-Romans named Macedonia II Salutaris, an add-on adjuncted to the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon when the latin-Romans established Roman-rule over the Haemus peninsula. The Romans distinguished that added-on part, the beneficial Salutaris part, from the original ancient-Greek Kingdom which the Romans called Macedonia-Prima, meaning the first and foremost Macedonia.

FYRoM is Macedonia-Secunda...meaning, the Second-Macedonia! It has nothing to do with the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon where Alexander the Great was born, making FYRoM's claims to a Macedonian-Identity rooted in classical antiquity absurd and wishful thinking!

Macedonians have always been Greeks, Northern-Greeks from the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are Not one of these!

For 21 years, FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs have Rubbished Ridiculed and Humiliated the Greeks over their National-history and cultural-heritage. They do it believing they could take the Macedonian name away from the Greeks on the basis they are the real Macedonians because they live in Macedonia and speak Macedonian but none of those Identity factors bode well with South-Slavs.

As we have just established...FYRoM is Not Macedonian-land,
rather it is an add-on the latin-Romans adjuncted to the ancient-Kingdom, evidenced in the name Macedonia-Secunda-Salutaris. FYRoM can have this name to describe themselves, their new Slavic-country, nationality, language and ethnicity!

FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are South-Slavs living in Macedonia-Secunda-Salutaris, speaking a hybrid Serbo-Bulgarian language...these are the facts, there is Nothing authentically Macedonian in FYRoM and thats the truth!

The PCT Theory is just a Theory...It has not attained academic following from reputable scholars rendering it somewhat sterile.

The assertions made by Mario Alinei do not represent the consensus among linguists, historical or otherwise. In particular, the so-called "Paleolithic Continuity Theory", which he champions, is (to say the least) controversial. It posits that at the end of the last Ice Age...some 13 thousand years ago, the Indo-European languages were already established and divided into the ancestors of the Germanic, Celtic, Italic, Slavic, Baltic and their subgroups, whose speakers were the first humans to repopulate Europe after the ice retreated, occupying roughly the same territories where they live today.

This places a differentiation from the common Indo-European language thesis of approximately 1.5 - 2.5 times farther back into the past than some other approaches do, it appears somewhat inconsistent and incompatible with an accumulation of other evidence as well.

The PCT Theory deserves fuller discussion ofcourse, but as far as I can see, it has not made many converts amongst reputable scholars who are more knowledgeable about the facts that it deals with, whether they are "traditional" approaches or "interdisciplinary" approaches or whatever.

Anyhow, like I said before:

Theories Ideas and Conjectures of any kind cannot be allowed to halt, put on-hold or permantly shelve the long established mainstream current view, pending their academic approval

The PCT theory is just a Theory currently void of any academic Merit...No serious scholar supports it's findings in any serious or valuable way.

DGTBK. CIGAW?

FYRoM's Slavist Makedonists cannot undo the past simply by rewriting it.

FYRoM's historical revisionism and Pseudo-history needs more followers than just the Indoctrinated Serbian and Bulgarian peoples that subscribe to it.

Macedonians were Macedonians ofcourse but Greeks to boot, by default!

It's not who you are but what you are! Macedonians Spartans Athenians Corinthians etc, all of them Greeks to the core...who denies it but the Slavs of FYRoM!

Macedonians were Macedonians because the term Greek was not applied alongside the term Macedonian...this is the kind of Slavist Indoctrinated Silliness Greeks have to contend with.

Macedonians have always been Greek speaking Hellenic peoples...we know this from since they first learned to read and write, they have been telling us about their Greekness in ways which are still apparent even today!

FYRoM's Indoctrinated ex-Yugoslavs sift and search through historical text's for the term "Macedonian" and apply it to Serbo-Bulgarian people...themselves!

This is not right and somebody has to explain to them that Macedonians are Greeks...Northern-Greeks from the ancient-Kingdom of Macedon situated in Northern-Greece.

If left to wallow in their own nostalgia...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs shall convert their country into a Theme-Park Wonderland based on the Las Vegas model, where gigantic larger than life statues of ancient-Greek hero's adorn their streets boulevards and highways.

Before 1991, there were No gigantic Greek statues in FYRoM!

After 1991, FYRoM initiated a Makedonist theme to their politics and began to change. The country began to take on the look and the feel of ancient-Greece, where Alexander the Great and his father King Philip grace the interior of that country with their names and their presence everywhere in the form of Las Vegas style larger than life statues and figurines.