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We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?

 
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We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
we didn't evolve it, we activated it; and collective consciousness is just a theory...
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?
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Exactly - that is exactly why the 'everything is one' people are completely wrong about everything!
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?


Exactly - that is exactly why the 'everything is one' people are completely wrong about everything!
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Like I want to absorb all the disgusting thoughts of pedophiles. Collective consciousness - no thanks.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
Well whether you like it or not, we are one. But who said we would be going towards collective consciousness/group mind again?

The next step is activating the higher centres of our minds, which may include the ability to communicate telepathically, but more importantly the connection back into the aether/akashic/grid/natures internet etc..

I think we will retain our individuality, but gain access to the silent areas of our brain.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?
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You should feel free to be who you are...there's nothing wrong with that.

hf
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
Do not try to put your ego away. Don't try to put it down.

It is a natural process. In natural processes, the harder

you try to push something away, the harder it is to push

away. You have to recognize it and let the emotions that it

brings forth go through you without dwelling on it. This is

all simplicity. Wisdom is recognizing the thought energy

(because you have experienced it before) and not acting upon

it. It is like in meditation when a thought comes to you but

you do not dwell on it. It passes through you and upon

coming out of meditation you do not even remember what those

thoughts were. This is part of the process of awakening. It

is awareness of our eternal selves no matter the form.

Spiritual growth is the ability to transcend dualism. It is

not the ability to push it away.



The time fast approaches to redefine your ego-self. This

will be a difficult shift for the forces of everyday living

in materialism will restrict the casting off of unnecessary

Service-to-Self ego patterns that subsume so many. This

pattern has rooted itself into most aspects of modern human

relations as is being increased greatly due to the advent of

the ‘I Want/Need That’ generation governing global

economies.



Realization of this redefining of the ego is a central theme

in gaining insight into ways of achieving mastery of certain

divine practices and, perhaps more importantly, dissolving

fear based paradigms.



Imagine societies living in a state of Service-to-Others as

all people have redefined the long held perspective that

Service-to-Self is not the answer. This grand vision of

people living and working for others, for the common good of

societies in whole, cannot manifest when a small percentage

of people still live and work as Service-to-Self. The

destructive patterns inherent in Service-to-Self ideologies,

patterns of manipulation and falsehoods, would easily trump

those who are living in Service-to-Others. There would be

only one true way of diverting Service-to-Self, and that is:

transparency. True transparency of all records and agendas

contained within societies would be mandatory for all

societal endeavors. And all endeavors are for the purpose of

expanding life with an enlightened mindset that we are all

of one. The future fallacies that evolve from hidden motives

and manipulative agendas will no more dominate, for they are

exposed from the first manifestation of thought in those not

enlightened enough to grasp and contain the awesome

responsibility that would spring forth from this vision.

Everyone, every idea, is put forward not for one’s own self

gain, but the gain for the entirety of humankind. Service-

to-Self would dissolve as soon everyone would have what they

desire in the Service-to-Others ideology.




That single card of ascension, transparency, will be the

cornerstone of the new world. Just that one idea would

change the world, change human life; it would catapult us

into the second Garden of Eden. That transparency will occur

when the human species comes to know, through an expanded

awareness of life, that we are all One and the same without

separation from ourselves, or the universe we are a part of.

This may sound like some grand notion beyond the Egocentric

infested mind of the human collective. But I tell you this:

this awareness of transparency is now in the process of

being realized as a Collective Conscious. At its base simple

beginnings we can see it in our global communications

systems. We have the ability to access massive amounts of

individual thoughts and feelings contained within an

ideological bubble of people as easily as accessing the web.

It is getting more and more difficult for persons of the old

manifesto to keep their secrets, keep their populace from

knowing what is going on in the world by censoring media.

For in the very censoring of that global media to certain

peoples is an act of deceit which the victims will not stand

for.



In order to reach this early state of transparency,

individuals must be open to the idea and acknowledge the

base truth of where this ideal must sprout from, and gain

its momentum from. This first stage, first step, is the most

difficult and trying stage of Global Consciousness due to

the strength of the individual ego that we as humans

indoctrinate our youth into. And later in life the conscious

effort of absolving egocentric acts becomes much more

difficult to practice. The surrendering of egocentric

behavioral patterns during the daily routines of work and

relationships and the consequences assured to ensue, runs

counterproductive and counterintuitive to the reality of the

business world.



How can we come to practice this weaning away from the

Service-to-Self fear based paradigm that our global cultures

resonate with, without the consequences of inevitable job

instability and loss of income that the majority of us would

experience if we decided to release our oh-so-important ego

from our daily activities? Well, a different environment is

needed, a different place that we could practice and

actually experience the process without jeopardizing our

livelihoods. Where…? What are you talking about? I am

telling you that that ideal environment resides close to

your spirit… in lucid dreams.



Experiencing this awakening awareness, you will begin to

realize, is a gradual process. The concepts are too evolved

for the human condition to make in one leap. It is

structured to be taken in steps. And as each successful step

is reached and consciously manifested into your daily life,

the next step is realized as possible and attainable… and

taken. And as each step attained is further built upon, new

doorways of enlightenment will open before you. And soon it

is discovered that the steps and doorways are never-ending.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
Who said we have to devolve into a collective consciousness ?

All the "we are One" people are saying is : have more respect to others since they are also you.

You don't have to deny your ego. Seriously WTF ?
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?


Exactly - that is exactly why the 'everything is one' people are completely wrong about everything!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828984

good question, but the idea is that we learn to control our ego as we become more in touch with each other. our ego/imagination is very powerful tool.

Like I want to absorb all the disgusting thoughts of pedophiles. Collective consciousness - no thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828984

pedophiles dont become pedophiles over night. they develop their taste over a long time of access to pornography. some stay with pornography - and the energy they create towards the taste is sent to the ones who will take action. what i mean is, everyone (including my self) who is in to pornography is at fault here, because they are making it worse for everyone.

I think we will retain our individuality, but gain access to the silent areas of our brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499484

keep our ego but tap into the collective conciouse? yeh i think your right. me and a friend have experienced this. when people tell me the story, i immediately experience it as if it were a memory.


as for anyone who is skeptical, what ever. ive experienced it therefor i understand.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
I think my ego protects me from disgusting people. When I think of collective consciousness, I think of primordial goo- and I believe we have advanced farther than that.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
I think my ego protects me from disgusting people. When I think of collective consciousness, I think of primordial goo- and I believe we have advanced farther than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828984


Most world's greatest artists can tap into the collective consciousness. Do they feel "devolved" to you ?

You are afraid to become like an ant or a bee, but who said it has to be that way ?
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828984



There's no collective consciousness. There's a collective unconscious though, and most of you are ruled by that.


While you have individual consciousness, none of you actually use it for much.


Your ego is mainly a by product of the collective unconscious anyway interacting with the others of the same kind.

Your privacy of thought, based on what I've read here alone, that is simply thoughts your subconscious presents to your consciousness, further controlling your ego, i.e the thing you, the consciousness assumes to be the real you.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
Stuff
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Type less.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
ego is a tool ye have. it is not ye. ye are more than yer ego would have ye believe. sometimes ye need a hammer, sometimes a screwdriver. sometimes ye don't need either. sometimes the tool gets in the way. and ye are neither the hammer nor the screwdriver.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
Well whether you like it or not, we are one. But who said we would be going towards collective consciousness/group mind again?
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Yes you are, not a good thing by the way.


The next step is activating the higher centres of our minds, which may include the ability to communicate telepathically, but more importantly the connection back into the aether/akashic/grid/natures internet etc..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499484



Read less shit.


I think we will retain our individuality, but gain access to the silent areas of our brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499484



When you are dead, you don't have a brain, it is a physical organ.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
pedophiles dont become pedophiles over night. they develop their taste over a long time of access to pornography. some stay with pornography - and the energy they create towards the taste is sent to the ones who will take action. what i mean is, everyone (including my self) who is in to pornography is at fault here, because they are making it worse for everyone.



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Who told you this nonsense.


You'd do well not to believe it.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
When you are dead, you don't have a brain, it is a physical organ.
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You know, when the FM receptor is broken, the radio waves still exist. Just saying.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
You know, when the FM receptor is broken, the radio waves still exist. Just saying.
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Better not assume that EVERYTHING operates like EARTH technology.

It will limit your understanding of things.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
You know, when the FM receptor is broken, the radio waves still exist. Just saying.



Better not assume that EVERYTHING operates like EARTH technology.

It will limit your understanding of things.
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It's more the other way around, Earth technologies operate according to Nature's way

;)
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
You know, when the FM receptor is broken, the radio waves still exist. Just saying.



Better not assume that EVERYTHING operates like EARTH technology.

It will limit your understanding of things.
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seriously... you just gave yourself away

shill
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
Turn on, tune in, drop out
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
You don't know what nature's way is.


Unless you assume it to be the constant wars on this planet.

If so, it would probably explain why you think like you do.


Continiously going around in cycles wanting to be seen as being right, even when you are wrong, and nothing every changes..

Abit like this conversation right?

Nature way alright.


But who's nature?




I would wink at you, but certain reincarnation isn't something I find funny or amusing.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828984

Maybe we devolved into ego.
You only think you have privacy of thought.
How about that?
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
You know, when the FM receptor is broken, the radio waves still exist. Just saying.



Better not assume that EVERYTHING operates like EARTH technology.

It will limit your understanding of things.


seriously... you just gave yourself away

shill
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*Gasps*

I don't think like you.

Hence I'm not part of your collective unconscious.


*Shocker*
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
You don't know what nature's way is.
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Neither do you.

I guess we are stuck now. Can't debate any further peace
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828984

Do you realise that this statement comes directly from your ego.

I I I ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE.

You don't have an ego, an ego has you.
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Neither do you.
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Heh!

I guess you are stuck now. Can't debate any further peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 934758



Fixed that for you.


Don't assume other people are at your level either.


They will limit your understanding.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
I I I ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE.

You don't have an ego, an ego has you.
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That's the point.

By having an ego in the first place he develops an individual identity. though it will be flawed, many lifetimes will lead it to perfection.

He himself at least is on the way.

Just why do you think you are on this Earth in the first place?

You can't be following people around for all eternity you know.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
Don't assume other people are at your level either.


They will limit your understanding.
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whatever

I tapped into the collective consciousness. But I can't prove it to you. So I'm ok if you call me a liar. I know it's like faith, so I will not try to convince you.

peace
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
I I I ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE.

You don't have an ego, an ego has you.



That's the point.

By having an ego in the first place he develops an individual identity. though it will be flawed, many lifetimes will lead it to perfection.

He himself at least is on the way.

Just why do you think you are on this Earth in the first place?

You can't be following people around for all eternity you know.
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Everyone is one there way somewhere.

To develop as an individual, isolation is the only way.

Ego will leave you when you leave earth.

It is a product of your environment and experiences.
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Re: We EVOLVED to have an ego- why would we devolve into a collective consciousness?
There's the question. I like my ego. I'm not so willing to release it to the rest of you. I am also not so willing to absorb all of your thoughts. I don't want them! In my universe, I have been gifted with privacy of thought.

How about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828984



AMEN, you speak my language!

Let go of my Ego!

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