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Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Alexander the Great was blonde, I don't know any blonde Greeks. I know lots of blonde Macedonians. Blondism and Greeks...There are more blond Greeks than blond Slavs from FYRoM. Blondism in Greeks runs 10 - 15% of the total population. I personally, have not seen one blond people from FYRoM, but I know there must be some. You just met a blonde from Bitola, my father was blonde and my great-grandmother too. My son is blonde as well. We look nothing like the Bulgarians, they have Mongolian eyes, we don't. Lot's of Russian's and Pol's have those eyes too. Hair care: If blond hair means alot to you, always use a mild heat setting on your hair dryer...how did you me to respond. The making of a Macedonian has less to do with hair colour than to do with Hellenism. Hellenes: Macedonians are one of these. If you speak Slavonic but do not consider yourself to be Slavic, just Slavicized...what was you before Slavicization occured ??? |
Son Of Macedon User ID: 28740077 North Macedonia 12/16/2012 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One question for you Nick. Quoting: Son Of Macedon - Was Phillip II, Alexander's father, a greek also? Macedonians are the Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 808 - 778 BC. "... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave" - Demosthenes, Third Philippic, 31. The famous words that this Greek orator from Athens used to describe the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great, prior to Philip’s conquest of Greece. Care to explain this then? |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One question for you Nick. Quoting: Son Of Macedon - Was Phillip II, Alexander's father, a greek also? Macedonians are the Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 808 - 778 BC. "... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave" - Demosthenes, Third Philippic, 31. The famous words that this Greek orator from Athens used to describe the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great, prior to Philip’s conquest of Greece. Care to explain this then? Demosthenes calls Philip a “barbarian”; that is, a non-Greek? Yes, he does. But beyond the fact that Demosthenes harbored a personal grudge against Philip because of the humiliation he suffered when he lost his power of speech at the Macedonian court (Aischines, On the Embassy 35), Demosthenes could call anyone he did not like a barbarian, including fellow Athenians (e.g. 21.150). The word, at least in some uses by Demosthenes and others, should be understood as a generic insult. Thus, for example, in some parts of the USA people are dubious that people from other parts are “real Americans.” [link to macedonia-evidence.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268471 United States 12/16/2012 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471 Alexander the Great was blonde, I don't know any blonde Greeks. I know lots of blonde Macedonians. Blondism and Greeks...There are more blond Greeks than blond Slavs from FYRoM. Blondism in Greeks runs 10 - 15% of the total population. I personally, have not seen one blond people from FYRoM, but I know there must be some. You just met a blonde from Bitola, my father was blonde and my great-grandmother too. My son is blonde as well. We look nothing like the Bulgarians, they have Mongolian eyes, we don't. Lot's of Russian's and Pol's have those eyes too. Hair care: If blond hair means alot to you, always use a mild heat setting on your hair dryer...how did you me to respond. The making of a Macedonian has less to do with hair colour than to do with Hellenism. Hellenes: Macedonians are one of these. If you speak Slavonic but do not consider yourself to be Slavic, just Slavicized...what was you before Slavicization occured ??? Actually, my father's side of the family moved into Macedonia in the early 1300's and we are Jewish but changed our name during WWII. BTW, we have blonde Gypsies in Bitola too. |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol nice try Nick, but it's not the Barbarian thing that is important it's the.. Quoting: Son Of Macedon "... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks.. " I think this statement says it all. Cheers! There exists a wealth of knowledge - accumulated and dispensed at the worlds most prestigious learning institutions which place the ancient-Macedonians into the Greek domain, in with the Greek-Hellenic collective of peoples. Macedonians were just one of many ancient-Greek groups tribes and Kingdoms...>230 that we know about. The Demosthenes quote has been interpreted to resemble a political squabble where the Macedonian party is made to look lesser Greek than the Athenian one. [link to macedonia-evidence.org] 372 scholars of the classics and Graeco-Roma history stand behind Greece in the name dispute fiasco with FYRoM. Macedonians are Greek and Greeks have always lived in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece. Some things cannot be altered. Some things were not meant to be changed! |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219 Blondism and Greeks...There are more blond Greeks than blond Slavs from FYRoM. Blondism in Greeks runs 10 - 15% of the total population. I personally, have not seen any blond people from FYRoM, but I know there must be some. Actually, my father's side of the family moved into Macedonia in the early 1300's and we are Jewish but changed our name during WWII. BTW, we have blonde Gypsies in Bitola too. Ok! but that was way too much information Goran...or should I call you Schlomo ? |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At some stage it shall dawn on the Slavic speakers of FYRoM that the Makedonski-language they speak has no ethnic relatedness to the Macedonian-language of lore. At some stage our Slavic-speaking Makedonci brothers will have to recognize that the Macedonians of lore were Greek-speakers and Hellenic-peoples. When that day dawns...what a wonderful day that shall be! Macedonians...both Greek speakers and Makedonci speakers shall learn to respect what they have! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268471 United States 12/16/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268471 Actually, my father's side of the family moved into Macedonia in the early 1300's and we are Jewish but changed our name during WWII. BTW, we have blonde Gypsies in Bitola too. Ok! but that was way too much information Goran...or should I call you Schlomo ? Schlomovska, get it right! |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219 Ok! but that was way too much information Goran...or should I call you Schlomo ? Schlomovska, get it right! Macedonians are the Greeks that still live in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece. Slavic speakers, speaking a hybrid Serbo-Bulgarian language Misnamed to Macedonian-language for political reasons is not a language to be associated with Macedonia or the Macedonians of lore. At some stage, our Slavic speaking brothers shall have to recognize that Macedonians started-off as Greek speaking Hellenic peoples and they are still here today...the same, unaltered and unchanged! Some things cannot be altered. Some things were never meant to change...right! Blond-Schlomovska |
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Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/16/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this configuration were ever to be legitimized: 1 - Country-Name........Macedonian 2 - Nationality.........Macedonian 3 - Ethnicity...........Macedonian 4 - Language............Macedonian Greeks would riot. Macedonia for Greece constitutes a large part of the country's Northern geographical-territory. The Greeks would lose in an instant, one of their ancient and archaic, regional-tribal names where more than 2.5 Million Greeks self-Identify as Macedonians in the regional sense. Nationality follows the country-name, whilst ethnicity follows the language-name, FYRoM fights for this. Proxy - FYRoM fights to obtain these Identity factors in order to take Macedonia away from the Greeks. Sinister moves. Slavist philologists gave them a language and name it Macedonian-language in 1944. Communists gave them a country and named it "Peoples Republic of Macedonia" in 1945 which became a Socialist Republic in 1946. These actions were hostile actions directed at Greece. Looking back: Something was not right in naming a Serbo-Bulgarian language to Macedonian-language...when it is known that Macedonians are a regional-historic population group of ethnic-Greeks. Linguists and Philologists of today are the first to admit that FYRoM's language was in-fact Misnamed to Macedonian-language for political reasons in 1944, nothing more! The Serbo-Bulgarian language that is spoken today by the Slavs of FYRoM has no ethnic relatedness to the Hellenic language that was spoken in antiquity by Alexander the Great but the children - pupils -students there believe it to be the one and same language! Linguists - Philologists - Demographers - Ethnogenists - Historians: All of them support Greece in it's fight to defend - protect it's National-history, heritage and cultural-inheritance from FYRoM's callous state sponsored diaspora-driven anti-Hellenic propaganda. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29075705 Germany 12/18/2012 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That a small Slavic statelet like FYRoM endeavours to acquire for usurpation, a Greek-Hellenic name for self-Identity and for self-determination purposes, the Greeks find perplexing. There is something sinister in wanting to take another peoples name for your name, and when FYRoM pushes to have their Nationality-status, Ethnicity-status and Linguistic-status classified as Macedonian...the Greeks take offense, they see it as a direct threat to the existance of the Nation state of Hellas. Quoting: Nick the Greek 26453219 If this configuration were ever to be legitimized: 1 - Country-Name........Macedonian 2 - Nationality.........Macedonian 3 - Ethnicity...........Macedonian 4 - Language............Macedonian Greeks would riot. Macedonia for Greece constitutes a large part of the country's Northern geographical-territory. The Greeks would lose in an instant, one of their ancient and archaic, regional-tribal names where more than 2.5 Million Greeks self-Identify as Macedonians in the regional sense. Nationality follows the country-name, whilst ethnicity follows the language-name, FYRoM fights for this. Proxy - FYRoM fights to obtain these Identity factors in order to take Macedonia away from the Greeks. Sinister moves. Slavist philologists gave them a language and name it Macedonian-language in 1944. Communists gave them a country and named it "Peoples Republic of Macedonia" in 1945 which became a Socialist Republic in 1946. These actions were hostile actions directed at Greece. Looking back: Something was not right in naming a Serbo-Bulgarian language to Macedonian-language...when it is known that Macedonians are a regional-historic population group of ethnic-Greeks. Linguists and Philologists of today are the first to admit that FYRoM's language was in-fact Misnamed to Macedonian-language for political reasons in 1944, nothing more! The Serbo-Bulgarian language that is spoken today by the Slavs of FYRoM has no ethnic relatedness to the Hellenic language that was spoken in antiquity by Alexander the Great but the children - pupils -students there believe it to be the one and same language! Linguists - Philologists - Demographers - Ethnogenists - Historians: All of them support Greece in it's fight to defend - protect it's National-history, heritage and cultural-inheritance from FYRoM's callous state sponsored diaspora-driven anti-Hellenic propaganda. Ask yourself, why ALL MACEDONIA IN GREECE BEARS MACEDONIAN (SLAVIC) NAMES OF CITIES AND VILLAGES. CONCLUSION IS THE FOLLOWING. 1. MACEDONIANS WERE PROTO SLAVIC PEOPLE. 2. BULGARIANS AND SERBS ARE RELATIVES TO MACEDONIANS (IRISH AND SCOTTISH PEOPLE). I WOULD ADD THAT PELASGIANS WERE SLAVIC PEOPLE. WIENNA WAS WENDENNIA IN ROMAN TIMES, MEANING CITY OF THE WENDS. VIENNA, WAS WENDENA, MEANING CITY OF THE WENDS. IF YOU READ ALL THE NAMES OF THE CITIES IN HALF OF THE GERMANY BEARS SLAVIC ORIGIN OF THE NAMES. BALTIC SEA - BLATNO MORE, MEANS MUD SEE. POMORAVIA = PO MORE, MEANS, NEAR THE SEE. PRUSSIA= PO RUSSIA , MEANS NEAR RUSSIA BUDIM PESSTA ,WAS BUDIMIR GRAD, IT BEARS SLAVIC NAME. BEFORE ROMANIA WAS ROMANISED, WAS SLAVIC IN ITS ORIGIN. EVEN TODAY 30 PERCENT OF THE WORDS ARE SLAVIC. THE SAME WAS IN GREECE. Greece must be open that Macedonians were proto slavic people. And Macedonians must show more evidence in order to conclude their statement. Future will show that history was rewritten. Greek people and Macedonians are not the enemy. The ENEMY IS ISLAM, that invade our lands. The enemy is Albanians and their slave mentality that brings US hegemony into the Balkans. Boromir, from Skopje |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/18/2012 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greeks cannot permit the Slavs of FYRoM to Rubbish their history and heritage. Greeks cannot permit the Slavs of FYRoM to usurp the Macedonian-name for their new country, nationality, language and ethnicity when it is known, these Identity factors do not bode well with Slavs. Macedonians are the Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 808 - 778 BC - an ancient, historic, regional people-group of ethnic-Greek stock...just one of many ancient-Greek groups - tribes - Kingdoms that we know about. The Slavs of FYRoM are not Macedonian, at least not in the Greek sense of that word. They are Makedonski speaking Makedonci people...this is how they describe themselves in their Serbo-Bulgarian language. They make it a condition by insisting the outside-world call them ethnic-Macedonians on the basis of their self-determination right. Greeks cannot permit a NoN-Greek peoples to adopt for usurpation, one of their ancient-archaic, regional-tribal names. According to Slavdom...The Slavs of FYRoM hail from South-Slavic stock. This fact alone excludes them from calling themselves ethnic-Macedonians, their language Macedonian, and their country Macedonia. Macedonians are the Greeks that still live in the historic-region of ancient-Macedon in Northern-Greece, Greek speakers and Hellnic peoples...FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are Not one of these! |
War Lord User ID: 19364503 United States 12/18/2012 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This Greek guy is so convoluted its no wonder his country is the laughing stock of the world. Macedonia(Modern Day) can be traced back to the original Bulgar state prior to Ottoman rule. Look at a fucking map and seriously shut the fuck up. 1 Day... U will find what U R l00kin' for. |
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War Lord User ID: 19364503 United States 12/18/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you think some pampered fuck from Greece that had all the luxuries in the world became the Greatest General modern history has written about? Wake the fuck up. He came from nothing and conquered the world. There is no other way. 1 Day... U will find what U R l00kin' for. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23058480 Netherlands 12/18/2012 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were no Greeks at that time , neither Greek state existed. But were multitude of tribes some what we would call Greek and most not. But were Slavic , Celtic and who knows more. And Slavs did not come from North in 6th century.. What an BS is that it is mindbogglingly. There were no Slavs either at that time as naming Slavs is historically recent. Bunch of BS on this thread.. Not worth even one cent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23058480 Netherlands 12/18/2012 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nick the Great would be perfect example of Athenian. Not an Greek. Athenians were known like arrogant pricks who were many times crushed and from North and from South because of their stupid arrogance. There was no Greek ever that was declared Emperor of the Slavs , but were few so called Slavs ( Serbs ) who were Emperors of the Greeks. Know your History you Athenian and go back building your monuments.. |
War Lord User ID: 19364503 United States 12/18/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were no Greeks at that time , neither Greek state existed. But were multitude of tribes some what we would call Greek and most not. But were Slavic , Celtic and who knows more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23058480 And Slavs did not come from North in 6th century.. What an BS is that it is mindbogglingly. There were no Slavs either at that time as naming Slavs is historically recent. Bunch of BS on this thread.. Not worth even one cent. We're mixing recent geopolitical terms with ancient historical figures. This is true.. the argument should state was he from the Hellenic state of Greece or descendant of the Northern Tribes. I did my research and can conclude he was most likely of Thracian heritage. I was also incorrect in stating he came from "nothing" , he inherited his father's empire and military which is quite the gift. 1 Day... U will find what U R l00kin' for. |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/18/2012 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were no Greeks at that time , neither Greek state existed. But were multitude of tribes some what we would call Greek and most not. But were Slavic , Celtic and who knows more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23058480 And Slavs did not come from North in 6th century.. What an BS is that it is mindbogglingly. There were no Slavs either at that time as naming Slavs is historically recent. Bunch of BS on this thread.. Not worth even one cent. We're mixing recent geopolitical terms with ancient historical figures. This is true.. the argument should state was he from the Hellenic state of Greece or descendant of the Northern Tribes. I did my research and can conclude he was most likely of Thracian heritage. I was also incorrect in stating he came from "nothing" , he inherited his father's empire and military which is quite the gift. Did you research this: [link to macedonia-evidence.org] Did you research this: [link to euroheritage.net] Did you research this: [link to www.flickr.com] You didn't did you Goran ? Instead, you researched this: [link to www.historyofmacedonia.org] FYRoM anti-Hellenic - anti-Western Propaganda site, where everything Hellenic and Western is Beliittled and Rubbished. FYRoM's Slavs have been raised on Turkocentric - Afrocentric - Slavist oriented revisionism and pseudo-history. FYRoM's Slavist orientated pseudo-historians took something good like the classics and Rubbished them...converted them into something Vulgar! |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/18/2012 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nick the Great would be perfect example of Athenian. Not an Greek. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23058480 Athenians were known like arrogant pricks who were many times crushed and from North and from South because of their stupid arrogance. There was no Greek ever that was declared Emperor of the Slavs , but were few so called Slavs ( Serbs ) who were Emperors of the Greeks. Know your History you Athenian and go back building your monuments.. FYRoM Sickness: Symptoms include Greek Envy coupled with delusions of granduer! Thick Illiterate Monkey! |
Anonymous Ward User ID: 30229898 Poland 12/18/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | /This+_3a8862bcf780836176beb6ab0d6221ea.jpg Geek the nick ; Quoting: PLutarch 29396175 statelet of your mind is widely known as pseudo historic bullshit. Keep on stirring it's your great soup ; "Is it not worthy of tears that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet become lords of a single one?" "Remember, conquer your fear and I promise you you will conquer death." Alexander III of Macedon SLAVA !!! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Actually, in the end he wanted to be known as a Persian king. Because the person he looked up to most was Cyrus the Great. Not that it matters but, why honor the man's wishes when you can use him for your own petty nationalistic banter? When you can use him to divide, while Alexander himself looked up to, not a divider, but someone who brought people from all places together? Stupid thread in any case. I AM FROM MACEDONIA, FROM SKOPJE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29075705 This is the real history. Slavs is terminology invented into 18 century. All Balkan people are proto slavic in their origin. THEY HAD SPOKE SIMILAR PROTO SLAVIC LANGUAGE AS TODAY POLISH OR RUS PEOPLE. Macedonians in the history have been ancestors of today Macedonians. Bulgarians and SERBS ARE ALMOST SAME TRIBES AS MACEDONIANS. The difference is such as Irish and Scottish people. ILLIRYANS WERE AND ARE SERBS IN THE HISTORY. TRAKIANS WERE BULGARIANS. GOTHS WERE KOZAKS OR RUS PEOPLE (KOZA IS GOAT ON SLAVIC) VANDALS WERE PREDECESSOR OF POLISH PEOPLE. HISTORY IS REWRITTEN IN ORDER FOR THE BABYLONIAN BROTHERHOOD, OR SHALL I SAY VATICAN TO CONQUER ALL OF EASTERN EUROPE. The name of ancient ARIA , WAS RELIGION OF PROTO SLAVIC PEOPLE. This includes Persia, India. We, Macedonians, Serbs, Bulgarians, can read SANSKRIT, AND UNDERSTAND IT 80 PERCENT. The name of ancient Macedonian city was PELLA IN THE HISTORICAL RECORDS. BUT PELLA IS NOT QUITE TRUE. P AND B ARE INTERCHANGEABLE IN GREEK. SO BELLA CITY IS CORRECT. OR BELLA TOWN. THE SAME NAME AS THE CAPITAL OF SERBIA. BEL GRAD (CITY) BEO GRAD, BELLI GRAD. BELL IS ANCIENT FOR WHITE. IT MEANS WHITE CITY. TODAY YOU HAVE 10 TOWNS IN THE BALKANS, AND POLLAND AND RUSSIA, WITH THE SAME MEANING. BEO GRAD, BELI GRAD, BEL GOROD, ETC. Greece is not the enemy of the Macedonians. But if you go to Greece,in Macedonia, you will see that population speaks slavic language. The cities and villiges have slavic , or macedonian meanings. Such as VODEN, LERIN, SOLUN, ETC. I WAS ASTONISH TO FOUND OUT THAT IN THE MAIN 2 STREETS IN THESSALONIKI IN GREECE, ALL THE SHOPS OWNERS WERE MACEDONIAN BY ORIGIN. I SPOKE MY LANGUAGE IN THEIR SHOPS. MACEDONIANS ARE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF NORDERN MODERN GREECE. But some of them had been colonised. The same situation as Slovenians in Saerska Austria. Or In Trst , Italy. This is the truth. This doesn't mean that Macedonians and Greeks should be enemies. We had to fight bigger fish NOW. AND THAT IS ISLAM, AND TURKEY. Boromir, from Skopje. Nick how about history let say from 100 years ago. Cut the bs with 2300 years old myths and half legends. Quoting: MKD 24405331 We fought the same enemy together in WW II. We live in region where starting from religion, mentality, food, folklore, you name it, all suppose to bring us together cause all those things are quite similar. And yet we are "enemies". Continue to listen to your politicians and yes it will be the time in near future when we will see each other trough sniper lenses. But listen the hearts of the people we could live in mutual understanding and peace. Hi there; Quoting: PLutarch 25589547 Nick the Geek Greetings from the Slavic people ;-) To the strongest! After being asked, by his generals on his deathbed, who was to succeed him. It has been speculated that his voice may have been indistinct and that he may have said "Krateros" (the name of one of his generals), but Krateros was not around, and the others may have chosen to hear "Kratistos" — the strongest. As quoted in The Mask of Jove: a history of Graeco-Roman civilization from the death of Alexander to the death of Constantine (1966) by Stringfellow Barr, p. 6 |
Nick the Greek User ID: 26453219 United Kingdom 12/18/2012 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greeks wouldn’t mind so much if the citizens of FYRoM claimed that they too also descend from Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians from antiquity...but branched-off from the main Hellenic core during the Slavic incursions of the 6th Century AD. Greeks wouldn't mind so much if the citizens of FYRoM claimed that they were Slavic-speaking Macedonians on the basis, their Hellenic forebears had to Slavicize [[by force][by free will]] during the settlement of the Slavic-tribes deep into Imperial Byzantine territories. Greeks wouldn't mind so much if FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs placed themselves on an equilibrium with Greeks and staked a claim to the legacy of Alexander the Great on the basis of their Hellenic-heritage. In reality, the Slavs of FYRoM have No Greek in them at all...they hate Greeks with a passion and hate Hellenism even more...on par with hating the West for creating the Greeks in the first place. FYRoM's ex-Yugoslavs are a peoples bred for purpose, Indoctrinated on Makedonism...a Slavist based Ideology developed during the Communist years to take Macedonian-territory away from the Greeks in order to place it into Slavic-hands. |
War Lord User ID: 19364503 United States 12/18/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were no Greeks at that time , neither Greek state existed. But were multitude of tribes some what we would call Greek and most not. But were Slavic , Celtic and who knows more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23058480 And Slavs did not come from North in 6th century.. What an BS is that it is mindbogglingly. There were no Slavs either at that time as naming Slavs is historically recent. Bunch of BS on this thread.. Not worth even one cent. We're mixing recent geopolitical terms with ancient historical figures. This is true.. the argument should state was he from the Hellenic state of Greece or descendant of the Northern Tribes. I did my research and can conclude he was most likely of Thracian heritage. I was also incorrect in stating he came from "nothing" , he inherited his father's empire and military which is quite the gift. Did you research this: [link to macedonia-evidence.org] Did you research this: [link to euroheritage.net] Did you research this: [link to www.flickr.com] You didn't did you Goran ? Instead, you researched this: [link to www.historyofmacedonia.org] FYRoM anti-Hellenic - anti-Western Propaganda site, where everything Hellenic and Western is Beliittled and Rubbished. FYRoM's Slavs have been raised on Turkocentric - Afrocentric - Slavist oriented revisionism and pseudo-history. FYRoM's Slavist orientated pseudo-historians took something good like the classics and Rubbished them...converted them into something Vulgar! The only pseudo-historian is you. Proud Greek but posting from England? Go back to your shithole country and crumble with the rest of the monuments. 1 Day... U will find what U R l00kin' for. |