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Anonymous Coward User ID: 933932 United Kingdom 04/04/2010 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fred Zinkann has made a pattern coin out of an alloy containing 5% Ni, 3% Fe with smaller quantities of copper and cobalt. The dies reputedly broke after three coins had been made. [link to www.ukcoinpics.co.uk] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 933932 United Kingdom 04/04/2010 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those assayer machines seem to only do surface analysis, btw, so they would be worthless revealing these forgeries since they are pure gold plated...did they say 1/8-inch thick? 1/16th? Quoting: Gannontesting the electrical conductivity of the bars is an easy, non-destructive solution. as is testing the speed of sound through the bars via ultrasonic equipment. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 924816 United States 04/04/2010 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Video of the gold plated bars being cut open or it didn't happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 933883simply searching youtube for gold tungsten produces this: not the toughest research job of the day, eh? Nice video. I like how they admit they fired their employee and then he ended up being right. Assholes. |
Force Quit User ID: 881649 Germany 04/04/2010 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PIN THIS . "Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace." Bill Hicks (1961-1994) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 934378 Australia 04/04/2010 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About a year ago I was talking with a investment manager from a large and well known company. And he was adamant that there was no gold at Fort Knox. The guy was far from being a fruitcake although I was skeptical at the time. Now I wonder. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875706The dollar is based on faith that there is gold in Fort Knox; if it has no gold or only fake bars, What do you think would happen to the dollar? When the fraud is known, the dollar would become totally worthless over night and your government would have complete control of you. You can’t buy anything if you have no money! Perhaps it’s time to trade those paper dollars into things of value, while you still can. (FOOD, CLOTHING, GOLD and SILVER) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 930011 Spain 04/04/2010 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This was said by the Zetas around two years ago. They said that all the gold in Forth Knox was fake. The real gold was to the pockets of the Bush family and Company. Haiti earthquake was created to be able to move the gold there to another location. Just wait. It is not finished business. There are many people that know and will talk soon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 934447 United States 04/04/2010 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like a whole lot of people don't know what gold and silver coins they are holding! Mass Counterfeiting of American coins February 27, 2009 by Brian Harring [email protected] With the collapsing American economy, many Americans are rushing to invest in gold; either coins or bar, and also silver. One of the most popular forms of this investment are American coins. Where there is a need, there is always someone to fill it and in this case, the filling consists of the massive counterfeiting of gold coins, silver coins, and even Swiss gold bars in China. Initially, it appeared they were only faking Morgan dollars, but then it turned out they were also making $20 Liberty, and Indian Head gold $2.50, $5, and $10 coins, of all dates. Evidently, this is extremely easy with today's computer-and-laser-die-cutting technology, and the fakes are being die-struck in vast quantities, not cast, and visually at least, are superb copies. The good news is that these fakes are readily detectable with a 0.01 - gram scale, as the Chinese in their greed are using lower carats of gold and lower grades of silver than the genuine coins, to maximize profit, and thus, in most cases, the fake coins and bars are lighter than the real ones. In a few cases, the silver coins of high numismatic interest are actually OVER weight - it appears that the supply of accurate planchet stock is a major difficulty for the forgers. [link to www.tbrnews.org] . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 934447 United States 04/04/2010 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the internet book: If You Care to Know the Truth, author Eric Rainbolt <snippets> At the end of WW II, Fort Knox contained over 700 million ounces of the gold, an incredible 70% of all gold in the world. How much remains? Nobody in government admits knowing. Despite the fact that federal law requires an annual physical audit of Fort Knox gold, the treasury has consistently refused to conduct one. What is the government so afraid of? Here is the answer: When president Ronald Regan took office in 1981, his conservative friends urged him to study the feasibility of returning to a gold standard as the only way to curb government spending. It sounded like a reasonable alternative, so president Reagan appointed a group of men, called the Gold Commission, to study the situation and report back to congress. What Reagan's gold commission reported back to congress in 1982 was the following shocking revelation concerning gold. The US treasury owned no gold at all! All the gold that was left in Fort Knox was now owned by the Federal Reserve, a group of private bankers, AS COLLATERAL AGAINST THE NATIONAL DEBT. The truth of the matter is, that never before, has so much money has been stolen from the hands of the general public and put into the hands of a small group of private investors in the Federal Reserve, the money changers. . |
ANNONYMOUS User ID: 825313 United States 04/04/2010 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of conjecture on this thread with few undisputable facts. SOooooo here is one overpowering fact. The US Mint produces ALL legal coinage for the US. For about 10 years now the Mint has aggressively acted as a fund raiser for the Gov as any of you who are aware know. Different products sold at a profit. One of these products is the Gold Eagle Proof sets. Up until 2007 these were pretty slow sellers due to the priceiness of the product. The premium on an ounce was 15 to 25%. Starting in 2008 the Mint has sold out of this product in about a MONTHS TIME. Since these products usually come out in April or May one would think that the Mint could secure more GOLD BLANKS to sell as much as possible. That does NOT seem to be the case. The latest story is that the Mint is required to make $300 mil in 1 oz bullion non proof coins for trade and commerce. These coins are sold to private coin companies for sale to the general public at a much reduced profit and these companies usually sell them to collectors etc. One would think that IF REAL GOLD WAS AS READILY AVAILABLE as its detractors think the Mint would be buying up more and more each year to produce the high profit items. But NO when the original run is purchased that's it. This leads me to conclude that perhaps the REAL SUPPLY OF GOLD for whatever reason is infintely less than anybody suspects. This has been going on for the past two years now and this year will not be any different if appearances are correct. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 933402 United States 04/04/2010 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have two question. If there is np gold in Fort Knox and the china and germany have fake gold, then where is the real gold? Why is no one being investigated and charged? If I steal 10 dollars then I get swift punishment. You steal millions and billions and even trillions then no one notices a thing. . |
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ANNONYMOUS User ID: 825313 United States 04/04/2010 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In another thread on p1 concerning gold manipulation it appears that the EU Central Banks which by agreement can sell 5000 tons of gold a year have been selling substantially less then that figure since 1999. In addition apparently they stopped selling gold by 2008. Very interesting. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 934566 Australia 04/05/2010 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This fuckers' got legs. Quoting: TRM 917953Worth the time of study if you've got it. It's not about how much gold is worth..... it's about what the Dollar isn't worth! . The Nightmare German Inflation from a NEWS & VIEWS SPECIAL REPORT "The ones who fared best were the small minority who had the foresight to exchange marks into foreign money or gold very early, before new laws made this difficult and before the mark lost too much value." [link to www.usagold.com] |