How can Jesus possibly be God , be the Messiah when...........................

"I know the blasphemy of them which says they are jews,and are not,but are the synagogue of Satan"-revelation 2:9

"behold,I will make them of the synagogue of satan,which says they are jews and are not,but lie,I will make them worship before thy feet-revelation 3:9

"I know the blasphemy of them which says they are jews,and are not,but are the synagogue of Satan"-revelation 2:9

"behold,I will make them of the synagogue of satan,which says they are jews and are not,but lie,I will make them worship before thy feet-revelation 3:9



You have got to do better than slander all the Jews


If you want the Highest TRUTH

as



“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

You need a Lexicon

17th century translations, by especially uninspired KJV type translators do not help to give a clear meaning

"I know the blasphemy of them which says they are jews,and are not,but are the synagogue of Satan"-revelation 2:9

"behold,I will make them of the synagogue of satan,which says they are jews and are not,but lie,I will make them worship before thy feet-revelation 3:9



You have got to do better than slander all the Jews


If you want the Highest TRUTH

as



“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)



I see if the bible disagrees with you then its "jew slander" but if you agree with it then its the "highest truth", your a friken hypocrite.

"I know the blasphemy of them which says they are jews,and are not,but are the synagogue of Satan"-revelation 2:9

"behold,I will make them of the synagogue of satan,which says they are jews and are not,but lie,I will make them worship before thy feet-revelation 3:9



You have got to do better than slander all the Jews


If you want the Highest TRUTH

as



“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)



I see if the bible disagrees with you then its "jew slander" but if you agree with it then its the "highest truth", your a friken hypocrite.



nothing hypicritical

Jesus was talking about one group of Jews

you slander them all (I think)

John says




“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

you should then learn from them

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs

"I know the blasphemy of them which says they are jews,and are not,but are the synagogue of Satan"-revelation 2:9

"behold,I will make them of the synagogue of satan,which says they are jews and are not,but lie,I will make them worship before thy feet-revelation 3:9



You have got to do better than slander all the Jews


If you want the Highest TRUTH

as



“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)



I see if the bible disagrees with you then its "jew slander" but if you agree with it then its the "highest truth", your a friken hypocrite.



nothing hypicritical

Jesus was talking about one group of Jews

you slander them all (I think)

John says




“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

you should then learn from them



he was talking about you, and stop using the word slander, when its straight out of the bible, you just don't like what it says. Jesus talked about hypocrites like you.

If Jesus is the Messiah how do you reconcile the “Christian vision”

With these words of God :

Don’t ignore God’s words :


"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

And


Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?

Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say




The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" for all days" know what that means

you have been deceived

God does not lie

God's words are pretty important

Jesus is not God…………………………..

Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' " (JOHN 20:17)
Jesus is not God…………………………..
And know


“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

"The Jews"

Don’t ignore God’s words :

"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

God does not lie

or this

"And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."
(Isaih 2)

You will come to those who follow the " God of Jacob" (the Jews) . They will teach you "his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah"

thats right the Torah (law) which you reject and exchanged for you jesus idol

it will be the Jews who will set you straight

You may merit to come to see that God is God alone

"Unto you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
"Deuteronomy 4:35,39 "

Jesus is not what you thought at all

again

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)





God Bless!!!



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs



My belief is in Gods will..not the bible for starters....
but you need to check your context - the word " of" as in "salvation is of" the Jews in this context means - from/came from/ comes out of : it is being used to indicate derivation, origin, or source of. JESUS came 'out of' the Jewish community.

Duh.

In the bible the word 'of' is also used to indicate inclusion in a number, class, or whole as if 'of' the Jews..aka INCLUDES the Jews. Its also used to indicate possession, connection, or association.

Salvation is not a gentile concept..Jesus said repeatedly that came for the lost sheep of Israel...and didnt come to build a religion or to save Christians..read Jonah for clarification...he came so the *whole world* might be saved through HIM....including the Jews.

You need a Lexicon

17th century translations, by especially uninspired KJV type translators do not help to give a clear meaning



I can translate it my self I am fluent in Biblical Hebrew

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs



My belief is in Gods will..not the bible for starters....
but you need to check your context - the word " of" as in "salvation is of" the Jews in this context means - from/came from/ comes out of : it is being used to indicate derivation, origin, or source of. JESUS came 'out of' the Jewish community.

Duh.

In the bible the word 'of' is also used to indicate inclusion in a number, class, or whole as if 'of' the Jews..aka INCLUDES the Jews. Its also used to indicate possession, connection, or association.

Salvation is not a gentile concept..Jesus said repeatedly that came for the lost sheep of Israel...and didnt come to build a religion or to save Christians..read Jonah for clarification...he came so the *whole world* might be saved through HIM....including the Jews.



john was telling early followers of Jesus they did not understand


“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

John was a Jew
so he was teaching

salvation is of the Jews

this is a side point what about

Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?

Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say




The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" for all days" know what that means

If Jesus is the Messiah how do you reconcile the “Christian vision”

With these words of God :

Don’t ignore God’s words :


"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

And


Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?

Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say




The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" for all days" know what that means

you have been deceived

God does not lie

God's words are pretty important

Jesus is not God…………………………..

Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' " (JOHN 20:17)
Jesus is not God…………………………..
And know


“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

"The Jews"

Don’t ignore God’s words :

"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

God does not lie

or this

"And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."
(Isaih 2)

You will come to those who follow the " God of Jacob" (the Jews) . They will teach you "his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah"

thats right the Torah (law) which you reject and exchanged for you jesus idol

it will be the Jews who will set you straight

You may merit to come to see that God is God alone

"Unto you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
"Deuteronomy 4:35,39 "

Jesus is not what you thought at all

again

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)





God Bless!!!



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs



I've already responded in length to your EXACT SAME QUERY here several days ago and you plainly ignored it.

Why bring up the same exact question when you failed to answer on the biblical SCRIPTURE that I showed you in relations to Jesus Christ and explained to you verse for verse that you have shown here?

Read the WHOLE BOOK OF ACTS in The Bible and see for yourself what Paul says concerning the testimony of Jesus Christ comparing the Torah.

The building of the 3rd Temple is actually a testimony AGAINST YOU JEWS, because God knows you rejected His Son that He sent to save you and therefore you believe you need to still keep doing blood sacrifices to cleanse your sin.

But you Jews crucified Him and He died and yet after 3 days He rose from the dead (which we celebrate today as Easter Sunday). HE, messiah, IS the final and last sacrificial lamb. HE is the fulfillment of the Law.

Therefore, there is really no "need" for sacrifices any more for Jesus Christ IS the final sacrifice, if you believe in Him. Because it is by FAITH that you are given eternal life, not by your performance under the Law, for the Law can only condemn you by exposing you of your sin.

Jesus Christ who IS the messiah, when He comes back will rule for 1000 years and cleanse the Temple that the Anti-Christ will make unclean by his abominable act.

And Jesus Christ will rule from His throne with power and justice and mercy, within the Temple as THE true High Priest AND God, which reconciles ALL the scripture you just made query above.

God Bless!!!

If Jesus is the Messiah how do you reconcile the “Christian vision”

With these words of God :

Don’t ignore God’s words :


"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

And


Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?

Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say




The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" for all days" know what that means

you have been deceived

God does not lie

God's words are pretty important

Jesus is not God…………………………..

Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' " (JOHN 20:17)
Jesus is not God…………………………..
And know


“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

"The Jews"

Don’t ignore God’s words :

"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

God does not lie

or this

"And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."
(Isaih 2)

You will come to those who follow the " God of Jacob" (the Jews) . They will teach you "his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah"

thats right the Torah (law) which you reject and exchanged for you jesus idol

it will be the Jews who will set you straight

You may merit to come to see that God is God alone

"Unto you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
"Deuteronomy 4:35,39 "

Jesus is not what you thought at all

again

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)





God Bless!!!



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs



I've already responded in length to your EXACT SAME QUERY here several days ago and you plainly ignored it.

Why bring up the same exact question when you failed to answer on the biblical SCRIPTURE that I showed you in relations to Jesus Christ and explained to you verse for verse that you have shown here?

Read the WHOLE BOOK OF ACTS in The Bible and see for yourself what Paul says concerning the testimony of Jesus Christ comparing the Torah.

The building of the 3rd Temple is actually a testimony AGAINST YOU JEWS, because God knows you rejected His Son that He sent to save you and therefore you believe you need to still keep doing blood sacrifices to cleanse your sin.

But you Jews crucified Him and He died and yet after 3 days He rose from the dead (which we celebrate today as Easter Sunday). HE, messiah, IS the final and last sacrificial lamb. HE is the fulfillment of the Law.

Therefore, there is really no "need" for sacrifices any more for Jesus Christ IS the final sacrifice, if you believe in Him. Because it is by FAITH that you are given eternal life, not by your performance under the Law, for the Law can only condemn you by exposing you of your sin.

Jesus Christ who IS the messiah, when He comes back will rule for 1000 years and cleanse the Temple that the Anti-Christ will make unclean by his abominable act.

And Jesus Christ will rule from His throne with power and justice and mercy, within the Temple as THE true High Priest AND God, which reconciles ALL the scripture you just made query above.

God Bless!!!



Nonsense

you have not answered anything but spit out dogma


Don’t ignore God’s words :


"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

also

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)


no Jesus here

It says David, Cohen (Descendant of Aaron) and Levi





"And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."
(Isaih 2)

You will come to those who follow the " God of Jacob" (the Jews) . They will teach you "his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah"

thats right the Torah (law) which you reject and exchanged for you jesus idol

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs



My belief is in Gods will..not the bible for starters....
but you need to check your context - the word " of" as in "salvation is of" the Jews in this context means - from/came from/ comes out of : it is being used to indicate derivation, origin, or source of. JESUS came 'out of' the Jewish community.

Duh.

In the bible the word 'of' is also used to indicate inclusion in a number, class, or whole as if 'of' the Jews..aka INCLUDES the Jews. Its also used to indicate possession, connection, or association.

Salvation is not a gentile concept..Jesus said repeatedly that came for the lost sheep of Israel...and didnt come to build a religion or to save Christians..read Jonah for clarification...he came so the *whole world* might be saved through HIM....including the Jews.



john was telling early followers of Jesus they did not understand


“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

John was a Jew
so he was teaching

salvation is of the Jews

this is a side point what about

Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?

Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say




The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" for all days" know what that means



YOU are getting the purpose of the Temple confused with the the purpose of the sacrifices which does not really require a temple in the first place.

The Temple came about because DAVID desired to create a house for God by Faith. But you see God doesn't really dwell in any man-made structure.


wrong

“But when you go over the Jordan, and live in the land which the Lord your God gives you to inherit, and when he gives you rest from all your enemies around, so that you live in safety;
11. Then there shall be a place which the Lord your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; there shall you bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which you vow to the Lord;” (Deut 12)

It is built by Divine command

But it was Solomon who was allowed to create the Temple for God. The Temple was to show that God had a permanent and symbolic dwelling with Israel in Jerusalem, by the existance of His temple on the Temple Mount.

The Temple was not built for the purpose of sacrificial, blood offerings.

So I'm not sure why you are equating both as being dependent on the other.

The Temple can exist WITHOUT the blood sacrifices because Jesus IS the final sacrifice and HE will dwell in the Temple.

If Jesus is the Messiah how do you reconcile the “Christian vision”

With these words of God :

Don’t ignore God’s words :


"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

And


Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?

Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say




The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" for all days" know what that means

you have been deceived

God does not lie

God's words are pretty important

Jesus is not God…………………………..

Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' " (JOHN 20:17)
Jesus is not God…………………………..
And know


“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

"The Jews"

Don’t ignore God’s words :

"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

God does not lie

or this

"And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."
(Isaih 2)

You will come to those who follow the " God of Jacob" (the Jews) . They will teach you "his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah"

thats right the Torah (law) which you reject and exchanged for you jesus idol

it will be the Jews who will set you straight

You may merit to come to see that God is God alone

"Unto you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
"Deuteronomy 4:35,39 "

Jesus is not what you thought at all

again

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)





God Bless!!!



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs



I've already responded in length to your EXACT SAME QUERY here several days ago and you plainly ignored it.

Why bring up the same exact question when you failed to answer on the biblical SCRIPTURE that I showed you in relations to Jesus Christ and explained to you verse for verse that you have shown here?

Read the WHOLE BOOK OF ACTS in The Bible and see for yourself what Paul says concerning the testimony of Jesus Christ comparing the Torah.

The building of the 3rd Temple is actually a testimony AGAINST YOU JEWS, because God knows you rejected His Son that He sent to save you and therefore you believe you need to still keep doing blood sacrifices to cleanse your sin.

But you Jews crucified Him and He died and yet after 3 days He rose from the dead (which we celebrate today as Easter Sunday). HE, messiah, IS the final and last sacrificial lamb. HE is the fulfillment of the Law.

Therefore, there is really no "need" for sacrifices any more for Jesus Christ IS the final sacrifice, if you believe in Him. Because it is by FAITH that you are given eternal life, not by your performance under the Law, for the Law can only condemn you by exposing you of your sin.

Jesus Christ who IS the messiah, when He comes back will rule for 1000 years and cleanse the Temple that the Anti-Christ will make unclean by his abominable act.

And Jesus Christ will rule from His throne with power and justice and mercy, within the Temple as THE true High Priest AND God, which reconciles ALL the scripture you just made query above.

God Bless!!!



Nonsense

you have not answered anything but spit out dogma


Don’t ignore God’s words :


"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

also

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)


no Jesus here

It says David, Cohen (Descendant of Aaron) and Levi





"And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."
(Isaih 2)

You will come to those who follow the " God of Jacob" (the Jews) . They will teach you "his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah"

thats right the Torah (law) which you reject and exchanged for you jesus idol



I HAVE answered you question and it is not "dogma". It is not my fault that you are blind and cannot see past the indoctrined teaching of your law that you Jews are held by.

It is by FAITH that you attain Salvation not by the Law. Abraham came to FAITH in God first and THAT was credited to Him as being righteousness and that is why God chose Him and to bring forth a people form Him that He would call His own.

But before Abraham was redeemed by his FAITH, remember well that Abraham was also a gentile that was uncircumcized and after God redeemed him, God asked him to take the circumcision as a mark to separate him out PHYSICALLY from the others.

but the true separation of him and the world was his FAITH that redeemed him. Remember also that Abraham did not have the "law" either before He was redeemed by God by his FAITH.

Stop being blind and look at your actual scriptures and SEE the TRUTH of God.

If you have not read the New Testament, that your fellow brother JEWS wrote, than you should sit yourself down and read it at least ONCE before you mock it and call down unholy fire upon it as being blasphemous, for you only take away salvation from yourselves by not seeing ALL THE WORD of the Lord that has come.

God Bless!!!

“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)


What do you have to say on these verses
I have to go for a while will be back

Like to hear what you think on these verses

Peace

God is all merciful and hears those who call upon him in truth

“The Lord is near to all those who call upon him, to all who call upon him in truth.”
(psalm 145)



It gets you no where ignoring parts of the True Bible that stand against you beliefs



My belief is in Gods will..not the bible for starters....
but you need to check your context - the word " of" as in "salvation is of" the Jews in this context means - from/came from/ comes out of : it is being used to indicate derivation, origin, or source of. JESUS came 'out of' the Jewish community.

Duh.

In the bible the word 'of' is also used to indicate inclusion in a number, class, or whole as if 'of' the Jews..aka INCLUDES the Jews. Its also used to indicate possession, connection, or association.

Salvation is not a gentile concept..Jesus said repeatedly that came for the lost sheep of Israel...and didnt come to build a religion or to save Christians..read Jonah for clarification...he came so the *whole world* might be saved through HIM....including the Jews.



john was telling early followers of Jesus they did not understand


“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

John was a Jew
so he was teaching

salvation is of the Jews

this is a side point what about

Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?

Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say




The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

" for all days" know what that means



YOU are getting the purpose of the Temple confused with the the purpose of the sacrifices which does not really require a temple in the first place.

The Temple came about because DAVID desired to create a house for God by Faith. But you see God doesn't really dwell in any man-made structure.


wrong

“But when you go over the Jordan, and live in the land which the Lord your God gives you to inherit, and when he gives you rest from all your enemies around, so that you live in safety;
11. Then there shall be a place which the Lord your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; there shall you bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which you vow to the Lord;” (Deut 12)

It is built by Divine command

But it was Solomon who was allowed to create the Temple for God. The Temple was to show that God had a permanent and symbolic dwelling with Israel in Jerusalem, by the existance of His temple on the Temple Mount.

The Temple was not built for the purpose of sacrificial, blood offerings.

So I'm not sure why you are equating both as being dependent on the other.

The Temple can exist WITHOUT the blood sacrifices because Jesus IS the final sacrifice and HE will dwell in the Temple.



Wrong

do not ignore the word of God
The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

Burn offerings are sacrifices

you have not addressed the verses

you are only preaching Jc

if you can

address the verses



"Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men from the nations of every language, shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you."

(Zacharia 8)

you of the nations that survive will come to the Jews

thats what the verse is speaking of

God does not lie

Was Jesus really the “perfect” and “last” sacrifice ?
Why did God have the prophet Jeremiah say
The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

You have got to do better than slander all the Jews


If you want the Highest TRUTH

as



“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)