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| Night Sky User ID: 975240 05/19/2010 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Night Sky Quoting: rkenI have watch the vids etc. I understand most of what your saying but i don't see how your tieing Rap into the UN and future false flags. There is a group we discussed ealier on in this thread that i much like Rap and has a the UN Charter and bill of rights included in their material. Which is kind of interesting. Could you please clarify the RAP UN connection as you see it. Thanks The only thing that I find that would tie into the U.N. would be the fact that very wealthy people are offering lots of backing. (it is my impression that the new world order is wanted by the wealthy) I could be wrong and some of the wealthy don't want to be part of the New World Order, Speaking with a Prince I believe TT had mentioned, the richest man in China (who is accused of unlawful acts?). Nothing concrete but enough for me to be very cautious. Like I said, I hope I am wrong, all the pieces just don't sit well with me. Why would RAP require DNA testing to get a driver's license? Sounds like Biometric Identification to me. |
| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Night Sky Quoting: Night Sky 975240I have watch the vids etc. I understand most of what your saying but i don't see how your tieing Rap into the UN and future false flags. There is a group we discussed ealier on in this thread that i much like Rap and has a the UN Charter and bill of rights included in their material. Which is kind of interesting. Could you please clarify the RAP UN connection as you see it. Thanks The only thing that I find that would tie into the U.N. would be the fact that very wealthy people are offering lots of backing. (it is my impression that the new world order is wanted by the wealthy) I could be wrong and some of the wealthy don't want to be part of the New World Order, Speaking with a Prince I believe TT had mentioned, the richest man in China (who is accused of unlawful acts?). Nothing concrete but enough for me to be very cautious. Like I said, I hope I am wrong, all the pieces just don't sit well with me. Why would RAP require DNA testing to get a driver's license? Sounds like Biometric Identification to me. Check out this web site and it might fill in some blanks. They refer to RAP by name and also quote the UN bill of rights. [link to www.global-settlement.org] More than a little spookey |
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| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the mentions of Rap I think is on page 56 and the Un near page 300 but there is an Table of contents for the UN material near the top |
| Night Sky User ID: 975240 05/19/2010 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all Grand Jurists Quoting: Anonymous Coward 590644Are you able to re-institute colonial scrip to help your respective States? We all know that TPTB (Private Bankers) print money and charge interest on it (but never print the interest). It is a debt based system that can only lead to slavery. Re-instate Colonial Scrip at no interest to the people all around the world! Use taxes to keep inflation in check and put money to work for the people instead of against them. (must be vigilant, TPTB will want to counterfeit the money to debase it and say "look fiat does not work!" but they know it works, it is why the world is in the state it is in). [link to www.youtube.com] A quick run through. [link to www.youtube.com] A more detailed history Free The World & Peace to all!!! :o) Nit picking here; a script is the writings for a play - the words and action. Scrip is what the colonials printed. GOOD IDEA; I AGREE! Study what the Channel Island of Guernsey did many decades ago. Thank-you for pointing out the spelling error. It is the only thing I can think of that would reverse what has happened to the world. But then again, are Humans ready for that kind of responsibility that goes with it? |
| Me User ID: 946979 05/19/2010 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is with a heavy heart that I share my point of view. Quoting: ShingenI do NOT think that Justaname, Shingen, and such are here to discourage anyone! I believe they are here to suppress any Truth that may be revealed. They seem to post a lot right after any truth is posted. oh please.. I'm not here to "suppress" anything. I simply refuse to get involved in circular arguments of semantics and supposition. I don't post very much in this thread anymore, simply because I don't have any relevant information about whether "T.R.A.P" is working, or if it's a scam. I have no clue either way. Why do you presume that people who don't agree with your "truth" have some nefarious intention of "suppressing" you? Especially on a fucking conspiracy site. Yes, but while addressing an opinion you totally suppressed(edited out) the ideas that were in my opinion worth a read and interesting to say the least. Having to do with the NWO agenda and RAP working towards the same goal. The G-20 is no laughing matter. The Copenhagen agreement was nothing more than the framework for the implementation and enforcement of a new global governance system. Many changes are taking place around the world and unfortunately I am not seeing positive changes. No one can know for sure if someone(you, me?) is a paid shill or working to make this site seem frivolous or just someone looking for answers and sharing ideas. However, when wading through the many pages of responses I see a lot of irrelevant bickering and insignificant commenting by a select few individuals with informative bits peppered sparingly throughout by others and sometimes the alleged shills themselves. But mostly it's just commentary and throughout this commentary condescension seems to be highly favored as the flavor of choice. In effect making this thread totally useless when trying to reference or research past links or tidbits near impossible. Maybe the hypothesis didn't apply to you specifically but it does apply to others. |
| Night Sky User ID: 975240 05/19/2010 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the mentions of Rap I think is on page 56 and the Un near page 300 but there is an Table of contents for the UN material near the top Quoting: rkenYes, it also speaks of Globals (the new world currency), and "Under Protest and Duress" which is a phrase that is commonly used by Commercial Redemptionist/Sovereign movements. If the Commercial Redemption is creating fraud or mischief in your contracts it would be scary. Although if you do it "just right" it will work? What about those who can't read laws if their life depended on it? If they do it wrong do they go to jail? I'm not a religious individual per se, but one thing comes to mind... something about false prophets. I may be wrong, but lawyers do make things very confusing. such as "A person includes a corporation" It does not say "A person includes without limitation a corporation" therefore a person is only a corporation. Makes sense now why Corporations can have the same rights as Persons. But you get those that say a "Natural Person" is different. A person is a mask (a fiction), if you put natural in front of it it becomes a mask of (wood or bark or something natural). It all seems to be a trick, and if the gov/lawyers/judges/police/etc are corrupt, do you really think they will care what you try? |
| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rken, you've got mail. Quoting: Truth Seeker 963711Cool story. To many of them like that for there not to be some truth to it. As for you I figured as much. A lot gets transmited through peoples writing that if your sensitive you can pick up on. lol Thanks for the story. |
| RobbRyder User ID: 939588 05/19/2010 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Against Government Corruption website into on Charlie Miller. “Case# 1:09-CV-00578-PLF Charlie Miller was originally in prison for some sort of scam (tax evasion type), and then was sent back into the pokey for Probation Violation. Now he is claiming that he was let out of prison because he proved in Court that Title 18 is not, nor ever was, law.” Third, I was NOT specific as to CM's incarceration...other than stating his 2nd incarceration was due to Probation Violation (which is TRUE), and even then I did not state WHAT he violated (it's in the docs - you would know that if you bothered to read them). NO, who ever wrote the above said: some sort of Scam,(tax evasion type). Not saying he didn't get popped for a Probation Violation.. but then again maybe his original conviction was bogus.. Fourth, comparing Ms. Jackson to CM is an absolute FARCE! She has made no claims that are UnTrue, whereas CM is making claims that are completely UnSupported. Never the less she sits in prison becasue of a SCAM (tax evasion type)... I don't belive she belongs there either.. Fifth, Charlie Miller allegedly met Sam Davis and TT in Seattle to discuss obtaining full control over everyone's DTC Accounts... All hear say.. as far as what was said and in what context.. if the converstaion was "we need to secure everyones DTC accounts so TBTB cannot drain them.. what would be wrong with this? Does that imply they are stealing them, or keeping them from being stolen.. Sixth, You can "read into the name" of AgainstGovernmentCorruption.org all you want - there is NO CLAIM ANYWHERE on the site as to making a distinction of only reporting coruption within the De facto Govt. I'm simply pointing out the name of the site, it should not require reading the fine print.. Seventh, If I were to write about Goldman Sachs on the same site would you have a problem with that? Or about the Federal Reserve? I doubt it, yet I am Postive that you are fully aware that the FedReserve is a PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION... Which is allowed to opperate becasue of Government Corruption.. and would be appropiate for the website. I really don't care about Tim Turner or others in regards to this post... just the fact that insinuating "SCAM (tax evasion type)" is a biased by-line |
| Shingen User ID: 899829 05/19/2010 12:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but while addressing an opinion you totally suppressed(edited out) the ideas that were in my opinion worth a read and interesting to say the least. Having to do with the NWO agenda and RAP working towards the same goal. Quoting: Me 946979I quote the specific parts of a post I'm replying to. I do not quote walls of text...and it does not constitute an act of "suppression". The G-20 is no laughing matter. The Copenhagen agreement was nothing more than the framework for the implementation and enforcement of a new global governance system. Many changes are taking place around the world and unfortunately I am not seeing positive changes. Quoting: Me 946979I think it's all just another attempt by the Statist to prop up their failing ideology. Statism is not a sustainable form of government. It relies solely on the implied and implicit use of force in order to maintain and enforce it's mandates. As seen throughout recorded history, one can not create a free society through force-of-arms. No one can know for sure if someone(you, me?) is a paid shill or working to make this site seem frivolous or just someone looking for answers and sharing ideas. However, when wading through the many pages of responses I see a lot of irrelevant bickering and insignificant commenting by a select few individuals with informative bits peppered sparingly throughout by others and sometimes the alleged shills themselves. eh... on this site.. we all get what we play for. One can not cry for freedom and then deny it to someone else. That is the height of hypocrisy. In effect making this thread totally useless when trying to reference or research past links or tidbits near impossible. Maybe the hypothesis didn't apply to you specifically but it does apply to others. Quoting: Me 946979Researching this thread was made a lot more difficult since they changed the back-link structure. I wished they would just go back to the old back-link system. "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey Since government is force, every bill and law passed is an act of violence. - Me "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
| Habit4ming User ID: 941380 05/19/2010 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I had caught this comment at American Grand jury earlier. Anyway a poster stated that the Minutemen were marching today on the White House Lawn (Obama/Calderon meeting)and that Obama looked disgusted. What makes it more interesting is that I did a quick search and finally found a live broadcast (unfortunately, it only lasted less than a minute--Fox news)...I did notice that both Old Glory and Mexican flags were being flown--2 of each--Old Glory had NO GOLD FRINGE!! Has anyone RECENTLY seen any Old Glory flags without gold fringe??? I haven't... Just passing on an interesting observation, which may or may not mean anything... |
| Truth Seeker User ID: 963711 05/19/2010 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rken, you've got mail. Quoting: rkenCool story. To many of them like that for there not to be some truth to it. As for you I figured as much. A lot gets transmited through peoples writing that if your sensitive you can pick up on. lol Thanks for the story. Thanks. I was pretty sure you knew. LOL. |
| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, it also speaks of Globals (the new world currency), and "Under Protest and Duress" which is a phrase that is commonly used by Commercial Redemptionist/Sovereign movements. If the Commercial Redemption is creating fraud or mischief in your contracts it would be scary. Although if you do it "just right" it will work? What about those who can't read laws if their life depended on it? If they do it wrong do they go to jail? I'm not a religious individual per se, but one thing comes to mind... something about false prophets. Quoting: Night Sky 975240I may be wrong, but lawyers do make things very confusing. such as "A person includes a corporation" It does not say "A person includes without limitation a corporation" therefore a person is only a corporation. Makes sense now why Corporations can have the same rights as Persons. But you get those that say a "Natural Person" is different. A person is a mask (a fiction), if you put natural in front of it it becomes a mask of (wood or bark or something natural). It all seems to be a trick, and if the gov/lawyers/judges/police/etc are corrupt, do you really think they will care what you try? maybe I should clarify the scary part is putting soveriegns together with the UN in a document all about retaining ans understanding our rights. I agree with you about some not being able to understand the legaleze. So as you say it would not seem right for them to go to jail while other could remain unaffected. The other thing I find facinating, and Obama was pissed about is that the supreme court gave corporations the same right as people under the constitution. So in essence gave back our right taken away by being a corporation. Strange way of going about getting our rights back. lol |
| RobbRyder User ID: 939588 05/19/2010 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out this web site and it might fill in some blanks. They refer to RAP by name and also quote the UN bill of rights. [link to www.global-settlement.org] More than a little spookey Quoting: rkenI really think that the above website information is supporting documentation for someone trying to start a trading platform based on gold. Like they are saying "here are all the reasons to trade in gold"... They have gathered all sorts of info, available on the internet, from RAP to Rod Class's Court cases, along with a history of how we got to where we are.. They are encouraging people to stop trading in Fiat money, and trade in gold.. and ounce of gold is an ounce of gold not matter who mints it.. |
| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got another interesting email from my email address being posted on this thread. I will email you the jist of it after checking and making sure its ok. |
| Night Sky User ID: 975240 05/19/2010 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get me wrong, the idea of "if your government is corrupt then it is the duty of its people to change it" is a noble one. Part of the reason RAP appealed to most (if not all) of us, but when things start looking like TPTB are subverting or taking over it, I have to speak up. Much like the worldfreemansociety. Great ideas but are they corruptible? Vigilance is the key I would think and questions should always be taken seriously (no such thing as a dumb question IMHO). Do I think Lawyers have all the power? Possibly. How bout the bankers? Definitely if they print the money and charge interest for it. If the people printed the money (at no interest) who would the government/lawyers/judges/police/etc be more apt to work for? Right now it seems the private bankers have the upper hand. Can that change? |
| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out this web site and it might fill in some blanks. They refer to RAP by name and also quote the UN bill of rights. [link to www.global-settlement.org] More than a little spooky Quoting: RobbRyder 939588I really think that the above website information is supporting documentation for someone trying to start a trading platform based on gold. Like they are saying "here are all the reasons to trade in gold"... They have gathered all sorts of info, available on the internet, from RAP to Rod Class's Court cases, along with a history of how we got to where we are.. They are encouraging people to stop trading in Fiat money, and trade in gold.. and ounce of gold is an ounce of gold not matter who mints it.. Thanks for clarification Robbie. It is an interesting document and one I learned a lot from. The UN part was just a little disconcerting. Call me paranoid. lolol |
| Reigne User ID: 960944 05/19/2010 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Against Government Corruption website into on Charlie Miller. Quoting: RobbRyder 939588“Case# 1:09-CV-00578-PLF Charlie Miller was originally in prison for some sort of scam (tax evasion type), and then was sent back into the pokey for Probation Violation. Now he is claiming that he was let out of prison because he proved in Court that Title 18 is not, nor ever was, law.” Third, I was NOT specific as to CM's incarceration...other than stating his 2nd incarceration was due to Probation Violation (which is TRUE), and even then I did not state WHAT he violated (it's in the docs - you would know that if you bothered to read them). NO, who ever wrote the above said: some sort of Scam,(tax evasion type). Not saying he didn't get popped for a Probation Violation.. but then again maybe his original conviction was bogus.. For the life of me I cannot comprehend what you are saying. Fourth, comparing Ms. Jackson to CM is an absolute FARCE! She has made no claims that are UnTrue, whereas CM is making claims that are completely UnSupported. Never the less she sits in prison becasue of a SCAM (tax evasion type)... I don't belive she belongs there either.. "Never the less..." Are you admitting the comparison you made is an absolute FARCE? 1. I have not found any evidence of Ms. Jackson lying or making untrue claims. 2. I have given the evidence which Proves CM is not stating actual Facts regarding his cases - so Why would I believe anything he states about his original incarceration? Why should anyone for that matter? Fifth, Charlie Miller allegedly met Sam Davis and TT in Seattle to discuss obtaining full control over everyone's DTC Accounts... All hear say.. as far as what was said and in what context.. if the converstaion was "we need to secure everyones DTC accounts so TBTB cannot drain them.. what would be wrong with this? Does that imply they are stealing them, or keeping them from being stolen.. Did you read what I wrote...I said Allegedly, and since NOBODY has come forth to state otherwise, I can only believe it is true. (Silence is Acquiescence). And if it's 'hearsay,' how the heck did YOU come up with 'if the conversation was...'Are you now spreading hearsay? Sixth, You can "read into the name" of AgainstGovernmentCorruption.org all you want - there is NO CLAIM ANYWHERE on the site as to making a distinction of only reporting coruption within the De facto Govt. I'm simply pointing out the name of the site, it should not require reading the fine print.. There is no fine print to concern yourself with on my site. It's all there for anyone and everyone to read. At the bottom, on the Mission Statement, and on the Membership Agreement form. I give full disclosure. It is YOUR problem if you choose to interpret what does not need interpretting. Seventh, If I were to write about Goldman Sachs on the same site would you have a problem with that? Or about the Federal Reserve? I doubt it, yet I am Postive that you are fully aware that the FedReserve is a PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION... Which is allowed to opperate becasue of Government Corruption.. and would be appropiate for the website. Okay, so you first complain about my site reporting on something that doesn't 'fit' (in Your Opinion) with the Name of the site...and now writing about Companies that have nothing to do with Govt is ok (in Your Opinion). I really don't care about Tim Turner or others in regards to this post... just the fact that insinuating "SCAM (tax evasion type)" is a biased by-line And I really do not care what you think My site should/should not have on it...the FACT that you haven't even bothered to read All That Is Made Available shows only your biased opinion. And why did you not include the first and second point I had made? The cause has been identified - A solution has been offered! www.WeRoar.ws |
| Night Sky User ID: 975240 05/19/2010 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I had caught this comment at American Grand jury earlier. Anyway a poster stated that the Minutemen were marching today on the White House Lawn (Obama/Calderon meeting)and that Obama looked disgusted. What makes it more interesting is that I did a quick search and finally found a live broadcast (unfortunately, it only lasted less than a minute--Fox news)...I did notice that both Old Glory and Mexican flags were being flown--2 of each--Old Glory had NO GOLD FRINGE!! Has anyone RECENTLY seen any Old Glory flags without gold fringe??? I haven't... Quoting: Habit4mingJust passing on an interesting observation, which may or may not mean anything... Hi Habit4ming, is there a link available? As for Gold back currency, it works as long as you have the gold (I believe we the people have none). They that have the gold make the rules? Tally Sticks, Colonial Scrip, (German treasury certificates backed by labour helped Germany become a world power). All based on things not of gold. If those who have the gold can manipulate the markets, they would be able to manipulate the value of the money that it backs. We would be in the same boat. That is why, I believe, Benjamin Franklin is the only one smiling on U.S. Currency. |
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| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get me wrong, the idea of "if your government is corrupt then it is the duty of its people to change it" is a noble one. Part of the reason RAP appealed to most (if not all) of us, but when things start looking like TPTB are subverting or taking over it, I have to speak up. Much like the worldfreemansociety. Great ideas but are they corruptible? Quoting: Night Sky 975240Vigilance is the key I would think and questions should always be taken seriously (no such thing as a dumb question IMHO). Do I think Lawyers have all the power? Possibly. How bout the bankers? Definitely if they print the money and charge interest for it. If the people printed the money (at no interest) who would the government/lawyers/judges/police/etc be more apt to work for? Right now it seems the private bankers have the upper hand. Can that change? It seems they are trying to collapse the monitary system and then when things are grim come in with a new system to save the day. It could backfire if an alternative system was also in place so that we had another choice. might be a good time to start printing money. lol There is actually a county here in Thailand that is doing just that printing there own money and its use is growing ang the money is being accepted outside of the county. In the US they would probably put you in jail. lol |
| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got another interesting email from my email address being posted on this thread. I will email you the jist of it after checking and making sure its ok. Quoting: Truth Seeker 963711Hmmm... Interesting. I sent an email requesting permission. Should have answer back soon. |
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| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got another interesting email from my email address being posted on this thread. I will email you the jist of it after checking and making sure its ok. Quoting: rkenHmmm... Interesting. I sent an email requesting permission. Should have answer back soon. Michale paul you have mail |
| Night Sky User ID: 975240 05/19/2010 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems they are trying to collapse the monitary system and then when things are grim come in with a new system to save the day. It could backfire if an alternative system was also in place so that we had another choice. might be a good time to start printing money. lol Quoting: rkenThere is actually a county here in Thailand that is doing just that printing there own money and its use is growing ang the money is being accepted outside of the county. In the US they would probably put you in jail. lol Could that be what TPTB are trying to cover up in Thailand? I know the MSM would never mention anything like that on the news. |
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| rken User ID: 975036 05/19/2010 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we going to get an announcement every time someone sends mail now? Quoting: JustanameWhats the matter feeling left out. We would share with you to but your such a nasty little imp. lol |
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| Shingen User ID: 899829 05/19/2010 01:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we going to get an announcement every time someone sends mail now? Quoting: Justaname1000 pages or bust! "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey Since government is force, every bill and law passed is an act of violence. - Me "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |