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FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE HAARP IS REAL

 
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It isn't.

I can prove that HAARP is not responsible for any of the earthquakes with one point.

HAARP stations are on the ground and only emit frequencies OUTWARD in to our atmosphere.

For HAARP to work it would have to shoot down in to the earth.


Also, the amount of electrical current necessary to penetrate deep enough into the earth is far beyond what HAARP emits.

Okay so lets assume that you COULD get the energy and the correct positioning to emit your beam.

Then you would need to be able to shoot it with pinpoint accuracy targeting a LARGE clump of material in the earth that resonates the same to make some sort of shift.

The problem with this is that the material earth is made out of is vastly arrayed in composition and therefor does not resonate similarly.

Say a rock resonates @ 5Hz while sand particles resonate @ 10Hz

You cannot get both to resonate at the same frequency disallowing major reactions from the resonating force.

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ever heard of resonance and harmonics?
piezo electricity?
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lol macgun
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How would you know what they can REALLY do?

They tell us jack shit.
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Uh...you forgot about all those Satellites they've got floating around in the sky...the ones they've publicized, and all the ones the military has up there that are "classified", just like HAARP.
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Don't forget the string of 'sister stations' they have set up across the globe. The one in Greece was sending wave harmonics through the atmosphere that were visible on film.
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Well... HARRP AINT FAKE!

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and the deep boreholes underneat the facilities for ulf and elf freqs
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HAARP is part of a sort of 'early warning' system
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I think Haarp could def do some brain washing/mind control though



[link to www.haarp.net]

by Nicholas Jones, nicholasjones99@yahoo.com

Earth is wrapped in a donut shaped magnetic field. Circular lines of flux continuously descend into the North Pole and emerge from the South Pole. The ionosphere, an electromagnetic-wave conductor, 100 kms above the earth, consists of a layer of electrically charged particles acting as a shield from solar winds. Natural waves are related to the electrical activity in the atmosphere and are thought to be caused by multiple lightning storms. Collectively, these waves are called ‘The Schumann Resonance´, the current strongest at 7.8 Hz. These are quasi-standing extremely low frequency (ELF) waves that naturally exist in the earth´s ‘electromagnetic´ cavity, the space between the ground and the ionosphere. These ‘earth brainwaves´ are identical to the spectrum of our brainwaves.

(1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000, 1 Mhz =1 million. A 1 Hertz wave is 186,000 miles long, 10 Hz is 18,600 miles. Radio-waves move at the speed of light.)

The Creator designed living beings to resonate to this natural frequency pulsation in order to evolve harmoniously. The ionosphere is being manipulated by US govt. scientists using an Alaskan transmitter called HAARP, (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) which sends focused radiated power to heat up sections of the ionosphere, which bounces power down again. ELF waves from HAARP when targeted on areas can weather-engineer and create mood changes affecting millions. The intended wattage is 1,700 billion watts of power. A former govt. insider deduced they want to flip the world upside down. 64 elements in the ground modulate, with variation, the geomagnetic waves naturally coming from the ground.

The ‘earth´s natural brain rhythm´ above is balanced with these. These are the same minerals as the red blood corpuscles. There is a relation between the blood and geomagnetic waves. An imbalance between Schumann and geomagnetic waves disrupts biorhythms. These natural geomagnetic waves are being replaced by artificially created very low frequency (VLF) ground waves coming from GWEN Towers.
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I don’t know if it is chicken, egg, or completely unrelated, but the last 24 hours of HAARP on-line data is pretty wild looking..


[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]

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It isn't.

I can prove that HAARP is not responsible for any of the earthquakes with one point.

HAARP stations are on the ground and only emit frequencies OUTWARD in to our atmosphere.

For HAARP to work it would have to shoot down in to the earth.

...

You cannot get both to resonate at the same frequency disallowing major reactions from the resonating force.

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Look, go to the Patent and Trademark Office, read the patent claims. Watch the interview with the inventors son.

The energy reflects off the upper atmosphere and can penetrate the earth.

Again, just read what is so clearly in the public domain.
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"For HAARP to work it would have to shoot down in to the earth."

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I actually talked to some Electronic Technicians about that. They told me ELF isn't reflected by the ionosphere.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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I actually talked to some Electronic Technicians about that. They told me ELF isn't reflected by the ionosphere.
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[link to skeptoid.com]
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I actually talked to some Electronic Technicians about that. They told me ELF isn't reflected by the ionosphere.
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Yeah, even they admit that they their transmissions can be used to communicate with submarines. Therefore, what they are doing in the atmosphere affects earth. Period.

From their website:

A potential DOD application of the research is to provide communications to submerged submarines. These and many other research applications are expected to greatly enhance present DOD technology.
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[link to skeptoid.com]
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Uh...you forgot about all those Satellites they've got floating around in the sky...the ones they've publicized, and all the ones the military has up there that are "classified", just like HAARP.
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HAARP is in no way shape or form classified.

[link to skeptoid.com]

read.

In fact they have an open house where you can tour the whole facilities.
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Uh...you forgot about all those Satellites they've got floating around in the sky...the ones they've publicized, and all the ones the military has up there that are "classified", just like HAARP.


HAARP is in no way shape or form classified.

[link to skeptoid.com]

read.

In fact they have an open house where you can tour the whole facilities.
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lol

righhhhht.
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under its patent, doesnt it have weather modification and the ability to create earthquakes?

Isn't it controlled by some military institution?
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Anyone else having problems with their car key FOBS not working?
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I actually talked to some Electronic Technicians about that. They told me ELF isn't reflected by the ionosphere.
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HAARP program manager says different.

“We have radio-wave sensors which send waves up to the ionosphere and listen for a reflection or an echo off something up there,” Pedersen remarked. “And we have passive sensors that will listen to waves produced in the ionosphere, and also optical sensors.”

Pedersen explained that when energy is directed at the ionosphere, some of it eventually comes back in the form of radio waves and some in the form of optical emissions.


Link: [link to science.dodlive.mil]
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I actually talked to some Electronic Technicians about that. They told me ELF isn't reflected by the ionosphere.
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Thats why a plasma lens is created with one frequency, to bounce and focus a seperate frequency(ies)

[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
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under its patent, doesnt it have weather modification and the ability to create earthquakes?

Isn't it controlled by some military institution?
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It is FUNDED by DARPA not controlled. The only reason DARPA has interest in it is because they can emit down to a 1hz frequency which can be received almost anywhere in the world, even by submarines.

Aside from that the military has nothing to do with it. DARPA is only research FOR the military so this is two stepping stones away from military.
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[link to patft.uspto.gov]

patent

[link to www.staticbrain.com]
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Well since all material is made of electric charged particles, ah thats what makes chemistry work.
And since proper tuned electromagnetic fields can disrupt these bonds, why not haarp?

Haarp high altitude heater! Just changing pressure areas would heighten or lessen pressure on the earth, and help increase or relieve stress. And heating certain areas will change atmospheric pressure. Thus doing as stated above, and altering weather patterns as well.

There maybe other things way more potent than haarp that can be used as well. Sonic ground wave generators etc. Tesla explained how to do it.

The cern could be helping as well, that thing generates some good EM when its cooking I bet. And who knows what all is floating in space helping with the stratospheric heating, mirrors on satellites could do that.
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under its patent, doesnt it have weather modification and the ability to create earthquakes?

Isn't it controlled by some military institution?
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HAARP is phased array in the mega to most likely the Giga watt area. Thats a bunch of heat in a square foot or so, fanned about the upper atmosphere.
Phased array, pin point heating. Read the post about how heating and changine atmospheric pressure can cause earth quakes.
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Well since all material is made of electric charged particles, ah thats what makes chemistry work.
And since proper tuned electromagnetic fields can disrupt these bonds, why not haarp?

Haarp high altitude heater! Just changing pressure areas would heighten or lessen pressure on the earth, and help increase or relieve stress. And heating certain areas will change atmospheric pressure. Thus doing as stated above, and altering weather patterns as well.

There maybe other things way more potent than haarp that can be used as well. Sonic ground wave generators etc. Tesla explained how to do it.

The cern could be helping as well, that thing generates some good EM when its cooking I bet. And who knows what all is floating in space helping with the stratospheric heating, mirrors on satellites could do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 832392


[link to skeptoid.com]

read. haarp has no ability to control temperature and only affects the ionosphere which is way up high
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I'm very inclined to believe the op's assessment of HAARP. I read the info at the website and it made sense, and the op's rebuttal's have made sense. On top of that, HAARP believers are usually chemtrail nuts, 9-11 Truthers, LaRouchites, Jonesers, wiccans, D&D wack jobs, astrologists, hypnotists, and John Stewart. I don't like to be on the same side of any issue as any of those people if I can help it, and thanks to the op's excellent source and posts, I can help it in this case.

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